Reality Show Ramble: Survivor 50 w/Mel

[SPEAKER_01]: Hi everybody, welcome to another episode of All To Call. [SPEAKER_01]: I am your host, Tane here with a new episode, y'all know that I love Survivor. [SPEAKER_01]: I never cover it because I have to enjoy some stuff, but I had to talk about Survivor 50. [SPEAKER_01]: And the first person to talk about it with me this season is Mel.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Mel, how are you? [SPEAKER_00]: Hi, I did not realize I'm the first to get to talk about survival. [SPEAKER_00]: This is so exciting because I never really get to talk about survival. [SPEAKER_00]: Like if I do podcast guests, it means I've usually other shows. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm very excited because survival is my...

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I obviously watched the real world and stuff back in the day, but I was a survivor day one. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, my bread and butter. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I told the people a while ago, like survivor was my first foray into reality TV when I moved to America. [SPEAKER_01]: So back from day one, when Richard won and I was like, whoa, this is so cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: What a concept. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's crazy that it's 50. [SPEAKER_00]: Did you watch all 15 or I did take a mild break during college as many of us did took place on Thursday, Thursdays back in the day, so sometimes I didn't watch, but I did catch up on those seasons later, but now I'm like, you know, don't miss it.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's my faith. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did take a break. [SPEAKER_01]: I did take a break. [SPEAKER_01]: I got some point where just I just couldn't fit it in at that time, which is crazy because I feel like I had more time now and somehow I fit it in now. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: We find more shows.

[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't go back to catch up, but it's still again, my trifecta, it is survive or the challenge and. [SPEAKER_01]: Traders. [SPEAKER_01]: So a little bit of housekeeping before we dive into that. [SPEAKER_01]: Just reminding you guys that patreon.com slash Altacol and may affect some new bonus episodes are up there for you to listen to Just did inside the manifest fair with Brian.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I mentioned there. [SPEAKER_01]: It was Uncomfortable for me to watch. [SPEAKER_01]: Did you watch that mail? [SPEAKER_00]: No, but I actually saw somebody else leave a review and they said the exact same thing. [SPEAKER_00]: So I might just have to listen to your recap and not watch [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and take a word for it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, maybe do that. [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, that's up there did that with Brian also did dirty rotten scandals the e version of the America's next top model with Raven That's on there too, and if you want to go three episodes back did before the 90 days season so far with Jason so all available bonus episodes on Patreon on the regular feed still covering lovers blind Sweden.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think the next episodes will be the weddings [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Plathfield is coming back April 1st. [SPEAKER_01]: I will be covering that. [SPEAKER_01]: You burn as well. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm on the fence with temptation temptation island. [SPEAKER_01]: That's coming back. [SPEAKER_01]: That's a hot mess.

[SPEAKER_01]: And working on that we'll see what's going on with the schedule. [SPEAKER_01]: But that's also on there. [SPEAKER_01]: And my final homework for you guys. [SPEAKER_01]: I do have an upcoming episode where I will be chatting with the reality TV producers. [SPEAKER_01]: So send me any questions that you have about reality TV.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I [SPEAKER_01]: I will ask and it may be answered. [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, that's very exciting. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to listen to that. [SPEAKER_00]: And I got to think of some good questions too. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I will be waiting for them. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so if I were 50, how are we feeling about the season so far?

[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, I'm enjoying it. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not perfect, never is. [SPEAKER_00]: We're still, do we really love new era stuff? [SPEAKER_00]: Do we prefer two tribes, always? [SPEAKER_00]: But I am enjoying overall that sort of nostalgic feeling, the lot of it tying back to history, getting the flashbacks.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we suffered through one of the worst rewards, but what is that, but not a historical survivor thing, because we all made Jack and Jill joke. [SPEAKER_00]: So you need a bad reward everyone's smell, you know? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm enjoying it because I didn't want to get my hopes up.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was one of the people whining about the casting. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I wasn't sure, like, you know, is this the best we could do or what are they, why do we have this many new era people, three people from the season is kind of like a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: But little did I know. [SPEAKER_01]: This is why I'm not a cast and producer.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, who knew all these people were coming with traumas? [SPEAKER_01]: All these traumas are playing out in front of us. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're fucking trauma together. [SPEAKER_01]: to give us entertainment is sounds terrible, but I'm enjoying it so far. [SPEAKER_01]: We're an episode five.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you've seen spoiler alert guys for a last-size episode. [SPEAKER_01]: The exit interviews with Angelina. [SPEAKER_00]: I did a quick skim on the Mike Bloom's mom. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I haven't had a chance to listen to like actual podcast one. [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm very intrigued.

[SPEAKER_00]: You've got to tell me the T of what's gone down. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so the main highlight, my saw, the interview with Dalton Ross is her talking about how the women are being under edited this season and they're being done a disservice and it's basically like the brococho and she's not lying and she mentions how Zach Brown has more confessional centipony, which is true.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, there's that. [SPEAKER_01]: And it looks like she says they're going back. [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like season 15, not 50, where it's going back. [SPEAKER_01]: To what it used to be in the old seasons. [SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, she's not wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: know, the math is unfortunately correct.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have, you know, I do a fantasy league for group of mine and confessional counts are there. [SPEAKER_00]: So I see it all the time and sometimes a big how is somebody, you know, so low because all their teams there and it's like, oh, because their team is women who aren't getting confessional, which is so unfair.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's the disparity continues even in confessionals. [SPEAKER_01]: And you would think that a show that is 50 seasons old would no better, but at least fine ways to incorporate them. [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't fit into the bigger game picture, because that is like obviously there's stuff happening that's like out of their hands.

[SPEAKER_00]: But like how do you fit those character moments and that are funny things they do? [SPEAKER_00]: You know, what's the [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Christian poop just pants so like what's the equivalent for yeah, but it's a woman do that's like a fun quirky thing that doesn't have to be pooping her pants, but you know, yeah, something funny somebody does like the talent show was so male based and everything there's just so much more you know that there's more out there and I think that there's probably a lot of stories to that.

[SPEAKER_00]: We get a little bit of like their survivor trauma, but I feel that we're not getting many updates about how their lives have changed, which is very different. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel compared to past seasons, because as I've watched it, they are like very different people who have gone through either traumatic events or joyful events, like lots of things.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I wish there was a little bit of that, but maybe they're also trying to stay away from because we do complain a new [SPEAKER_00]: emotional and yeah but everything is like what's your sob story as a point of just like play or so I don't I don't know but I think it's different when it's a returning player that we saw when they were like Jenna was what 21 years old when she had the show yeah and we haven't seen her since all sorts of like you tell us what her life is like you know her kids a grown adult now that we had heard about so I miss that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they're overcorrecting and they need to put more faith in the people that they cast not characters like the people that they cast and a very good example of this is like the whole fallout with Christian we are going to talk about that I think the plan guys is to talk about you know certain highlights then we'll talk about episode five which was on last night.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, the whole thing happened with Christian and Emily has been back and forth within a where she stands. [SPEAKER_01]: We did not get enough story from her like, okay, now this has happened. [SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to go back to Ozzie? [SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to go back to Christian?

[SPEAKER_01]: That's an example of where that is part of the story. [SPEAKER_01]: If the argument is that, oh, they're not really part of the big story. [SPEAKER_01]: Emily is a very big part of that story on the Vatsui tribe. [SPEAKER_01]: So, [SPEAKER_00]: I totally agree. [SPEAKER_00]: I felt like it was like sort of getting slapped in the face that Ozzy says we're like, you are my number one.

[SPEAKER_00]: You were who I want to play with. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't really want to play with Christian. [SPEAKER_00]: I understand you're attached to him. [SPEAKER_00]: But like this is what I want to do. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And then she went right back to Christian. [SPEAKER_00]: I wish there was just that one confessional.

[SPEAKER_00]: between or afterwards to say like, I want to work with both or I need like this person is my number one. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just using the other person. [SPEAKER_00]: I think there could be more internal monologue for these female players that are like holding up everything that are coming up with these ideas.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're keeping, they're the foundation of these alliances of these men who are so strong and thinking at all, but actually there's some powerful women behind the scenes doing it at all. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let me start with who are you rooting for? [SPEAKER_00]: Well, for anybody who does not know, I'm quite biased.

[SPEAKER_00]: I am rooting for Aubrey. [SPEAKER_00]: Aubrey is a long time friend of mine. [SPEAKER_00]: I met her before survivor. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I've rooted her on and this is like just a coincidence of, you know, a survivor. [SPEAKER_00]: I long times the survivor van meets him and he gets on the show.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm very biased and I know, you know, mixed opinions of how she's played various times over the years. [SPEAKER_00]: But what I'd say is that who you see on TV is a character while also I do see my genuine friend there, but you are also seeing an edit to like who this person is, what their game is, et cetera.

[SPEAKER_00]: So a big Aubrey fan of course. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I really like Tiffany. [SPEAKER_00]: So then the lining is like, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Music to my ears really been enjoying Christian. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we're getting a little too much Christian now, but I do like him. [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, of course, I'm a human being, so I am rooting for Siri.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Love D. And then I think I'm becoming a big riso fan. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh. [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh. [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, let's begin debate. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that there's something very earnest about. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that because it is 50 and it's a celebration of the show.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: That having someone who is a lifelong super fan. [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_00]: And is like a decent player of the game and young because this cast is skew a bit older like it's a good balance. [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that brings an energy and that new era [SPEAKER_00]: Um, versus like, Jonathan's new era, like, I don't really care, you know, like I would watch Brazil play a few times because I do think he will like change and learn and adapt his game.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: I agree. [SPEAKER_00]: I agree. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: When you said I'm not when he was like, not a guy's guy. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, I love you. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, our lists are kind of similar, it's so hard because for each person I name, I'm like, oh, but I like that person.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but I like that person like about most people there [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think the easier thing you could ask me was like, who do you, who do you dislike? [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like I can name a few. [SPEAKER_00]: But I get, I do get why people are present on this season, that they aren't for me either like for their own ideals or just like long time in the game, but I understand why they would be on season 50.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, Stephanie basically I'm not I've never been I've never been a Stephanie man like I just didn't get the hype back and they I've Respected the chief is the last person on her to ride like a fur like that was a first yeah survivor history Hey, we decimated an entire tribe then even merged.

[SPEAKER_00]: They just absorbed her And the ugliest chocolate brown buffs which now I appreciate [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I just like I've never gravitated towards her game and her personality so she's just one for me them like I get why she's there. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I don't really care. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was about to say I was like just name names name them.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, name them. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a huge colby fan. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you can sure that's good. [SPEAKER_00]: But again, I understand your importance to the delineated. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I am, I'm surprised it's so long ago. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really remember his season, that was season two, but I'm enjoying him so far on the show.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Coach gave him truly a terrible nickname. [SPEAKER_00]: And I can't even remember what it was because it was so long-winded. [SPEAKER_00]: Like you could almost when he got Nick named you could tell like coach or he was like saying it back over and over to coach because he was also trying to remember what it was because like I need to know this it's going to happen if I don't it's going to look bad, but it's [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't listen. [SPEAKER_01]: You put here him the three on our integrity guys. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm zoning out. [SPEAKER_01]: I have just said to not for me. [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm rooting for a Christian like I call him our national treasure right now. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm hoping that this edit it's either it's a winners edit or it's an edit of listen.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's leaving soon. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just get everything out there. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's, you know, we'll find out our IP Charlie. [SPEAKER_01]: I was rooting for Charlie. [SPEAKER_00]: I was fine with him going, but I am a Tain and I already right now. [SPEAKER_00]: I am dressed as an homage to Charlie because I realize that I do have a Maybe in green Rubbed shirt that I wear all the time and I've tied a buff around my throat.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've originally different buff different buff color. [SPEAKER_00]: I bought VAT to not knowing what a curse They eventually become If I wanted to support your girl and then you end up with the curse tribe, but you know, nice color [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, we will talk about those because I just wasn't expecting this much trauma coming through and maybe the casting produces expected it and it's coming out at different ways.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm rooting for Camilla. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Ella rooting for Tiffany also I'm rooting for Aussie, but I don't know after last episode and like I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know that your planes are vibrant? [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you visa whiny? [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't get it. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a bit of both.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, because I see where he's coming from being left out in a vote and being like hung out to drive where he probably maybe he would have just gone with it. [SPEAKER_00]: He wouldn't have like even really went away with my life. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, even before he said it in the confessional, I wrote it down.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't know why he's making such a stink because he wouldn't have like it is. [SPEAKER_01]: And if they left you out up your social game, the whole goal is to up your game. [SPEAKER_01]: So they include you in it. [SPEAKER_00]: I just three two one. [SPEAKER_00]: So he wasn't the only person left.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I guess Stephanie was like it and not, you know, it's. [SPEAKER_00]: it's complicated. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm intrigued at least to see, listen, is he playing well? [SPEAKER_00]: Not necessarily, but I am intrigued that Aussie is trying to play better. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he really is like in their thinking, like, I'm eating right now. [SPEAKER_00]: I've got this, like, I have a change man when it's like, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's main characters. [SPEAKER_00]: Plus it's too. [SPEAKER_00]: Plus you're heart. [SPEAKER_00]: I do what I cut his hair on the island.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just not. [SPEAKER_00]: It's growing out even worse. [SPEAKER_00]: It's worse. [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, like you said, I'm rooting for Siri. [SPEAKER_01]: I think in my brain, I'm just like, how can she pull this off? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, no one is going to take her. [SPEAKER_00]: to the end.

[SPEAKER_00]: But then Rizzo would give his game up for her as the way I feel because he's a super fan, and I think he would do it. [SPEAKER_00]: But besides that, you can't like, I think it's you keeper as long as you can because she's amazing, but like she wins an any scenario if she gets to that final level.

[SPEAKER_00]: She could play the worst game possible and still said there and I would still give my vote because I'd be like, it's serene. [SPEAKER_00]: You, this is a cumulative award. [SPEAKER_01]: But here's the thing. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying like, how would she make it to the end? [SPEAKER_01]: But when you think of the fact that Sandra made a twice, Tony made a twice, they let them get to the end again.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so maybe it is possible. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: She's such a force. [SPEAKER_01]: Good segue. [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about that? [SPEAKER_01]: Because everyone's, I've heard, it keeps saying, oh, it's not that bad, and I don't think I like it. [SPEAKER_00]: I had a conversation yesterday about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they made a great point, which is they didn't mind it being there. [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't like that's all the idols. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's a good point, which is like, yeah, one of them, make one of them a Billie Eilish boomerang idol. [SPEAKER_00]: Come up with some other ideas, because now they're all out there, they're all the exact same.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, what are the other twist of it? [SPEAKER_00]: If everything's supposed to be so dynamic, [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And also, like, we're not playing them. [SPEAKER_00]: We're sitting on them. [SPEAKER_00]: At when we fans voted, and I put it in. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I really don't know what we did.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, come on. [SPEAKER_00]: I remember them saying, like, dynamic, it's up. [SPEAKER_00]: So to me, what I took for like dynamic was maybe, like, things last for a couple days, like when it's like, hey, you need to use this idol by second tribal council. [SPEAKER_00]: Third, you know, like things that are doing that, not like passing it off [SPEAKER_00]: forever and you also gave one not the genu to the guy who sat on an idol for 25 days so like that thing going nowhere.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's it's just like not hitting and I also [SPEAKER_00]: the Billie Eilish investment. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I have no attachment to her music, so I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Here's a thing. [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, like I get it from like a business perspective. [SPEAKER_00]: We need the biggest celebrity names.

[SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't even acknowledged her posted about it. [SPEAKER_00]: The point of this probably was Billie Eilish is going to put it on her Instagram to however many million followers she has and they're all going to want to watch survive or whether it's not on her feed, she's not talking [SPEAKER_01]: When you said we need the biggest names.

[SPEAKER_01]: Do we? [SPEAKER_01]: Survivor is a big name. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a whole bunch of people who stop watching are watching 50. [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't meet this and if we were gonna do it [SPEAKER_01]: for the fans fans, make it a sea of boomerang unless she hates survivors so much. [SPEAKER_00]: Like somebody or like, I think it would be funnier because we all use the term colloquially.

[SPEAKER_00]: Make it the Tyler Perry. [SPEAKER_00]: I know. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Like that people who we genuinely know watch the show and maybe like I just missed out on a, you know, that's not my niche of music or whatever that she talks about all the time, probably no. [SPEAKER_00]: I just like, no.

[SPEAKER_00]: No one's same with like, I, [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the Zach Brown thing, not my cup of tea, if it were somebody else out there, maybe I would have enjoyed it a little more. [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't an entertaining experience, probably a life like, you know, as coach babbled on and on a life-changing experience, whatever I think in the moment, if you were there, it's a very cool unique thing like who gets that done.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it was just like, we don't care about these celebrity super fans like. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we all know that Jeff has been running this train wherever he wants to go. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's a fear of like, oh my god, I'm getting older. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get replaced and let me just do whatever I don't know what it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: But he's just like stuck on, I don't care where you guys think. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing what I want to do. [SPEAKER_01]: And this whole introduction of celebrities is kind of strange to me, especially on 50 introduced it on a regular season, I guess. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, why don't we meet them all where when we needed that and then also that sets up long term and I know part of is that we don't have reunions anymore and this season I'm assuming we voted for a reunion like let's be Yeah, I think actually I think it's like known because wasn't the immunity hunt.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think go to the reunion but like [SPEAKER_00]: build something across time so we know who these celebrity fans are because to me you could be telling me like yeah they're like Billions she's a fan sure like I don't know but versus like I know Tyler Perry's man he's watched it all these years I know that they had in the preview for the season they mentioned Jimmy Fallon I at least know Jimmy Fallon [SPEAKER_00]: watches the show because he's had from survivor on occasionally like I'll see like a viral clip.

[SPEAKER_00]: So at least that makes sense versus these total rando famous people that allegedly watch the show. [SPEAKER_00]: And we again, we don't need it now. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we don't. [SPEAKER_01]: We don't need it all. [SPEAKER_01]: And even if we're going to incorporate it, [SPEAKER_01]: do it as a reward.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like part of the season is people looking for idols, if you get an idol out like you said, we're sitting on it. [SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to get the fun of hunting for idols because you need to go out for another one to come in. [SPEAKER_01]: So [SPEAKER_01]: That's part's gone in the hands of the fan, my ass.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I think we need more people go. [SPEAKER_00]: If we, like, yeah, I was saying to it's crazy that last night was the first time we had like a double boot episode when there's so many people. [SPEAKER_00]: You needed to be churning through people for the possibility of this idol to make any momentum in the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not because we're getting rid of one a week. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a quick break and we'll be back to talk about Christians move and what your thoughts are [SPEAKER_01]: And we're back. [SPEAKER_01]: Christians move was very divisive.

[SPEAKER_01]: My friend texted me and was like, what did you think of his move? [SPEAKER_01]: I said it was great. [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, what? [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't know, am I wrong? [SPEAKER_00]: What did you think of it and I'll share what I thought of it? [SPEAKER_00]: No, you're very right.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a great move. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that having the David and Glythe trio together is bad, it's a huge target. [SPEAKER_00]: And already, I think Christian is very aware that he is like the big, he's going to be the big game fish of the game. [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, like I have to say like, [SPEAKER_00]: with whatever's coming up like everyone knows he is running this game like he is in trouble.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to need new allies and whatever and he can't rely on the past. [SPEAKER_00]: Mike White is a huge person that people do want to work with. [SPEAKER_00]: Even outside of the white lotus of it all like he's pleasant. [SPEAKER_00]: He's agreeable, you know like he's fun to talk to and you just want positive people out there.

[SPEAKER_00]: He kind of it was right to get rid of him. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he wasn't he he would turn he's not that type he like he's close to Christian, but I don't think they're that close, but I've heard like in his eggs It's talking about that they're thick as deep, so I don't really know what the truth is, you know like yeah [SPEAKER_00]: What did you think?

[SPEAKER_00]: You liked it, too. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I liked it. [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was like the correct move. [SPEAKER_01]: I think where Mike White messed up was trying to play on Christian's trauma. [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you were trying to say, oh, Gabby did this to you. [SPEAKER_01]: You have a blind spot and Christian saw right through it.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I've always said this, I know there are all half stars in their eyes for Mike White. [SPEAKER_01]: I know Aussie really wanted to be on white lotus, but [SPEAKER_01]: Mike White is Hollywood through and through. [SPEAKER_01]: And I do think, again, I don't know him, there's a kind of mean streak about him.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's a kind of like, Mike White doesn't care. [SPEAKER_01]: Like where others might be. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I feel bad. [SPEAKER_01]: Mike White is not going to feel bad. [SPEAKER_01]: Which is partly what makes him great at survivor. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what he used on Christian.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's who's to say that he wasn't going to turn on Christian afterwards anyways. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, so me is like, strike while the iron is hot. [SPEAKER_01]: None of them in that tribe is going to vote Mike out. [SPEAKER_01]: Angelina is not going to vote him out. [SPEAKER_01]: Emily at the time wasn't going to vote him out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ozzy is definitely not going to vote him out. [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have his cameo yet. [SPEAKER_01]: And Stephanie, I don't know what Stephanie is doing. [SPEAKER_01]: She's just floating in the wind. [SPEAKER_01]: So you have the time part of it was revenge. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, part of it was emotional, but he was able to justify it.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm okay with the fallout. [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel confident saying it now because I know he didn't go to the next episode. [SPEAKER_01]: Right because at the time it was like yes, but he's in trouble and I'm like yes I know Emily's wishy washy, but I do feel like he did choose his friend which was Emily So there's a lot of Of show chatter about how close were the three how close were they friends Mike is upset that Christian didn't tell him he was having a baby I heard that Mike had a survivor watching party viewing party did not invite Christian [SPEAKER_01]: Um, to it, they keep saying their friends and I'm like, well, level of friendships.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I just, there's too much talk. [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: But it seems like he considers Emily his actual friend. [SPEAKER_01]: And he was not going to turn on her. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think ultimately, that's what pulls Emily back, which is when she spilled about the idol to everybody, she did go to him and confess.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because there is an actual, I think, friendship there, meanwhile, Christian [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Angelina's been saying that he was speaking poorly about them in the pre interviews. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just so messy, but I still think it was the right thing to do.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he's still here. [SPEAKER_01]: He did damage control with Aussie. [SPEAKER_01]: So now I'm doubly sure. [SPEAKER_01]: It was the right move. [SPEAKER_01]: And now he got the merch. [SPEAKER_01]: They're bigger targets now. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he's a big target. [SPEAKER_01]: But the thing about Survivor is like, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: You lose your attention span and I'll look over there.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's someone they'll look over there and series there. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: There's legacy targets. [SPEAKER_00]: There's other people that it's not just about this game that there is Who could sway the tides more than others because we know their game? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, we'll see what happens, but I'm just so glad that he survived. [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get to the main episode, but I think I want to ask, what are your thoughts, especially being a friend of Aubrey, of the whole gen of Eve and Aubrey thing? [SPEAKER_01]: What is happening there?

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, first. [SPEAKER_00]: as a TV viewer, phenomenal TV to have rivalries because I do think that we've gotten a little soft sometimes in New Era and I'm not saying let's cast full villains but I think it makes trickier and maybe that's part of it to help protect contestants because I think the hardest part of this show and why like I personally would never do it and I give Kudos to anybody who is on the show is the way that [SPEAKER_00]: the internet burrates them and speaks of them.

[SPEAKER_00]: And all this kind of stuff is a lot. [SPEAKER_00]: They're in a high pressure situation. [SPEAKER_00]: They're tired. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not eating. [SPEAKER_00]: They're away from their families. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I think when I mentioned like not knowing new things, well, people like Aubrey's a newish mom, fans don't realize it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's gone through life changes that are being depicted on screen. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that could give context to like, why is she emotional? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: She's ostracized feeling left out. [SPEAKER_00]: I left my job. [SPEAKER_00]: I left my family.

[SPEAKER_00]: I left my child like all that kind of stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: Like that'll get to you. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: But her and Genevieve is interesting because I think it's like a we see each other. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that like they're very similar-esque players. [SPEAKER_00]: I give Kudos because I do think Genevieve is playing different than last time, which is she is playing a social game.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because last time she's like, no new friends. [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_00]: I think she is making friends this time. [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's just clear that they can't work together and that they don't want to be together on this beach. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like Aubrey said it in the episode last night.

[SPEAKER_00]: She was like, I do respect Genevieve. [SPEAKER_00]: We just like, she doesn't want me on this beach. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she wants us together. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's just the nature of it all. [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's who knows what it will culminate in. [SPEAKER_00]: As a hybrid fan, of course, I'm rooting for one side of it, but I mean, it is like giving good drama as opposed to, again, we discussed it lightly.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure we'll probably talk about more coach giving nicknames. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad that Aubrey got the Billie Eilish boomerang because I think it injected some life. [SPEAKER_01]: I think I was like, I'll be looked like she didn't want to be here and it looked like she's just like, where can I go from here?

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on this tribe, nobody wants me. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that injected, you know, some new life into her and she's just like, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: I have a chance here. [SPEAKER_01]: We can do this. [SPEAKER_01]: And I know I've seen some comments about a 17 person merge. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.

[SPEAKER_01]: Merge. [SPEAKER_00]: I want them to do it. [SPEAKER_00]: It's in 50. [SPEAKER_00]: They started with 24 of them. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, who cares? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Australian survivor has like 88 contestants every season. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, just go with it. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.

[SPEAKER_01]: You read my mind. [SPEAKER_01]: I was literally about to say I have to go. [SPEAKER_00]: I will say before, though, I have not watched this new season. [SPEAKER_00]: There's too much on. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: I [SPEAKER_00]: I'd hurt. [SPEAKER_00]: So when we when we replace the host, I was not thrilled.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'd depraved ties. [SPEAKER_00]: I have heard. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: We merge. [SPEAKER_00]: Why do I know it's amazing? [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm getting a little like, do I need to watch this? [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know when to find the time. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is not the best of Australian survivor, but the last three episodes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Mind blown. [SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think season 50 can hit that level or you like, no, I think Australia still might be [SPEAKER_01]: not with the season with Australians of Iver. [SPEAKER_01]: I see the 58 think I'm enjoying more. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm in the style of your girl.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, yeah, it does have returning players. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the funny part, but it's not and you know. [SPEAKER_00]: start clothes around them and that's what I love the fact that Ricky's no no that place so the host yeah you can feel JP's presence you can feel his presence he's ever present I mean that wasn't the issue with that show but I Jegger so I don't want to guess in a whole Australian survivor chat it would be I'll tell you what you want the fan to show up on season 50 bring JLP on that would have been kind of iconic really [SPEAKER_01]: Jeff would never, would never.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they did have that word like meet up after they did right. [SPEAKER_00]: So like I don't now it's you know, my guess territory war one, but I think there would be something very cool to acknowledge yeah global presence because like in the hands of the fans all this other stuff like our power of US is what has made this a global show.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it would be meat, but unfortunately, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: We get Mr. [SPEAKER_00]: Beast. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't worry. [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to freeze. [SPEAKER_01]: We got Zach Brown. [SPEAKER_01]: One final thought on Zach Brown. [SPEAKER_01]: So I too was like, what is this?

[SPEAKER_01]: What's happening? [SPEAKER_01]: I know of him. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know his music. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not as touched as D was, but I read an article. [SPEAKER_01]: I think our name is Mad Dog. [SPEAKER_01]: I can remember that wrote the article. [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of got a different perspective about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like listen. [SPEAKER_01]: Just like we enjoy the show, celebrities enjoy shows like that. [SPEAKER_01]: Who was it that I just saw that met a landrea? [SPEAKER_01]: and was just like geek Zendaya. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, yeah, they're real fans too. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they're real fans too.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure this show has done a lot for Zach Brown. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm glad that he got to come here. [SPEAKER_01]: The problem was it did not need to be 20 minutes long. [SPEAKER_00]: Didn't need to see what one song. [SPEAKER_00]: When they played one song, I went, okay, when he said, do you want to hear another one?

[SPEAKER_00]: That's one my breaking point happened. [SPEAKER_00]: And then I spent the whole episode, [SPEAKER_00]: Sort of stressed like like I was like waiting for the jumpscare that we're gonna cut back to that beach and he would be there So just set us up in advance more who are these super fans what why not for the last You know year off we've had dropping in videos on social media of celebrity fans like pay them to get that out there So then we were more invested in this than just a random person and I think like [SPEAKER_00]: I'd say he's niche, but obviously he's massive, but there's like it's a different audience.

[SPEAKER_00]: So at least like for him, he showed face like, can he, you know, probably post about on social I didn't go looking for it, but I'm sure he was thrilled versus, yeah, no story Billy Isle. [SPEAKER_00]: I just think there's like so many fans there, like, yeah, I think maybe that's what if we just had reunion still, we would have more of that because you just kind of find out in passive ways now if somebody watches, yeah, some sort of show.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's I think that's the only thing. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think like, you know, what tribe was Deon at the time? [SPEAKER_01]: They really messed up because then it would have been full circle if D was the one that, you know, it was on the reward with him. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, then you would have had people want, well, but then it's like, you get D's like a super fan of this or you get coach who's just like gonna give you every sound bite you need to let, you know, this is the most important thing in the world.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know which one of you were producer you'd prefer. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's the question you ask for. [SPEAKER_00]: Producer guests. [SPEAKER_00]: There you go. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let us get into episode five and starting with the Vatu tribe aka pink maroon, whatever color you think it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ozzy is big man. [SPEAKER_01]: Ozzy is big man that he was left out the vote and they've come back and [SPEAKER_01]: Again, we've talked about how everyone came with their trauma and that's what's making 50 work. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I forgot to mention Savannah. [SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned that, um, you know, Rizzo and how he was like a good player and all of that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I haven't talked Survivor and it this thought has been in my mind that I'm not like a huge fan of Savannah, but I don't know when the few episodes that she was on, I appreciated her game. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, if survivor ever goes back to bringing back multiple players, oh my God, Savannah is going to be great.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think she'd be an excellent two-time player. [SPEAKER_00]: I think she is a good player. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think tying into like the future of this, too. [SPEAKER_00]: I think Rizzo had one story he came to the show with, and then had to kind of ride with it because I think he was trying to downplay him in Savannah's relationship.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because from the edit we saw, I would say like they are a trio. [SPEAKER_00]: But like I always thought I was like, [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Sophie. [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it just like that was whatever to set up for 50, but to me, they were always close. [SPEAKER_00]: I felt like it was, oh, I've made up a story.

[SPEAKER_00]: I now have to like go with this entire season, not that his number one was actually Sophie and therefore he betrayed her, which of course is the impetus for what will happen in episode five and the vengeance being sought on either side. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm glad you mentioned that because I was also like really Sophie she came afterwards so no so that's a good exit interview like what have enjoyed her though I will say on 50 I think she would have I think it was her over Savannah I do think Sophie would have had a better shot because.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, they didn't have a winner because they just like assumed there was a winner and then like they kind of figured it out, but I I think Sophie had Has that like staying power during gray and herself, but I mean, yeah, and that's all walks of who knows it is luck. [SPEAKER_01]: What tribe would she have been on?

[SPEAKER_01]: Was she a bit would she have been on the disaster tribe again, but her social game is really strong, and I heard that someone spilled in Ponderosa, so they knew [SPEAKER_01]: Before they came ahead of time because I was surprised that Savannah spilled that she was the winner I was like, yeah, but they knew ahead of time But going back to Vatu, there's not really much going on like we said they didn't tell us Emily's point of view But Stephanie has gone back to Aussie Stephanie's like I'm sticking by you To prove that I don't know if she was good casting she's not really floating with a wind she's not really standing on I don't know if it's because [SPEAKER_01]: luck of the draw of the tribe that she's on and she doesn't have much power of what to do, but she's just like anyone who have me will have me, but I do think like at this point, you do have a choice.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to continue sticking with Emily and Christian, you could do that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, Aussie is a threat. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's not forget. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, how do you do that? [SPEAKER_00]: He's now going to make it, and I was trying to remember. [SPEAKER_00]: and maybe you recall.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's made the jury every single time he's played. [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's never gone out early, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm trying to think he's done five times. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's the one thing is I remember there was like one season with redemption. [SPEAKER_00]: And so I can't remember.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so maybe he like did go early, but sucker. [SPEAKER_00]: But either way, he has a very good stick around track record for whatever it may be. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and that season you're talking about when you know if I just rewatched it, he made it to fourth. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so like I'm going to come back and we've got like he did almost win once like Aussie, you know, yeah, you can't you can't you set my king baby.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like an older all through and through thank you very much, yes, but yeah, like. [SPEAKER_00]: He is a threat. [SPEAKER_00]: I still, I, it still blows my mind that that tribe gets to get swapped, shuffled up and ends up with one person clearly that you could easily get rid of afterwards and Stephanie and they still didn't do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm very intrigued by that. [SPEAKER_01]: That's, and that's what we mean by it's just a shuffle game when it comes to survivor just like, okay, there's a chance to do this is a chance to do that, but they could have done that with Angelina, which we're going to talk about, but I think because they've used Stephanie as right now to me a goat and and for anyone that's new to this goat is not a good thing here, and so fine.

[SPEAKER_01]: for no unfortunately, and they're just using her as a number. [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's why she has stuck around. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to the sila tribe, the orange tribe. [SPEAKER_01]: There's Jonathan Charlie, Camilla, and Dee, who fancy themselves a foresum or so they think Charlie is still obsessed with [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not calling him Rizgott with Rizgott, so he's still thinking about him saying that he would have, he didn't vote for his number one and I don't know why I get it.

[SPEAKER_01]: What Maria did was terrible, honestly, I just, I would never speak to her again if I were him, but it's a new game, it's a new situation, you can still be mad about it, but don't show it. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know the full game, I mean, yeah, it was number one, maybe she did something.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad because I know I did see briefly in a Charlie express that he had other reasons. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they are. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think that's what I saw on the headline. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that his whole story is just down to like the trauma of him with Maria.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then they give him like the crazy zoom and everything. [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's very well done. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it just comes off that like pure vet like had like almost like no other thought in his mind except for that. [SPEAKER_00]: And like no other game besides like Garrett and Rizzo.

[SPEAKER_01]: Even if it was the edit, you can't edit the fact that he woke him up in the dead of the night or the morning to ask him, who else did you tell him about the billionish? [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, wait, we could have wait till the sun came up. [SPEAKER_01]: We had to ask him, but I was listening to Rob has a podcast and he recalled a season.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how did he retain [SPEAKER_01]: all this information. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm so bad at it. [SPEAKER_00]: I used to be great, but now especially now with New Arrow, if you don't give me a name of a theme, yeah, I'm not going to remember it. [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry to most of them.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: So he was saying how Charlie said that the best conversations are had before everyone wakes up or something like that. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, well, this is not an important conversation. [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I argue that this conversation is what put the nail in his coffin.

[SPEAKER_01]: because it suddenly made Rizzo like why is he asking me this and then he susses him out and all of a sudden he doesn't trust him. [SPEAKER_01]: So now Jonathan doesn't trust Rizzo either and D is like you're not going to tell me what to do. [SPEAKER_01]: I like Rizzo and she goes and shares and he shares about the Billie Eilish idol.

[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think about this too coming together? [SPEAKER_00]: I like it. [SPEAKER_00]: I support this. [SPEAKER_00]: It was fun to see. [SPEAKER_00]: I think it makes sense for there like there two energies and also the new era of it because I just feel like Jonathan's just like there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it just doesn't seem and I don't know like what he's really like again, we're just not seeing much like it doesn't seem fun. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Rizzo was fun. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he isn't. [SPEAKER_00]: I think like he's a bit of a risk God. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he just has an energy that people are drawn to and that initially that's probably a bit off-putting.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see how much. [SPEAKER_00]: They settled and they're like, oh, you know what? [SPEAKER_00]: I like this kid. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I like him. [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_01]: You like it takes a while You know how we need to tell you you put something you have to let it simmer. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then let it settle and once it settles like Rizzo is the king of Turning things around like he's not a first impression guy We're giving him a little bit and he'll become your guy Jonathan, I don't understand why he was cast and the only thing I can think about is just because this man is a physical like beast [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's it right in a way is so unfair, but that's all or maybe someone kept okay, I don't want to diminish maybe he has a personality that we don't know about but I don't know why he's here.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can't justify like he's not controversial. [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have like so much history with anyone that was here that I recall. [SPEAKER_01]: Did he get voted on or did he lose five I literally he wasn't final tribal I think he was he no it was Marianne he wasn't in Oh, he wasn't my memories now.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just watched this a few days Marian Mike [SPEAKER_01]: And the young guy, not Alex or something. [SPEAKER_01]: He's the blonde tall surfer dude guy. [SPEAKER_01]: So that means Jonathan was like fourth. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So do you lose five? [SPEAKER_00]: I can't, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I mean. [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's kind of just like, I know he was there. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: To me, he had like no larger impact than I'm just like, oh, yeah, he was very good at challenges. [SPEAKER_00]: But like if I were listening names of people in the new era, [SPEAKER_00]: before survivor 50.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just like I probably wouldn't remember. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I would because there's not, I don't remember that many from you are. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just again, it's a blur. [SPEAKER_00]: You need to name the seasons. [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to cast themes, but we do need something to remember them because they just become a stack of seasons and vaguely.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can maybe name like who won, but not like the whole group anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: Or at least I can't. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's a mold. [SPEAKER_01]: No, it used to be the islands, but now it's all Fiji, so exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing else to separate in your from that. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm going to take a quick break, now I'll be right back.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking solos in the fact because Siri, I haven't heard anything at this point from her. [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm taking solos in the fact that on a red carpet, I heard Tiffany say that watching Siri play was amazing. [SPEAKER_01]: The only way she would know that is if they were playing together and they made merch.

[SPEAKER_01]: So at this time, I didn't know it was merch, so I'm just like, okay, Siri is going to be fine for a little bit and so is Tiffany. [SPEAKER_01]: So until I see any separation, I'm good. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel confident that they're going to be in for a couple of episodes. [SPEAKER_00]: I like your thinking cap there.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was nice to see Seri being brought in on this too. [SPEAKER_00]: She wasn't left. [SPEAKER_00]: I would all know, especially because she is close with Rick, who was not part of this plan. [SPEAKER_00]: And I do have to say, um, one of the heroes of the season is Seri's last check. [SPEAKER_00]: Whoever did her lashes did a fantastic job.

[SPEAKER_00]: She looks great. [SPEAKER_00]: She also looks like she is eyeliner. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, Seri looks glam. [SPEAKER_00]: And I would say that's last season. [SPEAKER_01]: Her and Angelina, that's insane. [SPEAKER_00]: Telly and Lash is to the... Angelina's are not a little too much. [SPEAKER_00]: I think series are better.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think she works, but they're just not as good. [SPEAKER_00]: No disrespect. [SPEAKER_01]: Just the thought of having lashes to the beach. [SPEAKER_01]: I just I wouldn't risk it because he could fall out and then I look crazy with half on not on but it's working out for Siri so far, but yes, [SPEAKER_01]: Charlie is a self-reclamed, huge Taylor Swift fan, and Rizzo is like, in your honor, I am going to have Operation Bad Blood, and he wants to get Charlie out.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was good. [SPEAKER_01]: So he's just like, Siri, I mean, they're under the radar, and he gets all these people one by one. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm watching it, I'm like, what is this guy doing? [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's telling everyone about the idol, I'm like, at this point, who doesn't know about the idol?

[SPEAKER_00]: Who doesn't know at this point? [SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe, but I feel like Jonathan must know because I feel like Charlie probably told him right I don't think he did I don't know because that was what got him to realize That he knew and all well if he did, why wouldn't they show it to us Yeah, sure they show us him telling him so I don't know and the thing is like Charlie had all this whole plan I want to get resolved but he wasn't really doing anything.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like when you talk about a plan [SPEAKER_01]: we are not putting into effect and Rizzo is a doer. [SPEAKER_01]: Rizzo is like, I'm getting your ass out and I'm doing 1, 2, 3 and he did it immediately. [SPEAKER_01]: Not waiting for the right time. [SPEAKER_01]: Let me stress this up.

[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody has time for that. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go and that's the advantage of new era. [SPEAKER_01]: Charlie is new era, but Rizzo is new, new, new. [SPEAKER_01]: two weeks ago era. [SPEAKER_00]: We'd around for, you know, and as soon that because we were on a starting tribe together, and we have four that we're just going to go with the majority.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's not that's definitely like what is not new era is not a classic stick with your old tribe. [SPEAKER_00]: That's old school is to stick with your four go with it. [SPEAKER_00]: New, new survivor is we got new tribes were started, but it's basically let's start over. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like pivot.

[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to friends. [SPEAKER_01]: On the blue tribe, the Kalo Kalo tribe. [SPEAKER_01]: This tribe, we have Joe, we have Coach, we have Kobe on the same tribe. [SPEAKER_01]: Honor and journey training tribe. [SPEAKER_01]: All the way. [SPEAKER_01]: And there's like, as Mel was saying, a whole scene of coach, you know, nighting Joe, and I can't believe these people had a straight face, went along with it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But Coach tells Joe that he's his number one. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_01]: I call them coach. [SPEAKER_01]: He's tied Walker. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: You're the type. [SPEAKER_00]: That's the only one I do remember. [SPEAKER_00]: He gave himself the concise one and then gave both other guys.

[SPEAKER_00]: One guess ever. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like I don't like coaches gameplay coaches never been my kind of guy It's like the one rule in Survivor and they say this all the time when you go to tribal own what you're doing It's okay if you're not a quote unquote good guy people who are obsessed with seeming or looking like a good guy Just be a good guy and people would know you don't need to tell us all of that so that whole Seeing with Rick Devons and Joe [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feel vindicated because I had a listener message me asking about Joe and I was like I don't know why he was cast I think it's too soon and Joe is just not my kind of player like you cannot come on here on survivor and say you can't lie you can't that's what the whole game is about and I was with Rick is like you're stifling people like let them do what they want to do and he was so intense and I get it he was played but.

[SPEAKER_01]: that happened and I think Savannah was saying in exit interviews that it was way worse than we actually saw so I don't know how much worse it could have been but that's what happened so to have them all here talking about they're gonna be the best and never gonna lie to each other it's like stop it [SPEAKER_00]: boring kind of have to.

[SPEAKER_00]: Joe is as old school of a new school player could be and I maybe that's like his niche because I do know plenty of people really like him. [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel bad. [SPEAKER_00]: And I did it this time. [SPEAKER_00]: But like I do think that he at this point much like Charlie seems traumatized by his experience.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think bringing him in with the two people also that were the ones or at least one of them was sort of the catalyst of [SPEAKER_00]: his drama is probably a lot to sink into like I'm sure when Kyle went there's probably a little bit of like at least I don't like see him anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to encounter this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that helps him feel like a fresh game is coming. [SPEAKER_00]: But yes, he's not the most thrilling, you know, what did a coach said like we're a bunch of strong guys. [SPEAKER_00]: The guy who nearly drowned and see from a cramp in his leg. [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks a strong guys.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not the divers that we're a startling in the sea. [SPEAKER_00]: So they do, you know, I enjoy the quirkiness of Coach at times. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I get his importance. [SPEAKER_00]: He is, you know, he's made for TV. [SPEAKER_00]: He's a character. [SPEAKER_00]: He's doing what he's meant to coach it up for.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's sometimes just not knowing yet. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, who is, is this really coacher? [SPEAKER_00]: Is it a character? [SPEAKER_00]: Because I know, he'll say it's a character, but like, is it? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't really know. [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, if I press March Coach sometimes, I feel like, are you kidding me, is my favorite?

[SPEAKER_00]: So, I... [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know again the beauty of this game. [SPEAKER_00]: There's someone for everyone exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing like just because someone you know I try to like again, it's very hard to separate when you have a friend who plays the game Versus like other stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes it can be tricky when I see like my friends Don't like how my friend plays or they're not their favorite player. [SPEAKER_00]: They were rude. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they they wanted Michelle to win. [SPEAKER_00]: They think whatever [SPEAKER_00]: it's tricky, but I have to remember like they're watching the show, they have different people they root for like different styles of game they like, and that's just how we all like differ, you know, and that's how I put it out there and it can be tricky, but [SPEAKER_01]: find actually if coaches have been playing a character I just if you do stuff on it like even that's earlier that thing that happened with Ozzy and being so upset that oh you're not going to in what world is it noble that if he did all the work and you were like I'm going to take the key it's a game rightfully you can do that just say like I was going to take the key but don't say I'm not a

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, finally on the color tribe, Aubrey goes to coach because she's like, I need a person. [SPEAKER_01]: I need to find someone who I'm going to work with on here and she goes to coach and coach is like, yes, I'm going to work with you and now coach has pledged allegiance to three people.

[SPEAKER_01]: So now he's pledged to Colby, he's pledged to Joe who is allegedly his number one. [SPEAKER_01]: Are you surprised that Joe is his number one and not Colby? [SPEAKER_00]: Um a little bit because but I guess like they do have history because they've played together, so maybe they're still a little bit of like [SPEAKER_00]: back story there that we don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was pretty much like knowing popularity or knowing maybe that like cool be can be a little saviour at the game than Joe is because like the thing about cool be was that cool be was always like the honor integrity guy. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, cool be goes on here as versus villains.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's a season that I need to rewatch. [SPEAKER_00]: I had a bad taste of my mouth going into here as versus villains because I had the seasons boiled for me. [SPEAKER_00]: So to that point when I watch I remember being like [SPEAKER_00]: But I remember that was like Colby was a villain because I remember when they went to that reward and they fought over the idol and that kind of stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that there is a little bit more to what Colby could do if he puts his mind to it. [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know if he ever really will because I do think he still has like perception of the public in his mind and that kind of thing. [SPEAKER_00]: And then now this pressure of being coaches.

[SPEAKER_00]: on her integrity crew. [SPEAKER_00]: But it does seem like people all preseason when Mike Bloom did that friend or foe. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I believe every person said friend for coach or at least the majority. [SPEAKER_00]: And we also forget she's because she's not present. [SPEAKER_00]: But coach also has Chrissy, which I don't know what, you know, she doesn't have a nickname that we see right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did see on Instagram that coach gave Aubrey and a nickname. [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, it's the removal of Chrissy because did we see her at all? [SPEAKER_00]: No, this episode actually now the person I don't think she was present whatsoever, I think. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she was at the reward last time.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's very invisible this season. [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's a choice to do that. [SPEAKER_01]: Before we go to the community challenge, I just wanted to say that scene when they were niting each other, Joe, Coach, Colby. [SPEAKER_01]: For a second, I was like, you know what?

[SPEAKER_01]: I might prefer watching Zach Brown at this moment. [SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know, give her a take. [SPEAKER_01]: You know? [SPEAKER_01]: It was a lot more song. [SPEAKER_01]: That was too long, too. [SPEAKER_00]: It was very long. [SPEAKER_00]: It was very long. [SPEAKER_00]: People being knighted when we could be watching something else.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's because there was a 30-minute story behind each nickname of everything, like just coaches, T, his nickname. [SPEAKER_00]: I, I give coach a nickname. [SPEAKER_00]: T, L, D, R, too long didn't read. [SPEAKER_00]: He is very long-winded. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, you know, for a second, I don't know what I was rewatching and my brain glitched and I was thinking I was confusing, coach with What's his name?

[SPEAKER_01]: I just blank too. [SPEAKER_01]: There's another player who kind of looks like him. [SPEAKER_01]: T, I know who you're thinking. [SPEAKER_01]: Were you thinking of Troy's in? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: He's empty and I'm saying the hair. [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking of a choice at two nights. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you watch the old episodes and you're like, wait. [SPEAKER_01]: Is it coach and he's just younger? [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not him. [SPEAKER_01]: He has that dragon slayer is not a choice. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, but they have the same.

[SPEAKER_00]: They are the same archetype. [SPEAKER_00]: And then remember that the season that the rest choice and also had Tarzan. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a lot. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for remembering. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's like a should be proud of this or sad about myself a little bit of both you should you should be proud.

[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you and proud. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: So Jeff tells him that only one tribe gets to win this time and two tribes are going to tribal and it is a double elimination. [SPEAKER_01]: vote out. [SPEAKER_01]: We learned that Kobe injured himself and I'm like, where is this from?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because when anyone who doesn't know also, when Kyle left from an injury, they didn't show it. [SPEAKER_01]: I guess, I don't know, to protect Kobe. [SPEAKER_01]: But Kyle actually made it to the top. [SPEAKER_01]: He went back down to help Kobe come up and that was when the whole thing happened.

[SPEAKER_01]: But we don't know when coach injured himself. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that would have been a good story to tell. [SPEAKER_01]: But what do I know? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd be intrigued, like because he hurt his foot to see it like me be like a really bad planter fashion. [SPEAKER_00]: I just like, I don't know, again, if it came up a little sooner that like I've been I've been I've been nursing this, like I don't know why it didn't feel important enough to kind of bring up both of them.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So they start the challenge. [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly guys, Jonathan is such a physical beast. [SPEAKER_01]: I just, was anybody standing a chance is this gonna happen, but you know, I want to get Kudos to Ozzy. [SPEAKER_01]: Because Ozzy is, you know, a little older than Jonathan and he is keeping up and he's doing all the things, getting all the fish.

[SPEAKER_01]: So the one thing his legacy is going to be, I don't know if he'll ever win survivor, but his legacy will always be like, he is a challenge beast, you know, there. [SPEAKER_01]: All I am thinking at this point is that I need Vatu to win because I need Christian to be here. [SPEAKER_01]: This is all I'm thinking.

[SPEAKER_01]: The whole time. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, what were you thinking, Dave? [SPEAKER_01]: Now we're going to happen disaster tribe. [SPEAKER_01]: It's they're just going to, there's so behind that it didn't happen. [SPEAKER_01]: Kahlo wins and Vatu and Silla, I headed to tribal. [SPEAKER_01]: Before they had to tribal, Rizou does his final touch and grabs Camilla.

[SPEAKER_01]: Camilla is underrated. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good thing for her. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a good thing that Kyle is not there anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: Agreed. [SPEAKER_00]: This is big. [SPEAKER_00]: It was a big thing for her. [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a double edged shirt because you never want to see anybody go out that way.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, at all. [SPEAKER_00]: We got vote out even better because that's helps. [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it helped to separate them all a bit to give that season 48. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a chance. [SPEAKER_00]: I think they've worked different for you. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it completely lowers her threat level because they're just going to see her together.

[SPEAKER_01]: And also, she makes any moves and wins thinking like, oh, it's with Kyle. [SPEAKER_01]: She can have it and own it on. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're not as worried that she has someone to link up with at the merge. [SPEAKER_00]: Just nobody thinks that she's tight with Joe, which I don't think they are.

[SPEAKER_00]: So she is very much a free agent able to be scooped up with by any alliance. [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm. [SPEAKER_01]: So, um, Risa tells Camilla about the Billie Eilish idol, and she seconds Christian who bikki in the acting skills, and is like, what? [SPEAKER_01]: Because she already knew, um, no, she didn't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: This was the first time I'm sorry, Charlie. [SPEAKER_01]: Charlie brings up to her. [SPEAKER_01]: That's her good acting. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: That's her good acting. [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_01]: So, Risa tells her about the idol. [SPEAKER_01]: And then Camilla clocked like, you know, he keeps saying [SPEAKER_01]: That he, what did he say?

[SPEAKER_01]: They hadn't told anyone. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that Kyle was his number one. [SPEAKER_01]: That Kyle said that he should take care of Camilla. [SPEAKER_01]: Is this true? [SPEAKER_01]: I do we think this is true. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't. [SPEAKER_00]: So he actually, so I was going to tell him I don't think so.

[SPEAKER_00]: But Kyle seemed from his exit interviews. [SPEAKER_00]: to be very well-engrained with that group and that and that tribe. [SPEAKER_00]: And he kept saying, like, I had deals with this person, that one, he said, I even had some of the Auburn Angelina, because like, they were on the outs, clearly.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So I wouldn't say it's impossible. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he necessarily said, you know, like, as parting words, work, you know, work with Camille. [SPEAKER_00]: But I think like it's possible that he was tight with Kyle. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm more inclined to believe that Kyle is like, [SPEAKER_01]: Take care of Camilla or work with her and then he's a nice guy.

[SPEAKER_01]: I do Kyle being his number one because Kyle had his three other people that he was working with. [SPEAKER_01]: So, um, so Charlie decides that he needs to tell Camilla about it and then that's when Camilla does the acting and she's like she's never heard about the idol and she says that she feels like he was too slow.

[SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about this before, but I'm not going to lie. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even think that was a thing until she said it. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, she was like, oh, you should have come to me sooner. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm thinking like, wow, it seems so little like for give him and keep moving, but it really was a big thing to her.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, no, I don't want to work with you on that level. [SPEAKER_01]: What did you think about that? [SPEAKER_00]: I think it makes sense in this new faster game, because you've obviously had, they haven't gone to tribal. [SPEAKER_00]: So he's been able to sit on the secret for several days.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and if you have something like that, and you have somebody that is like your trusted ally, like somebody that really you do want to ride with you and tell them said, you can't keep stuff for too too long, and I think that is a little bit to his detriment and like you said, too. [SPEAKER_00]: you can't wait around anymore and it just sounds like they were posting on this idea of like oh good there's four of us so we'll just go for yeah we'll go for Rick or Surrey which obviously you know pivots a bit from there but oh we'll just take the easier [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's nothing to do on the island except just strategize and if you think things are so straightforward like, oh, we're just going to vote this one person never get comfortable.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's another important rule on survivor like always be scheming is how to be doing and I think there's a lot we aren't getting because I have to assume that there's a lot of pre-gaming for 50 because there were people who [SPEAKER_00]: were like on the list for so like when there was a rumor castles there are people who have been there from like day one and then there are others who showed up like super late so i have to imagine that they were conversations especially those who like knew they've been locked in for forever yeah that like stuff was going on so i wonder if there was like any underlying of like [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we all talked before.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like we're probably cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry about it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but still, again, things change fast. [SPEAKER_01]: Like just exactly you can't you can't reach them. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like, you know, you get a relationship. [SPEAKER_01]: Keep dating them. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't just stop.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just get exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't have one relation. [SPEAKER_01]: So, um, over and back to Christian wants to vote Angelina out. [SPEAKER_01]: And the whole David's versus Goliath 3 to me, something that became like a nothing burger, no one was like, oh, what we're going to seek revenge or whatever, I just [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's editing.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he really didn't mean anything to them, but that's the story that we were fed. [SPEAKER_01]: And Aussie, he meditated, he's not as mad. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's that he really did, or he's like, oh God, I'm on TV, it's more vicious now. [SPEAKER_01]: I need to do damage control, but I'll give him credit.

[SPEAKER_01]: That, you know, he looked inward and was trying to be better. [SPEAKER_01]: But then he tells Aussie that he, I mean, he tells Christian that he wants his shot in the dark. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't like that. [SPEAKER_00]: Also, it's just so funny because the shot in the dark is just like comes up like occasionally conversation, but none of us like as viewers even thought it was like still in the face.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought I was like, oh, thank God, we got rid of that, dumb one. [SPEAKER_00]: And then it's still lingering here. [SPEAKER_00]: And like I cannot imagine that any single player on the season will use shot in the dark. [SPEAKER_00]: That's like my, because I just feel that, [SPEAKER_00]: your vote matters so much.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for like a chance. [SPEAKER_00]: And also, I don't know what the odds are this season, because since it hasn't been played, we don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: There were so many more players. [SPEAKER_00]: So did it impact the number odds? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm not sure. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's, it's just a little bit bigger. [SPEAKER_00]: The advice that I'm just not super keen on. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it paid off like one time, one time. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: They should have brought him back. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember his name, Abel. [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they should have brought him back. [SPEAKER_00]: Caleb. [SPEAKER_01]: Caleb. [UNKNOWN]: Caleb. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's thing is it's just that some of the choices they made were interesting and that they had nine seasons to choose from of new era and they basically chose from those three or four and I think that was the issue is that basically you could have easily one person per season even do that a lot of missed opportunity, but like you said, you know, we're not the experts of casting it's panning out well, but I also think it could have super backfired for all you know, but the David and Glything I think [SPEAKER_00]: I think they made the right move and also getting rid of Mike last week because if they got rid of Angelina and kept Mike, yeah, this split becomes a lot more detrimental and I think like I think that if Angelina goes last week, I think Christian does go this week because I think Mike carousel the votes to just be like, he turned on one of us and we were all friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: They were, you know, all that stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it was the right move in hindsight, even if people were a little upset about it. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel back, Angelina got like nothing sauce this season. [SPEAKER_01]: She's kind of the hair. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say the same thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't even know if felt like she was ready to go. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was like, it honestly kind of felt like, the game-wise you needed to get rid of other people first. [SPEAKER_00]: But I was kind of like, I would have, like, it felt like we could have put out a mercy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for a couple of votes ago. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad. [SPEAKER_00]: I think she's like a very fun iconic player, but I just think that the luck that she had in her draw overall was, [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it seemed like it could turn around because they all got grouped together, but it's the worst thing you could do is to have you all together because everyone's looking at you.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like she's in a different... [SPEAKER_01]: face of her life and it's just she's not as intense as she was because even Mike being voted out. [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't even get a confession like, oh my god, how could Christian do that to me? [SPEAKER_00]: That's just right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Mike's out. [SPEAKER_01]: Then what looks like what's your next move? [SPEAKER_01]: Are you gonna rally people together? [SPEAKER_01]: Are you gonna do stuff like even when Emily came to her the last time? [SPEAKER_01]: She was just really me. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is the realest I've gotten.

[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: And then that's it. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you seem more salute to her. [SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe she thought like, I'm just on borrowed time at this point or something. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Christian does give Aussie the shot in the dark.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he called him a, we don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: It was blanked out. [SPEAKER_01]: So either. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she probably had Holly Prissy pants or something like that, too. [SPEAKER_00]: Something he did. [SPEAKER_00]: He said, I can't believe you. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'll tell you.

[SPEAKER_00]: That is a better nickname than the tide walker. [SPEAKER_00]: And the other two, we cannot remember. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I feel bad. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I should have written that down. [SPEAKER_00]: But I was like, oh, I'll remember. [SPEAKER_00]: When I watched that, I was like, I will remember these names for a later.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll watch the choice. [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot tell you. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sorry for not remembering coach. [SPEAKER_00]: But I do. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, tag walker is memorable. [SPEAKER_01]: detergent, white walker, put it together. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yes, he did call him for, uh, a press, what if was it again, a pressy, was it a pressy pants?

[SPEAKER_01]: Presumants, yes, when he was whining about it, but then when he asked him for the shot in the dark, they'd blank it out. [SPEAKER_01]: He either called him in a shithead or a dickhead. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know which it was. [SPEAKER_01]: At least he on censored cuts of survivor. [SPEAKER_01]: It just like the way Bravo does it.

[SPEAKER_01]: You have paramount plus guys use it. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I canceled my video. [SPEAKER_00]: And we would get paramount plus for curse words. [SPEAKER_00]: Mark our words. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just grateful that Emily sticking with him at this point because we didn't know if that was going to go because Aussie did pull her a side.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, I want to work with you. [SPEAKER_01]: I want to do this and I'm like, oh, God, what is going to happen? [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe we're not getting her confessional so that we don't have the cards revealed, I guess. [SPEAKER_00]: But I do want to hear more from her because I think that she's been playing [SPEAKER_00]: I'll say an interesting game because that's one way to put it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did like, it's a reckless game. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a wreck. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is a better way to put it. [SPEAKER_00]: It is a reckless game. [SPEAKER_00]: Like her blabbing Aubrey's idol. [SPEAKER_00]: As Aubrey's brand, I'm like, [SPEAKER_00]: What is happening? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like so mad, but I'm like this is craziness and then so she tells her ready and then immediately goes back to be like I'm so sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: I told everybody and Chris is using it like she's bringing the the entertainment that we need with her reckless game Yeah, she is but she's like I'm that I don't have the fortitude to go through this stress It's too much stress when they were trying to vote Mike out and like don't tell anything And she says Aussie come here.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like what are you doing? [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, what is happening right now? [SPEAKER_01]: But I do feel confident that immediately Ozzie has that conversation where she goes straight to Christian and tells him. [SPEAKER_01]: So then I'm like, OK, it's very clear now. [SPEAKER_00]: We know some, yeah, it's just more and less.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we just, just that we want more professionals from women. [SPEAKER_00]: And we are trying to figure out ways to squeeze the men care. [SPEAKER_00]: That's it. [SPEAKER_00]: We just want their conventional counts up. [SPEAKER_01]: So over on the other side, three says that she's old school.

[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't know what it is, but it's something about Rizzo that she likes and she actually spills and tells him that she has an extra vote. [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I, gay-wise, maybe it's a great move. [SPEAKER_01]: All I know is when I heard that on my TV, I'm like, no, don't jump in! [SPEAKER_00]: But I, again, I think if any, if anyone player were to take a hit to piece fans, it would be risen.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: But he wants to win. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he really thought, like, here's the thing is that they are numbers, why is it wherever in this spot? [SPEAKER_00]: There is. [SPEAKER_00]: a very smart move to make of like it's easy to get rid of story. [SPEAKER_00]: She's on the best to ever play.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like we should take the shot. [SPEAKER_00]: But instead it's we respect Siri. [SPEAKER_00]: We want to play with Siri keep her in the game, which is all her power and everything. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm thrilled because I don't want her going out early. [SPEAKER_00]: But I am also aware in the back of my mind is like, [SPEAKER_00]: if somebody did vote her out or make the plans to get rid of her like you do have to like if you were good at this game you do have to go for the best that's ever played like come up [SPEAKER_01]: But it depends on how long you want to keep a meat shield with around because she's not good at challenges.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that also helps to lower her threat level. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's say Jonathan had the skill of Siri. [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, we're never getting him out. [SPEAKER_01]: I basically an Aussie. [SPEAKER_01]: Let me say that. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're just like, we're never going to get them out because they're going to win when it's not individually immunity, we're never going to get them out.

[SPEAKER_01]: But with Siri, [SPEAKER_01]: You can 85% 90 guarantee that she's not going to win so we could just have her there and then if it's me and three they're going to pull her out like I'm not as threatening as she is so what's funny? [SPEAKER_00]: I were called on Australia versus the world but she was actually kind of decent up the challenges.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, is she? [SPEAKER_00]: I've actually held her own pretty well [SPEAKER_00]: Mmm, I don't recall. [SPEAKER_00]: I forgot me like, like, not that she's coming out, you know, winning the all-time women's record by any means, but like, for someone who's now, how old is she's in her 50s?

[SPEAKER_00]: She's in her 50s. [SPEAKER_00]: So just like somebody a bit older, um, you know, she doesn't typically do all those things. [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't remember that being a thing on Ostron. [SPEAKER_00]: So I would be like, oh, there's Sari, we're losing the challenge because Sari fell off the balance, [SPEAKER_00]: So like, you know, I felt like she did better in that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think she's got it in her. [SPEAKER_00]: I think just that's that you know what it is. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Austro-Ansfibre diversifies their challenges. [SPEAKER_00]: And American survivor is jump swim. [SPEAKER_00]: Retrieve puzzle pieces do a puzzle. [SPEAKER_00]: So like, and if you're not good at it, if you're not doing those right the first time, like, you're not going to improve.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's 55, by the way. [SPEAKER_01]: So, Lover. [SPEAKER_01]: Result decides to take the route of saying that so if I for 50 is about cementing his legacy I'm like dude you're in your second like okay, and then he won't shut up about how well his play I'm looking at this guy like what are you doing like is this the right move, but clearly It is what do I know, but he's got some people how he sat on his eye at all What he did out there and how you such a good player and Jeff is like man, do you want to come to 50 and I'm like [SPEAKER_01]: This is intentional, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: This is not just verbal diarrhea. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think? [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's helpful because and when we like you don't want them to think that you were just like a character and put there. [SPEAKER_00]: But you also don't need to reveal that, I don't know, but I think part of it is if he came solo, you can do whatever you want, but the fact is that even through these conversations found out like Savannah blabbed a lot so even if you didn't want to say things too much came out, yeah, and I think you almost had to own up to whatever you maybe didn't want it because.

[SPEAKER_00]: There was like I was shocked that she told everybody like it's one thing really. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I won the season. [SPEAKER_00]: I worked with Rizzo We had another like that stuff to then tell everybody like yep because also I'm thinking long-term, right? [SPEAKER_00]: You're two season 49s in this game [SPEAKER_00]: goal is we will link up and probably work together.

[SPEAKER_00]: We work while together. [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you tell everybody, like, one of the biggest cards that you could play, which is like, he's going to bluff that idol all the time, and like, but to reveal all that stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: I think she was trying to bond to, but just gave out TMI, and then she's out of the game, and then it doesn't matter.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I think there could have been something smarter about what you share and what you keep closer to your chest. [SPEAKER_01]: And this is where I'm thinking like they have to have in conversations pre-game that she's like, I have nothing to lose, I might as well just say it, that because they already knew.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because if there's a conversation about her winning, they have to be conversations about her game and those things I think were probably out. [SPEAKER_01]: And also, if there is pre-game in, I don't see Rizzo keeping it to himself that he sat on a nightle. [SPEAKER_00]: No, because he's so funny about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's like, not to say that's all it did because he did it because he did it because he was a good player. [SPEAKER_00]: But that was like his claim to fame. [SPEAKER_00]: He's just like, all right, P. Sure, all right, P. Is that an interesting fire? [SPEAKER_00]: Because it wouldn't have been amazing if they all three made it because then I think it would have been a very intriguing final tribal to have an alliance of three set there.

[SPEAKER_00]: You have to sort of like, um, [SPEAKER_01]: I think if Rizzo made to the final he wins, just because of that idle move, funny enough. [SPEAKER_00]: We're saying, I think I still feel like if Rizzo and Savannah are there together, I think they divide a little bit, and I think Sophie just eats it up.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's actually just like a very close vote. [SPEAKER_00]: I could say going either way though, and I think Anna wins though, he's there. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought so if he was going to be a zero vote, but even I was believing she was very good at the final tribal cancel, so yeah, she had a very good social game he's a good job.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope we see her on the show again in the future. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she didn't get 50 but [SPEAKER_00]: maybe. [SPEAKER_00]: I think it shows the power that like, I know we stopped doing returny seasons. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that our issue is that and what we gripped a bit about for 50 besides not casting enough of like the new era was that we are seeing a lot of people who have played many at times.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that if you can continue doing returnies, but not people have overstayed their welcome and it is like, the want, you know, the one-offs and that kind of thing. [SPEAKER_00]: I've always felt, and I know this is going to maybe be kind of controversial that in a way.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's more than other people got robbed of getting to play them all the time. [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of thought, [SPEAKER_00]: That this would be sort of the turning point of like that new error now owns like this is kind of a Fair while to these people we've seen before and that way going forward like We're taking from a new batch.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they'll do that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I go back and forth on it But I just think it wouldn't surprise me if we hit that point of like Clean cut we're starting over [SPEAKER_00]: This is where baby. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they'll ever do that. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what the challenge is going through to the show.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a bigger problem, I think. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we survivor like it would be tough, but like you can be much older on survivor and just figure out your niche versus like on the challenge, like. [SPEAKER_00]: At a certain point, you can't, you know, bungee jump off a building and do a slide puzzle at the same time or whatever.

[SPEAKER_00]: That actually seems feasible for an older person to take that back. [SPEAKER_00]: But whatever they're doing is not as physically easily to continue on doing. [SPEAKER_01]: But we have tier levels of vets. [SPEAKER_01]: We're not because you don't when you see a vets for the challenge you're thinking of the CTs, the bananas that are in like in their 40s, but we have lower tiers that they're still younger that are in their 30s or 20s and they just stopped calling them to come back and it's like, what are you guys there they're in a real crisis.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: and they're not investing in the new bees to make them fed. [SPEAKER_01]: They're just every season. [SPEAKER_01]: We get a new face in every seat like the cast for this season is terrible as far as I'm concerned, but I digress. [SPEAKER_01]: As if we haven't suffered enough last week, or whatever week it was, Jeff was wrapping.

[SPEAKER_01]: We go to a final tribal and Jeff decides, you know what? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm an America's Got Talent. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to show you that I can do impressions. [SPEAKER_01]: And these side student impressions, not one, not two, [SPEAKER_01]: I gotta say he wasn't bad. [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't, that's the worst part of this is to say, I think that Jeff Probes rapper, not good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know when the last time he listened to Rap was based on the flow that he had, but his impressions were good. [SPEAKER_00]: But it wasn't, it just came out, it wasn't like somebody didn't, like he just threw it in and just jumped into a conversation as Jonathan. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he was planning on doing it.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was dying for, he was like, oh, holding it in for me. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get it out, but that's what goes first. [SPEAKER_01]: Remember two tribals are going and they go through it. [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I couldn't breathe. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what's going to happen is Aussie going to turn.

[SPEAKER_01]: But thankfully, [SPEAKER_01]: Angelina is voted off. [SPEAKER_01]: I breathed a sigh of relief and she does a little bit on her way out Where she's just like oh hold on Jeff and then she gives her jackets to them that it's cold and that was really nice and A play for those who do not watch during her season when I want to say Natalie and was walking away She's like Natalie get out of your jacket Natalie Natalie.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just Natalie [SPEAKER_01]: walking. [SPEAKER_01]: Get quiet, kept walking. [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, I don't know that woman, sorry to her. [SPEAKER_01]: So, like we said earlier, I just, you know, I think I'm glad she left. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there was much of an impact that she had on 50 and, you know, it was just good timing.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then we get the other losing tribe on there and it's hard to believe that it's their first time at Tribal. [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: because they walk in and they're like, whoa, wow. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, what, we've been here. [SPEAKER_01]: How many times already?

[SPEAKER_01]: And we all know, they don't know that it's between Rizzo and Charli. [SPEAKER_01]: And the way the votes are done. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like one vote, Rizzo, one vote, Charli. [SPEAKER_01]: Two votes, Rizzo, two votes, Charli. [SPEAKER_01]: We're just like, I'm like, oh my God. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, hoping and praying that it's Rizzo going out with Rizzo.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was opposite. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he was so confident. [SPEAKER_01]: he was smiling and the like the whatever fifth six person voted out is Charlie and I'm like oh so good it but listen at that moment I'm like riso is so annoying but there's something that's has to be said about his bravado about this like it's just like kudos it was a great game move to and also again as 49 it's very easy to tell you let's get rid of the new guy [SPEAKER_00]: He's young, he's a lot, whatever, but he pulled this off.

[SPEAKER_00]: He gave it a fun nickname for us to, you know, be able to cite back to it. [SPEAKER_00]: But he really hustled and found his way to maneuver in here. [SPEAKER_00]: And I give him kudos and I was rooting for Rizza to stay over Charlie. [SPEAKER_00]: I just think. [SPEAKER_00]: Rizzo, and again, it's, you know, an edit, whatever it may be because like the tribe didn't go to tribe, whatever.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like I can feel a passion for Rizzo that he is lying. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he is like he versus, like, I think that's how it's about everything we've been saying. [SPEAKER_00]: Like that Charlie was just kind of coasting. [SPEAKER_00]: enjoying the ride, going with what he had, whatever, and it wasn't exciting gameplay.

[SPEAKER_00]: What we watched last night was exciting gameplay by Brazil, and that's what we want to see especially in season 50. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what happens when you come without trauma. [SPEAKER_01]: The advantage of not having very true. [SPEAKER_01]: He came straight to meet, what did he say?

[SPEAKER_01]: He's played [SPEAKER_01]: two months of his life or whatever, but what just means, that's like not. [SPEAKER_00]: And then compared to like, yeah, always like 35 days, congratulations. [SPEAKER_00]: She made it to nearly nearly an original season's life. [SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so that's what happened and then we get the after and you could tell Charlie was so sad he I think he was crying actually and just like how did this happen and he has to be because Charlie should have been a winner It's just when it was so close you could taste it and then you get your second chance and it's like well against all these people [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you don't, it's gonna be a stretch to win.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, this was not pill battle for him when he was 50. [SPEAKER_00]: The other thing he's definitely is that I would be crushed to. [SPEAKER_00]: This one is, you know, I think it's like a, it's not honored to be here as how I would feel if I got the call for 50. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why so many people answer because he wouldn't want to be on something so monumental.

[SPEAKER_01]: Of course I'm a fan of returning seasons. [SPEAKER_01]: I know like they don't do it anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: I wish they did it's just fun to watch a part of why I like traders like you're seeing people that you know and it's like putting them all together. [SPEAKER_01]: So people from different seasons and then putting them together and seeing how they interact with each other agree that was the episode.

[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to give a shout out to Tiffany in the challenge. [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever she did with that rope my god. [SPEAKER_00]: I love her so much. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a bummer that she's not being featured as much. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping that maybe just her time hasn't come like that she needs her flame to ignite to kick off like that just hasn't had the right the right juffel and dry because she is just such a good personality and vibrant on screen and you know killing in that challenge.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: You remember that's how what happens to Erica and she won this easy. [SPEAKER_01]: That is true. [SPEAKER_00]: I would love, because I follow, you know, the accounts Yeah, for confessionals and edits and editing all that kind of stuff and I have this question. [SPEAKER_00]: I should ask them directly, but I've always been curious about like [SPEAKER_00]: in new era in particular to like are we seeing a pivot in edit and edgic and that kind of stuff like are we weighted to the patty you know like things are very different sort of like when someone makes the challenge all time confessional count yeah and it's like well but they have 90 minute episodes not 30 minute episodes so like does that make a difference um but i've been curious about if survivors just working to

[SPEAKER_00]: tell stories differently than they used to rather than like, oh, we've got a winner. [SPEAKER_00]: So we need to like show them every episode versus like now you can be like totally ignored and show up. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that makes it a little, it's a bummer for the winner. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it makes a little bit more exciting TV if you're kind of immersed in like how the situation was going where maybe like they weren't on the radar and they were just kind of around. [SPEAKER_00]: But then [SPEAKER_01]: That's true and the opposite could be said because like Joe one could argue that he was getting the winners edit.

[SPEAKER_00]: We got so much exactly and that's what I kind of but I think I liked that too of like You got me thank god because I think I did go into that finale being like oh So we're just gonna watch Joe like like a kind of out like yeah like how does Joe win and instead it was like catch rich [SPEAKER_01]: I can't explain how happy I was for someone again who's not like a Joe type player.

[SPEAKER_01]: How hard I was rooting for a Kyle is actually my favorite new error player. [SPEAKER_01]: I must say he's amazing. [SPEAKER_01]: It used to be Mary Ann and then I watched it again and I was reminded like it wasn't really anything it really was just that speech. [SPEAKER_01]: where it was just like I had that, I don't and then boom, and I played this.

[SPEAKER_00]: She took off. [SPEAKER_00]: She was, I've always said, and I grew to really like her. [SPEAKER_00]: I said, if I were on that beach with Mary and initially, her energy level is so different than mine that I don't know how I would have done. [SPEAKER_00]: But she is so extroverted and exuberant.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm a good time, but I am actually very introverted and kind of slow burn. [SPEAKER_00]: But she's that person that it started a bit like she came on strong, like a riso. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, settled, mellowed, found her place, and then just like took off at the merge. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I haven't watched that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't, I haven't rewatched any new hour of season. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll give you credit there. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, what happened is that was in a work trip and it was Pluto. [SPEAKER_01]: And I just went on this survivor channel and just let it clear what it all through. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like my comfort show and that's how I watched like all the different, uh, I think when is a war also came up and that is my favorite.

[SPEAKER_01]: season. [SPEAKER_01]: That is the season. [SPEAKER_01]: If anyone wants to get into Survivor, I recommend that. [SPEAKER_00]: We can see you. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because the only reason why it's kind of strategic in that if you watch it and you've never watched it before and there are people that you like, then go watch their seasons and then that's how it like, you know, go out there and figure out the seasons that you want to watch based on the people that you like.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're trying to make. [SPEAKER_00]: So say it gets like technically like spoils all the seasons, but then like yeah, it makes [SPEAKER_00]: Something at all but like a lot of them. [SPEAKER_00]: My new thing is if somebody, because a lot of people new and I discussed this, I believe that's like about traders being very like casual focus and new people jumping in and they don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I found that's a good way to try to introduce a driver because if there's somebody that they like. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, especially like people are like, I love this poverty and I was like, well, yeah, let me tell you, let me, let me, let me school, you use my Bible, so I found it interesting with this evolutionary reality to be able to share and see people go back and watch things.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm still mad at the show when they did this. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, did you watch any of the like, yeah, we talked about the sauce and you did watch some of those like survivor. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so we're going to get back ones. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that I'm still bitter that they didn't show the first episode ever.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that was such a mistake. [SPEAKER_01]: It's the eradication of Richard Hatch. [SPEAKER_01]: That man should be on 50, I think. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like, it's a controversial, I think there's like a lot of stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he unfortunately is forever. [SPEAKER_00]: And Rudy is no longer with us or else I would've been like, yes, bring him on the beach.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if you vote him out first. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think Richard would have done it, also. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was good on house development. [SPEAKER_00]: He was found on house balance. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: He was trying to think this is a bad boy.

[SPEAKER_01]: But also, you can't go on a show and say that you are offered money to do certain things. [SPEAKER_01]: And then you'd win and then we'll pay the tax. [SPEAKER_01]: And you would, you're not coming back. [SPEAKER_01]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. [SPEAKER_00]: The rule of survivor at this point, get a tax person.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no matter what, whatever place you're going to come in, you're going to need someone to file the taxes properly. [SPEAKER_00]: If you open a netsy shop, find a tax person who can do your tax history, all the above. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's it.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a good episode. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe we're just on episode five, but it's still like citing because that means we still have so many more episodes to go. [SPEAKER_00]: And but we have so many people still love. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't understand how this momentum plays out, but I'm intrigued to see like.

[SPEAKER_00]: How are we like are we getting any are we getting extra episodes? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so like I'm very intrigued where we're going the season with with this What's 17 people? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and as long as we don't do I don't really enjoy the double and the triple No, I don't love that and I also don't like the Let's divide into two and then this group is safe that group is gonna go to I hate those.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's true [SPEAKER_01]: but I anticipate that that's going to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be some stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm that and I don't know maybe well we've got Mr. [SPEAKER_00]: Beast coming, but I don't know if there's any other celebrity cameo is for us to largely make fun of.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Billie Eilish will actually show up. [SPEAKER_01]: I doubt it. [SPEAKER_01]: They would have told us that she was, but thank you, Mel, for coming to see us this season. [SPEAKER_01]: Survivor 50 with me always a pleasure. [SPEAKER_01]: And guys, if you have any questions or thoughts or comments about it, you know what to find me?

[SPEAKER_01]: Also, call MEFS and all of the socials. [SPEAKER_01]: And until next time, guys, bye!

Reality Show Ramble: Survivor 50 w/Mel

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