Summer House S10 Finale/In The City Premiere w/Brian

[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, everybody. [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to another episode of All To Call. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host, Tane, here today to talk about summer house, finale, and in the city premiere. [SPEAKER_00]: Here with me is Brian from Mass Virgin, Hi, Brian. [SPEAKER_01]: What up? [SPEAKER_01]: I am ready for a new show on Bravo.

[SPEAKER_01]: And a decent premiere. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it's not on par with Rhode Island's premiere, but it's a pretty good premiere. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, we weren't even going to do this, but we're like, we have to, like, we have to, like, we have to. [SPEAKER_01]: We have to. [SPEAKER_00]: It's in us, we have to.

[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like a two hour summer house, though, just not in the ham, and new people. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, but just strangers. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's interesting, seamless. [SPEAKER_00]: But now it looks like New York, the valley. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, which I just saw.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't this not confirmed, but I believe I saw that Bravo did not pick up the valley or vendor pump rules and then sold them to Sony so I don't know what that means Sony just owns them and is going to keep them on Bravo, but Sony's paying the bills or what that means for the future of those shows, but I guess neither one of them got mentioned that the upfront stuff they just had so I don't know what that means going forward.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was told that we'll not vent from rules that they don't talk about shows that are on air because they didn't mention Beverly Hills either. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was thinking to at first, but yeah, I don't think it was Du Moah, so I don't think it was like necessarily a reputable source, but I did see somebody say that they both got sold the Sony.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, do you consider Du Moah a reputable? [SPEAKER_01]: More so than just like some random account that I saw. [SPEAKER_01]: Please do well as like imaging and graphics at this point. [SPEAKER_00]: Do what I was like somebody said. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this person said it doesn't matter for sure They said it was that it's true.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think this was that's what I saw So don't don't listen to me. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what they were talking about [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, thankfully, I don't really care. [SPEAKER_00]: There's enough content to type me over until they figure out what they want. [SPEAKER_00]: And we're at the point where, at least for me, there's no show that it's like, oh my god, I must have it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The clips are like unreal, but just like the show or the season. [SPEAKER_00]: So, I will be covering that season. [SPEAKER_00]: All the episodes dropped all nine or eight on Showtime, but I will be covering it week to week. [SPEAKER_00]: So, look out for that, starting next week. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we're starting with summer house.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is interesting because the season recap, I found interesting. [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to see what they were going to highlight, because usually previously on kind of tells you what they're going to show on the next episode. [SPEAKER_00]: So in this season recap, and they're choosing Lindsey talking about Carl, [SPEAKER_00]: Sierra and West, of course, been saying, I don't want to be with his Mrs.

[SPEAKER_01]: So... Somebody does. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, the demise of Amanda and Kyle's relationship and Sierra's separation idea and all that makes sense by the time you get to the end of the episode and you see the transition to in the city, these are the things that they're setting us up for.

[SPEAKER_00]: their last party is an appraisal party. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking that it's, isn't it hot? [SPEAKER_00]: We love the stuff that we're working on. [SPEAKER_01]: I have that question so many times. [SPEAKER_01]: When I see Sierra in a full plague rat get up, that I know has to weigh 40 pounds, and me 30 degrees hotter inside of, I often have this thought.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm a sweater. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I am a proud American bald and so when I start to sweat, nothing catches you to kind of just rolls right down and doesn't stop. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, I would be outside for 12 seconds if I'm dripping in sweat. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like it wasn't like a fool.

[SPEAKER_00]: They get up. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And then some of them were like, for boots since I'm like, it's a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm beginning to understand why West and Amanda were able to hide in plain sight because we've talked about this before. [SPEAKER_00]: These people have no boundaries.

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess we watched Amanda kissing Jesse on the lips. [SPEAKER_00]: Saying, say, I love you. [SPEAKER_01]: Say, I love you. [SPEAKER_01]: I love you. [SPEAKER_01]: And for everybody, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: There's aar. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well, I would never, I would never have been. [SPEAKER_00]: It close and all, but I just, I don't, but here's the thing that I was thinking about when Amanda tells us about in Italy, when Ben Kyle herself and a bunch of friends when skinny dipping.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, that's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think anything. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that, that doesn't, that's just, I mean, yeah, some people like to be naked, you know, so that that to me is different if they were. [SPEAKER_01]: like doing naked, twister, that would be a different story.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: But like, the key dipping is just, you guys happen to be in the same body of water neck yet. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's not that big of a deal to me. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: All right. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's on this scene. [SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's better than because that's my mindset is that it's better than kissing your friend on the lips.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I don't I had never kissed any of my friends wives on the cheek. [SPEAKER_01]: So much that's like on the lips Why I say I love you? [SPEAKER_01]: Like I wouldn't be getting so much side-eye on a second That's what elevated it. [SPEAKER_00]: Say in the eyes. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, as they kissed him right before he has a romantic moment We're the arriving bodies as they're here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh and then drunk [SPEAKER_00]: And then Sierra and Kyle had a conversation, it really was sweet, it seemed honest and it seemed like it's not like if Sierra's having a conversation with Craig, back in the day, I just I couldn't tell if Sierra liked to cry or not. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she seemed annoyed by him, but she generally likes Kyle.

[SPEAKER_00]: It turns to a baby when there's alcohol in his system. [SPEAKER_00]: There's something so off-putting about that. [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's like, and then he's just whimbing. [SPEAKER_00]: He's not making his point that he may have that may be valid, but he's just like, when it's not fair.

[SPEAKER_00]: And when you're coming at me and it's like, oh, you're 43. [SPEAKER_01]: the shit is gross. [SPEAKER_01]: That shit is gross. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I had one friend who was like that. [SPEAKER_01]: We are no longer friends, largely because of that. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like I'm not putting up with this every time we go to the bar.

[SPEAKER_00]: But somewhere in the conversation, Sierra does say, for you to go after your best friend. [SPEAKER_00]: And my question to you, Brian, is Carl Kyle's best friend? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy, I don't really know. [SPEAKER_01]: I have a best friend. [SPEAKER_01]: I know that I am not his best friend.

[SPEAKER_01]: His best friend is, no, it's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_01]: We, no, it's, I have, it doesn't bother me in the least. [SPEAKER_01]: We met the first day of sixth grade. [SPEAKER_01]: We've been very close ever since then. [SPEAKER_01]: His best friend lived with him for like seven years.

[SPEAKER_01]: All through college and then for years after college, their friendship is closer than mine. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not threatened by that or bother by that. [SPEAKER_01]: I also lived with them for a few years, but like after that happened. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I could see a scenario where Kyle is Carl's best friend, but Carl is not necessarily Kyle's best friend.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he doesn't treat him like a best friend, but I do feel like Carl does treat Kyle that way. [SPEAKER_01]: And the way that Carl got hurt by Kyle's perceived or actual lack of support over soft bar to me is like, yeah, because that's your best friend. [SPEAKER_01]: Like you want your best friend [SPEAKER_01]: You know, even if it's like symbolic, you want him there.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't feel like I don't, I don't think Kyle would say that Carl is his best friend for real. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I mean, one, I was about to say, teach me a ways, but I don't know if I want to learn it. [SPEAKER_00]: No, my best friend has to be my best friend and I'm yours. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm making sure that my best friend is my best friend.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what? [SPEAKER_00]: I could never. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not being weird. [SPEAKER_01]: I, I stood in his wedding, I was not his best fan. [SPEAKER_01]: His best friend, his best man. [SPEAKER_01]: I was right next to him. [SPEAKER_00]: It could not be me. [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, it could not be that I'm a child.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, it legit does not bother me. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, no, you all have something different because you guys live together for all those years. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was out of state. [SPEAKER_00]: I know some people, I know some people who think that having best friends at a certain age is childish too.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, no, I don't think it's for different people. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: My best friend has to be my best friend. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's interesting because I don't know because I was thinking about it, right? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that either of them we should know who their close friends are by now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: We've never seen Carl or Kyle be like, oh, this is my friend. [SPEAKER_00]: Kyle has a kind of saying Kyle and Carl is hard. [SPEAKER_00]: Kyle has a lot of friends. [SPEAKER_00]: We know that Kyle is also Leo. [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have to be deep.

[SPEAKER_00]: It could be like a surface friendship. [SPEAKER_00]: He has a lot of like buddy buddies that he knows around. [SPEAKER_00]: But who are like his day ones? [SPEAKER_00]: I do think Carl is one of them. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And I agree that Kyle is one of Carl's. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, we need to move on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because, also, does he have like friend friends? [SPEAKER_00]: I know Lindsay, but I'm like, over the years have we seen anyone that, oh, I'm just going to do a pick up scene and talk to my friend. [SPEAKER_00]: We've been friends for years and, you know, things like that we've never seen that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because in the same vein of we want to say, oh, Kyle didn't do this, oh, invest in software. [SPEAKER_00]: Kyle was going to make Kyle a flower man or whatever in his wedding. [SPEAKER_00]: Like let's do that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, by the hands of Lindsey, but he was already happy. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, if my wife was like, your best friend has to have this demoted role in a wedding, I'm like, no, no, I don't put my foot down for anything ever, but like this is something I'm going to have to stand on. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're close friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just hesitant to say like they're best friends. [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I think they're close friends. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Lindsey wants to choose because she feels triggered by her running with Carl's mom. [SPEAKER_00]: and she pulls them aside and was like, come on, let's go talk.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's crazy to me that they have not had a composite, well, it's at that crazy for two years. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not that crazy because it's not just a breakup, she went and got into a relationship, how to baby, like, when is a good time to have that conversation, when your focus is on, you know, the life you're bringing to this world, and then, you know, raising the child.

[SPEAKER_00]: thing that kind of makes him a nice guy is also his downfall, it is not cute to not men up. [SPEAKER_00]: It is not cute to just have the balls to do things. [SPEAKER_00]: So in relation to how he handled the thing with Kyle. [SPEAKER_00]: in relation to how he handled things with Lindsay, because yes, Lindsay is allowed to one.

[SPEAKER_00]: Lindsay, yes, is a scoring woman, but I will agree with her that it was really quite embarrassing the way that he ended their engagement. [SPEAKER_00]: They were not meant to be together, but she's right. [SPEAKER_00]: We've been friends for how many years. [SPEAKER_00]: You could easily have broken up with me without the cameras.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I do not believe Carl when he says he did not go into that conversation planning to break up like you did and it's okay that you did like y'all would have gotten divorced by now had that marriage have gone through guys were not meant to be together it was a bad situation. [SPEAKER_00]: Let me throw in something, maybe he went in there not wanting to break up, but Carl is a kind of person who do all the things and lay all the breadcrumbs for you to do the breaking up and be like, well, you said it, I agree not me, but he went in there to still stall and be like, I don't know, this is not working, this is because Carl never actually says what he wants.

[SPEAKER_00]: He never acted as verbalizes. [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't know how to communicate. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't maybe in the 1% He wanted it to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: That's not to say he didn't want it to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he wasn't going there. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah He was desperate for it to end but I also think knowing Lindsay the way that he knows her and how she was feeling in that moment He could not have thought if I lay the bread crumbs she will break up with me like that was never going to happen [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yes, you could have handled it a lot better in the breakup, but I also understand why it took this long to have this conversation because [SPEAKER_01]: That first year after the breakup, Lindsey was sending every signal of, it's trying to talk to me, I might pull a knife.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm not, I'm not trying to talk to you. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm being mean to you on purpose so that you know I hate your guts right now. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And then that second summer, it's like, well, okay, like, still not really getting any kind of, even out like this all far along, she's being petty as hell.

[SPEAKER_01]: And like, he's a better man than me because I'd be petty right back and he was not that. [SPEAKER_01]: But like, she was giving every signal that she was not ready for this conversation. [SPEAKER_01]: And now she's giving every signal that she is and he's like, OK, great. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell this conversation.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I'd be afraid to do it if I was him and she was acting that way towards me. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just it, but even if she wasn't that way car will still not bring up a conversation, he still didn't. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's probably true with Kyle everyone else heard about it all the time, until he finally brought it up and even when he brought it up with Kyle, he didn't say everything.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just, it's his flaw, it's his flaw really, it's like, he just doesn't know how to communicate. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if it's a case of, if anyone watches some of the house from season one, this is not the car, that this is, this is not my day. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if it's like the adjustment to being sober.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like all the while you've had all this, it's not just liquid encouragement. [SPEAKER_00]: other encouragement. [SPEAKER_01]: There was, there was, shower law. [SPEAKER_00]: There was encouragement. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, now you don't know how to face life is like starting over and how to communicate, but it's a skill that you need to learn.

[SPEAKER_00]: If he ever has been in a relationship, which, you know, y'all know where I stand on that. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, he's going to have to communicate with his partner at some point because even with Bailey, he knows the way she stands over friends, but we're not friends, but then you fit like a USB and but you're not like he just doesn't know how to communicate and [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're going to need to be in terms of being like a successful business owner.

[SPEAKER_01]: You have to do what they have this skill. [SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be times you have conflicts with employees, probably conflicts with suppliers and vendors and stuff like you're going to have to learn how to speak up for yourself and assert yourself without. [SPEAKER_01]: It going completely left to the point that you're like screaming and I kind of think that's what he's afraid of because we saw how he got with Luke when he like a soldier himself and all of a sudden he was ready to fight Luke so I think for him it's like it's kind of all or nothing and I'd rather it just be nothing than risk it being all again.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good point. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I know what lies within me. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, the things, some things come naturally to people, some things don't. [SPEAKER_00]: So he has to actively work towards not bringing out that part of him. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, I just don't wanna unleash that.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll just rather stay safe than do that. [SPEAKER_00]: Because on the flip side, he has a great podcast. [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't involve conflict, but he's talking about something he experiences and he's able to articulate that very well. [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, the beauty of life, you know, okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, how thanks her for diffusing this situation during the great fight, um, the week before. [SPEAKER_00]: People have been talking about, oh, I think I want them back together. [SPEAKER_00]: My friend was like, I think they will get back together. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, no, I don't want them back together.

[SPEAKER_00]: My friends, maybe back together is friends, maybe, but they're not compatible. [SPEAKER_00]: Fundamentally, or whatever, they're not. [SPEAKER_01]: I guess for the month of measure is a friendship pair again. [SPEAKER_01]: I would love that. [SPEAKER_01]: They're fun to watch together and I don't like Lindsey.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know there's a mob curing corpses and pitchforks on the way to my house right now because I said that out loud. [SPEAKER_01]: My wife and I have both been like we don't like her. [SPEAKER_01]: So I like her with coral though as long as they can be like fun together. [SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, no, but I need them to be fun together again.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was funny when she said, well, I have to initiate the conversation. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Carl, you basically fainted around me. [SPEAKER_00]: in the flashback to any early in the face for you proposed when we spoke about when she ran into his mom at the time I did not understand why she was so upset but thinking about it I guess I would be aggravated if someone was acting like nothing happened that usually annoys me I hate when people do stuff and then you come around and act like oh nothing happened we cool we good so [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the mom said what she had to say because again, understandably that was her son.

[SPEAKER_00]: She was taking, you know, um, his side and they went to the wedding. [SPEAKER_00]: that never happened, but I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I apparently Kyle went to that wedding too, so I don't know if she's mad at him, but she had a relationship with Carl's mom, and, you know, Lindsey has mommy issues, and it's just like we're banding her, and there's a whole complex thing about that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I also think that if Carl's mom didn't come up to her, I think that will also be a thing if she ignored her. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it was down if you did, down if you didn't. [SPEAKER_00]: So I only, it's the only, it's the situation. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: The only proper way she would accept that is if she came to her like, hat and hand, apologize for her behavior, and was like, please forgive me.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if it's not that, then she's like, how dare you address me like this? [SPEAKER_00]: Lindsey is still very deeply hurt by that breakup because she said it again and you know I do think also Carl needed the cameras for courage. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I will come to see him and he's comfortable with that But Carl apologized and I Maybe I'm being fooled.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's felt like a very genuine apology. [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she accepted it as such [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and she took it and all, and you know what's funny? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember them as friends. [SPEAKER_00]: I just remember them as exes. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm similar and my problem is anything that happened before like 2021 I don't remember much of it at all just in life because that lockdown did a number on me especially because we went into it with a kid who had just turned one and by the time we were out of it he was a full on kid so like that whole area is kind of a blur for me I also don't remember them just being like [SPEAKER_01]: Buddy buddy best friends like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it happened. [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't rip her in. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because when they say dating, they're like, oh, we're so close. [SPEAKER_00]: We live in this apartment. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, huh. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. [SPEAKER_00]: You tell me what to think.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll think it. [SPEAKER_00]: It probably do. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's happening next season. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if this show is coming back or not. [SPEAKER_00]: Was it announced in the up front? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: There's in the city now. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how well that's going to do. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what this whole scandal is going to do to the show. [SPEAKER_00]: The dynamic's maybe the focus is just not calendar, really. [SPEAKER_00]: We need to stop using them as anchors.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've done it in some of my house. [SPEAKER_00]: We've done it on winter house. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's not do it in the city. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Find something else, but where would [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean a couple things number one the valley could be the model here because Jackson Brittany were not like V star as of the valley They were on the show and we got a lot of like footage of Jack's being an asshole But they weren't the whole story didn't like revolve around them with summer house does Yeah, so I think you could pick people that have interesting enough things going on in the city to have them be the focal point [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then you could just have Kyle and Amanda as not side characters like the B story line. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And when they finally end Kyle dating again would be a fun story to watch. [SPEAKER_01]: How is he going to do that? [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like I wouldn't be able to date somebody again.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now I have no idea what I'm doing anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: Kyle. [SPEAKER_00]: Brian, why do you wait? [SPEAKER_00]: But can I ask why do you you can't compare yourself to these people? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, it's not anybody that's been in a relationship for that long, it's hard to just like get right back into the dating scene like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I disagree one. [SPEAKER_00]: He's not been faithful the whole time. [SPEAKER_00]: So no, it's not cheating. [SPEAKER_01]: That's true. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he's a DJ with the club. [SPEAKER_01]: That's yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It's very good. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's a DJ. [SPEAKER_00]: Three.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's Kyle. [SPEAKER_00]: He's been partying. [SPEAKER_00]: This we have no boundaries. [SPEAKER_00]: They've been hugging up doing like no. [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. [SPEAKER_00]: It would be very hard. [SPEAKER_00]: And if you see celebrities, the overlap is crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: They don't care.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: They break up to like we broke up. [SPEAKER_00]: Who is it? [SPEAKER_00]: Just got up and just broke up how many years of marriage? [SPEAKER_00]: She got a new boyfriend that's younger and like two seconds. [SPEAKER_01]: Amy, you know my social life is very different.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you make this comparisons on like Brian, they're they're in a different Completely different world. [SPEAKER_00]: It is nothing. [SPEAKER_01]: It's all very true. [SPEAKER_00]: So Carl is all heard. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're the ones I think Carl and Amanda have a higher chance of getting back together, which is a bad idea, but whatever Never happens [SPEAKER_00]: But we'll see so I don't know Carl, but it used all this time to get out whatever you need to get out not get back into a marriage and set cheating again because I don't I don't understand your single now do whatever the hell you want to do and get out your system [SPEAKER_00]: Because the problem with Amanda, I don't know why I'm talking about her now, is that she thinks that she's not good enough for anybody else.

[SPEAKER_00]: So when this thing breaks up with Wes, she's going to run back to what's familiar. [SPEAKER_00]: And whatever else happens for some reason, Kyle is all Amanda is great. [SPEAKER_00]: You can have sex with my. [SPEAKER_00]: quote unquote he called West is best friend got you y'all need to stop reality team West is not your best friend guy meet someone for two days and they're like oh you're my best friend oh my best friend like stop like that's weird friends we're cool we enjoy each other's company but best friends please okay good co-workers yeah all right let me take a break and we will be right back all right [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I cannot explain to myself or to anyone else why I like Sabrina and Sierra's friendship.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can understand if people find Sabrina annoying, but I just, there's something about her, there's someone for everyone. [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, we're not always everyone's cup of tea. [SPEAKER_00]: That's just life. [SPEAKER_00]: And I know Sabrina's not my cup of tea, but I am like amused by her.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I just like the fact that she's friends with Sierra, like I'd rather, [SPEAKER_00]: her, I like her friendship with Sarah that I liked Sarah's friendship with Paige. [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I thought, yeah, I was a kind of loser. [SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't a good balance to see her as disposition, where see her is already not open, and see her is just like taking a while, like she's interested in people, it helps, it pages personality helped her to exclude people and to be clickish.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sabrina's, and she said it, she's also Sabrina, like, you've helped me, you know, to be open, [SPEAKER_00]: like it's okay to have a crush and like not a West but okay but the juxtaposition of Sierra saying oh it's I'm learning to have a crush and be okay with it as West is telling Ben like tell Sabrina to stop pushing me and Sierra together I'm not ready I don't you know want to be a boyfriend I can't go all in and I'm like oh [SPEAKER_01]: I hate him so much.

[SPEAKER_01]: That first of all, with Sabrina, I will say this. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like her. [SPEAKER_01]: She is weird energy to me. [SPEAKER_01]: However, I am clearly wrong in my assessment because everyone else in the house loves Sabrina. [SPEAKER_01]: They all get excited when she shows up. [SPEAKER_01]: No one has any beef with her.

[SPEAKER_01]: They have beef with Dera for some reason, and they all like Sabrina. [SPEAKER_01]: So like, clearly Sabrina is... [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder why. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're all put to and do together. [SPEAKER_01]: But with the whole West and Sierra situation vis-a-vis Sabrina and Ben, I got pissed off.

[SPEAKER_01]: because West has spent the entire summer like basically begging for another chance with Sierra. [SPEAKER_01]: You're over here with a friend. [SPEAKER_01]: You're leg on her. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, but that's not, I don't keep my friends like that. [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_00]: Remember there's no boundaries.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying like, he claims as friends, right? [SPEAKER_00]: But if you love everyone, he pulled her chair, rubbed his face, you know, and it's up later. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and now that you have the door open a crack and she's and you know she feels this way about you This is not some secret where she's been hiding her feelings now that she's finally like, you know what?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe like oh whoa whoa whoa whoa No one said I like you were anything and just like this this is your fucking problem This is actually what Darra said about you West is great until you start dating him [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and we talked about the last time where I said like West lives for the thrill of it all like this is a rush Oh, I can go with my miss's wife and now I don't want any more.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's I'm bored No, it's just so you get it. [SPEAKER_01]: You grow up, man. [SPEAKER_01]: You guys talk about it like that. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and he says the last thing I want is for her to be heartbroken [SPEAKER_00]: I said out loud. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the last thing you want and my wife lost her shit laughing No, that's the last thing you want obviously because you did it [SPEAKER_00]: I believe it's number one and the bullet point.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I want her to be heartbroken. [SPEAKER_00]: And this goes back to the preview that we saw of the reunion where she's like, he's dating you to spite me. [SPEAKER_00]: Which I think she said that wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, you know, some people are like, get over it, why would he do it?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you're thinking so much of yourself. [SPEAKER_00]: Not necessarily that. [SPEAKER_00]: Wes has made it very clear that he's resented her for all the hate that he's getting. [SPEAKER_00]: human beings always want to put a face to whatever emotion instead of like looking inward and for him that face was Sierra.

[SPEAKER_00]: He did what he did but let's not, let's forget that he had a New York Times article in Teller face to face. [SPEAKER_00]: We saw in camera where she said you can have an out like you don't have to like I'm catching you said no you took her to your farm you took her to your family again which means nothing to these guys.

[SPEAKER_00]: But even when they had the race conversation he's comment was like I got so many comments that said that I was my family He's been holding this like why am I the bad guy like how can I do this when he intentionally kissed somebody else while she was there you told her My ex or whoever I dated is right there and then you're like oh, man.

[SPEAKER_00]: She was there. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what I didn't even know that No, so you knew some way [SPEAKER_00]: not to spite her, but to make her feel what you felt. [SPEAKER_00]: You, because people's reality is what their reality is. [SPEAKER_00]: You felt like you were humiliated or you were made to be the bad guy or whatever it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: You just went in here to feel some kind of pain. [SPEAKER_00]: Because honestly, West, you can get any girl you want. [SPEAKER_00]: You kind of fooled people while some people and everyone thinks what you were a great guy. [SPEAKER_00]: Me and the episode at some point says, I came in ready to hate this guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I see what she sees in him. [SPEAKER_00]: He's just charming and you can't help yourself. [SPEAKER_00]: So dating Amanda, honestly, is intentional. [SPEAKER_00]: Like this, for Amanda, actually, I don't even think you was intentional because Amanda, God bless her. [SPEAKER_00]: She got a lot to work on, but for West, it feels like I'm not even giving him credit, but I just think it's intentional.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know exactly what you're doing. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: this is this is Dakota for Mormon wives hooking up with uh was like a shenaya that can't spell her name right like you could have picked anybody there's lots of people you could have picked you pick this one because you wanted to hurt this other person by doing this you knew what it was gonna do because if you were not aware when you're telling Ben and you're like I don't want it to be hard broken oh I don't want to give her hope oh I don't want to this so you absolutely knew what was gonna happen and I repeat once again [SPEAKER_00]: If West and Amanda think that, you know, their loins have to be together, or they, they're in love, or whatever I've heard, or anything, no, you know what, do what you need to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: But you, oh, they, if, no, not even West because West is trash, Amanda, especially after what we see of this fridge, yeah, if you went to her and said, this is how I'm feeling. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, I feel like I have to follow me hard after being economy just feels like something there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fine, but if you told her, the greater crime to me is the fact that she found out the way we all found out. [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy to me. [SPEAKER_01]: 45 minutes before the tape weren't public, after all the denial is lying directly in her face, all these things, and then you do it like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that you're out here lying to her about it means you know what's wrong. [SPEAKER_01]: If you thought it was okay, you'd have no feeling of I need to lie when she asks me about it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So, did you spot the two guys? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the name, I don't even think it's a podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys who break down like a scandal or pop culture story, but then they write it on the whiteboard, and then they tell you like, oh, [SPEAKER_00]: I tried to find their name, and I couldn't find it, but West has been on their show, Lindsey has been on their show, but they were there at the party.

[SPEAKER_00]: There are two guys who break down pop culture, happenings or headlines, like it's a football game, but they do it on the whiteboard, and it's probably gonna come out. [SPEAKER_01]: I should, that's content for me, and I had not run across you. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, but yeah, and someone's gonna send me the name, I'm sorry, I tried finding their name.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you scroll and you just know people and you're like, wait, I don't know their actual names of what they do. [SPEAKER_00]: But the two guys were there at the party as were some of the guests that were going to be at, so well, some of the characters are going to be on in the city.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like Lindsey's best friend, which I tried to remember was she at the engagement, because it was another best friend that the engagement bit. [SPEAKER_01]: I heard that again, that was so long ago, I have no memory of it anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: I see yet another rotating person always is the same best friend, but [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Amanda is so checked out of this marriage.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I checked out is even an understatement. [SPEAKER_00]: It's the way she would not talk to Kyle because Kyle is moping around like a five-year-old. [SPEAKER_00]: And I have to remember that the fight was the night before because I'm like, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It hasn't time passed.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, just, but she wouldn't even talk to him when he was like, hey, I want to introduce her. [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, no. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: And see, this is my problem. [SPEAKER_01]: Now, if you're going to be done, be done. [SPEAKER_01]: Totally fine. [SPEAKER_01]: My issue is two things.

[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, when we saw Kyle's birthday party after another terrible argument that they had, she had no sort of feeling of like, I'm still mad the next day. [SPEAKER_01]: None of that. [SPEAKER_01]: There was no grudge hell. [SPEAKER_01]: She was best buddies with him. [SPEAKER_01]: There was none of that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Number one. [SPEAKER_01]: Number two, if you're feeling this way, [SPEAKER_01]: This is late at night now. [SPEAKER_01]: You had the entire day to be like, Kyle, I'm not fucking talking to you tonight. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't want anything to do with you right now. [SPEAKER_01]: I will come to you when I am ready.

[SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, she did not tell him mad because he keeps on trying to talk to her. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, go fuck off. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like walks away. [SPEAKER_01]: I felt bad for a Kyle and that makes me feel dirty because I don't like Kyle, I like him with the TV personality as our husband, he's trash, but I still felt sad that he was just like, what, but you're my wife.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like what, what is this? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you said. [SPEAKER_00]: You said clearly, he didn't get the memo, but I do think Kyle is kind of person. [SPEAKER_00]: Even if you tell him, he's like, he's still my wife. [SPEAKER_00]: We should talk. [SPEAKER_01]: So he's... Yeah, he might be.

[SPEAKER_00]: Keep trying. [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, Lindsey has to take him aside. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, just let her be. [SPEAKER_00]: You guys can talk. [SPEAKER_00]: Amanda's with Mia and and Sierra. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're all having a conversation and she gives a speech of not being enough, you know, for anyone else.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, she's tired of them consoling her and like, okay, then do something because here is like do something about it. [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: Me is like, oh, I'm just here to like that's what friends are for to hype you up. [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, that's why she's reversed.

[SPEAKER_00]: I keep going back to this, this is the second time she's saying like she feels like she's not good enough for anyone else and I know People will be like why what is they're not to like you're rich like you have money you're pretty You're in TV. [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you feel like you're not good enough, but guys in secret is a bitch So yep comes for us.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so yeah, so there's that [SPEAKER_00]: It is very hard to watch though, because knowing everything that happens afterwards and all season long, all we've seen is Sierra just propped her up and it's over and over. [SPEAKER_00]: It'll be something if it was like a season where they were like distant or pages of buffer or they were just there.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was a page or something but there was actual like emotional [SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: It was sad though. [SPEAKER_00]: All the indicator about was all of them jumping into the pool. [SPEAKER_00]: So the way they scored the scene, them jumping into the pool, and then Kyle crying and it was just sad.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was very sad. [SPEAKER_01]: What a bummer her. [SPEAKER_00]: In today's, this week's episode of, I will be sure West is okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm very terrified of this man. [SPEAKER_00]: Because we just watched him tell Ben, give Ben the stupid monologue of how I'm not ready. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to do this.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to break, oh sorry, the last thing he wants to do is break her heart and yada yada yada yada. [SPEAKER_00]: And then now it's night time. [SPEAKER_00]: And now we see him give Sierra Longhugs. [SPEAKER_00]: And then she's inching her over to his bed and then one minute what it's in a dark by the way and just as all of them And it's just like what the fuck is going on just like For real what was done with this one minute West had pants next minutes West pants were off with his Baggie undershorts.

[SPEAKER_00]: I refuse to call them underwear Does it look like literally undershorts? [SPEAKER_01]: Got bloomers on [SPEAKER_00]: Diperspeedos, and the next thing they're kissing. [SPEAKER_01]: Ah, at five in the morning they're kissing. [SPEAKER_00]: To my TV. [SPEAKER_01]: I just, the, the, the, the, the sound in my home was silent, just my wife and I have both sitting there just in silent anger and what we're seeing on TV.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's so fucked up, it was 11 30 at night and I'm like, you guys are both like black out drunkets, whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: This is five in the morning. [SPEAKER_01]: You're probably sober at this point early sober enough. [SPEAKER_01]: You haven't had to drink in hours like this is premeditated murder is what you're doing west.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is not okay. [SPEAKER_00]: For me, it's just right after the speech. [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't the next day. [SPEAKER_00]: It was just like hours. [SPEAKER_01]: I was late. [SPEAKER_00]: After you gave a speech of all this, and you haven't had the speech. [SPEAKER_00]: And you know how she feels.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not letting her get off the hook. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know what you feel this way for this man. [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, even if you wanted to come back and be friends, sure. [SPEAKER_00]: My friend of mine is not convinced this. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not going to get back together.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, now, if that happens, stop, just count me out. [SPEAKER_01]: If that happens, I'm sorry, we have to cancel Sierra. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to do that. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's what's gonna have to happen if you move up. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, I forgot what I was gonna say right about that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna ask, um, am I crazy, but in the preview, they showed us Western Sierra kissing on a bench. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Did that come up at all? [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so. [SPEAKER_01]: If they show it has been kissing, um, they're on a bench. [SPEAKER_01]: It was on the left side of the screen and they were facing the other direction.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think there were several kisses. [SPEAKER_01]: We just saw one of them on the show. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: I usually look at because I'm like, uh, what? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, this is the only one. [SPEAKER_00]: Because even when this was happening, it was so dark.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was nighttime camera. [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I didn't know it wasn't until Jesse was like, oh, I'm hearing something. [SPEAKER_00]: So I had to rewind because I really just wanted to pass forward. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what is happening here? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to go fast forward.

[SPEAKER_00]: But then by the end of the episode, I was like, wait, I don't think I saw the other kissing scene. [SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, Oh, yeah, it was a whole other kiss. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: If anyone was ever doubting that West is not taking showers, this is your confirmation. [SPEAKER_00]: The next morning, he jumped into the pool first thing in the morning, like you want chlorine on your body instead of actual soap and water.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, nobody like stop this is the showers are dying for a no, no, you know his dick things like shays from Well, it does Um, yeah, I am fully on board with showers are a euphemism for the other thing that he loves to do Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, boy. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: So what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'll get a move on [SPEAKER_00]: All season long, I have been seeing that nothing happened. [SPEAKER_00]: They had a crush, brand is like, stop it. [SPEAKER_00]: We're not shooting here. [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing like that happened. [SPEAKER_00]: Well guys, everyone's leaving, everyone's so sad.

[SPEAKER_00]: I had a little bit of anxiety because this is the last weekend of the summer, but that house looks fully lived in. [SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to park like he's trying to like park the no he's trying to pack his stuff Sorry, I was like park the car because all those cars that were outside there But he was trying to like get all his stuff and I'm like do you have there's no way you haven't forgotten stuff like this all these things and how do you party hard till 6 a.m?

[SPEAKER_00]: And then now you guys want to drive back there what you mean saying that's too much [SPEAKER_01]: There were so many boxes of whatever that stuff was. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that was his DJ equipment. [SPEAKER_01]: They were like rented for the summer or what. [SPEAKER_01]: It was like a not even like a neatly stacked pile of boxes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just boxes on the floor on the entry when everyone left. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like it. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're all crying saying goodbye. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if I missed it. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, was this supposed to be like, was it gonna get canceled? [SPEAKER_00]: Summer responded to me and say, yes, it was.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then they were moving to in the city or either way, they were moving to in the city. [SPEAKER_00]: And this was their last summer. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: This is all speculation. [SPEAKER_00]: We never noticed it officially, if that was the case. [SPEAKER_01]: You would have thought, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I knew they'd have done like a finale finale for us. [SPEAKER_00]: So something, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: But I can show them the work I says again. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, y'all live in New York. [SPEAKER_00]: You can see each other. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so confused. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: But again, it could be like most of this housewives. [SPEAKER_00]: They don't talk to each other. [SPEAKER_00]: They're really not. [SPEAKER_00]: They don't talk to each other. [SPEAKER_00]: Then they come back all the last time I saw you was New York. [SPEAKER_01]: That's very true. [SPEAKER_00]: But I thought these people actually have friendships and they hang out.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, they're not dead. [SPEAKER_00]: They're just in the city. [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, they're all hanging in [SPEAKER_00]: West, um, you know, kiss is Lindsay on the cheek and does that then he goes to Amanda. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, I said, there was a crush.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, baby. [SPEAKER_00]: I saw forehead kiss to another man's wife. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I saw her in real time. [SPEAKER_00]: Another whisper, guys remember, we had a whisper in the ears one time. [SPEAKER_00]: He whispered something to her ears, I don't know what it was, and then they hugged and then she's crying.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, y'all about to fucking a few hours in this hotel, but oh yeah, you're fucking probably. [SPEAKER_00]: And then Sierra walks in and Lindsey's like, oh Sierra, and they both jump. [SPEAKER_00]: visually, and then Amanda's eyes widened like her, and she looked at her mouth and I was like, oh, Tang, you have been cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yep, I listen. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say I told you, so I don't have a house in this. [SPEAKER_01]: I said good, but you know, I saw a video where somebody said that what he whispered to her was, I had to tell her. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's what he said because like, that would change everything.

[SPEAKER_01]: However, if that is what he said, it explains why when Sierra left, she just wanted to like give a man the light depth. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, all right, buy a man. [SPEAKER_01]: until Amanda like was like, hey, come in for a hug or whatever, but that can be warm goodbye from a Sierra.

[SPEAKER_01]: It cannot be, um, maybe you said to her. [SPEAKER_00]: I kissed her. [SPEAKER_00]: It maybe even said anything or whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: That's a tell her or something like that. [SPEAKER_01]: I listen to a couple of times. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't hear anything that he said. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was impossible for me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't try. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, so that happened and yeah, I'm an idiot. [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: It looks they look so hard trying to believe in the goodness of hearing beans and I'm the fool. [SPEAKER_00]: But watch that hug between Sierra and Amanda saying by saying I love you and just you know both tearing up and I'm so serious like I'm so proud of you and all [SPEAKER_00]: I need that play that the reunion.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: I need that scene played. [SPEAKER_00]: And for you to open your mouth and say, we're not friends or we're not anything. [SPEAKER_00]: I just, you said in your interview, the interview before the world turned around, was I couldn't have made it through the season without Sierra.

[SPEAKER_00]: So don't downplay everything that happened. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay? [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, it was so sad everyone was crying, but everyone finally leaves. [SPEAKER_00]: Kyle we need to talk and they go on the stoop on the stairs and they finally talk and she says she's going to stay to hotel something needs to change and again he has a hand in it but watching Kyle losing his business or not having grip on his business kind of losing his job because I don't know what the plan was with summer house like you just realizing like you're aging out I mean he's like half his age [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I broke now.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you're losing your marriage and all that, like, that's hard. [SPEAKER_00]: That's tough. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, we're all up here. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, not Kyle looks good. [SPEAKER_01]: Even when he's going to... Not in this scene. [SPEAKER_01]: In this scene, the luggage under his eyes.

[SPEAKER_01]: This man was incredibly pale. [SPEAKER_01]: He looked like he had, like, tuberculosis or some shit in this scene. [SPEAKER_01]: Or he has aged incredibly well better than I have. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But like, no, he, in this scene, I'm like, this man's been going through it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he has, but it's just, it's tough. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there was a lot just going on. [SPEAKER_00]: And then this whole time my question was just like, so when Amanda says she's getting a hotel in the city or in the Hampton's, but it turned out it was in the city against. [SPEAKER_01]: In the city with West.

[SPEAKER_00]: Drop your pin, hear my location. [SPEAKER_00]: But that's risky though. [SPEAKER_00]: Because if they all have each other's locations, then you can see that she's at the hotel, and that's where West is too. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know leave us phone somewhere or something. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but I to me, all of in my head Canon this scene was the hug was Hey, confirming we're seeing at the hotel tonight and then she went directly there and West was like Loungeed on the bed with rose petals and shit and it's gross, but that's that's the way this worked out for me [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, so that was it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll take a break before we transition into in the city, but we don't know what is happening to someone else, but we'll find out soon enough, right? [SPEAKER_00]: They're supposed to start filming in July if that's the case. [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see. [SPEAKER_00]: All right, and we're back to in the city.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think in the city had a theme song, but also summer house hasn't had a theme song for like Something something is no already Part of a line of dialogue is all summer. [SPEAKER_01]: Some of us that all he has [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's all they have now. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because Southern China's Papadoo, Papadoo, Papadoo, it's easy.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, how did we get to theme songs? [SPEAKER_00]: That's fun. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, my question is, did producers tell Amanda to wait to have that conversation with Kyle? [SPEAKER_00]: Um, if Kyle didn't implode, what would the transition have been? [SPEAKER_00]: It turned out to be a great transition, but what was the plan for the transition?

[SPEAKER_00]: This all happened because, I mean, Amanda used the fact that he employed her and said, fuck you and all that stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what if nothing had happened? [SPEAKER_00]: How was this going to end, you know? [SPEAKER_01]: like Dolores Catan, you're sitting at a table of like destroyed food looking sad.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's flyer in for this one shot. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they don't straight into the scandal because they give us timelines and we're seeing all the timelines, we're seeing all the stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: And then we see Kyle in his apartment and then we see Amanda walk into his apartment, she did not knock on the door and he's like, he's still using your keys and I'm like, Kyle, you're too cool for my liking.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't this is this is [SPEAKER_00]: We're there now by the whole thing now everyone was up in arms because they took a picture together at the in the city premiere and the red carpet I don't care about that. [SPEAKER_00]: I know you don't see that work, but it's work and then they hug and they had this awkward Okay, bye.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: I think we're done now that that's fine. [SPEAKER_00]: This yeah, this actually bothers me Why are you giving her privileges? [SPEAKER_00]: This is why she thinks she has the right to do whatever call me before you come to my house knock on my door before you come to my house.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care for shooting [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, if you're coming in here and then he's been defending her the whole time and just saying oh, I'm worried I'm not saying you should have worried, but their consequences to things like you can't You know, just always use that you still have to make decisions that because this is not if we helpful for your mental health You have to have known what was coming, you know with this, but he's cool and I keep wondering is there more to this than we know Because I I I mentioned on bitches better.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think I told Raven. [SPEAKER_00]: I do feel like [SPEAKER_00]: they were separated before they announced it. [SPEAKER_00]: But then it feels like a lot of heavy lifting to act like they were still together this summer. [SPEAKER_01]: But did they really act like it? [SPEAKER_01]: Because they didn't, when they were starting to warm between them all summer, my thought process was get Kyle was trying.

[SPEAKER_01]: My thought process was they got separated before the summer started. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it was a separation where Amanda was kind of like, we need some time in some space. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we'll see how the summer goes if things can get better over the course of summer we can try again.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then Kyle, being who he is, is like, I'm going to ruin it three or four times, I think this summer. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what happened. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, this scene for me felt almost like Amanda story to Kyle was we have hooked up, but we're not, we're not a couple. [SPEAKER_01]: We're not together.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, yeah, we hooked up a few times or whatever, because he's treating it kind of like, yeah, that was kind of, you know, not a great idea, but like I'm worried about you and how people kind of say about you. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think either one of them went into this, thinking we're gonna have a relationship.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was, we're gonna do the nasty a couple of times, no one's gonna find out. [SPEAKER_01]: And then... [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry about that. [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't mentioned it yet. [SPEAKER_00]: So anyone that's confused, he's talking about a conversation they're having about West. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's right.

[UNKNOWN]: I don't get it. [SPEAKER_01]: I gotta head of myself. [SPEAKER_00]: Cause I was like, wait, wait. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'll back up a little bit. [SPEAKER_00]: That's okay, Kyle and Amanda are talking about a conversation, but with the whole thing, because then we get the timeline that says April 9th and they are not still, I think Mark 31st right before April fools or something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So now everyone knows and then they go straight into that conversation. [SPEAKER_00]: But go ahead, sorry, I just want to give context for anybody else that's confused that. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I never thought, I mean, from the beginning, I'm like, there, you guys don't make sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is a couple. [SPEAKER_01]: I think they just wanted to like hook up. [SPEAKER_01]: and think we can do this and no one's going to find out and then people found out. [SPEAKER_01]: Another had to kind of backtrack and retcon the whole thing to know this is my man and we're together and let's go to the Yankees game and act like we're happy and shit like I think they kind of fucked up and got trapped into this relationship.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think in good West fashion that's West thinking, but as you know the women have fallen for him. [SPEAKER_01]: Somehow, she smells bad though. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't get no pun intended, but I don't know, it's just kind of disingenuous for Amanda to yell at Kyle and say, I gave everything I had.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you did it. [SPEAKER_01]: We saw it. [SPEAKER_00]: This, this white woman tears a killing me. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't from Southern Hospitality to here to she says crying like she's the aggrieved. [SPEAKER_00]: And in some way, she was the aggrieved, but you got your lick back. [SPEAKER_00]: So I just don't take accountability.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like what more is the lick back? [SPEAKER_00]: Because I saw a clip where Kyle was saying, yeah, you can have a rebound. [SPEAKER_00]: And again, he's so cool about it. [SPEAKER_00]: That makes me think they've been separated for a while. [SPEAKER_00]: But he was like, your rebound was supposed to be a random person.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's when he says, yeah, my best friends. [SPEAKER_00]: And the person was like, oh, wait, he's one of your best friends. [SPEAKER_00]: Wait. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he wasn't in your fucking page in the house when he was cheating. [SPEAKER_01]: Like he was cheating with a random him. [SPEAKER_01]: We never saw ever again.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that would be something imagine if Kyle did that to Paige, but oh boy, yeah, but he's worried about her because, you know, he says she's looking very skinny, she eating like she okay, but she's like, how do you think I feel? [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I mean, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, we officially meet Gemma.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I officially meet Gemma. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I've seen them meet her, but this is the first time you get to see her personality She's a former child. [SPEAKER_00]: Lindsay is not lying. [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, let's take a birth to herself The way she lit up at her nanny that was just so cute and she's just smiling and her side eyes top notch You gotta come on [SPEAKER_00]: So we start getting introduced to the different characters on the show.

[SPEAKER_00]: We meet Iván, who was also at the party, Lindsay's best friend. [SPEAKER_00]: We meet Georgina, who's like, uh, I don't know if she's a dermatologist or medspot, oh, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I think, yeah, something something that's based. [SPEAKER_00]: One of them, yeah, I don't know if it's like Kiana.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, do you watch Potomac? [SPEAKER_00]: You don't watch Potomac? [SPEAKER_01]: No, I need to, but I haven't started yet. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Georgina is one of our mom friends there and she just tells a story of how she went cook on her ex. [SPEAKER_00]: Like she had two kids who was pregnant and then he's like, yeah, I don't want to do this anymore.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he walked away and she's like she went kuku. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sure we'll hear more about it, but we haven't heard about it now. [SPEAKER_00]: And Andrea, as you remember, and Lexi are here as is Danielle, a founder and influencer. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure why Danielle's confessional started way up close up her nostrils, but um, she's dating.

[SPEAKER_00]: Ewing? [SPEAKER_00]: How do you say his name? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's Owen, but it's not going that way. [SPEAKER_00]: But when she said it, it spelled E.O.I.N. [SPEAKER_00]: But when she said it, I was like, what did she say? [SPEAKER_00]: She said it so quickly. [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say it right, but later on they tell us that it's Owen.

[SPEAKER_00]: She met him nine years ago, there were just friends and somehow somehow they're dating now and they're talking baby. [SPEAKER_00]: She's like put a baby in me, which is, you know, ironic because she's pregnant now. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like six months, she's far along right now. [SPEAKER_01]: And she was judging Lindsey for doing it so fast.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she says they've been together six months and yeah, I know it's fast. [SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm waiting for her to say, which is ironic because, you know, I gave him see so much shit and Carl. [SPEAKER_00]: And they knew each other. [SPEAKER_00]: They were friends, you know? [SPEAKER_00]: So, no, that did not come.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's no self-awareness with this one. [SPEAKER_00]: She's just like, yeah, he just put a baby in me, I'm 37, I can't wait, he just wants to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: And like, this is nice, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: We meet Kenny, who is Kyle's friend. [SPEAKER_00]: He's the venture capitalist.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it was funny because from nowhere, he says Kyle is a lush. [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I like the guy with his lush. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm like, oh, word, none of us have noticed that before. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you noticed, when Kyle and Kenny are sitting down having a conversation, there's two people who suddenly realized that it's Kyle from summer house and they're just like, oh my god, it's, and the next thing you see the scene, they're like walking away, they're like, blurred them out because I'm like, how long did it take?

[SPEAKER_00]: Did they have to pause and be like, shoot, go away. [SPEAKER_01]: I liked that. [SPEAKER_01]: All I noticed in that scene was the same taxi parked behind Kyle three times when he said, yeah, some of you just reasoned the same footage on, like about the notice that. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I have to mention that Kenny's Black because there was a lot of talk about all in the city and there are no Black people, but Kenny is, and we meet his girlfriend Whitney, who has done the Bachelor, and she is moving to New York for him.

[SPEAKER_00]: Where's she moving from? [SPEAKER_01]: Either from Wisconsin or Minnesota, I think Wisconsin. [SPEAKER_01]: She's one of my people either because he's from Michigan. [SPEAKER_01]: So they're both Midwest. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes. [SPEAKER_00]: He did Nick Vial season. [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's all coming together for them.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I do watch the bachelor, but I did not watch Nick Files season. [SPEAKER_00]: So I do remember her. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't at first, and I was like, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity, whity [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, I'm a little scared.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if she wants to come. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm scared to hurt her. [SPEAKER_00]: I hate that statement so much. [SPEAKER_00]: When a grown man says, I'm scared to hurt her. [SPEAKER_00]: It's annoying because no one's forcing it on you. [SPEAKER_00]: How about don't hurt her? [SPEAKER_00]: How about just do the right thing?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not something that you invoke and then you inflict it on someone. [SPEAKER_00]: You do it. [SPEAKER_00]: You have control over that. [SPEAKER_00]: So just don't hurt her. [SPEAKER_01]: Act right, act right or tell her not to come. [SPEAKER_01]: but to do that while she's coming, I'm gonna fuck this up, I know it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, don't do that. [SPEAKER_01]: Just like act right. [SPEAKER_00]: We meet another Gavin. [SPEAKER_00]: He owns the Speakeasy that they're all meeting up at, and I'm like, come on, Kyle, with the black friends. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: And Lindsey too. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're all black friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: Who was this? [SPEAKER_01]: It was black friends. [SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't there, um, God, I don't know their name. [SPEAKER_01]: There was a, Gavin's not the ball black guy, is he? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the big guy that owns the Okay, you said that was high up. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, they're high up, but I mean, I think they all know each other.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it's all kind of black women. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not surprising. [SPEAKER_00]: So, um, they're all there, they're all having drinks, and they're all talking, but, um, Kyle and Amanda have just let therapy. [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, do you think Amanda is just going through the motions of therapy to be like, she knows it's not going to work, which is like, see, I tried, I did it, or do you think she actually wants something to happen?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's going for the motions knowing that Kyle is not going to do what he needs to do to actually make therapy work. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, because she gave example where she's like you came home at whatever o'clock this morning No, we had therapy today. [SPEAKER_01]: So like I think she's like yeah, I'll play along I'll go through this everyone sees that I quote unquote tried knowing for well Kyle is not gonna fix himself Yeah, yeah [SPEAKER_00]: So they're walking on there and, you know, Amanda does look very stressed and she's just like, oh, guys, this is before the whole scandal.

[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, we've come back to seven months prior. [SPEAKER_00]: Everything happened back to the summer because they just finished. [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's all we're going to get of it too. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's all kidding. [SPEAKER_00]: I think they just fed in the post scandal just to be like, oh, we know we have to address it in some way.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So they're walking and then just like, I don't know what you want for me, I'm tired. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, you know what, I'm not going to the speedy because part of what Kenny brought up is like, Kyle shows up to stuff alone. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he just doesn't show up and she doesn't.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I understand, I mean, we've heard that, you know, a man that just doesn't show up to things. [SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't like Sierra said that in her interview where she doesn't, she wants to be invited, but she's not going to show up. [SPEAKER_00]: She just wants to stay home. [SPEAKER_00]: So she tells Kyle, she's like, I'm hot.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go home and I hollered because Kyle said you're wearing a raincoat in the middle of us. [SPEAKER_01]: I laugh so hard. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, it's not a raincoat and then they they paned down and back up to show that she's basically, if it's not a raincoat, it's a trench coat.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna let him because we're no walking down the street. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, um, they just cut back from the app. [SPEAKER_00]: No, if that was like, you just cut back from the app. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what is happening? [SPEAKER_00]: Why is she, it's not even ready. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's not vaults.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, shit, you're hot. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, of course you are. [SPEAKER_00]: But you didn't have to say it all out. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's not the wrong moment. [SPEAKER_00]: These are the moments we turn into a child. [SPEAKER_00]: And he's just like, open and he's like, [SPEAKER_01]: You're in a raincoat, so.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wait, I don't want some funny, but I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: I love so much. [SPEAKER_00]: It was good. [SPEAKER_00]: The time was perfect. [SPEAKER_00]: Expecting it. [SPEAKER_00]: So, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: So, they're asking about Lindsay and Danielle, because Danielle was like, oh, it's so sad.

[SPEAKER_00]: We have a spoken, like, four months, like, you know, she had her baby. [SPEAKER_00]: I have a new man. [SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't met you and liked Danielle. [SPEAKER_00]: That, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Danielle comes in with her man and they're like, hey, you're gonna say hi, and then she's like, no, I don't want negative competitive energy.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, what did she do to you? [SPEAKER_00]: And then she whips out her phone. [SPEAKER_00]: And the producer was like, you have it on your phone. [SPEAKER_00]: And Lindsey really looks at the producer like, have you met me like, I want to do this. [SPEAKER_01]: Some questions like, and she has all the things.

[SPEAKER_01]: And her grips are correct. [SPEAKER_00]: What I'm thinking of is, I'm sorry, Lindsey and Carl [SPEAKER_01]: I guess I get I don't know what time even is anymore because in my mind, they dated and got engaged in like the same season Like they started off the summer got engaged at the end [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I'm wondering if something happened and then they broke up and then we got part two of the dating again because I'm like, they're dating did not last from season four to season seven.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, seven was what this is season 10, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they broke up season eight because nine was a pregnant. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because nine was a seven. [SPEAKER_00]: So this hand job was season four because I remember that he gave her a hand job. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, what's the hand job?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, was that a dating situation and then they broke up and then they tried again, and then how do I know remember this like the memories such a Let me ask you a question about this timeline that I don't know if either one of us can answer when did Carl finger bang her because I'd also happen So like was that oh, I think I'm four.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so maybe that was like we're not really dating, but like It was a Sierra West it was a Sierra West type stitch [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's what it was. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, well, Danielle, you know he just had his hand in me. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, why are you giving him a hand job in the car now?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, either way, it's still messed up. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, didn't I always give him weird energy? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, didn't you? [SPEAKER_01]: She's always picked me. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and she wants to be a lot so bad that she does it the wrong way. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, what are you doing?

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember winterhouse when she was obsessed with that guy from below deck? [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, really? [SPEAKER_00]: This is like, this is a fling. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't make that. [SPEAKER_00]: And then she hooked up with Joe. [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_00]: And then it's here on her with Louis.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god Danielle, come on. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, she is she needs to be chosen Yeah, yeah, so yeah, Lindsey's grabs a correct and like people you should never force friendship friendships If you feel like someone's competing with you, it's not working out move on there many other friends that you can be with it.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's okay [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Lindsay says, how do you say he's need? [SPEAKER_00]: On, on, on, is it? [SPEAKER_01]: It's spelled a yo-win. [SPEAKER_01]: He's named after like an elf for more of the rings or some shit. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's not how you spell a o-win. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's from a different country, Brian.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't get that. [SPEAKER_01]: Phonics is still matter. [SPEAKER_01]: All right. [SPEAKER_01]: Letters still mix it. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, shows, shows, shows, show, show. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what's it? [SPEAKER_00]: S-A-I-O. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, if you're Welsh, S-A-I-O-R, S-E, sure, sure, yeah, so it's kind of like that, so yeah, Gaelic is wrong on that way, that's true.

[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, so that's what it is, so let me see, oh, if you want to tell us a weird story, so she was comparing herself to Andrea and Lexi, and then her husband was like, yeah, we're all supermodels, so that's right, and we got married about the same time, so and Andrea just said, like, oh, a one year marriage is coming up soon.

[SPEAKER_00]: If I tell the story about how, you know, she wants to have a child, her husband is not ready to and she's like, oh, she's going to show him so she got on a plane and went to San Diego and this man did not know that she left for a few days. [SPEAKER_01]: For days. [SPEAKER_01]: What? [SPEAKER_01]: What do you guys not text either?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what do you mean, she didn't text because she wanted to see, but I don't know it was very. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he didn't text her. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like, I text my life all the time. [SPEAKER_00]: It's very weird, but she's like, you have a great marriage. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, what is great?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you do. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it sounds pretty bad actually. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what's going to come out of that, and maybe that's why he doesn't want to have a child, but I, that was very odd. [SPEAKER_00]: That's why I share with us.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't understand these people that want to portray that, you know, life is great, and then you tell us this tidbits, and what are we supposed to do with that? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is the line business. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, they have a girl's night out Amanda Gleefully shares that Danielle's man is married and Lindsay's just like, oh my God, you were killing me because Danielle had come up to her at the speak easy and said I'd like to have coffee, let's meet up, let's talk and Lindsay's like, and let me think about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Amanda is always gleeful when she has to gossip about other people. [SPEAKER_00]: She's like those of some of me. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to talk about me anymore, but let's hear that Danielle's man is married. [SPEAKER_00]: But Danielle herself has not shared that his married.

[SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: I hope that doesn't come a whole thing of is here is he not like let's get a definitive answer to it and move on from it. [SPEAKER_00]: is definitive. [SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those cases where you're legally still married, but you're not together. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I think.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I will say this, given the audio leaks from the Summer House for Union, how dare a man to be like, stop saying that I married. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you are. [SPEAKER_01]: If he is, then you are too. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh. [SPEAKER_00]: I forgot to mention the part that kind of is so petty, I swear to God, he asked a man that's to pay back rent that totaled over $1,000.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's no sweat I did. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what kind of marriage did these people have? [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what I don't understand. [SPEAKER_00]: You both lived in a place and you paid the rent because you were married and then you back paid her. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: Everything about me. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what that was about because like, [SPEAKER_01]: The way that it sounds is that she just like up and stopped giving him half of the money for the rent and he had to like cover the difference. [SPEAKER_01]: That seems hard to believe that that happened and that you just went on doing that for three years, especially when you aren't taking a salary from your company anymore.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if Amanda was still getting paid from Leverboy or not, we know that he said that he took, he stopped paying himself so that he could make everyone else's payroll and took out that amorphous loan for between 500,000 and 71 million dollars or whatever to pay everyone else's salary.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're not taking his salary, you're paying her and she's not contributing to the rent anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be like, the fuck are we doing, like, what is this? [SPEAKER_01]: So I wouldn't send an invoice, but I could see being pissed off about it. [SPEAKER_00]: He probably just needed money for the loans that month is like, very, it's good to buy a pile of money.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, solve them. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, that was it for the premiere of in the city. [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say like it was like, you know, when I watched Lisa London, I was like, oh, this is great. [SPEAKER_00]: It was just an extension of somehow. [SPEAKER_01]: And like, I see where there could be good drama.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, as the as the characters flesh out because as usual like I do think the stench of the Amanda West scandal is all over this and it just kind of puts a little damper because what happened with summer house yes we had great characters but we're just viewing it through the lens of the scandal and it's just hard not to carry that over to in the city because now it feels like.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're watching Sister Wives where we are like two years behind. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you really know what happened? [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, what, okay, we're watching this, but we already know how, what the resolve is and how fast can we get there? [SPEAKER_01]: It's like watching porces relationship on Atlanta.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why do I care about this? [SPEAKER_01]: I know what this is going. [SPEAKER_01]: So like, why am I invested in what she's doing? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, all right. [SPEAKER_00]: Can you share with people where they can find you, Brian? [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I host Maff's Virgin, my friend Kim.

[SPEAKER_01]: We just did the second episode of the Boston season. [SPEAKER_01]: We had to watch Alyssa try on wedding boots with cut or wedding dress with cowboy boots on because Boston is known for its country music scene. [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to listen to us, we are at Maff's Virgin. [SPEAKER_01]: We have a Facebook group, the Maff's Virgin Fan Club.

[SPEAKER_01]: We just talk kind of general reality TV in there. [SPEAKER_01]: And then you can follow us on Instagram and Threads at Maff's Virgin. [SPEAKER_00]: okay guys you know what to find me it's all to call MAA Fest and all of the socials I live thread would I watch on threads so you can check that out please give me a five star rating and apple podcast so Spotify so people can find the podcast and say subscribe so you don't miss out on any new episodes until next time guys bye

Summer House S10 Finale/In The City Premiere w/Brian

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