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Tayne Talks: A Reality TV Podcast

Reality Show Ramble - Love Island USA, Top Chef, Below Deck Med, Southern Hospitality and The Valley

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[SPEAKER_00]: episode on Tain Talks, I am your host, Tain. [SPEAKER_00]: Here to talk about this week's reality show Rambal where I talk about all the shows I'm watching, scripted, reality, books, and reading, and just kind of like, you know, have a little conversation with you guys, except I'm even more talking.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, congratulations to the next year. [SPEAKER_00]: They finally got their championship. [SPEAKER_00]: It's been so exciting watching everything and I'm happy for everyone that is [SPEAKER_00]: next in five in indeed. [SPEAKER_00]: So also happy World Cup season to everyone who celebrates seems like it's been hosted by, you know, you know, a lot of people don't seem to know that that's happening, but it's exciting and it's just to see who's going to make it this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Jared didn't make the playoffs were a big sucker country, but again, we were interested to see who takes it this year because there are a bunch of contenders over there. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, one of my watching this week. [SPEAKER_00]: I can remember if I told you guys last week, but I did finally start watching the pit.

[SPEAKER_00]: I usually wait for the end of the season, and then I stop binging it. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's taken a little longer this year because there's so much to catch up on, [SPEAKER_00]: work is taking a lot of my life and I travel for work. [SPEAKER_00]: So I am making my way down and still just get as I remember it's to be.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, do you guys watch it? [SPEAKER_00]: Let me know what you think about it. [SPEAKER_00]: I told you last time that I was reading Stranger's by Bill Burton. [SPEAKER_00]: I am done with it. [SPEAKER_00]: It was very compelling. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a true life story of a woman whose husband was cheating on her and she found [SPEAKER_00]: And she gets a text from the husband of the woman her husband was cheating with, saying that, I don't know if you know, but our sponsors are cheating with each other.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just a breakdown of everything. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's fascinating because we never find out why he was cheating, why he decides to leave the family. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's just her telling her story. [SPEAKER_00]: And even fascinating is all the ties that she had. [SPEAKER_00]: Family-wise, like she comes from her big name.

[SPEAKER_00]: families. [SPEAKER_00]: So if you know Truman Capodia Grandma was one of the swans, which if you watch the show on FX with her and Murphy, Naomi Watts, I believe, played her grandma. [SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of story in there and it was an easy read, I think I'll say, for that kid Casey had an episode breaking this down, which was quite fascinating and she got [SPEAKER_00]: the perspective of a friend also who is also also has a trust fund and you know she asked the question does having many replace the pain which is funny because I asked my friend that question is just like yes absolutely I don't think I agree like there's still pain that trickles down the kids are involved but in a way on things like I do recommend the book especially because it's a quick and easy read you might get frustrated with some of the choices but you know

[SPEAKER_00]: We live and we learn. [SPEAKER_00]: So right now, I am currently reading an advanced copy of in Bulletin Booth's book. [SPEAKER_00]: Every story is a love story. [SPEAKER_00]: I am excited and nervous about this one because the first book of in Bulletin that I read was Beholder Dreamers a couple of years ago.

[SPEAKER_00]: You guys, I loved this book so much. [SPEAKER_00]: And there is changing with my five stars, but she got a five stars instantly. [SPEAKER_00]: But then her sophomore book, How Beautiful We Were, it was still well written, [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, love it as much as I love behold the dreamers or maybe I just, you know, I love behold the dreamers so much that nothing could ever top it and that's what it was I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm curious to see whether this one lies, um, if you don't know this about me, if I've never mentioned, I'm going to books blind. [SPEAKER_00]: I do not know what the books are about. [SPEAKER_00]: I just going waiting to be surprised and watch it unfold. [SPEAKER_00]: And I have no idea what this book is about but so far with what I have read.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's about a woman who was, you know, in an accident, she was hit by a car and an accident, loses her life and the person who hit her has just sent a letter to the husband of the woman who died, apologizing and asking for a chance to speak to them. [SPEAKER_00]: And currently, I literally just started, he's mulling over whether to open the letter or not.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, [SPEAKER_00]: So, far so good. [SPEAKER_00]: So, that's what I'm reading. [SPEAKER_00]: You guys, if you ever want to share what you're reading, if you want recommendations, if you want to recommend books for me, please feel free. [SPEAKER_00]: Anywhere you want to, any of the socials, Taint Talks.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you send me an email, Taint Talks at gmail.com, always happy to talk TV, movies, or books. [SPEAKER_00]: Patrons, just a little announcement for you guys. [SPEAKER_00]: I am going to put up a step by step if you would like to listen to bonus episodes through your podcast apps, shout out to Lisa for bringing this to my attention.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think I had an endotransition, I had missed something and if you usually listen to your podcast app and it's not working, please let me know but I will put up a post in the Patreon. [SPEAKER_00]: So, if you would like to do that, instead of going back and forth, listening on the Patreon app, you can just listen to whatever app you listen to your podcasts on, I will put up a post with a step-by-step once again, shout out to Lisa for letting me know and for letting me know the steps as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what am I talking about this week? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about Love Island, of course I have to. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about Top Chef, talking about [SPEAKER_00]: I almost feel like I have to talk about Love Island. [SPEAKER_00]: I really wish that I could cover Love Island, but guys, it is a lot.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is almost every day, except Wednesdays. [SPEAKER_00]: On Saturdays, it's after Sunday which I never used to watch, but I watched it for the first time because Sierra was on there and Sierra and Tefia, the new host. [SPEAKER_00]: of afterson the whole format is great so now that's yet another day that I have to add to my life so I don't know any any time that I can talk about it I will but I'm so sorry I'm covering it because it is just a lot I'm also watching the violin UK and it's just so much to cover but I will feature a lot in reality show rambul [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to hear my thoughts, I was eight guests on I can not with Kendrick Tucker go check that out and we talked all things of Island UK and USA so check that out and also Raven on bitches better has daily coverage of

[SPEAKER_00]: the first episode and [SPEAKER_00]: You know, just talking about it, who knew that Sean was down bad for an IA. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I got aside, I am a little because you're all an IA and IA, but you never pulled her aside and instead, you decided to play a game and went out there, faking with Kenzie.

[SPEAKER_00]: Which I was mad about. [SPEAKER_00]: They did not ask any question about Kenzie like, was that a fever dream like what was going on there? [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of here to shoot your shot, which is one of the critiques that I have for the season so far. [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone wants to have a day one, locked in, we won, we've been together.

[SPEAKER_00]: and everything is just solid and it's just, it's not cool and it's not sustainable also. [SPEAKER_00]: So, well, like I was saying, [SPEAKER_00]: The islanders that are dumped, they get to see their phones, they get to talk to family, they get to let them know what's going on, like Bayes, French, somewhere, everyone seems to think they're your stud, and you know, everyone talked about the conversation with Melanie, or with Sean finding out what the mayor was saying, talking to his sister.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of cool because they come in with perspective and they get to be honest, it's not like they don't know what's going on, and we get some information from being inside the house. [SPEAKER_00]: I am sad Bay of Left, but guys, someone had a go, and there is just going to be more.

[SPEAKER_00]: We are not going to be with this people, you know, forever, and I know we like to keep DOGs, but, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: It's not realistic. [SPEAKER_00]: It is a little unfair that Corbyn had the upper hand. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it gets annoying when the men seem to have more opportunities to stay in some way.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just say, people couple up, I just, I know it's messy. [SPEAKER_00]: I understand it brings to drama, but what if we just do it that way and then we see, you know, what happens? [SPEAKER_00]: Because [SPEAKER_00]: Bayer did not stand a chance once they did this Bayer did not stand a chance and also those of us who voted, we did not know how they were going to play it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I give them kudos for the creative ways in which they don't people, but like Bayer said enough to son, as long as it wasn't what I have fellow island is voting her out, she's cool with the way that it turned out. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, a little bit about some of the islanders. [SPEAKER_00]: The sole instanceaire, Melanie's situation, my dream best case scenario right now is that male truly stands on business and is done with instanceaire and seriously focuses on curbing and then a bombshell comes in for soul so that way instanceaire is left alone and then he has to face himself and just run.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fix whatever is wrong with him and these lies that he seems to be lying. [SPEAKER_00]: I think what makes it so weird is, instance there does not know that he's lying. [SPEAKER_00]: He truly believes that he's being honest and perception is reality. [SPEAKER_00]: He truly, truly believes he has no idea.

[SPEAKER_00]: He feels like when he's in the confessional and he's saying things that he's saying the truth. [SPEAKER_00]: He does not realize that he's lying and that's the scary part. [SPEAKER_00]: How do you fix something that you don't know that you are doing? [SPEAKER_00]: But we're watching it.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's telling her that no, like, soul is the one who shall for a kiss. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't want to be with her. [SPEAKER_00]: Then you're telling Melanie, like, I have no interest in getting to know her. [SPEAKER_00]: But then you're saying, like, oh, she's such a breath of fresh air and soul is just everything.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you pie her and you know with everyone we decide to pie her in that game. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what's going to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like I said, that is my dream situation because I don't know what's wrong with that man and his lies. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm realistic.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I know that male is not going to leave him. [SPEAKER_00]: They're down for that toxic love, so that is what is going to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just insane also that male and soul have not had a conversation to compare notes. [SPEAKER_00]: I just... [SPEAKER_00]: Like, usually it's like, let's chat when he's, say, within three of them have a conversation and then becomes a thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it's almost like Mel doesn't want to pull Saul because maybe she doesn't want to hear the truth because she knows. [SPEAKER_00]: Like her intuition is screaming out loud to her and everything. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's ignoring it because she, like Sierra said, on after some of the girls are so scared to lose the men that they're not putting themselves first and doing what they need to do to have the best case scenario in the end.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, there's a lot of talk, you know, online and you just got to take a degree in assault, but people are using soul of stepping on toes and going after someone who had a man, what do you think a bombshell does? [SPEAKER_00]: That's what a bombshell does, they come in and they talk to people.

[SPEAKER_00]: because they came in late and people naturally are coupled up because it's the format of the game and she was giving back to someone who was entertaining her. [SPEAKER_00]: So what are we talking about? [SPEAKER_00]: Like especially this season where everyone claims to be open but they are locked off and nothing is happening.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we need to shake things up. [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone, like I said, it's trying to be a day one winner and we don't have time for that. [SPEAKER_00]: I [SPEAKER_00]: Just this pie challenge. [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I know we cannot see everything that happens on there. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there is editing for a reason.

[SPEAKER_00]: But you can just see that the light is out of souls eyes. [SPEAKER_00]: Like in the very beginning, she didn't care. [SPEAKER_00]: She was bombshelling hard. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I even said, like, you know, I give perhaps the soul. [SPEAKER_00]: Like she didn't even fuck. [SPEAKER_00]: Like she's just doing [SPEAKER_00]: what she needs to do, but I don't know what it is that we're not seeing, but definitely the light is dim that of her.

[SPEAKER_00]: People are saying like, she was weak and is not built for this, but she's a human being and I just feel like we haven't seen her have conversations with anyone with any of the other girls and I do feel like like, they hadn't given us that confessional web as says like, [SPEAKER_00]: You know, some of those pies should have gone to mail and it's very obvious that she's just a scapegoat and you just keep pying her like, I mean, she was fine up until like the last one where it's like, okay, guys, you don't know anything about me, but you're saying that I'm going to ghost them like there was literally someone else who in the challenge said like, oh, I ghosted a guy, which was mail.

[SPEAKER_00]: So why didn't she just give it to her and then say, oh, well, you ghosted a guy before, so we're just going to be saying that. [SPEAKER_00]: But she had a good point so that is saying that [SPEAKER_00]: If you guys don't get to know me, you guys don't talk to me, you don't know anything about me, how are you picking me for all of this when you don't know anything about me?

[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't make sense. [SPEAKER_00]: And then even worse on the flip side, the only person who knows anything about me is in sincere. [SPEAKER_00]: And then you're not fighting for me. [SPEAKER_00]: You're still saying, oh yeah, let's go ahead with her. [SPEAKER_00]: That's insane. [SPEAKER_00]: like that man made two breakfast.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we forget that Mel and he still doesn't know that he made two breakfast and he thought that was fine. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he was even Caleb who I like by the way. [SPEAKER_00]: He's 21 years old but he has a good head of these shoulders. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's like, um, yeah, that's not that's doing too much.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is it Bryce? [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it was Bryce, but I still like Caleb sent him in still stands. [SPEAKER_00]: We saw no comfort again. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, she cried. [SPEAKER_00]: She wasn't feeling well. [SPEAKER_00]: And [SPEAKER_00]: I don't see or we didn't see any of the girls going to check on her, Mel wanted to to be like, okay, it's not fair and I want someone to be picked on, but in sincere it's like, oh, what?

[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to, you don't have to. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, why are we just doing everything the guys tell us to do? [SPEAKER_00]: Do what you need to do and what you want to do. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe Kenzie's offer, like if you have a friend, I don't want you to feel alone.

[SPEAKER_00]: It feels very producer-driven, kind of like Bryce Chinapomukeda. [SPEAKER_00]: Because even after that happened, you said you wanted to be her friend. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, did you go talk to her? [SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know, Trinity, Trinity and Bryce. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what to do with this too.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what are they like each other. [SPEAKER_00]: If I had to pick, I think that they do. [SPEAKER_00]: I think they don't know what to do with the fact that they came in here and fell for people that were completely opposite of what [SPEAKER_00]: they normally would, but they're intrigued by each other, but they're the people who are doing love island right.

[SPEAKER_00]: They have gone out to explore. [SPEAKER_00]: They have come back together. [SPEAKER_00]: They're having the conversations. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not getting mad. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just in the way that you do it. [SPEAKER_00]: I understand her being mad, appealing, pulling. [SPEAKER_00]: Keta, why are you pulling my best friend and why are you pulling your best friend's girl?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so odd. [SPEAKER_00]: Sherry, do you turn you down? [SPEAKER_00]: So there's not even a chance. [SPEAKER_00]: So what is the point of doing that? [SPEAKER_00]: So if you need to be mad about that, I get it. [SPEAKER_00]: But they're doing it right. [SPEAKER_00]: I just think like they're just two opposite people that didn't expect to fall for each other.

[SPEAKER_00]: That they don't know what to do with it and they don't trust it. [SPEAKER_00]: So they keep feeling like, okay, someone else is going to come. [SPEAKER_00]: that is more suitable. [SPEAKER_00]: But in the meantime, what do I do with this? [SPEAKER_00]: My feelings are growing. [SPEAKER_00]: I love that Trinity mentioned race.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I don't want you to feel like you're with me. [SPEAKER_00]: And then you're kind, you're type. [SPEAKER_00]: Not you're kind. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God, for instance. [SPEAKER_00]: your type comes in and a brunette comes in and, you know, it feels like you're just waiting for that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think what she said is your brunette comes in and you're waiting for that person and then you go for that person. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean what she means is a white person. [SPEAKER_00]: But I can't believe that, you know, they kept that conversation, but good on them for keeping that conversation because it is so real.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's two of them just firmly. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he feels the same way that she wants to be with a black man. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's what it is. [SPEAKER_00]: That both of them just didn't expect [SPEAKER_00]: or type in their mind, and now they don't know what to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: But who knows, in my workout, I will say everyone's saying, oh, they want to be the next nickel handkerchief. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not getting that. [SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, I'm very like pessimistic, usually, and I don't trust, you know, reality TV, but I'm not getting that they're purposely trying to be the next nickel handkerchief.

[SPEAKER_00]: That is not [SPEAKER_00]: will see what happens with them. [SPEAKER_00]: I just love me some keta. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, face card never decline. [SPEAKER_00]: I just like the way she sent it for herself. [SPEAKER_00]: She seems to like Zack and Zack seems like a dick, but couldn't be the brit in him.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen many of Brit reality star and they're like, you just don't get my humour. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what's going on. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I do think that Bryce pulling her for a chat might make him realize that he likes Katerin more than he wants to admit, but it all depends.

[SPEAKER_00]: All we need right now, we need bump shells that are these people's types so that heads can start turning. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, before we even get to cast out, we just need all this because this lockdown that we're in is not going to make for riveting TV and they need to do something to shape things up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, have a team meeting and talk to these people and let them know that you guys, you're not making good TV. [SPEAKER_00]: America doesn't like this and you just need to start moving things around while still exploring a connection. [SPEAKER_00]: And someone needs to beat the rules, there's money at the end.

[SPEAKER_00]: So technically this show is a game show. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, a competitive show. [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, follow the rules, guys. [SPEAKER_00]: Read the rules to them and let them know what they need to do. [SPEAKER_00]: Case in an eye are really cute. [SPEAKER_00]: People are rooting for them.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm rooting for them. [SPEAKER_00]: Case is so fine. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's underrated. [SPEAKER_00]: And I am so fine. [SPEAKER_00]: Body tea, like everything is great. [SPEAKER_00]: But I still kind of feel like they're stuck together. [SPEAKER_00]: I do like them together. [SPEAKER_00]: I do wish he did explore soul.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do think he wanted to explore soul. [SPEAKER_00]: But I do, this may sound harsh. [SPEAKER_00]: Into not exploring you can't talk about being open and it's like oh, I feel this way I don't feel reassured. [SPEAKER_00]: We were at the time on week 1. [SPEAKER_00]: Are we on one or two?

[SPEAKER_00]: But I think we won and You know the weak spots for all the guys is that they are obsessed with looking like good guys No one wants to be the guy that turns no one wants to explore and I think that's what made him stick Do I think he likes an I I yes? [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he does [SPEAKER_00]: You have to go around and then see, and then maybe realize, okay, what I have with this person is stronger, but I did explore with this person.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're not wondering, like, what if, oh, do I have this or not? [SPEAKER_00]: That is the right way to go. [SPEAKER_00]: You kind of just have to go through your emotions, let it out, fill it out, and but still, you know, also get it in check, but you guys have got to explore. [SPEAKER_00]: I almost feel like they should have a plane flying over the villa with the signs saying, [SPEAKER_00]: Kenzie's in her own world where facts don't matter.

[SPEAKER_00]: Kenzie's like, she has a roster. [SPEAKER_00]: She's not feeling the way that she felt anymore because she was just like, what? [SPEAKER_00]: Or are people not falling for me? [SPEAKER_00]: What is happening? [SPEAKER_00]: And she's mad that Corbyn asked for a kiss, but she's kissing Caleb.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so confused as to what's happening. [SPEAKER_00]: But, [SPEAKER_00]: Bring on the mess. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm enjoying USA. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm enjoying the show so much. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm enjoying UK, but if I had to pick, I am enjoying the USA more. [SPEAKER_00]: Let me know all your love island thoughts are you watching?

[SPEAKER_00]: What are you thinking? [SPEAKER_00]: Which couples are you rooting for? [SPEAKER_00]: I would love to hear it all. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take a quick break and I'll be back with top chef. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm back. [SPEAKER_00]: We have a winner. [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, if you don't want to hear the winner, skip skip skip.

[SPEAKER_00]: The winner is Roda, and I feel so good because I feel like I've been making predictions that have not been coming true, but if you listen to the last time I talked about top chef on reality show Rambo, I was like, I can not shake the feeling that Roda is going to have a Kristen moment and she's gonna be come back from last chance kitchen and she's going to take it all and I feel so vindicated and happy that that is exactly what happened even though I thought that it's not what was going to, [SPEAKER_00]: happen.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, we have a winner. [SPEAKER_00]: It is Roda and it's exciting. [SPEAKER_00]: It's exciting. [SPEAKER_00]: We have a woman winner. [SPEAKER_00]: It's been a minute since we had one. [SPEAKER_00]: So, yay, her. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going back to the final episode. [SPEAKER_00]: I was just thinking about the eliminated chefs who have to come back and be sous chefs for the finalism.

[SPEAKER_00]: That has to be tough, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Like you were so close and you just didn't make it. [SPEAKER_00]: And you have to come back and help and also is there compensation for that for doing all of that, you know, and I wasn't sure, you know, when Seeger came back or see here, Seeger wrote a just friends on my sensing something like they have that report as friends, but I think there was one quick scene if you didn't blink if you miss or you miss it, where Seeger just kind of like poked up and just kissed in the air to work her direction, but I was like, oh, but if they were.

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess producers, they're always messy. [SPEAKER_00]: They would have asked a question in the professionals, like, you know, are you guys just friends? [SPEAKER_00]: Or do you think she's cool? [SPEAKER_00]: She's someone you would date something to that effect, but we didn't get any of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, but I thought I saw something, but you could be wish for thinking. [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, do we want Roto's Sieger though after that? [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't want to define that man, but he's a big mistake. [SPEAKER_00]: We have moments and it's a heightened environment.

[SPEAKER_00]: But [SPEAKER_00]: They had the former finalists as mentors. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was pretty cool. [SPEAKER_00]: I was very scared for Roda not having a dessert that was a pretty dim bold move. [SPEAKER_00]: But she stuck to her guns and she felt pretty convicted about it and I mean worked out in the end if he did it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I might have said that was a mistake, but it did. [SPEAKER_00]: But at the time we didn't know that it was going to work out. [SPEAKER_00]: So good for her. [SPEAKER_00]: I think the challenge was stages had to make four progressive meals that was a [SPEAKER_00]: in their life. [SPEAKER_00]: So they had a family dinner for their final meal where Tom, Gail, Christine comes over and Tom is cooking for them.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it was just very sweet because they came out with dishes. [SPEAKER_00]: And as the dishes were coming out, people were recognizing it like, oh, this is something I eat very specific. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, how would Tom know how to make it? [SPEAKER_00]: And it turned out that it was their family members who made the dishes and they came out one by one and, you [SPEAKER_00]: Lawrence's wife came out, wrote a sister, was there, and Sherry's sister also came out, and they made each of the dishes.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I just got wondering, what if they could have cooked? [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, what would have been the plan if [SPEAKER_00]: One of the people, all of the people, couldn't cook, would they just have catered or what I guess they would have rerouted, but pretty cool that they all cook and the all-bread dishes that meant something to them.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I fancy myself like a decent cook when he comes to Niger and food. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I, you know, I can make the food, but I still get nervous when people eat my food. [SPEAKER_00]: So I can imagine if they, it was nerve-racking. [SPEAKER_00]: for them to eat, you know, their food on national television or, you know, maybe just a meeting and they are just so confident.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, y'all, there's no way it's going to be not great. [SPEAKER_00]: But on the flip side, what if it is not great? [SPEAKER_00]: How to gale Tom and Kristen react to that? [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, thank God it was. [SPEAKER_00]: It seemed those potatoes were bomb, but what if it isn't?

[SPEAKER_00]: What did they do? [SPEAKER_00]: Basically all I'm saying with my anxious mind, [SPEAKER_00]: All I was thinking was like, that seems like just everything just seems like very risky move to do all in all. [SPEAKER_00]: But it worked out fine and it was great. [SPEAKER_00]: Also Kristen was really great.

[SPEAKER_00]: By the time we did all the meals, we had all the meals presented, and we had the judges, and they ate all the meals. [SPEAKER_00]: The way it looked like, the critiques by the time we got to judges table felt like it was leaning towards a Sherry win, because it was very clear. [SPEAKER_00]: Like going into this, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like this was Lawrence's to lose. [SPEAKER_00]: He's had a pretty damn good season up until to us the end, but by the judges table, it was very clear that Lawrence was not winning. [SPEAKER_00]: This and when Roto was announced, I say, screaming and if you know, they do this thing where they try to throw you off sends us to who's gonna win and The way it was in the confessional is like you really just pointing out the flaws in Roto.

[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of felt like he was leaving towards her. [SPEAKER_00]: So [SPEAKER_00]: I know people are saying that maybe she didn't deserve it, but a lot of it is editing, you know, we don't know what the full thing is, how they were. [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen some of the judges' time has been on there saying like, you know, they tasted the food and it was there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they did say that Roda is the one person who consistently cooked all the proteins best. [SPEAKER_00]: But if we're going straight just by the editing, I still kind of feel like, [SPEAKER_00]: The bass are just a finale episode. [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like it was a Sherry win. [SPEAKER_00]: Based on overall cook throughout, like the wins and all of that, it felt like you would have been a Lawrence win.

[SPEAKER_00]: But honestly, I like Roda and you felt like Roda made a bold move. [SPEAKER_00]: She cooked her stuff well. [SPEAKER_00]: And to be honest, I would have been happy with any of them winning. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's how good the finalists were. [SPEAKER_00]: Like if they had announced any of them as the winner, I would have just been happy.

[SPEAKER_00]: It just also felt like, [SPEAKER_00]: What is the word? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, is it underwhelming? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I guess what I'm saying is like last season when Tristan won, it didn't feel the same. [SPEAKER_00]: When Tristan won, it felt like it was such a clear winner. [SPEAKER_00]: It felt so exciting and it was just like, oh my God, Tristan won, but you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_00]: I just felt like, what's the best way? [SPEAKER_00]: For those of you who watch Survivor, it feels like there's an asterisk besides Rotis name, even though there shouldn't be, think of like, when? [SPEAKER_00]: Let's say, Gabe Lohan or Michelle one, and it's kind of like, even as recent as Aubrey, where some people feel like, oh, she shouldn't have one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe that's the feeling like there's just like a cloud, even though they should not be. [SPEAKER_00]: Anyone who wins a show, unless it's like project runway or something where it's obvious for someone else should have won. [SPEAKER_00]: is the deserved winner of the show. [SPEAKER_00]: And the way people were speaking, you would think that Roto was like a shit cook, but she wasn't.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the thing. [SPEAKER_00]: So I just don't understand. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's the fact that she was a limited income bag, but if that's the case then maybe I haven't watched other seasons and then you should be mad at Kristen. [SPEAKER_00]: We'll never have had Kristen if that was the case.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy with it. [SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like maybe the acids of our name or maybe the way people's reaction kind of made it seem like all but I'm so happy for her. [SPEAKER_00]: She's a winner and she's a good cook and it was a good season. [SPEAKER_00]: I like the season that went by pretty fast and um looking forward to next season and I wonder where they're gonna go.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let me know who are you rooting for, [SPEAKER_00]: winner. [SPEAKER_00]: Let me know. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's talk about below deck med. [SPEAKER_00]: I am surprised that we're having another below deck med when we haven't had a regular med. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just accepting that ceiling yacht is done and does it and that's not going to come back.

[SPEAKER_00]: We just had down under [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, they started the season with Nate and Gale. [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're not together in real time anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: Because every time she posted pictures, her and her son, I don't see her with Nate. [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody let me know if you do know the answer to that.

[SPEAKER_00]: but it's pretty cool that you know they were able to have a rental close by and I wonder she'll be integrated into the storyline this season because you know they're around and how is it gonna have time like when they go out to have fun is he just instead gonna go out and go hang out with the kids but we'll see they are in Croatia this time Asia is back the chef is joy she has cooked for a lot of celebrities she is French [SPEAKER_00]: She is new to the franchise.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've never seen her before. [SPEAKER_00]: She does tell us that she is intense I believe her because that's some point I can't someone ask her you nervous and she's like no, and they're like what we are not She's like no, I've been to hell and back. [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see what she brings I wonder why she doesn't get a sous chef.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the boat is smaller or something, but We'll see how that goes like I said ages back Joe is back Nathan is back guys Joe is a dick [SPEAKER_00]: baseline, no arguments there. [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't treat women right, and he just always makes the wrong decision. [SPEAKER_00]: Also, men should call out other men.

[SPEAKER_00]: Nathan did the right thing, called him out in his bad behavior and all that. [SPEAKER_00]: But I got to tell you, I do not understand this reaction to Joe. [SPEAKER_00]: They were best buddies. [SPEAKER_00]: They were friends. [SPEAKER_00]: They were very, very cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they were close.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he made a mistake. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't [SPEAKER_00]: I can understand distancing yourself, but Joe's called him, he's not picking up. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to talk to him, did something more happen? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'm reading this, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Like again, he has a right to be mad, he has a right to feel that way, but have they even had a conversation?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think they have not had a conversation, and Joe has no idea. [SPEAKER_00]: What he has done that is so terrible, so I don't think the reaction is matching what is happening. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where Nathan comes out being like this holiday then now guys so I hope they resolve it because this doesn't make any sense now they have to work together and Is there any thinking about not making him delete it because he doesn't trust him?

[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you trust him? [SPEAKER_00]: Again, did something else happen or is it just how he treated women? [SPEAKER_00]: Does that affect you? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm confused. [SPEAKER_00]: Why did a high-agreene decams? [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's a silly question. [SPEAKER_00]: It's for the drama, but there's one who's going to suffer for it because then they're going to have to like get new people A fire someone and then be stuck during a charter, but I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: Is this the best place for a deckhand to learn all the things that they need to learn? [SPEAKER_00]: Also, it's South Carolina the new recruiting ground for reality TV like Miami is the base, but it seems like we're getting a lot of people from South Carolina. [SPEAKER_00]: We have Lucas.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we have someone else who's on a deckhand there stacked, they are like six foot whatever and it looks like they're going to have to be bending over while they go through the boats. [SPEAKER_00]: They already have their first misshop on the boat because when they're trying to dock and the boat hit the dock I gasped.

[SPEAKER_00]: I gasped because [SPEAKER_00]: There was so much noise on there and I just, I don't even need to believe in himself. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you are the boss in. [SPEAKER_00]: I just, by, at this time, you should be sure you should know what to do and hitting the dog was just kind of crazy.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I'm sounding feeling bad, captain sand is like, get over it. [SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty, I would beat myself up for something like that. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Nate is right to not trust Joe because Joe is like, if it was me, that would never happen. [SPEAKER_00]: So I just want to prove myself, I just want to go up the ranks, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Nate to know something about Joe that we don't know, but, I don't know, let's see how it plays out. [SPEAKER_00]: I do want to say that it's pretty cool that Asia being a former deckhand before and helping out is pretty damn cool. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Asia is pretty cool. [SPEAKER_00]: She is very, um, too bubbly for my liking, but she's pretty cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they always ask the question, who is the best, um, chiefs do and they go hand, uh, they go Kate. [SPEAKER_00]: They go Asia, honestly, I don't remember Hannah and Kate, because I remember more of the attitude than anything or in Daisy, but I feel like you've had a big, I'll say Asia to be honest with you, if she's in the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember Hannah and Kate, I remember Hannah being checked out, I remember Kate just feel like, also the same thing. [SPEAKER_00]: I think the thing we had in Kate is, even if they were good as their jobs, they just seemed over it all the time. [SPEAKER_00]: I have to re-watch maybe like all the earlier seasons, [SPEAKER_00]: to kind of see what they were like.

[SPEAKER_00]: But for right now, I still think that DZ has a lot of [SPEAKER_00]: a lot a long way to go, we're being a lead because she's just always whining all the time. [SPEAKER_00]: She has the skills, she knows what to do, but she's just always whining about one thing about the other. [SPEAKER_00]: So I think I'll pick Asia.

[SPEAKER_00]: Who would you pick? [SPEAKER_00]: Who would you say is the best she's doing among all the ones that you've seen? [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely the worst is, what was her name? [SPEAKER_00]: The British one who kept crying and who had a problem with Serena? [SPEAKER_00]: That's the worst without [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, um, the girls are fighting.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's once I did though, but Jen, um, this is. [SPEAKER_00]: The stew, who has a one-sided, before Kaylee, that's insane. [SPEAKER_00]: It hasn't even started, and she's already feeling like insecure is the best way to put it. [SPEAKER_00]: But it looks like we're gonna have a good season.

[SPEAKER_00]: They always know how to pull the team together, so we'll see how it goes. [SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see what happens, and which romance has happened. [SPEAKER_00]: And if girls are still gonna give Joe a chance, I can't imagine watching Joe and still giving him a chance when you come in here.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, [SPEAKER_00]: We shall see. [SPEAKER_00]: All right, I will take a break and I'll be right back to talk so I don't have to tell it. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'm going to have to tell it. [SPEAKER_00]: And then there are two parts reunion and thank God it was just two parts. [SPEAKER_00]: This is just [SPEAKER_00]: One to the left, one to the right, a bunch of immature people.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand Lake and Michaels. [SPEAKER_00]: I do not understand them. [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot explain them. [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot make an excuse. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought Lake saw the error of her ways. [SPEAKER_00]: It was apologizing, but she came on here and was like screw that.

[SPEAKER_00]: She came on here sitting with an iPad in her hand, and I'm like, why does she have an iPad? [SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, the moment came, it was to show text messages for Jordan, to speak for Jordan. [SPEAKER_00]: It just fell flat and it's like, what are we doing? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, she's being like fighting for Jordan all season.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's apparently the reason that she's mad at Mia. [SPEAKER_00]: But I guess when she sees that he doesn't make any sense. [SPEAKER_00]: Now she's mad that Mia was talking to her ex. [SPEAKER_00]: I believe Mia. [SPEAKER_00]: Like we are like she said, what do I care about a 20 year old, what am I going to do with this man, you told me to go in there, you didn't meet that late was really drunk, so maybe she didn't remember what happened and I like when she said I apologize and she's like, no, you didn't just like roll the tape and they did, she did apologize, so what is your beef with me, you just hate that we like her, there is nothing you're going to do that's going to bring that down and even if you wanted us to hate her, this.

[SPEAKER_00]: is not what you're going to do to do that. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't accept your apology and then Michael's like, oh, oh, I'm like, gosh, this is when you reminded that these kids are like, what is it? [SPEAKER_00]: 22, 23 and just have a lot of life left to live to just grow up. [SPEAKER_00]: Maddie and Joe, I don't know what is happening.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is yet another reunion where we're getting emotional about Trevor. [SPEAKER_00]: What? [SPEAKER_00]: Maddie hits me at two now? [SPEAKER_00]: I just, uh, I don't know what's happening. [SPEAKER_00]: I just maddie enjoy every year. [SPEAKER_00]: Keep going. [SPEAKER_00]: Keep going.

[SPEAKER_00]: I, [SPEAKER_00]: Don't know what the end game is gonna be for them, but I don't know how Joe watches this every year and still doesn't feel some type of way about how mad it feels about him. [SPEAKER_00]: I, I don't know, we gotta see this. [SPEAKER_00]: Emmy is, is held to the fire about how she behaved all season.

[SPEAKER_00]: She does the usual apology. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know this. [SPEAKER_00]: I had to know, they can Michael's educated me and micro regressions. [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you educating? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, why are you friends with Emmy? [SPEAKER_00]: This makes no sense. [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, look guys, I'm not saying that there's not going to be [SPEAKER_00]: conflicts, but this went beyond conflict.

[SPEAKER_00]: This went into dangerous territory. [SPEAKER_00]: This went with Emmy telling everyone and anyone who would listen going to the front desk literally knowing how it is to be a black man in Charleston or in America putting him in danger. [SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't end up really bad. [SPEAKER_00]: I know people who think like over exaggerating, we are not.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is not an exaggeration. [SPEAKER_00]: to go talk to Lucia because Lucia's black and then she went there and turned the whole story. [SPEAKER_00]: It is very sinister, guys. [SPEAKER_00]: This is disgusting. [SPEAKER_00]: Like what she did with Brad is not cool at all. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care how much she apologizes and I love love how Brad responded to her apology.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like you don't get to cry and say sorry just because you got backlash and I'm supposed to be like, oh you're fine. [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay and then make you feel better? [SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to accept it. [SPEAKER_00]: You do what you want to do, but I'm not going to do that and I really really like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Even she's mentioning because she does that thing because she's crying also and saying that, oh, we'll like to say that she's an emotional terrorist. [SPEAKER_00]: And basically, what I understood from that is like saying, like, you know, people when you're arguing or trying to have an actual conversation, [SPEAKER_00]: and then you start crying, then it's like, okay, where do we go from here?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because now you've hijacked the conversation and as I go, I'm making you cry and feel bad. [SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I understood that to me. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, yes, don't do it again. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't say, you know, I'm not going to cry. [SPEAKER_00]: Just don't cry. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't tell us that you don't want to cry.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I'm glad this has been put to rest. [SPEAKER_00]: Brad is responding in his own way and I'm glad that he said like you don't know the emotional handcuffs that I was in. [SPEAKER_00]: Like she's never going to understand what he went through because even then he handles this really really well and he explained why he had to record it because he didn't get anything out of it but he had to because I'm scared that she's saying that she's scared of what he's going to do but he's scared of what she's going to do and what she's going to say and she did exactly that.

[SPEAKER_00]: She turned the story around and said different things, and quite frankly, I don't think Andy asked her the hard questions to ask like, what were you trying to get out of it? [SPEAKER_00]: And they should have played a montage of her saying different stories, really. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Andy did ask like, you know, like, she didn't say will, she always used to say my fiance, my fiance.

[SPEAKER_00]: And those are the point where she was like, he's not appointed to show. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to talk about him and Andy just turned around to teach him. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, what have you heard about him cheating on other people? [SPEAKER_00]: It's like he did exist. [SPEAKER_00]: So that was funny.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: The whole thing was not enjoyable to watch. [SPEAKER_00]: It just, I couldn't wait for it to end because there's just a lot of buzzwords being thrown around and people not realizing that they're not being held accountable and just screaming, shouting and giving what they thought was giving and it wasn't.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it was just, I don't know, we'll see. [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what happens in next season. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they have to come back. [SPEAKER_00]: They have a lot of buzz, maybe. [SPEAKER_00]: They get drowned out by the other bravo shows, but, you know, there's a lot more white people in the show that I didn't expect them to be on pause.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I expect to have another season and it'll be interesting to see how that season goes and I hope like Michael's and Lake take a look at themselves. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, when they ask like, you know, what she, her mom feels about Emmy, I said, go, she loves Emmy. [SPEAKER_00]: They're fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if actually doesn't think, will she do it on it? [SPEAKER_00]: Once that got to do anything and also, if her mom really thinks that will do and she don't hurt, then please don't make your mom look bad. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't share that with everybody because that's insane. [SPEAKER_00]: That's a whole other thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, that's done. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's it. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a whole lot to say because I'm not going to lie. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that I really enjoyed the reunion. [SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted it to be over and done with. [UNKNOWN]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Final, the valley.

[SPEAKER_00]: I still like this show guys. [SPEAKER_00]: It is their people that are truly living their lives as messy as it is. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not trying to drive a story. [SPEAKER_00]: They're so many other shows out there where people are trying to drive a story, but everyone is living out their lives.

[SPEAKER_00]: Whether or not they look stupid, like Brittany paying her boyfriend to come take care of her and he's still didn't show up and he used somebody she gave to buy her flowers while she had to like to search and reduce the boobs from the ex husband who tried to own her. [SPEAKER_00]: Hope you cut up with all of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But either way, [SPEAKER_00]: They're driving in the story and they're being honest in front of the cameras. [SPEAKER_00]: I need Jasmine to stop saying that that's not because her best friend, because maybe he is her best friend. [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think she is his best friend. [SPEAKER_00]: There were just so many instances in the last maybe two or three episodes where he doesn't seem like he's standing up for her.

[SPEAKER_00]: He Kristen and Luke are obsessed, though, under the bedazzle of Nia and Danny. [SPEAKER_00]: And that seems to be the focus when he had his very, very sad and sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: performing party. [SPEAKER_00]: They should have canceled that. [SPEAKER_00]: He gave his speech about those who have helped him, who have been there for him.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he called up Christian. [SPEAKER_00]: He did not mention Jasmine or say anything. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he mentioned Britme and I'm just like, what are we doing? [SPEAKER_00]: When they met up and she was asking him to be in her wedding and was just expressing some of the stresses that they're going through somehow in between maybe he's editing the conversation got turned [SPEAKER_00]: him and what he's going through with Benji instead and how he's stressed and she's just trying to talk and he's just I'm feeling for Jasmine a lot because there was that scene where a lot I was expressing the whole thing with Darkside Danny and she was trying to talk and it honestly felt like they couldn't see her.

[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like she was cast with a ghost. [SPEAKER_00]: No one could see it. [SPEAKER_00]: She was trying to interject and everyone's just like okay talking over her and I'm just a [SPEAKER_00]: And then she cried in a confessional, like I don't want to think that about my friend. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like I got the listings to all of you, because she's white.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't know, I don't want to feel that, but I'm kind of feeling that. [SPEAKER_00]: But so I'm just like, just keep it on the side. [SPEAKER_00]: And until he says that he's best friend, you're, yeah, he's best friend. [SPEAKER_00]: Just maybe we just keep it on the low. [SPEAKER_00]: But looks like she got married.

[SPEAKER_00]: Zach was in the wedding party. [SPEAKER_00]: She knew I was on there too, and Britney, where I'm her party. [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, all as well, maybe she's just a show. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Jesse trying to seek whatever this is on Britney's insane. [SPEAKER_00]: I know they wanted to defend Danny, the thing is, I mean, one scene, Jesse did admit that listen, we all drink, we all drink bad things, but like his behavior because I think Lisa was trying to say I've never seen in order, but Jesse's like no.

[SPEAKER_00]: it is there. [SPEAKER_00]: Like when he becomes darkside Danny, like it is bad, I am new fan of Britney, but there's something so sinister about talking to other men. [SPEAKER_00]: He was talking to shorts and Danny and saying, we're not going to have this anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to do this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like they should part of the take down with Jacks. [SPEAKER_00]: And then Schwartz goes to the confessional and it's like listen, I don't think Britney was thinking about this. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know the 100% this people have [SPEAKER_00]: But what he said in the confessional part of what he said made sense, where it's just like listen, she takes the wrath of jacks all the time, that she was probably just grateful like listen, if he's focused on Danny, then that's what it's gonna be and she's just gonna go along with it because at least the focus is not on her and she can focus on her child.

[SPEAKER_00]: Why do men not like to speak up in front of other men? [SPEAKER_00]: Like speak up in front of them and say that and said he did the [SPEAKER_00]: that was really annoying to watch. [SPEAKER_00]: If Danny was in my friend group he would annoy the crap out of me. [SPEAKER_00]: He just fances himself like this funny, great guy, but he's so performative and everything is so loud and obnoxious and this is without alcohol.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I would not mess with him. [SPEAKER_00]: Lala did mention this as well that Danny and Nia are focused on the appearance and how things come off and how things look, which leads me to the meal train for Brittany, which was started by Nia. [SPEAKER_00]: On prompted, nobody asked her to do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: She says, I'm starting a meal train, sign up for it, but then she didn't follow through and says, Oh, she's trying to survive. [SPEAKER_00]: start something if you know you're already drowning. [SPEAKER_00]: You tell us time without number. [SPEAKER_00]: We see it all the times that you're drowning.

[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody told you to do this, but this is another thing that makes you feel like, oh, I'm a good friend. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm going to do this. [SPEAKER_00]: But if you don't have the capacity, why are you doing it? [SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you just mention it to someone? [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're not going to follow through at least call and say, hey, I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not equal to. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think someone even sent money. [SPEAKER_00]: and she still hadn't even sent the money. [SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to survive over here as we hear all the time for her in the four. [SPEAKER_00]: So why do this? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how I feel about the not including Janet.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're not friends. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they just aren't. [SPEAKER_00]: If she's trying to do something nice, then go all the way. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, she could have just included her in the text chain or tell someone [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I'm not speaking to Janet but feel free to include her.

[SPEAKER_00]: She could have done that. [SPEAKER_00]: Her friends did tell her because I think we were like on friendship or told her but they must have told her because how else, which she have gotten that spaghetti and ziplock thing coming over. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, she could have done something about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: She chose not to but we have to make it a big deal because it is a reality show. [SPEAKER_00]: which is why what Jasmine said is right. [SPEAKER_00]: Jasmine said like the good Christian thing to do because you can't pick and choose when you want to be Christian. [SPEAKER_00]: The biggest rule is love that neighbor as I self.

[SPEAKER_00]: So do the kind thing to the Christian thing, even though you're not speaking, just include Janet because it's not a conversation with her but she's one of Britney's closest friends and she leaves close to her and just include her. [SPEAKER_00]: So for Danny to get all [SPEAKER_00]: I feel about the fact that she's like the big Christian thing, I don't bring my faith into it and all that.

[SPEAKER_00]: That is exactly what she meant. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't be a Christian by name. [SPEAKER_00]: Do it by action and don't get mad. [SPEAKER_00]: these people, Brittany needs to go to rehab for her men picker because this is terrible. [SPEAKER_00]: You cannot go from Jack's to Brandon, like now you've got to look inwards and see what's going on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I forgot to mention, the question of whether elective surgery won't warrant the military. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't get the question. [SPEAKER_00]: It's always a good idea to help friends, whatever makes their life easier, whether or not, because I see some people saying, oh, she has an autistic child or she's going, it doesn't matter.

[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to have all these [SPEAKER_00]: easy. [SPEAKER_00]: She has surgeries and the hard time moving around in this food and that's one less thing. [SPEAKER_00]: She has to think about, so the answer is yes, it does warrant a meal train. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, because you're just doing something nice.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, sometimes if you're friends who just, oh, you like the way I make my casserole, I'll just make one for you. [SPEAKER_00]: Even if you're not going to do anything, again, one less thing too, worry about. [SPEAKER_00]: Before I go shout out to Michelle, [SPEAKER_00]: I'll look fantastic.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got to double those seven parties. [SPEAKER_00]: Do a Dacity of Jessie to ask her to be in January when she cried when they had their conversation. [SPEAKER_00]: You do not have essay in her life anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: Stop asking her questions. [SPEAKER_00]: Stop asking her to be in January.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if she wants to wear their ring, yes, you want to put it in a trust way, Isabella, go be a Dets first and don't concern yourself with Michelle's finances. [SPEAKER_00]: The woman has to deal with you. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, she is dealing with her ex. [SPEAKER_00]: She's went through a divorce on national TV.

[SPEAKER_00]: When through a breakup with a guy, you left her in debt. [SPEAKER_00]: She has to watch you in a relationship with someone else. [SPEAKER_00]: And she has to watch you treat this new girlfriend in a way that you never treated her. [SPEAKER_00]: She's still grieving her mom. [SPEAKER_00]: A lot is going on with Michelle.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, please, Jesse, please handle her with her with care. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't come out here and say, asking her, oh, did you mean what you say or were you being honest? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, why are you always trying to get her in a gutturn woman? [SPEAKER_00]: You're in a relationship. [SPEAKER_00]: You're happy, please focus on that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Leave her alone. [SPEAKER_00]: Who knew the day would come where I was defending the show. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: All right. [SPEAKER_00]: Final thoughts, final thoughts. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why Kristen is so here for Nia and Danny. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is it? [SPEAKER_00]: What?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like she came in guns blazing even when they had like a really, really good conversation already and the already apologizing, you know, took accountability. [SPEAKER_00]: But also what's so fascinating is that La La doesn't go nuclear on [SPEAKER_00]: Kristen, she's still trying to say calm down.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, we didn't say anything. [SPEAKER_00]: But the law, I know, we just go gons of blazing. [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe there's some respect there or something that's going on there. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think Michelle is saying, like, I think people just get triggered at the mention of Janet's name.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, is Janet is here, right? [SPEAKER_00]: She's a coworker. [SPEAKER_00]: You cannot ice her out. [SPEAKER_00]: You have to work with her post. [SPEAKER_00]: I get the annoyance. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, Janet is doing an act right now. [SPEAKER_00]: I know that what she said was right about [SPEAKER_00]: Janet is not for me.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let me just put it that way. [SPEAKER_00]: Like every now and then, she tries her best, but her true personality always comes out. [SPEAKER_00]: And she is somehow in the Amanda School of Victimhood. [SPEAKER_00]: Like she's just, oh, I'm not trying to be old. [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't want me, I'm not going to be here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to leave. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to, and I get it that she's tired of it. [SPEAKER_00]: But every now and then it just comes out and that shouting match with Luke. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where to go, [SPEAKER_00]: um the cult leader and i'm just say Charles Manson and i'm like oh god jetted you know that i'm going to receive that well i get what she's trying to say but maybe she's going to use another example but not that so we'll see they have to do with her so we'll see if they're going to continue with this oh i have to say when um [SPEAKER_00]: Oh god, I just blanked on the channel's husband's snake.

[SPEAKER_00]: When he had the surgery on his knee and he was crying, they get in that his son was going to forget him. [SPEAKER_00]: When am I missing parents? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, why would he son forget him? [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's not playing with him. [SPEAKER_00]: He's still in the house. [SPEAKER_00]: He's not not going to see him.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, why is he... [SPEAKER_00]: very concerned about that. [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Kudos to him for coming to the party and he climbed those stairs. [SPEAKER_00]: It looked very painful, but it almost felt like he came and then he left Jason. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I went blank. [SPEAKER_00]: But it almost felt like he came and then he left immediately.

[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe, uh, contractual for the show, like, I'm here, like, I'm still participating in see me, so maybe. [SPEAKER_00]: Alright guys, that's all I got for you today. [SPEAKER_00]: As always, I would love to hear your thoughts on the shows. [SPEAKER_00]: If you have any questions for me, let me know.

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