Summer House Reunion Part 3 w/Brian

[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, everybody. [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to another episode of Tain Talks. [SPEAKER_01]: I am your host, Tain. [SPEAKER_01]: Here to talk about the summer house reunion part three. [SPEAKER_01]: And here with me is Brian from Mass Virgin. [SPEAKER_01]: And we haven't recorded it in what a week.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it was in 84 years. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: And in the time that he's gone, this is Brian's first time on Tain Talks. [SPEAKER_01]: So welcome to Tain Talks, Brian. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the decor is different from lighting is all very different. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a full transition.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready to talk about this. [SPEAKER_00]: Do not worry, I didn't take whatever handful of pills Amanda took to dissociate from this for a year. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm fully here. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I just, you know, I found this part really heavy. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm with Mama Hubbard.

[SPEAKER_01]: You can get clarity. [SPEAKER_01]: The liner asks us off. [SPEAKER_01]: They think we're just as dumb as they are. [SPEAKER_01]: It's so frustrating And because of them, we have very bonus episode next week because I was like, listen, I'm enjoying the reunion But I'm also ready to put this to bed and let's move on with our lives But no, we have something next week.

[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about that? [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, I'm excited to watch it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy they didn't just tuck it into in the city, which I'm also watching, but like, it's not great. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but like I, it's not great. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, it's not, it's not, it's not what the value is because I enjoy watching the value, even though it's the saddest show on TV.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy that we're going to get more. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but on the other hand, it's like the people that I want to hear more from. [SPEAKER_00]: are giving us less than nothing as it is. [SPEAKER_00]: So like, do I really think that we're going to finally get them to on the truth?

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it sounds like West might. [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, yeah, no, I've been in love with your wife since seventh grade. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it sounds like that's good at each of them. [SPEAKER_01]: But that might be the extent of the truth and why it made the highlight. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, maybe, you know, the best part of a movie in between you.

[SPEAKER_01]: That might be the same trailer from the first episode. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, nobody wants to watch them keep lying to us and keep trying to justify like, it happened, it happened, and leave me alone and y'all are being mean to us. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what's annoying. [SPEAKER_01]: If we were going to get radical honesty and we're just going to be like, listen, we fucked up and then we did this and we stand on business.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's messed up, but I'll do it all over again. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe. [SPEAKER_01]: But when you're like, when we were the early days know it was a week after, then we went here and you were insulting our intelligence. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I don't want any more of that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like don't, I don't want to.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I'll tell you, I don't know if I brought this analogy before in wrestling the bad guys the heel right and there's a couple different heels you can be you can be the monster heel you can be the chicken shit heel there be in chicken shit heels, which is like I played dirty and I cheat and then I claim to be the victim.

[SPEAKER_00]: I broke you in the eye and then I fall down so the ref sees me like you hurt me. [SPEAKER_00]: It's what's happening. [SPEAKER_00]: You guys did a bad thing. [SPEAKER_00]: And now you're acting like everyone is being so unfair and so mean, but not celebrating your love. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, this is not.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is not what I'm okay with for villainous behavior. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is. [SPEAKER_01]: Before we get started, just wanted to mention at the top of the episode like patreon.com slash taint talks. [SPEAKER_01]: You can go there for a video for ad free episodes. [SPEAKER_01]: And you can check out bonus episodes where I'm currently covering 90 day fiancee the last resort season three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right. [SPEAKER_01]: We did part one together. [SPEAKER_01]: Part two, I didn't cover, but you can check out my thoughts with Raven on Bitches Better Podcast. [SPEAKER_01]: We covered part two over there. [SPEAKER_01]: So, on that episode, I mentioned how I don't understand the whole Sierra Kyle going to extra mile with Mia, because I don't know, what is a gutture moment going to do, like, it's for us.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank you guys. [SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed it. [SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead. [SPEAKER_00]: It's confirmation. [SPEAKER_00]: It's confirmation that West is the devil. [SPEAKER_00]: It's all this is. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you're not going to get out of here. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, I didn't really have a girlfriend.

[SPEAKER_00]: And like, oh, she's a crazy girl. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, we see her face. [SPEAKER_00]: She signed a release. [SPEAKER_00]: This is now outside party that makes ugly ass horse hair ties saying yes, I was his girlfriend situation like that that to me is better than because it could have gone that's here was like you had a whole girlfriend me on like who's that I could have been left to that but she's like no I'm in this okay so here's my thing I understand your point of like okay now we have [SPEAKER_01]: a face to a name right like when you talk about me uh like if she's not there it sounds like this abstract person is like oh it's just want to grow but someone like me I don't need proof that what's his shit person I just watch the last three seasons and watch his um of air antics I don't need proof like there's proof for that so yes she's a uh a face to a name

[SPEAKER_01]: For Kyle, I genuinely, we're going to get into that. [SPEAKER_01]: Think that he is concerned about Amanda. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like you're with the devil and I need proof, but he doesn't matter what he's doing. [SPEAKER_01]: But for Sierra, I'm like, where are you invested? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yes, he had a girlfriend.

[SPEAKER_01]: You don't care about Amanda. [SPEAKER_01]: She's not your friend anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: West is hopefully no longer your life anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: What do you care that he had a girlfriend? [SPEAKER_01]: That's my, [SPEAKER_01]: thing for her like let's let's step into our new era and it has nothing to do with anything and you know she's telling her sit by your phone like I'll be texting you I'll be calling you for what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, that's fair. [SPEAKER_00]: It that's that part of it. [SPEAKER_00]: That's why I said it's for us. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Sierra is this for her. [SPEAKER_00]: I think she's like, look, man, I don't want to do it and look as bad as possible. [SPEAKER_00]: Kyle's not going to do his over hugging a man to steal.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's the one who reached out to me. [SPEAKER_01]: Have first he just out to see her and she's just like, okay, I'll dunk it. [SPEAKER_00]: But he's not he's not he's not mean enough at this point. [SPEAKER_00]: He can't he's mad, but he's too sad to like act on his anger. [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's getting there.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's going through the stages that the people magazine, I subscribe can wait for my copy to come in. [SPEAKER_01]: So I can devour what I said, I don't think I'll be impressed. [SPEAKER_01]: But it is what it is. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, they have a moment where they're going to break. [SPEAKER_01]: And Bailey, Western Amanda, alone on stage.

[SPEAKER_01]: And other sudden Bailey is checking on Amanda, how is she doing? [SPEAKER_01]: She's getting a lot of flack for that. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a Bailey fan, but I don't hear. [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to check on her, that's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: It's the most basic of how you're doing. [SPEAKER_01]: They're all there on stage.

[SPEAKER_01]: People are like, she should just walk the way. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, it doesn't hurt. [SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing? [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on? [SPEAKER_01]: Bailey asks if she's hanging in there and Amanda says, no, she says, come sit with me. [SPEAKER_01]: And then she says, you know, I'm genuinely worried about you.

[SPEAKER_01]: My interpretation, I get the worry because who in there right might would make this decision for West? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no that would be for West. [SPEAKER_00]: I like Bailey. [SPEAKER_00]: She's a mess and can't flirt with me. [SPEAKER_00]: I said what I said. [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm, if I'm Bailey and I see Amanda, I'm not having her come sit by, I'm gonna mush her in the face and walk away.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, or like, you know, like trip her make her fall over or something like that. [SPEAKER_00]: I think, um, I think you're correct that everyone is concerned for Amanda, not because she's like a fragile flower with these mental health issues, but it's like, [SPEAKER_00]: and okay person would not do this with this man.

[SPEAKER_01]: As you know, about to enter your Ariana Maddox era. [SPEAKER_01]: That is insane. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is you are filming yourself doing steroids the night before your Hall of Fame induction speech. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, do not get let you in now. [SPEAKER_00]: You had it. [SPEAKER_00]: You were done.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you decided to fucking up for him. [SPEAKER_00]: No, it okay person does not move like that. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, so that's what I think she meant when she said, you know, I'm genuinely worried about you apparently she texted her the night before and Amanda in her monotone voice and stairs like maybe I'm naive but we've had conversations and [SPEAKER_01]: You know, thankfully, Bailey says, I do not trust him at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: And Amanda's like, that's okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this would be a huge mistake and I'll wake up one day and realize it. [SPEAKER_01]: Listener, she does not think this is a mistake. [SPEAKER_01]: She's just saying now, she absolutely does not think this is a mistake. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, she believes it's just true love.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is, this is, but daddy, I love him. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's what this is. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, dude, if all of your friends are like, that man is garbage and it's gonna hurt you, you look dumb as hell for being like, he's cool. [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, this is not gonna go well. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I gotta say the girl looks zanned out and she also looks on well.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like, [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, she, she looks, she looks peeled out her, her pupils are the size of dinner plates, and she's, I, I am an emotional person. [SPEAKER_00]: I cry easily all of these things. [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm up there with friends of mine who are like, look man, you're a piece of shit.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be able to sit there like nom, good. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually okay, I'm totally fine. [SPEAKER_00]: She's performing Amber Portwood on the couch. [SPEAKER_00]: Like you have, there's nothing behind those eyes and I am going to recklessly speculate there are chemicals involved.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not your first time brand to recklessly. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just what I do. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, throw in the allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. [SPEAKER_00]: Sprinkle it all on top. [SPEAKER_01]: Sprinkle sprinkle sprinkle. [SPEAKER_00]: That's right. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so she says that it's hard to sit on the stage and explain herself when no one is going to listen and Bailey's like, yeah, like Bailey, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to what? [SPEAKER_01]: What is there to explain? [SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to explain? [SPEAKER_01]: How are you the victim again? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you not get tired of being the victim? [SPEAKER_01]: If you're gonna be a villain, if you're gonna make a decision like this, take all that it comes with.

[SPEAKER_01]: I need to take a deep breath. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just so frustrated by everything. [SPEAKER_01]: It's especially because I do not have the answer to why it doesn't make any sense So all this is for not There's no answer at the end of this. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, will the answer to why is that she is like a malignant pick-me girl and he she got picked That's all this is she wanted a man who wanted to have sex with her to like [SPEAKER_00]: throw her a bone and that's all that it takes for her to get excited and like do bad things essentially.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like because she this is this is not the only man who has like ever stood up for her in the house as she likes to believe because Carl is right there. [SPEAKER_00]: It's the only man who stood up for her who then like took his pants off. [SPEAKER_00]: And like that's she's a picnic girl and I don't know how we didn't notice it until just now but like I was blind to this until this this season.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think trying to remember what I felt, but I can't remember what I feel, so I can't say anything with conviction. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, how I felt, but I think it was EBS and Flows. [SPEAKER_01]: I think we had moments where Amanda, like during the Luke time, when she was always whiny and you're just like, okay, she seems mean.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why are you being so mean about this? [SPEAKER_01]: When she was mean to Jews and it's like, okay, this is strange. [SPEAKER_01]: And then sometimes you get overshadowed Kyle is the person who overshadows [SPEAKER_01]: the relationship. [SPEAKER_01]: He sucks up at the air when they walk in.

[SPEAKER_01]: So then we're focused on that. [SPEAKER_01]: And then she had all the friends that covered that up. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's easy to get lost into it. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's the kind of manipulative, nice person. [SPEAKER_01]: Like you just throw rocks, hide your hands. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not like obvious.

[SPEAKER_01]: But in hindsight, [SPEAKER_01]: We can all see it clearly, but I think it was up and down. [SPEAKER_01]: We were just, well, well, now Amanda would never do that, but I think Amanda is like a Brittany from the valley I've just never like Brittany is just that the cast decided that Brittany has a son and accent, so she can never do anything wrong So she's great, and I'm like guys for her to be with Jacks There is something wrong with her, okay?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so to be with Jacks from this long [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it doesn't absolve it and then she does all the things and then everyone was like, Oh, no, Brittany would never and then they could they can literally see her like Staps somewhat and about now she's just cleaning the knife. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the thing to wear this thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I see a mentor and bring me in the same vein where people are just like oh she's frail she's fragile She would never but those are the worst kinds because you can hide and please. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well the difference is Brittany has not done anything unequivocally evil yet [SPEAKER_00]: Like she didn't mean and gotten a pass for it, but we haven't like we haven't seen her like go hook up with Luke or whatever And like Kristen's bed I think by the way, I mean is when people cast their similar in that they're casting to roles, so they're able to get with more [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to put a disclaimer, this just not mean that I support Jesse Lali deciding that, oh, we need to go after what the hell is that insane.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's not what I mean. [SPEAKER_01]: I just mean that they've been cast into roles, so they're able to get away with more stuff because perception sometimes is reality. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like, oh, they're from a popularity came from and so it's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: And if now Britney steals, what is more likely is Britney stealing a man from Lala because they have the same taste.

[SPEAKER_01]: Then everyone's going to roll the tape back and it was going to be never saw it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it was. [SPEAKER_01]: You just decided no matter what she did it's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, true. [SPEAKER_01]: So dad and K. J. [SPEAKER_01]: This dish with their children break are talking to Carl and Carl is telling Lindsay you're unbelievable.

[SPEAKER_01]: You're great. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what are you doing? [SPEAKER_01]: you know you don't want to do anything so what what are you doing right now so then um checks on Sierra to see if she's okay and then Lindsey is like dissecting Carl and Jessie being six five but Jessie's slouching and they joke about um Kyle saying you six five mother fucker like it was an insult [SPEAKER_00]: He can't, he can't guess anybody.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not good at that part of it, but that is funny. [SPEAKER_01]: He's funny, isn't it? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm just like, no matter what happens in the next year, hopefully they come back. [SPEAKER_01]: Please always sit, Kyle and Lindsay together, because they're, he wants me to, together.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're fun, they're fun side by side. [SPEAKER_01]: Andy S. West, when did he turn from friends? [SPEAKER_01]: And West is like, well, we're going out a lot in February and March, you know, with my friends. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, we share mutual friends. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, name them name the friends that were originally West and became her friends name her friends that you had that we're all.

[SPEAKER_01]: And this, I'm not going to use the term. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like we'll give you buzzwords and narcissists and all that stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: But this motherfucker, I can use that. [SPEAKER_01]: says, I took it personal that I was seeing her blossom, that I saw her happy, that I saw her.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, you think it's because, I mean, it was because of him, I actually, but it's just, yeah, no, it's gross. [SPEAKER_00]: It's gross. [SPEAKER_00]: It's gross, it's nasty, it's all, all of this is stupid. [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like the idea that you want me to believe that this is a real love relationship, [SPEAKER_00]: You know, two seasons from now, we're going to get the West and Amanda wedding special.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you guys are not going to be together before I finish this sentence. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: That's all my keychother. [SPEAKER_01]: You don't know that. [SPEAKER_01]: I get it. [SPEAKER_01]: And then these keys are Swiss beats. [SPEAKER_01]: Still together.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, but Swiss beats is talented. [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my gosh. [SPEAKER_01]: She's getting something out of it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Swiss, he's going to be he big beats. [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be the best beats in the business. [SPEAKER_01]: what are the two people the today show people they getting married oh god they aren't good you know Amy Robock and two day homes that is named yes yes look at that okay all right let us stop you true love it's gross you're right get I guess maybe they will be in love it's okay there's also there's there's recale in scent of all there there's also there it's not yeah [SPEAKER_01]: They asked Amanda and she was like, it wasn't necessarily like a slow burn or something that it was there was a night.

[SPEAKER_01]: He said something in a minute. [SPEAKER_01]: He said, is there something? [SPEAKER_01]: All the emotions came flooding in. [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a slow burn and I'm like, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: I said, oh, that doesn't happen. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, but you know what, if you think in the mind of Amanda, Amanda has to be told what to think.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if West thinks there's something, oh my god, there's something. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's make something happen. [SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, all the emotions came flooding in. [SPEAKER_01]: But I think we up to whatever she's taking during the break. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, when she was back there, you saw Lindsey said she was gone for more than an hour, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So if she's back there for an hour, I don't know what pills she is eating, but like I just picture she ate a handful of pills, laid down under that bay-ass blanket, waited to feel the rush and then's like, okay, now I can go back out there on the stage. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, this is more not fooling anybody.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like I've watched every episode of Intervention, you're not fooling anybody. [SPEAKER_01]: But that's why I said he was kind of heavy. [SPEAKER_01]: I just did just so many layers of this, like I'm not even talking about West sweating his ass off. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, dripping, dripping.

[SPEAKER_00]: His hair was fucked up by the end. [SPEAKER_00]: It was fucked up when he came in, but he got worse by the end of us. [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_01]: OK, I'm going to take a break and I'll be right back. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so they come back and then Andy's like, okay, I'm just gonna ask directly, where you guys are having an affair during the summer and in Unison, they got this one right there, like, absolutely not, like, okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I guess I'm dumb, so I'll believe you. [SPEAKER_01]: all right and she was like okay fine if you were not having an affair but you were making us feel crazy and then Kyle adds like you know West also in March, February responded on the Sierra's post and was like holy frick like you know she was so hot and they were being so like calculated about the whole thing and I'm still mad that we didn't get to see [SPEAKER_00]: This man needs to work for the CIA.

[SPEAKER_00]: This was a document. [SPEAKER_00]: He had to quote Heather Gay, receipts, proof, timeline, he had everything. [SPEAKER_00]: It was exactly what I wanted. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know why that was not put on screen. [SPEAKER_00]: And just like, Andy walked through it. [SPEAKER_00]: That was really, really well done.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it wasn't even in the extended cut on there. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, that's the other casualty of this affair is that this whole thing became about them. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I know that Lindsay is so pissed that the house that she built, season 10, a monumental season is going to clip by these idiots.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's all we're talking about. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're not, you know, focus on everybody else. [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's just there sitting there. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, dare I had one line, and that was it. [SPEAKER_01]: She just covered up with KJ, the rest of the time, [SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing else to talk about because we couldn't talk about the whole thing when Bailey said, oh, you went in with Ben and all you came out.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, well, you jealous, continue to do so many questions that we could ask. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still mad that we didn't ask the whole what's up. [SPEAKER_01]: We leave by Bailey and Lindsey saying that Dara was different. [SPEAKER_01]: Cloud, why don't we not asking these questions?

[SPEAKER_00]: There weren't things that happened, you know, yeah, they put poor Levi and escape board and just pushed her across the stage, she was hearing gone immediately. [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, there was, there was a lot of stuff that, [SPEAKER_00]: could have been discussed that just wasn't I would have I would have liked to get you know Lindsey and Carl talking about their sit down in the igloo a little bit more because that was like a really important moment for the history of the show yeah it wasn't like super dramatic there would be nice to hear them talk about what they were feeling in that moment a little bit because that relationship is so important to the lore of the show [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's like, Andy could just ask, it's like, do you, like, what hurt you the most about that breakup as of now?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like now that sometimes past, like, what is the thing that, you know, you hated the most about it? [SPEAKER_01]: Because I still feel like she has resentment about him making it public. [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe she's talked about it very much. [SPEAKER_01]: But in the, in the heat of them trying to rebuild something, let's revisit, let's see where that is, what Carl, what do you want out it?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, they were just still opportunities [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, there were missed opportunities and it's it's a man-in-west fault as always and he says on what what happens live she asked he asked me a if he if she thought something happened and she said yeah the last few episodes like during the fight she's listening examples that a man knows calm she was talking to them in the kitchen [SPEAKER_01]: but then Wes comes in and she flies into his arms and then suddenly he's crying and he's kissing her on the head and the producers are like, hold please and they roll.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've got it. [SPEAKER_01]: Beautiful, beautiful edge. [SPEAKER_01]: When we see it, zoom in and have it. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, during the fight that, you know, she runs outside to talk to Kyle and then West comes really close. [SPEAKER_01]: His hands are so comfortable, so close to her breasts.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, he would never touch her like that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I know he hasn't and little like yeah for the for record he hasn't. [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, uh, and no one mentions how they jumped when they were saying goodbye and like that is what I want. [SPEAKER_01]: What was that about?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like that we have been about. [SPEAKER_01]: Plays that one. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want them to recall it because Ma'am is saying like she didn't watch it and it's like, We got to make this mandatory for these people to watch this. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Is they're getting away with a lot of stuff between the podcast and the tell-alls and the everything else.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like we need to start making this people pay in some way or foreign because it's annoying. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, clockwork, orange them, strap them into a chair, hold their eyeballs open and make them watch, put little drops in when they get dry, but like you have got to make them watch this.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, what's was like, I don't know they thought about this. [SPEAKER_01]: They were like, well, if you guys thought something was weird, you would have flagged it because we're all in the house together. [SPEAKER_01]: And me and like, no, we wouldn't have, no, sorry as a victim. [SPEAKER_01]: And we also we thought she would never do that.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I said the same thing. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I think it was we're even also we're just talking about, oh, as the room is true, everybody stop and I'm like, I'm and it would never. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I said it on this podcast. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember. [SPEAKER_01]: Stupid me.

[SPEAKER_01]: And even though I did put the caveat, I'm like, you can never put anything past any brevillarity. [SPEAKER_01]: Anything is possible. [SPEAKER_01]: You know? [SPEAKER_01]: Poor shit took a man. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame, it's a shame,

[SPEAKER_00]: we might have some feelings here is just okay with you and then she gave the blessing. [SPEAKER_00]: My dumbass never imagined that they were just been like doing this and lying to people and all of that was not the scenario that I saw at all. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh yeah, it was us. [SPEAKER_01]: We were talking about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and you're like, I'm a moron, current out. [SPEAKER_01]: He said, I want the mess. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I do love mess. [SPEAKER_01]: going back to it all and just thinking about it, just in general, why are you so chummy with a guy that hurt your friend? [SPEAKER_01]: Like you claim that she's your best friend, she's helped you through whether or not you think that it was a relationship that was deep enough or not, why are you so chummy with the office?

[SPEAKER_00]: could never be me, could never be me. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't get. [SPEAKER_01]: So then when you do hang out, because the truth is she never, we're gonna get to when Andy asked you ever see her as a show friend, but it's you never saw her as a friend. [SPEAKER_01]: That's just a God on his truth of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: So they claimed like they didn't have a crush on each other and she was like, it's so easy for you guys to see through the lens that you want to. [SPEAKER_01]: Amanda claims like, I would never cheat. [SPEAKER_00]: You're actively, you're married, so you're actively cheating right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would say what you want to say about it, but you're honest, I'm papers yet. [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay's throwing out words, and then she's like, well, maybe seems like it was an emotional affair. [SPEAKER_01]: And West was like, you know what, that's fair. [SPEAKER_01]: I can give you that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure Amanda's like, what are you doing? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, Amanda, here we give this because her brain is not working right now. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true. [SPEAKER_01]: So Liz was like, yeah, and looking back when you were yelling when West kissed that girl right beside Sierra, it just felt like you were yelling at West for yourself and not for a Sierra.

[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle is just like Kyle is trying to put two words together. [SPEAKER_01]: The man is distraught and he's just like I have a type like I have a timeline question He brings up the Super Bowl Brianna chicken fry day port noi and Amanda is like under her breath, but she's my cup. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's a good fucking thing and [SPEAKER_01]: Kyle says he has been de-end and it was only one week between their split and was there anything that happened there and Amanda says, [SPEAKER_00]: Well, them dogs died, huh?

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what happened to them. [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing? [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, it's just like, oh, did you guys come forward because of the speculation or were you just planning on lying? [SPEAKER_01]: Which, what is the lie if they're going out publicly everywhere? [SPEAKER_01]: They want it to be caught.

[SPEAKER_01]: They don't even know the fans are insane. [SPEAKER_01]: No, this is not a lie. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't imagine thinking you could pull this off long term and like not have everybody find out like this is not I mean this is I don't know I don't even have a comp what this would be like this and you guys are you're playing everyone's face and I mean the only one I got is like you know college football recruiting you can't show up at somebody else's campus when you are already saying I'm going to go to this school wearing all [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know what you're doing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, she was like, were you going to keep lying? [SPEAKER_01]: And she says, like, I meant it's like, well, the speculation was so much. [SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot of speculation. [SPEAKER_01]: And we were trying to figure out what we were doing, including the whole Mia situation.

[SPEAKER_01]: and me and should have been a lawyer because she set it up so she can be like you fall into my trap. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, oh sorry, I have a follow up question because I want to follow up with that. [SPEAKER_01]: So just making sure you had nothing to do with hurting your friendship with Sierra, but more about figuring out the Mia situation.

[SPEAKER_01]: Got it? [SPEAKER_01]: Got it. [SPEAKER_01]: So, and then it's like, oh my god, I know I didn't handle it right, and that's all I need to do, not a whole lot, and you know, I'm so sorry for lying to you, Sierra, and then Andy asked Wes, like, [SPEAKER_01]: didn't need to know that he was dating other people.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's like, well, I mean, I told her it was not an exclusive relationship and serious like you're lying. [SPEAKER_01]: You sent her flowers on Valentine's Day. [SPEAKER_01]: Again, put it here so much like stuff don't tell him that you care. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the, oh, I don't like it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I mean, she knows this cause me how it was like, so here's the, the, the followers. [SPEAKER_00]: He sent me on Valentine's day. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like the chocolate hearts. [SPEAKER_01]: I just wouldn't want details. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like you've done this. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I know for sure you are not my person. [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever gave her that idea, the West is her person. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can move on and whatever you decide to do with your life is fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't need details. [SPEAKER_01]: What am I going to do with this? [SPEAKER_01]: It's still, well, and she better not be this way through me.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, she might, my only thought process here is she knows that she needs as much damning evidence against this man as possible to not fall back into this again in a year or two because for what I don't know what hold he has on her I'm not sure if this was some kind of a wish or a spell that he put on her or which craft or whatever, but I think she's just like, [SPEAKER_00]: I am afraid that if I just say, okay, he took up with Amanda, it went on for a couple of months, it was gross, but like, I don't want to keep on hating him forever.

[SPEAKER_00]: That maybe she would fall forward again. [SPEAKER_00]: So she's like, I need to see as much evidence as possible to store in here forever so that if I ever have an inkling that maybe I'll do this again, I will know to not. [SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, this is just a lot of obsession over this shit ass man.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Kyle says, like, I'm just January concerned for Amanda and it seems like this is your M.O. [SPEAKER_01]: like you just lead women on and want to see me go back and forth on where they exclusive where they not and I think this man just realized in real time that exclusive video and someone be a girlfriend or kind of like the same thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'll listen to Violet, but it's like, you know, please, you do. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't keep up with the lies because it's just very clearly a lie and you're talking [SPEAKER_01]: and they're all talking over each other and then Kyle and Sierra saying like oh I have a timeline and like oh okay and he asked Amanda like okay this all of this give you cause for concern and Sierra just keeps yelling he flew her out for a game when he's dad he told her and they were saying I love you to each other like Amanda just calmly says I need some of this but not all like yeah some of this is new to me right now in this moment [SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised that she did it to that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I thought her whole game and was united for it, and then I'm gonna deal with you behind closed doors, but I mean, I'm not giving her a clue. [SPEAKER_01]: 10 hours later. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: We did it to that. [SPEAKER_01]: So they say there was nothing really going on between them on Vows Day, so that's fine.

[SPEAKER_01]: And they were like, okay, but you just said, January. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, see. [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_00]: Messy. [SPEAKER_01]: Bailey is just like under her breath like, I don't know, the Super Bowl thing is kind of incriminating. [SPEAKER_01]: She's telling Mia because, you know, Fortnite has no reason to get involved.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's a whole separate conversation. [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't like to be amazing. [SPEAKER_01]: So Amanda gives him a look. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the look was because they were talking about the whole Val's day thing. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she is just realizing we don't know what he has told her about this situation.

[SPEAKER_01]: Again, West is just sweating up a storm and then Jesse tears up and says like he just hurts. [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like he's been lied to and the sanctity of this friend group feels broken. [SPEAKER_01]: And he just did not expect it. [SPEAKER_01]: What did you think about this? [SPEAKER_01]: And what did you, what, what are your general thoughts on Jesse knowing or not knowing about this whole thing?

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Jesse knew. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he was the Tom Schwartz in this situation helping to like hide the bodies and shit. [SPEAKER_00]: I think he is genuinely hurt that his friend lied to him and did it repeatedly. [SPEAKER_00]: And now that we've seen his timeline, [SPEAKER_00]: gave him ample opportunities to be truthful.

[SPEAKER_00]: He shows not to. [SPEAKER_00]: And Matt has really shaken Jesse. [SPEAKER_00]: And then to know that he also had a friend who did this to him over the summer. [SPEAKER_00]: He's also like a Moshe right at the Matt, too. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like Jesse. [SPEAKER_00]: He kind of bothers me.

[SPEAKER_00]: But at this moment, I'm like, this man is clearly very emotionally affected by this because he thought this was his boy. [SPEAKER_00]: And when you have those moments where it's like, oh, this is my boy. [SPEAKER_00]: And then he does some dirty, underhanded shit to you. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, we at guess we were never boys in the first place.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I really put a lot of trust in you and a lot of value in this friendship. [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, not to take the side of any man here. [SPEAKER_00]: But like male friendships that are good can be hard to come by sometimes. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And so when you think you have one, and then you find out, oh, you're just a piece of shit, huh?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like it, that'll rattle you a little bit. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if he was not truly emotionally damaged by this, that man needs to start doing professional dramatic acting, because like, I believe all of his emotions, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, replace the singing with acting instead, like maybe you do a jailo, quit singing, just a hat instead.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, I'm just torn. [SPEAKER_01]: I was convinced that he had an inkling and he was like, I'm just gonna protect my boy or not protect, but you know how guys are like, not my business, not my problem. [SPEAKER_01]: But like the more he speaks, the more he says like, he confronted, he asked, he did this and they said, no, and you know, this happened to him.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think I mean, clients believe him. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the other part people are talking about it. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's noticed more in romantic relationships, [SPEAKER_01]: two, three, poor decisions when it comes to men and you get to the point where you don't trust yourself and it's like, what is it about me where I am believing this?

[SPEAKER_01]: So on the flip side of the friendship, Jesse and Wes had the bond of coming in together, right? [SPEAKER_01]: And they were a success in the string of failed male house guests on the summer house and they had this bond and they were there together and it's like, if you did this and I had no inkling [SPEAKER_01]: how broken is my picker for friends.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to sit with that and then we find out that your best friend did the same thing. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's two people in my life and I had no idea. [SPEAKER_01]: So okay, is it something about me or can I not detect bullshit and then you question yourself and that's a whole other layer that you have to sit with, you know, within yourself.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's the other part that, you know, it's not being spoken about. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, so Andy says so West, you told then I want to be a boyfriend like I don't want to portray anything even close to a boy if it starts with Boy, please do not put my name in the but are you monogamous [SPEAKER_01]: question because I got it till you ran and talking about a man down west.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say oh, why don't you go after Europe is going to say boyfriend or girlfriend. [SPEAKER_01]: It is odd for me to call them boyfriend and girlfriend. [SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't feel right. [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't roll off the plate. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just weird. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that is her boyfriend and she is not his girlfriend. [SPEAKER_00]: to say about that. [SPEAKER_00]: I'd be, it's, it's Mihal over again. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, yeah, she thought, but I, I didn't, I don't know, I'm over here, it's looking dick everywhere. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't, I think he, she, he would like for her to be part of his roster.

[SPEAKER_00]: He can't have a roster anymore, because everyone's watching him now. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what they, they're probably was a period of time in the beginning before everyone knew where she was just in his rotation, essentially. [SPEAKER_00]: Now he's like, oh, damn it. [SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm stuck with this one, huh?

[SPEAKER_01]: he is trapped because there's nothing he can do now that's not going to be out. [SPEAKER_01]: People are thinking pictures of them just like doing the slightest of things. [SPEAKER_01]: So the minute it goes to the bells and the better. [SPEAKER_01]: That's disgusting, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: He better sharpen his.

[SPEAKER_01]: Great confidence. [SPEAKER_01]: because he just needs to break up with her. [SPEAKER_01]: If he's going to do anything, because it's going to be everywhere. [SPEAKER_01]: And here's the thing. [SPEAKER_01]: This is going to happen. [SPEAKER_01]: If they don't last and they break up, what's still not going to have a problem in finding women?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because listen, anybody has a chance. [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody like they, I've seen people do worse, and they still have a string of, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: girlfriends. [SPEAKER_01]: So he'll be fine. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't understand it, but it's going to happen for him. [SPEAKER_00]: It's great.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're different. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, see, uh, Amanda currently thinks that she's going to be different. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what's going to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: All the others. [SPEAKER_01]: So, um, [SPEAKER_01]: What does say yes there monogamous, but I think Amanda interrupts him and says something I was like, oh, not since the feelings but since the statements they've been monogamous and like, guys, this is not a textbook.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've said it over and over again. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want my reality shows to feel like homework. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have time for timelines and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: Just tell me, do you have feelings, yes or no? [SPEAKER_01]: Don't tell me before the feelings before the statement.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can't keep up, which statement? [SPEAKER_01]: The Kyle and Amanda statement, you own West statement, is it January, is it February, is it Port Nori, Super Bowl, I think it's too much. [SPEAKER_01]: you know? [SPEAKER_00]: Are you fucking other people or not? [SPEAKER_00]: Like that is the question.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, Andy asked if they feel pressure to make this work and West Agree is like, yeah, there's already pressure being a public eye, but I do feel pressure to make it work, but I like the way Andy phrases it, he's like, you know, for some of you clear commitment issues. [SPEAKER_00]: And West is like, you have those, yep.

[SPEAKER_01]: You can always count on West to not disagree when something negative is being said about him. [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, that sounds about right. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll check it out. [SPEAKER_01]: So, um... [SPEAKER_01]: Kyle says that, you know, he loves Amanda, and he's just mad, because she was vulnerable, they close the doors on their marriage, and he made the move, and now he isolated her, and right now she's on an island, and he just wants to know, what is your plan for Amanda?

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, okay, Amanda is still in a zombie state, but, um, she's a growing woman, Brian, [SPEAKER_01]: She made her choice. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't get the- I know where he's coming from. [SPEAKER_01]: He's been her- [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say protector because he's been the attacker, but he's been her husband.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was so long and now you want to step up to protect her after you told us all the things she's lazy, she smokes weed all day, she's not supportive, she doesn't give anything in and now you want to switch up and she's vulnerable and West has all this power and isolated her. [SPEAKER_01]: Does he have some kind of power?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he does. [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I'm currently watching couples therapy and one of the couples that she's speaking, that therapy stills her, like, don't speak right now. [SPEAKER_01]: You have very convincing powers. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, well, no, I go. [SPEAKER_01]: And she goes, yes, you do.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just be quiet. [SPEAKER_00]: So you're a best student. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, West does have some kind of power, but you cannot take the owners from Amanda that she willingly went into this relationship and that's the only, you know, side I, it's not the only, but it's a side I am getting Kyle for saying this like she's not isolated.

[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't want to be with you guys. [SPEAKER_01]: You guys are going to tell us, you don't need that. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she is isolated, because you can't, she has Katie Luka. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And then, like, West Friends, and doesn't sound like there's anybody. [SPEAKER_00]: She can't make new friends right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he did, this did isolate her. [SPEAKER_00]: He did not isolate her. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, choose self-isolation. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying is like she doesn't want to be with the guys They're gonna tell you the truth that you telling me like oh if you're gonna see her and Everybody do for a drink.

[SPEAKER_01]: You said no page wants to hang out These are people who are going to tell you the truth you want to hang out with me You know that thing where if you're looking for advice you kind of know which friend you're gonna go to because you go to the friend That would tell you what you want to hear.

[SPEAKER_01]: She's not gonna go to them West friends are [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who they are, but they're going to be like, yeah, you deserve to be happy. [SPEAKER_01]: Go for it. [SPEAKER_01]: You've been in it. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what she's going to hang out with. [SPEAKER_01]: So she plays a part into what's happening.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I broke a dog in West and magician did it. [SPEAKER_01]: But for the very first time, I did see bags under cows eyes. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, no, he listened by the end of this. [SPEAKER_00]: He's just like, man, call me Carl, because I'm a mess.

[SPEAKER_00]: He just wasn't doing well anymore by the [SPEAKER_01]: Monsist-stressed, so, okay, take another break and I'll be right back. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, Kyle continues and says that he did consider West to be one of his best friends, and that it was just so weird when West was texting him about their sex life or lack thereof, meanwhile he was in a dinner date with Amanda in Miami.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is on Jesse's timeline, by the way, just go look it up on social media where he's like, they went to dinner without me. [SPEAKER_01]: And I literally said, oh my god, out loud. [SPEAKER_01]: And Jesse says, if the dinner was innocent, because West was like, oh, we were just friends.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jesse was like, OK, so why was I invited? [SPEAKER_01]: And then West is like, we had dinner plans the next day, whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if this is a strong statement because they just brushed past it and I'm like, okay, maybe it's not a big deal.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think this was the worst thing I heard. [SPEAKER_01]: this whole reign. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, because we've gone over and over and over, but for me, this part three, you just kept getting worse and worse and worse as to how terrible it's not just a lie that we're trying to cover, like they were just being selfish, reckless, and poor humans, but the fact that you knew something was going on and you still texted him to find out information while on a date with his wife.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no this is this is terrible. [SPEAKER_00]: This is this is terrible. [SPEAKER_00]: This is this is rock Rochelle asking Ariana. [SPEAKER_00]: So you guys don't like like each other anymore, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Like this was the exact same thing as that. [SPEAKER_00]: This is horrible.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know why Andy wasn't like, wait, let's hear more about this, like you want. [SPEAKER_01]: So what was your intent? [SPEAKER_01]: Cause West is all, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have done that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like no, no, no, no, no, let's walk through the process. [SPEAKER_01]: What were you trying to find out?

[SPEAKER_01]: Amanda, did you know he was texting? [SPEAKER_01]: Were you in a, like, let's dive deep into this part. [SPEAKER_01]: The rest we've heard a hundred times, they're just gonna say we weren't thinking, it was May June, July, summer, spring, joggers, I don't know, but I just wish that we had to dive deeper into that.

[SPEAKER_01]: He says it makes sense that everyone's concerned that he's a worse person to risk it all for. [SPEAKER_01]: And in this whole time, Amanda has not said a word. [SPEAKER_00]: No, because she's not here with us, like she's somewhere else. [SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, Sterlite Andy says, like, you have to have known that, you know, people were suspicious and it was going to come out, like you were basically bragging about it and she's like, no, it wasn't and it wasn't bragging.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then call points out like, no, you did a 20 carousel thing about West and then at the end, you're like, this is how much I care. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, oh, wait, wait, that was a dumb mistake. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it wasn't intentional. [SPEAKER_01]: I promise. [SPEAKER_01]: It was totally unrelated to the, uh, what again, earlier, I said that she was hanging out with a guy that hurt her best friend.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he's now the star of your carousel. [SPEAKER_01]: I, it doesn't need sense. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what Andy asked and says so well, they freeze it as a viewer question and it's like so was this a show Friendship with Sierra or was it a real friendship um the pause was too long Yeah, first of all and then when she said she was like no, I mean it was a real friendship because of course What it could be anything other than that because it would be insensitive and insane to say otherwise [SPEAKER_00]: Incensitive and insane, the Amanda Betua story, like, yes, it would be and you did that.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, but here's the thing. [SPEAKER_01]: I was just like, what did she say that out loud? [SPEAKER_01]: It's bigger. [SPEAKER_01]: What I heard was, no, I'm going to say like, it's a real friendship because if I say otherwise, well, that would be insensitive and insane, but I'm going to say the right thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I'm like, oh my god. [SPEAKER_00]: If I say it was, and I'm the bad guy, so it was real. [SPEAKER_01]: What's her is that what he's going to hear right um Yeah, this is when she's here so she hasn't been watching because I think Andy asked her like you know when you watch the episodes like You know what did you think and she's like I haven't been watching this show And Amanda says oh, I'm gonna watch it after and they're like after it's a little too late for Watch it It's just like I'm like god.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not playing victim because she knew that she could pinpoint all the stuff that [SPEAKER_01]: People were going to say about her and I'm like, is that what it's about? [SPEAKER_01]: Like Paige said we live our lives in front of a camera not because of the camera So I don't know why you're there pinpointing and if you know you could pinpoint then don't do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's an option. [SPEAKER_00]: Do bad things like that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do that [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, Sierra tells her like, you don't care. [SPEAKER_01]: You don't, you really don't care about me. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just stop the act. [SPEAKER_01]: So Andy tries again. [SPEAKER_01]: He gets all daddy mode and turns around and I was like, I mean, do you understand why people are really upset?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't think it's clicky. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's such a huge friend betrayal. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and then they show the real of Sierra just like, hyping her and, you know, the camera and things that is, I got emotional. [SPEAKER_00]: It was brutal, I put it away from us. [SPEAKER_01]: Because in all of this, it's not like Sarah's not going through our own things.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, beyond the boys, beyond everything, she's going through whatever she's going through. [SPEAKER_01]: She still has the energy. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, call me when you need it. [SPEAKER_01]: She brings her own friend. [SPEAKER_01]: They rally around you too, and still. [SPEAKER_01]: He says, like, what are you thinking?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when you're betraying her, what's going on? [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, this has been a confusing and crazy time. [SPEAKER_01]: And I developed feelings for someone I shouldn't have. [SPEAKER_01]: Here are my follow up questions Brian, why did you think you have to follow through just because you have feelings for a person doesn't mean you have to follow through like especially after a 10 year relationship, a difficult hard relationship where there was a whole bunch of things you did not like and just to shit in us of it all.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, was it even not thought like, you know what? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I do have feelings for you. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we shouldn't hang out so much because if you're claiming it's because you hang out so much, let's give each other some space. [SPEAKER_01]: Plus you're seeing other people.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's give each other some space and see if it's like a proximity thing. [SPEAKER_01]: What's that thing where? [SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you're with a therapist or something, you fall in love with a therapist because you're helping you figure out your life and what maybe things like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe if we have space, I'm hanging out with other people. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she claims she has friends. [SPEAKER_01]: They're not imaginary. [SPEAKER_00]: She ain't got no. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm both friends. [SPEAKER_01]: And let's see what happens just to give yourself a chance to do the right thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I wish these were all the things that were asked because it seems like in Amanda's mind I get I never say West because West is bottom of the pile. [SPEAKER_01]: That is not an option for him. [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe I am giving Amanda too much credit based on what we thought she was.

[SPEAKER_01]: But was that not a thought for you to even try? [SPEAKER_01]: Why jumping to a relationship immediately? [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you feel your life is not complete if you do not have a man in it? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and you know, listen, [SPEAKER_00]: I have been married for a long time now.

[SPEAKER_00]: When I was in college and I was dating somebody, there were also lots of other women that I thought attractive that I might have had like a crush on whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not like, well, what am I gonna do? [SPEAKER_00]: Not have sex with them? [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, I'm dating somebody.

[SPEAKER_00]: So no, I'm not going to. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's not like just because you develop feelings for somebody and they say, hey, I have feelings for you too. [SPEAKER_00]: You're closed, take themselves off, like you. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to do any, you could, the logical thing to do would be, say, oh, shit.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: We have both flown way to close to the sun here. [SPEAKER_00]: We need to put an end to this. [SPEAKER_00]: And like, yes, that means denying ourselves something that we want. [SPEAKER_00]: That's called being an adult. [SPEAKER_00]: And so like, I'm, I'm, I'm flattered that you feel is way about me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I need you to know. [SPEAKER_00]: I do have feelings for you too. [SPEAKER_00]: We cannot do this. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what a grown-up would do. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was an absolute conscious decision, but she has decided to frame it as I fell for someone and there was nothing I could do about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Once you fall for someone, oh my god, you just got to go for it. [SPEAKER_01]: That like me I said, we morally bankrupt. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like, listen man, I am peppy little pew. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care about the cat or not. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't stop kissing it. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, make a choice man.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she says it kills me to know how much I hurt you Sierra and Sierra's like, no, you don't like you didn't even send you sent me a text 24 hours before you put out the statement and I don't know if it's a pattern now she told Kyle we have to put out a statement right now in the first of January.

[SPEAKER_01]: We should have asked, why did you feel you had to go ahead with it? [SPEAKER_01]: You hadn't told your family. [SPEAKER_00]: You should have said, yeah, I'm not doing this. [SPEAKER_00]: Make your own statement. [SPEAKER_00]: I will make mine when I am ready to make a statement. [SPEAKER_00]: You could eat this on your own for a while.

[SPEAKER_00]: But tell you feel. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I want to go back to something I forgot. [SPEAKER_01]: When they asked about the friendship, was their leaked footage of Amanda comparing her childhood friendships or friendships has had for longer? [SPEAKER_01]: Am I making that? [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, there was where she was like, no, I would never do this to Katie, because that's my friend since I was in third grade or whatever.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's to me, my interpretation was, that is a real friend of mine. [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I wouldn't do it as to a real friend. [SPEAKER_00]: You were just a coworker that I know. [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's where it came through and I wonder why they could it off. [SPEAKER_01]: And all of this, you know, Andy revealed that Jennifer Lawrence is a person who found out who leaked it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get a chance. [SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't get a chance, but everyone is saying you like, no, it was production and they're just, I don't know, I'll get a chance to go and listen to figure out how that happened. [SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, [SPEAKER_01]: Sierra says, like, West wants to have his last word, like, West wants to embarrass me because he resents me so much, but you did not stop to even consider that this would be a big, fuck you to me, like his with you to embarrass me so have fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: But, I mean, I know everyone's been saying like, oh, she's thinking highly of herself, but when you peel back the layers, like honestly, a matter of did not stop to think, like wait, with everything that went on with Sarah, with everything that happened. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, why would West want to do this?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is gonna be scandalous. [SPEAKER_01]: So what is in it, you sat there when page said, like what's going on, you are just trying to get cloud. [SPEAKER_01]: You see any people call them a cloud chase or you saw what he did to Sarah, but there's some kind of inkling in that regard [SPEAKER_01]: Both of them thought she was disposable.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if you disagree with that, but that is a Plain is day facts to me What did Sierra whether it's anybody even for people sometimes who cheat on people is because you think that person is disposable There's always a point in your life as a human being when you make a choice Before you do something big you whether you try do this or should I do that and if you make the choice to do that at the end of the day You're like if I get caught or something happens [SPEAKER_01]: I'm willing to risk it all and then that moment that person is disposable whether or not you want to label it that or not that is what it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, this is what happens when a pick me gets picked though that the thought of what does this mean for other people in my life and is it's going to hurt some that goes out the window. [SPEAKER_00]: It is this man has picked me and that is all that matters in my life. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going for it because I was picked.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: All that happened here. [SPEAKER_01]: the bright side of the civil lining of all of this is Ben and Bailey are talking civilly to each other. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Ben is like he's going to give himself a quick in the neck. [SPEAKER_01]: Just trying to figure out what's going on in my couch and Bailey's like, yeah, me too.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I have to sit this way because my boobs need to sit pretty well. [SPEAKER_00]: My teeth get ready to fall out. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and the assier, like, what was the hardest scene for her? [SPEAKER_01]: She's crying at this point. [SPEAKER_01]: Remember she told herself she was not going to cry.

[SPEAKER_01]: And she was, like, probably the last scene, you know, saying goodbye, just prop in her friend. [SPEAKER_01]: And it was like a pivotal moment, you know, the new things are going to shift. [SPEAKER_01]: What was going to happen? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, little D. She knows she was actually really saying goodbye.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a friend and all that and forever. [SPEAKER_01]: I got emotional because it was just so sad. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's just, like, Amanda and Wester Stone Cold. [SPEAKER_01]: everyone's tearing up and it was dead and you know it was just chilling I think that's the word it was chilling you know you watch like a documentary and you're like whoa when the murder has come out and all that but that's what was you know very scary about that but we saw a cry we saw a cry in earlier things so there is the possibility to cry and that did not happen [SPEAKER_00]: You know, didn't happen, you know, I watch a lot of true crime stuff, and there's a show.

[SPEAKER_00]: It might be signs of a psychopath, I think, where you see people talk about the horrible things that they've done, and they do it with absolutely no emotion at all. [SPEAKER_00]: It is as though they are describing like walking to the mailbox and coming back. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's how I felt watching this from just like you don't you don't have any emotional connection to anyone on this stage except West.

[SPEAKER_00]: And even that is barely a connection like you are a detached person. [SPEAKER_01]: They don't have chemistry. [SPEAKER_00]: None. [SPEAKER_00]: They don't have chemistry. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine what it's like to watch them flirt. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't know that looks like it's bad in each other's mouth.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, spit my mouth with how you guys flirt huh? [SPEAKER_00]: That's what you get down. [SPEAKER_00]: It's fucking gross. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Amanda's response is like, she knows she's fucked up an incredible friendship for the rest of her life. [SPEAKER_01]: No matter what happens for her on West, you will always have to live with that.

[SPEAKER_01]: She will walk away doing a lot of thinking and reflecting and thinking about herself. [SPEAKER_01]: And we know the results of that. [SPEAKER_01]: They went to elite together and he's fighting. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's still a good. [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. [SPEAKER_01]: Who's so? [SPEAKER_01]: Lansing was like, you're a really dope.

[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think were going to happen? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm still so baffled by this. [SPEAKER_01]: And then I know it was like, basically saying I wasn't thinking. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I wasn't cloud nine and Sierra points out again. [SPEAKER_01]: I was disposable. [SPEAKER_01]: You were not thinking.

[SPEAKER_01]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: just in your stomach. [SPEAKER_01]: And this is where we find out that he's best friend hooked up with his ex. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, this is something. [SPEAKER_01]: What's that saying? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, like, you know, the friendship here means so much to me. [SPEAKER_01]: Shut up.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, they don't. [SPEAKER_01]: They don't. [SPEAKER_00]: They don't mean shit. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, friends, you're hanging out with the lie to you and party with you. [SPEAKER_01]: That's who you consider friends. [SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, no, man, it's like, this is too much. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, are you guys on beta blockers?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because everyone is emotional, everyone is going through it. [SPEAKER_01]: And you're just like, nothing. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you basically wreaked havoc on this friend group. [SPEAKER_01]: And then he's saying, looking to the side, it's just like he was agitated, looking to that's West.

[SPEAKER_01]: West is looking to the side, and then he's like, I'm talking to you. [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, oh, yeah, I know. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to be composed. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, this is scared. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, yeah, I did drugs, but I'm sorry, like it's not reading that I actually care, but this matter, no, this matters to me, like I'm like, this is awkward.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is so. [SPEAKER_00]: None of his matters to you. [SPEAKER_00]: None of his matters. [SPEAKER_00]: It never has mattered. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like what's our matter in now. [SPEAKER_00]: This is, this is so bad. [SPEAKER_00]: Just bad. [SPEAKER_01]: And then I can't remember who asked as maybe Lindsay and she was like, or Andy Amanda was this worth it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Who was it Mia or Bailey please say no please say no please say no I think it was Bailey she does not say no instead she actually says oh I wish I could have both and I'm like you know what that's it that it's no. [SPEAKER_01]: It's overdoing. [SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing here. [SPEAKER_01]: It's over.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's it. [SPEAKER_00]: Just let them be whatever they want to do. [SPEAKER_01]: Then they say, are you in love? [SPEAKER_01]: They must say, oh no, too early. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, when I'm doing that. [SPEAKER_01]: And just as like, he told me, he thinks he loves her. [SPEAKER_01]: That's when it's time line too.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Carl, I've so fact, Carl is like, if we're not going to talk about soft bar, I'm going to speak. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, hey, you still are going to be with him after hearing all these things after you've seen what he did to your best friend. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's Amanda is like, okay, heard.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, wait. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's like, yes, I still am going to be with him after all this. [SPEAKER_01]: I think the dumbest thing also is that Amanda's thing is that West stood for her, West was always by her side and was doing all that for her, but West has only been there for like what three seasons?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just third season, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the Carl has been there longer. [SPEAKER_01]: Sierra has been there longer. [SPEAKER_01]: They were there for you through the hook. [SPEAKER_01]: So what, it's like, Carl has just fought Kyle. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Carl, Carl almost fist fought Kyle after he insulted you.

[SPEAKER_00]: And like, yeah, no man has ever had my back before. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, Carl did. [SPEAKER_00]: He just didn't want to have sex with you afterward. [SPEAKER_00]: There is the difference. [SPEAKER_01]: That is such a sad thing when you're worth his measure [SPEAKER_01]: or it doesn't, I guess, but it's just not even the quality of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just whether it happens or not. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, stick it in. [SPEAKER_01]: So what says like he's committed to making the effort. [SPEAKER_01]: Not committed to the relationship. [SPEAKER_01]: He's committed to making the effort. [SPEAKER_01]: Guys, words mean things. [SPEAKER_01]: You got to take people for who they are.

[SPEAKER_01]: What they say? [SPEAKER_00]: He said I can't promise to try, but I'm going to try to try. [SPEAKER_00]: not a year. [SPEAKER_01]: I just wish we could go back to the early days. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, wait, hold up early days. [SPEAKER_00]: I need to open this. [SPEAKER_01]: Eddie says six weeks ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: What? [SPEAKER_01]: What are the early days? [SPEAKER_01]: But also, it's an inclination into, we're stressed right now. [SPEAKER_01]: So we just want to go back to the early days. [SPEAKER_01]: And Lindsay's like, the honeymoon thing is not another one, another man. [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay's just tired of it all at this point.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's basically like, I wish we can go back to where we were just lying about everything and no one knew when you were my secrets Like it could be go back to that please no one knowing what I'm doing [SPEAKER_01]: lying is my comfort zone and secrecy might be West King not King, but he gets off on it because we'd see our everything happened off camera, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: With that's when all the things happened We know was off camera the whole thing with Amanda's off camera because maybe he's trying to see when I come back on camera What can I hide what can I get away with? [SPEAKER_01]: I just it's a lot [SPEAKER_01]: Lindsay kept saying, um, you're lying.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm over it. [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like stop. [SPEAKER_01]: Andy asked about the Did you really say act like you like me and Amanda is like, oh, I'm sure it ended that way, but it wasn't the full statement. [SPEAKER_01]: It was taken out of context. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, again, they think we're done.

[SPEAKER_01]: The camera jump a trauma was on you. [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I guess I'm idiot. [SPEAKER_00]: So I believe you like what are you talking about? [SPEAKER_00]: You said it clear as day and then you like Roger eyes. [SPEAKER_00]: So like we don't [SPEAKER_01]: And also I widen and he asked like oh, how come this happened on a big day for Sierra was that coincidences to swear in your dog's life that it was just missing and so [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Ben spoke, whoo, he got his voice back.

[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't even believe it was like Ben wants to say something. [SPEAKER_01]: There are the people out. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what Ben said. [SPEAKER_01]: Ben said he broke the friend group that where he was a leader of the pack. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, there were all boys and now it's fractured and all that and Wes says that today I have learned that there were consequences for my actions today.

[SPEAKER_00]: is the first time in my whole life, something bad has happened to me. [SPEAKER_00]: It's basically what he said. [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone is just like, you guys keep saying you have conversation. [SPEAKER_01]: So the thought process is that there was thought putting to this. [SPEAKER_01]: But the more you guys talk, the more it sounds like it was just like, hey, whatever happens, it is what it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like, we're just gonna bring it. [SPEAKER_01]: But anyone else, and it's like it's okay. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, today he learned that what he did was back. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, they take another break. [SPEAKER_01]: And then we see Amanda and Kyle Hugg and Kyle's heart is just a beating like really, really fast.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then Kyle sets crying and throw up and And then there's like, you know, hold it in, hold it in. [SPEAKER_01]: I think she holds herself from crying, but almost part. [SPEAKER_01]: We got nothing from her. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, nothing. [SPEAKER_01]: Lending me. [SPEAKER_01]: I have a moment in the back and they're just like, I don't [SPEAKER_01]: I got nothing like there's no clarity.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing like I don't understand what's coming what's going on And when Lindsey comes back on stage with her wine glass, she's like Andy I feel like there has not be clarity and it's like what we've been here for like 14 hours Like yeah, and I right now I'm a little bit buzz from this wine.

[SPEAKER_01]: I brought on stage with me And I got something to say yeah, like there's just some wrap it up like I got dressed up for this shit What so [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, she's like, she goes straight to the point. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, I don't think they realize like, how we affected people's friend groups, people's careers, the livelihood and this day has just been overshadowed by this mess right here.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, and it was like, okay, let's start over from beginning and he gets all his cards. [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, welcome to the summer house, Rhea. [SPEAKER_00]: 40,000 guards. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right, so that's about it. [SPEAKER_01]: That's how they wrap things up. [SPEAKER_01]: And they are going to cheers by getting Girl Scout cookies because Sierra raised a lot of money during the whole thing when she wasn't speaking before she said the summer salt emoji raised 160,000 for the Girl Scout's true, which is great.

[SPEAKER_01]: So they bring out the cookies and they all take it. [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone else eats it immediately. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't recall that they were going to cheers, [SPEAKER_01]: I don't eat it. [SPEAKER_01]: We're still going to cheers. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, oh, oh, man. [SPEAKER_00]: So don't eat.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we have to cheers West. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, this is the rest of your life, man. [SPEAKER_00]: You signed up for this. [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but yeah, Andy does say this was the most fun season, but also the least fun reunion. [SPEAKER_01]: And oh, they did chairs and then they chairs with the grocery cookies, but I thought Jesse shoved the whole thing in his mouth before anyways, and we're always doing it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, it feels already like so. [SPEAKER_01]: They do do a group photo. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the thing, like unless you're a Garcelle and she walks away, which rightfully so, some of the else walk away before. [SPEAKER_01]: But for the most part, they do take their group photos part of their job and they do that.

[SPEAKER_01]: They just have to be conscious of the placement. [SPEAKER_01]: So who stands besides who? [SPEAKER_01]: And then we get a next week bonus. [SPEAKER_01]: And then we see them talking in an apartment. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, 60, 60 minutes, somehow style. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's where the West is like, do you want the honest truth even if it's going to hurt?

[SPEAKER_01]: If you're capable of it, sure, we'll take whatever you serve me. [SPEAKER_00]: Why to me some more please, West, that's what I wanted. [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't had enough of that. [SPEAKER_01]: And then he says like, I have liked her for a really, really long time. [SPEAKER_01]: And I need to know when this really, really long time was, because does it overlap with Sierra?

[SPEAKER_01]: Does it overlap with the second time when you kiss her? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is going on? [SPEAKER_01]: And I cannot believe that we did not talk about him rubbing his hand on her thigh in the middle of the whole group of people. [SPEAKER_00]: Right after he wrapped me so his girlfriend kiss her husband, he's not a man to kiss Kyle that triggered him and now he's like, well, I have to show a man to that I can't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is I am of the opinion he has wanted to this since day one of being in summer house. [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think that was probably an important thing. [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the thing about shooting the reunion before it ends. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind waiting a week or two to get it all together.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we can ask the questions and then get it in there. [SPEAKER_01]: And just maybe it was in there. [SPEAKER_01]: This is not way someone didn't ask about that. [SPEAKER_01]: But I just thought that was really important during this segment where it's like, if nothing was going on, what was this reaction?

[SPEAKER_01]: So if you think that we can see through whatever lens, what was this reaction? [SPEAKER_01]: No one haven't asked. [SPEAKER_01]: You whispered in her ear twice. [SPEAKER_01]: What were you saying? [SPEAKER_01]: It seemed rather intimate. [SPEAKER_01]: You know? [SPEAKER_00]: What was that about?

[SPEAKER_00]: We'll never know. [SPEAKER_01]: So we're seeing that and then we see Lindsey telling Amanda, what was she telling Amanda that he something about Mia? [SPEAKER_01]: No Mia and Sierra were together. [SPEAKER_01]: with him when talking together. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Lindsey was selling Amanda.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's going to do this to you to you. [SPEAKER_01]: He was lying about this. [SPEAKER_01]: So either way, we thought we were done, but now we have. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know what it was? [SPEAKER_00]: It was Lindsey saying he's telling everybody that you were the one that started this, that you were the one that approached him and pursued him and she's like, that's not true.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, well, he's saying it. [SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to do it to you too. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: That was it. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, I got it wrapped up. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm just sitting and waiting July is in a few weeks.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's so opposed to start filming what are we doing. [SPEAKER_01]: I said this again over on bitches better podcast that I'm not saying we should reward them. [SPEAKER_01]: But if they add them to in the city, I'm just curious for what the camera is going to show us about the relationship.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, all we see are people taking photos and all that, but the camera never lies and we see stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be under pressure to show that there's so much in love, but there's only so much you can hide from the camera, that I'm like, add them in the city, let's see what happens, but the problem is who are they going to film with in the city?

[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have to add West friends. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want that. [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, it's going to be the two of them and Katie Deluca and nobody else and no one's going to watch that. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: So I do want to see what the dynamics of their relationship is.

[SPEAKER_01]: I hate the curiosities get the best out of me, but yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I do want to see them be miserable because they're going to be fucking miserable because they don't like each other. [SPEAKER_00]: They got hot in each other, another stock. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll give you both things for joining me, Brian, [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, I am at MAPS version.

[SPEAKER_00]: We are covering right now. [SPEAKER_00]: What city are we even doing anymore? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: We're covering MAPS. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Boston, Boston, with MAPS shock and losing all of them. [SPEAKER_00]: I, it has been a long couple days for your boy.

[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't recorded our episode for this week yet. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you can listen to us at MAPS version, talk about that. [SPEAKER_00]: They are still on the honey moons. [SPEAKER_00]: Alyssa is fully crashing out. [SPEAKER_00]: You can follow us on Instagram and Threads at Mass Virgin and join our Facebook group, the Maps Virgin Fan Club.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be a decent amount of love Island talk in there while that's going on too. [SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to talk about how gross Gabriela is hopping over there. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, love island, we're all insane. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, guys, you can find me on social media all of the social media, whatever social media of your choice.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's all the same. [SPEAKER_01]: The handle is Tain Talks, T-A-Y-N-E-T-A-L-K-S. [SPEAKER_01]: Please give me a 5 star rating and upper podcast and Spotify and stay subscribed so you don't miss out [SPEAKER_01]: On any new episodes, Brian and I also cover Love is Blind, all of the countries and we're waiting for the next announcement and currently we are covering welcome to Pat Phil season eight and I am covering a couple therapy season five with Jen.

[SPEAKER_01]: So check them all out on there. [SPEAKER_01]: Until next time, guys.

Summer House Reunion Part 3 w/Brian

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