Welcome To Plathville: S8 Eps. 10 & 11

[SPEAKER_00]: Hi everybody, welcome to another episode of Tain Talks. [SPEAKER_00]: I am your host, Tain. [SPEAKER_00]: Here to talk to you today about welcome to Plathfield. [SPEAKER_00]: He's an eight episodes 10 and 11 here with me as always when he comes to Plathfield is Brian from Mass version. [SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Brian, how are you?

[SPEAKER_01]: Feeling really judgmental toward everyone I know. [SPEAKER_01]: or if they do, they're ungodly ways. [SPEAKER_00]: Jada, make you walk, walk with the Lord, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Listen to me. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all that helps. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I am excited to talk about this. [SPEAKER_00]: The last time we covered episodes 8 and 9, I think 9, I said was the worst episode so far as the season and they had nothing to give.

[SPEAKER_00]: The production is still wonky, but we got some juice. [SPEAKER_00]: We got some juice this time around. [SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk about it, reminding you guys that you can find new episodes on the feed, Brian and I talked about some of my house, part 3 reunion, you can find a couple therapy, latest episode up with Jen, and you can find 90 day episodes on patreon, patreon.com, slash teen talks.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, this irritating man called Barry, it was quite heavy, whatever you choose to call him, it's finally going on a date, and it's a blind date. [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't understand how his measurements is how many people have read the book of Inoc and the by I mean that now I'm not a religious man that's not even in the regular Bible is it isn't that like one of the apocryphal texts that's like on the outside of the Bible [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, don't put me on blast because now that it's not yourself.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, I know. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Is it as a official? [SPEAKER_00]: Is it canon? [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_00]: The Catholic Bible has extra books. [SPEAKER_00]: The books that we're taking out. [SPEAKER_00]: The poker fuzz, something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what they're saying now? [SPEAKER_01]: There's others that didn't bell on the dragon didn't make the cut and stuff like that. [SPEAKER_01]: So like I don't like gosh. [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been in a mass in more than 25 years. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't remember a lot of my old Catholic teaching.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought that was one of those. [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, oh, it used to be in the Bible. [SPEAKER_01]: And then they got like taken out, but you can still like read it and find it and stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like banned. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just got like, riddle the way over the time.

[SPEAKER_01]: If not, I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mean to derail us. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I did to figure out. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think like it's officially in the Bible, which is what made him. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why he was saying that. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like how many people [SPEAKER_00]: would have read that, like you have to dig deep to find that, but I don't know, this management is strange.

[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter what you say. [SPEAKER_00]: It could be this, it could be not, but he's just very strange and is weird. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm confused at the direction of the season, like I've been saying, because [SPEAKER_00]: This is the introduction to them saying all the things that happen in Montana, because why are we not seeing Zach and Lydia in their moral high ground?

[SPEAKER_00]: Why are we relying on the family members to tell us that this happened on multiple occasions? [SPEAKER_00]: And there was not a camera to film any of that. [SPEAKER_00]: But the way Lydia explained it to me, it didn't sound like it was anything wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: They went to Montana.

[SPEAKER_00]: Amber who is 16 was there with Mariah and she's just like she was drinking around her She is a minor like I'm not saying don't drink around your kids or anything But it's like it's a few days you can not drink or drinks separately. [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay And she was like don't do that and then they were watching TV shows that you know happen to be I don't know what it is That's the other thing [SPEAKER_00]: What he could have been her bars low if it was something that was like, what can I see?

[SPEAKER_00]: Should I say you for it? [SPEAKER_00]: Is that it? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there you go. [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it was a big bang theory. [SPEAKER_00]: Like what was it? [SPEAKER_00]: Or is it like the the gone but not forgotten one season the weekend show that was so bad.

[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't even finish out the season. [SPEAKER_00]: That was just like all your twisted fantasies in in Bear Sam Levin since he's the same guy who does before. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: mind come to life because it was like the sickest things ever was it that I don't know we don't have context into you know what yeah but it just feels like Kim is committed to misunderstanding Lydia and it infuriates me it truly creates me [SPEAKER_00]: Like if that happens, why don't you call her and then listen to her and even when she says it, you don't want to hear what she has to say.

[SPEAKER_00]: You just want to be like, I have your husband, I kind of don't like you for calling me out and I'm just going to say that you feel better than everybody else. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to punish you. [SPEAKER_00]: I think I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: They're committed to making her the outsider and I don't like it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure she's perfect, but it has to feel isolating, I guess. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, she's she's not perfect, but she is the best member of this family. [SPEAKER_01]: So like, it's a very low bar, but she of all of them is the one where I'm just like, I can't point to anything that you've done that's like objectively bad or maybe everyone else.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's the problem. [SPEAKER_00]: They're so used to chaos and doing terrible things to each other that you haven't done anything to me, so you must be the problem. [SPEAKER_00]: Because they've all heard each other in some way. [SPEAKER_00]: At some point, Ethan wasn't even talking to his mom.

[SPEAKER_00]: His mom has said things, he's got it said things. [SPEAKER_00]: More as said things and done things to Ethan, they've done things, Mike, whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: And they're all like, hey, you did something bad to you, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I recognize that. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm familiar with that chaos, but Lydia is just like, trying to be happy with her husband, hasn't said anything to anyone, and they're like, something was wrong with you.

[SPEAKER_00]: You do not come with drugs. [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, I made fun. [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, oh, I get out of here. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't I always do remember how she was there holding down the family when Kim decided she wanted to be a bad girl so yeah she was the mom for a minute there that's just she's really sad um question for you what does Barry's job oh god I don't know I don't [SPEAKER_01]: a professional weirdo, I think it's probably, I just, I just, I don't know what he does.

[SPEAKER_00]: I sat down and I was like, wait, do we actually know what he does? [SPEAKER_00]: We don't say this. [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody's going to send in all the things they said. [SPEAKER_01]: He probably owns properties. [SPEAKER_01]: He probably is like a, I own a lot of properties that I rent out or something like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's my guess. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: I want to know because they're talking about child support. [SPEAKER_00]: It's been finalized. [SPEAKER_00]: He does not pay child support and he had the audacity, [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have it. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I'm like what did he do it became early season's teen mom all of a sudden look man I ain't got it all right What do you do He bought a whole dance studio for her so I I don't know, but definitely hard.

[SPEAKER_01]: He did borrow juicer So he did borrow a juicer Yeah, it's true and it just buy a juicer [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the producers are doing their job and they've decided to make a story out of whatever happened in Montana that they did not think was good enough for us to see. [SPEAKER_00]: So they're all going to meet it is the one year anniversary of Lydia and Zach's wedding and they're going to do something nice for them, but why should we do something nice without.

[SPEAKER_00]: doing something horrible to her. [SPEAKER_00]: So they're planning on planting her about the things that we're said because Lydia and Kim did kind of have like a conversation about Joshua, but we're all going to tie everything into that and let's just hash everything out on your one-year anniversary because why not, you know, as a talk.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just nuts. [SPEAKER_00]: So let me go through Ethan and Tegan first before we go to the confrontation, right? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sick of it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sick of whatever the fuck this is. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand why they're going to the party together. [SPEAKER_00]: They are in Cairo, meaning that she actually flew down for this.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're driving together. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want us to get back together. [SPEAKER_00]: We're just friends, but I'm going to take time out away from my kid and come all the way down. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it is a job, but still. [SPEAKER_00]: And then she's staying in a hotel, I don't get it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because she doesn't, she's not with him. [SPEAKER_01]: You stay with the family. [SPEAKER_01]: This should be a brand new woman we don't know until this season. [SPEAKER_01]: This role should be played by some woman he met in town, who he can now turn his family against or turn against his family or whatever.

[SPEAKER_01]: But like for this to be teagun. [SPEAKER_01]: Who does not like him? [SPEAKER_01]: And who's not leading? [SPEAKER_01]: Right, none of this makes sense. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sick of it. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care that her lip gloss looks good. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired of her. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired of all of this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: And then, do you drive down? [SPEAKER_00]: That's his car, right? [SPEAKER_01]: That's his car. [SPEAKER_01]: So they drove and slept in the stinky car. [SPEAKER_01]: I would assume the entire way down. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can't. [SPEAKER_00]: Micah is a no show. [SPEAKER_00]: Like we just need to get used to it. [SPEAKER_00]: So the. [SPEAKER_00]: You can't close it out. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, I wish Micah could make it. [SPEAKER_00]: But as usual, he had something he had to do. [SPEAKER_00]: Micah's like, I know you're not ruining this relationship for me.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not going to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: For the first time in whatever, because I think in the last time you mentioned that we have not seen Ethan smile the entire season, we see him crack a smile. [SPEAKER_00]: He tells Ethan that he has exciting news and it's about his divorce and his ex, she shall not be named, has responded to his lawyer and stuff has been sent to the court, so it's now in the court hands and then there should be granted a divorce very soon.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we we also saw him smile in that flashback where he's playing pool and I'm like it's creepy looking now Like the different of these two people is so so fast But it's like I've not seen this like smiling goofy version of Ethan and so long that the seed again is unsettling Yeah [SPEAKER_00]: I think he expected Tegan to do like the Sierra Somosal to like hoop and holler, and she's just like, you know, that's another person that's even killed.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she's on anything, but she's just, no. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Happy Chad. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Winters brings so much fall. [SPEAKER_00]: That's it. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, yeah, I mean, I wanted him to get into the forest that's an open door, but we'll see.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, it's not. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think you guys she has a new boyfriend now. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's all done. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel compelled to tell you she has a new black boyfriend. [SPEAKER_00]: So [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that there's nothing so she's just doing this for a check and I get Need her to do a tell all like Veronica and just tell us why were you here?

[SPEAKER_00]: Why were you hanging out with him because clearly you don't want anything to do with him or his family nobody sure that you know Okay, I'm tracked okay [SPEAKER_00]: Anything shares that I want to bet that's probably not working and she's like, I'm not as well. [SPEAKER_00]: I get to check out this.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: Ethan shares that, oh, like, you know, everything that happened with Zach and also Zach had concerns about her that he brought to him that she's using him for money, that he didn't like the way she referred to her daughter as baggage, and that her sexuality is not something that he should be okay with.

[SPEAKER_00]: And, um, I'm like, what is the point of telling her, but, you know, what these people don't think things through? [SPEAKER_00]: But, um, they called for me, Brian, and am I forgetting what is the sexuality that he should not be okay with? [SPEAKER_01]: Um, that she has some, I think. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's, I think that's it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just that, like, she is not a deeply repressed person. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a problem. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Or, or this is all bullshit. [SPEAKER_01]: Or it's Ethan saying, I want us to all hate Zack. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to tell you things that he never said or that I am deliberately misinterpreting.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that you will hate him with the rest of us because we all have to hate Zack. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm glad that's what it was because I didn't want to miss speak and I didn't know if I forgot if there was if she ever mentioned Maybe that she was bisexual or anything and then I missed that because the way they just kept saying her sexuality is not something you should be okay with is that even the terminology if it's like oh she's okay with primarital sex [SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it because she also mentioned my sexuality is something I've always been open and I told Ethan about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So now I'm like, is this just the production breakdown again where we didn't miss anything or is it me forgetting something? [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like if she was bisexual [SPEAKER_01]: Ethan would react the way that Daniel did when he found out that Lisa was bisexual. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think it's that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is just that way. [SPEAKER_00]: He's not a character. [SPEAKER_01]: He's not a character. [SPEAKER_01]: You have not seen it. [SPEAKER_01]: Go back and watch. [SPEAKER_01]: Just their seeds. [SPEAKER_01]: I think [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's basically like, when they had that game they were playing, where it was Isaac, and Kaylin, and Lydia and Zach.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, these are questions that you could take in a sexual way. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to act really weird about it. [SPEAKER_01]: I think for her, she like, I'll just talk about sex. [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that is the part that upsets Zach. [SPEAKER_01]: If this happened at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: is that she's not somebody who is shy talking about it or is uncomfortable talking about it. [SPEAKER_01]: She is a grown-up and is okay talking about sex with grown-ups. [SPEAKER_01]: Even Kim won't do it. [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's just like, yeah, she's just not afraid to say I enjoy sex and that is deeply offensive to Zack.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: All right, just wanted to decode that because I was like, it feels like they're being cagey and they're sexual. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what is? [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: She does mention that Zach has been yapping about everybody else's or it's just been morally superior for a while because the producer was like, oh, so this is not new.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's against, oh, no. [SPEAKER_00]: This is not new. [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, going back to the sexuality. [SPEAKER_00]: Remember the whole only fan's thing? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can't imagine it's that because if that was that he would have said, you know, he said you had an own the fans, look, he wouldn't have brought that up, probably because that's already been there.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just like it's it's it's something that he knows will like. [SPEAKER_01]: get her upset, essentially. [SPEAKER_01]: The same way that, listen, as a dad, if I was to ever like be divorced in my life or whatever and start to date, my child would be baggage I'm bringing into a relationship.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's just a fact. [SPEAKER_01]: It's something that [SPEAKER_01]: you would not have to deal with if it was not a parent you were dating. [SPEAKER_01]: So I could see him saying, hey man, like it's kind of be kind of a lot, you know, she's got some baggage from past relationships. [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't come out and say, hey, she has a kid, a kid has baggage, you know, like I don't think it was that.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think you, no, that's not what he meant. [SPEAKER_00]: He, she said it. [SPEAKER_00]: I think they were talking about something and she was like, oh, I have baggage, like my kid or something is baggage and he was like, he didn't like that she referred to her kid as baggage. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she's, I don't, I don't fucking know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I just choose to leave Ethan's making this all up, so that she will hate Zack. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm torn on that, just whether or not he said it or not, when people refer to kids as baggage, I don't, [SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm on the side of I don't like it either, but it's not his place to say it and also there's always context.

[SPEAKER_00]: It could be context where it's like dating, while having a kid has been hard, most people see it as baggage, even though to me it's a blessing I don't care. [SPEAKER_00]: Like everything is just being misconstrued because what we heard from Lydia was just like, hey, might not help to have alcohol around here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're like, don't tell me what to drink. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't tell me like, I'm an alcoholic. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, so he said she said we don't know what it is. [SPEAKER_00]: But just in general, I usually don't like, if I hear it, I'm usually like, no, does it as baggage? [SPEAKER_00]: There's so people who date people, maybe they can have kids of their own, and then they're just grateful.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, there's somebody who already has a kid that I can love on, it's not always baggage. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not. [SPEAKER_01]: That's true, that's fair. [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have to be unless you make it. [SPEAKER_00]: And also, if you think it's baggage, then you're just gonna date someone with a kid.

[SPEAKER_01]: Don't date somebody as a kid. [SPEAKER_00]: They're options. [SPEAKER_00]: They're options. [SPEAKER_00]: They're so. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm gonna take a break and come back with a little miss Kim. [SPEAKER_00]: All right. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Lydia said the stage. [SPEAKER_00]: She talked about Joshua and how Kim never wants to talk about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently she went on a podcast. [SPEAKER_00]: Do we know what podcast that is? [SPEAKER_00]: no idea that she went on and she talked about it and how, you know, she feels like he was a factor in her parents divorce and all that stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: So Kim looking for any reason to go against Lydia even though out her mouth, she says, oh, I want to work things out.

[SPEAKER_00]: I want to do this, but everything she does is against that. [SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell you how much I really hated that conversation of Kim, Ethan, and Isaac. [SPEAKER_00]: Like Isaac, I have grown to really, really, really dislike so much. [SPEAKER_00]: that conversation with them just really grinds my gears because it's just so in my eyes sinister.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just is giving rubbing brown a run for a yes rubbing gets under my skin so bad and I always say I don't know these people they should not but Kim gets on my nerves because you want to appear like you're a great mom but now you want to be friends with your sons and [SPEAKER_00]: And it's just boy moms are never beating the allegations because the way she treats even when anything happens, she knows eating is going to react.

[SPEAKER_00]: She knows eating is going to get riled up. [SPEAKER_00]: So she goes and runs to him first, feeds him and breaks it down in a way that's going to get him riled up, gets impressionable Isaac, and then it becomes a whole thing. [SPEAKER_00]: And they're talking about Lydia, like she's not a member of the family.

[SPEAKER_00]: That really just gets to me. [SPEAKER_00]: she's an outside invader here to record we have no one even thinks oh let's call Lydia let's see like hey what happened like I heard this old mom isn't really happy they just talk about her like oh they think that they're better than us why would they judge people what it was just gross I did not like that at all no but anyways Kim I have to say it was courageous to go to a therapist on national television to talk about this tragedy [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I did like that she, she liked the therapist that worked with Veronica and missing Micah so much that she went to her or they were like listen, we can't find someone that's gonna sign up on this.

[SPEAKER_00]: She has the rights. [SPEAKER_00]: She says she will appear on TV. [SPEAKER_01]: So hey, what's your hardest time the release? [SPEAKER_00]: Just go ahead. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, she did go deep about her pain. [SPEAKER_00]: She did talk about causing pain, you know, for her children. [SPEAKER_00]: And she does say that, you know, Lydia going public.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's a whole separate issue that they're working with. [SPEAKER_00]: There's just something about when Kim, I guess, is being vulnerable. [SPEAKER_00]: This still feels like there's something missing. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it is. [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it's just how she is, how she was raised.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, don't cry, take it on the chin. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't want to say it. [SPEAKER_01]: There seems to be some distance. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: There's some distance in which I can understand. [SPEAKER_01]: This is a very traumatic experience that happened.

[SPEAKER_01]: It probably is a bit of self-protection to distance yourself from what actually happened on that day. [SPEAKER_01]: But it does feel like she's not fully connected to it in the way that you might expect. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'm glad you see that too because I was like, it's just me, but yeah Dr. Ty says that They not only lost the sibling, but they also lost their mom for some time and it's important for For her to give them space to allow them to say what they need to say I don't know what she's saying day.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's only one kid that wants to talk the rest of them right just like whatever makes mom happy [SPEAKER_00]: Kim says that she tried to give the old kids space and to do their thing, but she needs to set boundaries on Lydia, which she can't say publicly. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you want to work things out or do you not?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, pick a link. [SPEAKER_01]: because she almost said, she doesn't have the right to talk about that. [SPEAKER_01]: She said, some other, she used some other word instead, but it was like, I forget what word she put in there instead, but very much what she was saying is like, you aren't, you don't have the right to discuss this in public.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're not allowed to do that as if it's not what she was saying. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: She says, um, Dr. Ty says like they need their mom and even though she thinks that she might have been present, but she was not available. [SPEAKER_00]: And even if it's a play by play that they want and you're sitting there, like she has to sit there because they need her to be there.

[SPEAKER_00]: She does say if it's internal and morning is external. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, ooh. [SPEAKER_00]: Mom, Dr. Ty, come on. [SPEAKER_00]: Laura's knowledge. [SPEAKER_00]: So she gives her an idea. [SPEAKER_00]: And she tells her, like, maybe you just tell it as a story to Joshua. [SPEAKER_00]: And just say, like, this day was supposed to be XYZ, but it ended up being XYZ.

[SPEAKER_00]: And Kim is a lot of things, but this was so heavy. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, this was she was sobbing at this point. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, parents should ever have to lose a child, but to lose a child that you own hands. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And to lose how that your own hands and for you to be the one to see the immediate aftermath, those are images that are never going to get out of your head.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I always say like there's not all traumas can be worked through. [SPEAKER_00]: She just turned to live with someone just with you, that just with that like a hug in the sweater. [SPEAKER_00]: Kim does say that the worst part about it is just how graphic it was and what she saw. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the part that just lives with her and she finds it very hard to talk about, which is understandable, honestly, which is completely understandable.

[SPEAKER_00]: So when they're done, she says she'll try and she leaves and immediately calls Lydia in the car. [SPEAKER_00]: I have questions about this because she tells her she's ready to talk about Joshua and tells her to come by Saturday. [SPEAKER_00]: In my mind, they have to set up call times, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: They have to have the times. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, on Saturday, so how did she leave immediately and that was already set up or that was already pre-plan and they tell Dr. Ty to give her the assignments or am I worth [SPEAKER_01]: So it could have been like authentic, I'm like, call you, she doesn't know that I'm calling.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how busy the power restaurant is. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but yeah, I did. [SPEAKER_01]: I often have questions about, like, how do you schedule this kind of stuff production wise, too? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, but now that I think about it, it was a surprise party, so no, she didn't know, Lydia didn't know it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so that's how we find out that, you know, they're doing a surprise party to celebrate their first anniversary, but they also want to address the whole then being holier than now. [SPEAKER_00]: And D-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A- [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go for the high school.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why she decides to have the intervention on the day. [SPEAKER_00]: They're celebrating their anniversary. [SPEAKER_00]: So if you're wedding day wasn't bad, let's want off. [SPEAKER_00]: Let's have you first anniversary. [SPEAKER_00]: It's terrible. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so, finally, we've been talking about this for so long, Brian, but she acknowledges that Lydia and Zach are living the values that, you know, Lydia was taught growing up.

[SPEAKER_00]: So is it hypocritical of her to say that they're being judgmental, but she's like, well, the difference is you have to teach your children. [SPEAKER_00]: No matter what it is, we're teaching her at children, but in this case, they're sitting down with other adults and telling them what to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thoughts? [SPEAKER_01]: I wish I could for a minute something to do with this all just this whole situation is made me so uncomfortable all of it. [SPEAKER_00]: It's making it uncomfortable. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, the the the anniversary aspect of yes, the the fact that the whole family goes into this like, okay, I'm really going to let them have it like all of that I'm just like.

[SPEAKER_01]: y'all are bad people. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but Lydia and Zach, yeah, they got problems. [SPEAKER_01]: Got it, they have issues with the rest. [SPEAKER_01]: They don't deserve this, this is bad. [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no good intention in any of this. [SPEAKER_00]: This is just like adamant, like even if you want to say production says it's a moment to have all of you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody was like, I'm not doing that to my sister. [SPEAKER_00]: came is not like I'm not doing that to my child and came knows exactly what she's doing because why didn't you tell Ben well she talks about it let's get there but uh she says that Isaac Mitobench where they're gonna carve Joshua's initials in there but but first we have to clear the air first like it's very important for it to remind us that they have to clear the air and they're gonna do all that [SPEAKER_00]: So she continues to say like she thinks it's wonderful that Lydia and Zach want to honor God, but the rub is telling people how to live and it's important to men things with Lydia I you counting this is number 156 so

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any thoughts on can breeding one of the younger daughters here and why I have a lot of thoughts my first thought is I don't like that My second thought is you're gonna fuck this up. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't it made me really uncomfortable I don't know why he was doing it. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why she wanted him to do it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he knew what he was doing it [SPEAKER_01]: Barry is their blood father he would never do this I can't imagine so no all of this is really weird to me [SPEAKER_00]: That is what I was thinking because if there wasn't like 5,000 sisters in the house, they're all in town, that would be a different thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: Why does he have to brush and braid? [SPEAKER_00]: Why did they think that's an include of all people? [SPEAKER_00]: Why did you do want to make this man part of the show? [SPEAKER_00]: So that was just like a choice. [SPEAKER_00]: Like we have, we finally have a story that we're milking, what we didn't did this.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is a cut and uncut, not a gem. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, get that, get that weirdo here, [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let me take a quick break and I'll be right back and we are back. [SPEAKER_00]: Kim comes in, tells T again, hey can I talk to you upstairs and T again is like, oh did I do something back?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like why she wanted to talk to me? [SPEAKER_00]: Kim tells, Kim tells us that she wants to check that T again is okay before they bring up the things because there's some things that were also said, [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, this is more than she's ever done with Lydia. [SPEAKER_00]: She has never been delicate with Lydia to check like are you okay, like how are you feeling because the thing about it, I'm not a parent, but even I know in human relations that you're not going to treat each child the same.

[SPEAKER_00]: Every child has different needs. [SPEAKER_00]: So you should cater to that and just because you run to Ethan and tell him stuff and he decides to storm off and break things. [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't mean that's the same way you're going to treat Lydia. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what Candle is doing ever.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is so everything just is weird to me. [SPEAKER_00]: So annoyed. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, taking at least has to decency because she's of soundmine and says, yeah, I don't want to bring up anything that's to do with me because I don't think today is the best time to talk about it. [SPEAKER_00]: But that's the other thing we always say.

[SPEAKER_00]: These people don't have social cues. [SPEAKER_00]: They really don't. [SPEAKER_00]: And they're not available in it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they have to believe it. [SPEAKER_01]: The actions bizarre at all times. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So taking this like, yeah, it's the best time to talk about, I don't think it's the best time to talk about it and I don't want to ruin anything for anybody.

[SPEAKER_00]: And King jumps right past that. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, she never said anything. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, yeah, you can guess it. [SPEAKER_00]: I just feel we have to clear the air. [SPEAKER_00]: Did that, did it's pollution? [SPEAKER_00]: And she is the EPA and she's going to clear the air today.

[SPEAKER_01]: She said, yeah, well, anyway, here we go. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, oh my God. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: As if that wasn't bad enough, Brian, they decided to show us a creepy as picture, a painting on the wall of a blonde girl like the, on the 70s and the print ads holding a soap bar that says beauty.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: The hell out. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why they did that. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, we have a choice. [SPEAKER_00]: We have a confrontation coming. [SPEAKER_00]: We have Ken Braiding here. [SPEAKER_00]: Then we have this girl, blonde girl holding a bar soap, saying beauty is becoming a harsha.

[SPEAKER_00]: Side of an alley. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, this is, again, American Pickers is the decor of this house. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, yeah, you found that in a barn, like covered in like a torpe, or some shit, it's weird you have this. [SPEAKER_00]: So they decide that they are going to have this intervention.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I am like, why the heck is can't involved? [SPEAKER_01]: Shouldn't be, shouldn't be there. [SPEAKER_00]: It's seen there. [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, there's need to be here for us. [SPEAKER_00]: Even Barry's a spectator. [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't get to sit beside, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: This is just, can't even talk and both need to get the fuck out of here.

[SPEAKER_01]: What do you guys hear? [SPEAKER_00]: They have messed up this children for life and it's not irreparable. [SPEAKER_00]: It's really irreparable at this point. [SPEAKER_01]: It is. [SPEAKER_00]: Ethan says that he told Tegan, so she's not surprised, but no, we're not telling the Lydia. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there are how many siblings and none of the siblings is like, nah, I'm not doing that to my sister.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna tell her, like you can do whatever you want, but Kim was like, she didn't want to not tell her so that they wouldn't come, so they wouldn't feel any type of way, and I'm like, okay, you knew what you were doing. [SPEAKER_00]: But even says he doesn't want them to feel like they're sitting down to beat them up.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, so what are you doing? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sweet, they're clearing there. [SPEAKER_00]: My bad. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want them to think that we're doing that, because they'll know it's coming. [SPEAKER_00]: Barry, who's in Lala Land all the time is like, oh, I know is we are talking about Joshua and, you know, we're gonna see, I think it might be good for the kids.

[SPEAKER_00]: Talk about Joshua. [SPEAKER_00]: Mary comes by surprise surprise and says, yeah, I'm just gonna go in and bake a cake. [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, I want no part of this. [SPEAKER_00]: Even though she was part of the complaints. [SPEAKER_00]: Last time you because how would they have heard about it, but I don't know she's like, I don't want any part of this.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go big a cake for them. [SPEAKER_00]: They go into the kitchen and she's helping Amber. [SPEAKER_00]: We are a fans of Amber on here. [SPEAKER_00]: We're just waiting for her to be an adult and just see what path she takes with this. [SPEAKER_00]: But Amber reiterates that She shouldn't have oh, she tells her side of the story of what happened and she's like they were just saying like they shouldn't have done this around her [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they talked about it in the car on the way to the airport, but instead of just stopping there, Zach decides to set listing all the things that they did wrong, what they're with.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Thing. [SPEAKER_00]: Zach is one of those people who's just naturally annoying. [SPEAKER_00]: He's gifted in that regard, like you don't have to do much, and he's just annoying, and he doesn't know when to stop. [SPEAKER_00]: And Amber tells him, like, listen, it's not your place to say all of these things.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if it came from Lydia, okay, we would listen. [SPEAKER_00]: We know her intentions. [SPEAKER_00]: She's our sister. [SPEAKER_00]: We know who she is. [SPEAKER_00]: But he insists that it is his place. [SPEAKER_00]: It is my place to say something. [SPEAKER_00]: And Lydia is crying at this point.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, is this why it wasn't filmed? [SPEAKER_00]: I just, did they think it would be so bad? [SPEAKER_00]: It would be a bad look for Zach. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe, but I don't think of production as being that protective of Zack, but I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Is it Moriah? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to feel. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: She got some of your problems. [SPEAKER_01]: It could be her. [SPEAKER_00]: So. [SPEAKER_00]: They sit and Kim immediately goes up to Lydia bringing up her deepest darkest feelings and talking about this is why she thinks they divorce and I'm like, again, why did you not call your daughter privately and ask this question?

[SPEAKER_00]: You already shamed her among her siblings, but you decided we're going to put her in a public execution and just do all that to her. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're trying to damage her this time. [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the whole explanation I have for it. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they're mad that people like her and it directed them get a lot of fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: It can be. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, they make sense for this one. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, even chimes in and it's like, yeah, I didn't like it. [SPEAKER_00]: Like you've been thinking, you're the ones who said, like, if you had anything, you should talk to us first before we go public. [SPEAKER_00]: And he says, like, for me, I for one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like talking about Joshua publicly. [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm like, yeah, we know Ethan, none of that has worked for you. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't talk about anything. [SPEAKER_00]: So, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Anything, you own one shirt. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: He keeps going.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, you know, mom already gets shit for how they raised us. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not fair that she had to deal with this. [SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, boy moms are never beating the allegations because I swear I saw Kim beaming with pride. [SPEAKER_00]: I swear I swear I swear it's working like, that's my boy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just like I taught him. [SPEAKER_00]: And Barry is like, what is happening? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I did not expect this. [SPEAKER_00]: What do we talk about? [SPEAKER_00]: I thought we said, we're just talking about Joshua how it affected us. [SPEAKER_00]: Lydia at this point is tearing up, but she's not saying a word, she's taking on the chin.

[SPEAKER_00]: And Kim says, you know, if you're gonna go on a podcast and talk about me, then at least you should give me a heads up. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think that's fair. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna say that's not fair. [SPEAKER_00]: Like if there's a, [SPEAKER_00]: situation, but we all know that sometimes you go in there.

[SPEAKER_00]: One question leads to another. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like anything that you prepare to. [SPEAKER_00]: And yes, you have the option of saying, I don't want to speak for her, so I'd rather not, but these things happen. [SPEAKER_00]: Give your daughter grace. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And that response comes from like, you know, training.

[SPEAKER_01]: You get trained in how to handle like press and publicity. [SPEAKER_01]: And if you're not somebody who's done a lot of these interviews, you go into it having a conversation. [SPEAKER_01]: You don't go into it with a plan of, here's how I'm going to address this. [SPEAKER_01]: And there's I'm gonna phrase that so I don't get in trouble.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't, you know, upset people around me. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just I was asked a question and so I answered it. [SPEAKER_01]: Because she hasn't done like media training on how to avoid doing that sometimes. [SPEAKER_00]: Um... [SPEAKER_00]: Lydia, they do an on the fly confessional in Lydia mentions like she's not really talking about it like they talked about it in the car with her mom, but didn't talk about it much, but she didn't need to because she thinks that Zach has been her safe place and she got everything off her chest on there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we've talked about this brand where it gives me concern that she's making Zach her everything like she doesn't even use her brain. [SPEAKER_01]: Now, ladies and gentlemen, how the Emmy just will roll the rules on my mouthpiece, I say what he wants me to say. [SPEAKER_00]: Lydia immediately apologizes.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is classic reality TV massacloss. [SPEAKER_00]: I keep you she learns. [SPEAKER_00]: She apologizes. [SPEAKER_00]: She's not defensive. [SPEAKER_00]: And she said, you know, the thing for the divorce, it's like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why you guys broke up.

[SPEAKER_00]: You dropped a bomb on me. [SPEAKER_00]: So I was left to speculate. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what he could have been. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he didn't tell me. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm old enough to take care of the children for you and be a parent since you guys decided you're checking out. [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not old enough.

[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't say all this guy. [SPEAKER_00]: This is all me. [SPEAKER_00]: Extra. [SPEAKER_00]: But you didn't tell me, but you didn't tell me what the reason is you don't think I'm old enough for you to actually give me substance so I can process this because if you guys remember Lydia is the person who struggled the most with this divorce and she's like, what is happening right now so all she said she was emotionally wrecked by it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, her hair closet. [SPEAKER_00]: She all she said was she was left to speculate about the divorce and she didn't have much detail. [SPEAKER_00]: She said she's sorry that it hurt her that she didn't know the question was going to come up and she didn't think it all the way through. [SPEAKER_00]: Barry iterates and says like, hey, that the divorce was just between the reasons was between him and Kim.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it had nothing to do with Joshua, and Kim does say that Barry has always been supportive of her when he comes to Joshua, which I'm kind of glad she has that. [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine having a spouse who is just blaming you. [SPEAKER_00]: That's double. [SPEAKER_01]: Everything and really it could have gone that route because it was at your hand.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so that that very much could have been the outcome that she wound up with. [SPEAKER_00]: Can I say, though, if it was flipped, wouldn't Kim do that? [SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't she do? [SPEAKER_01]: Are you kidding me? [SPEAKER_01]: Kim? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Kim would get like Joshua tattooed across her chest and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like it would be, and then like have a sign in the bathroom saying, you did it or something like it would be awful. [SPEAKER_01]: She would not handle it any kind of grace at all. [SPEAKER_00]: So while she's saying that exact decides to step in for his woman and, you know, she tried to talk to you about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't had the opportunity to confide in you and I just know the Plath family was. [SPEAKER_00]: Fiumi, like shut up. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God. [SPEAKER_00]: Outside her. [SPEAKER_01]: How'd you hit her you? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think you are? [SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha.

[SPEAKER_00]: Kim is like, yeah, I disagree. [SPEAKER_00]: I tried to talk to her. [SPEAKER_00]: I tried to talk to her in the car. [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't want to say anything and she was quiet and I'm like, [SPEAKER_00]: Kim, you are the parent. [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you always trying to blame Lydia?

[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you trying to make it equal? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, 50, 50 blame. [SPEAKER_00]: Or you are the parent. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you are the one who made the pivot. [SPEAKER_00]: You raised this girl in one way. [SPEAKER_00]: Now you're blaming her for believing in the things that you taught her and you're not even trying to meet her halfway and you're saying you want to make things work, but everything you're doing is you're the ops.

[SPEAKER_00]: Really? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: No, she, you, you, you raised her to be a certain way. [SPEAKER_01]: You've changed. [SPEAKER_01]: Now you're, you're mad at her for doing the things that you wanted her to do. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll, she, I don't know why she hates her like this.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like we haven't seen Lydia do anything to deserve scorn from a mom like this. [SPEAKER_00]: She is triggered by her. [SPEAKER_00]: The same reason that she kinda didn't like Olivia, she is a reminder of like, I wasted all my years. [SPEAKER_00]: I believed in something, and now she sees her daughter, and she's not really sure like, okay, now I've switched.

[SPEAKER_00]: I believe in primarital sex. [SPEAKER_00]: I can wear short skirts and do drinks, sugar, or whatever the hell it is. [SPEAKER_00]: But her, and she's like, but is that really the path? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still not as happy as I thought that I was going to be? [SPEAKER_00]: And then you see the daughter who's like, [SPEAKER_00]: And she's feeling judged because you don't feel like, you don't really believe in your convictions.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're not like really fully believing what it is that the path that you're walking. [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like a reminder of walking reminder to her that this is the other part. [SPEAKER_00]: Because deep down inside, she's probably like, oh my god. [SPEAKER_00]: Am I sinning? [SPEAKER_00]: Am I still doing like what am I doing?

[SPEAKER_00]: And even though she's not judging her She feels like Lydia is judging her. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe she is but you got to give Lydia some credit Like she's still in the bubble her head is still in the clouds like I don't make that's her intention Zach, maybe but Zach is also clueless like the man has no social cues Yeah, yeah, the right thing Do the one of them are equipped for any of this [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, as if that wasn't enough.

[SPEAKER_00]: She's the girl already apologized. [SPEAKER_00]: She already took responsibility, Isaac. [SPEAKER_00]: Man in the house is like, well, you know, just try to talk to her before you do anything publicly. [SPEAKER_00]: And she got it. [SPEAKER_00]: She knows. [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know? [SPEAKER_01]: Understood. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, heard. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, hold it. [SPEAKER_00]: So Lydia says she wants to do better, and she understands that Ethan saying, like, you know, let's celebrate Joshua's life, not the tragedy of his death, but it affected her in every way.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was so stressful, like it's still stressful in her life. [SPEAKER_00]: She's still stressed out by siren, but they just can't talk about the good stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: And basically, they want her to deal with stuff the way they do. [SPEAKER_00]: Brush it under the carpet and act like you never existed because it's working out so well for them.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God. [SPEAKER_00]: So, everything's fine, the meme, the goal is not to pick on her, but, and this is where I know that this woman is vindictive. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not to pick on you, but is anybody else out there? [SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything else anybody else wants to share? [SPEAKER_00]: And that sent me over the roof because this is a pre orchestrated meeting.

[SPEAKER_00]: There was a plan. [SPEAKER_00]: There were things to say, so don't act. [SPEAKER_00]: like nobody else has anything to say when people do have something to say and oh my god I thought what's the pile on quick? [SPEAKER_00]: I feel so bad for Lydia. [SPEAKER_00]: She was struggling to keep it together because I was an ambush.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was an ambush. [SPEAKER_00]: She came in with her donut and her coffee who am I going to sit beside and it's like you're family hates you and they're just not even trying and honestly [SPEAKER_00]: Bullshit that Mariah decided not to be a part of this because if you want to come in there and go behind your family And I feel judged ever if you guys don't feel comfortable in the choices you're making in your life Don't take it out on Lydia if you're comfortable with your drinking if it's not excessive because no one wants to tell each other to truth If Mariah we don't know I'm not saying that she does if she does have a drinking problem or she's drinking too much Nobody [SPEAKER_00]: Amber said, maybe if he comes from Lydia, so Lydia did tell her and she has a problem with it too, still and you feel like you're being judged.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you're not even staying there to stand up for your sister, knowing what was gonna happen, that's a sign. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's terrible, so I, 100% know all of this. [SPEAKER_00]: Lydia run just I know like everyone thinks on family forever blood thick of the water But if they're bringing on rusty a life take your piece even if Zach is a weirdo You should basically marry her dad take him and go and find your happiness Where's she now?

[SPEAKER_00]: Colorado or something go. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, and be happy Hosanna seems to be doing fine. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that is your model like that's your model [SPEAKER_00]: Is Hazara older than Eden or she's right? [SPEAKER_01]: I think so, I think she's the oldest. [SPEAKER_01]: I think. [SPEAKER_00]: So does she not talk to them at all or she just doesn't want to be in the show?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine she's just going to be on the show, but I guess I don't know, because I mean, if you just don't want to be on the show, well, I was going to say you're missing a lot of like family celebrations that don't really do like Christmas and things or the new things giving, and she wasn't there for the wedding and stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like, you're missing stuff if you're just not part of this, but I guess I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, guys. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think, please let me know is Hosanna on speaking terms with the family, and what does Barry do for work or for money? [SPEAKER_00]: He's the only influencer.

[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing is going to make me follow Barry. [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot look at that mug all the time. [SPEAKER_00]: So, please let me know. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: That's daddy influencer. [SPEAKER_00]: So, he thinks as, yeah, I got something to say. [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted Claire to critiques to the younger kids.

[SPEAKER_00]: The way they say younger kids, like, and I digress. [SPEAKER_00]: and that Zack has interjected himself in frivolous things and it's an overstep that he doesn't want him saying things to them. [SPEAKER_00]: Zack in a confession was like it's so ironic that he's bringing up his conflicts when he has brought them to him and he said nothing.

[SPEAKER_00]: that, you know, he threw him out of the house. [SPEAKER_00]: He called him gay, but Lydia's like, he could have said anything. [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted, he was like, but I don't because I want to move forward and I want him to be like a brother to me. [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is like, what is that does say?

[SPEAKER_00]: When I do something wrong, he's so detailed and now he just decides he would speak up for the family and be the man of the house. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think like, their dad is not there, but I don't know, Barry doesn't care about him. [SPEAKER_01]: He's just smiling like an idiot. [SPEAKER_00]: So he's just like, so now I'm a problem for the family.

[SPEAKER_00]: Cool, got it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to say anything anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to stay in my lane. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is an overwhelming family. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know why I don't want to date someone. [SPEAKER_00]: There's a member of this family. [SPEAKER_00]: Because they're just going to run you out again.

[SPEAKER_00]: They want to keep to themselves and let's help them keep it that way. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_01]: If you come into this family, they're going to make you the problem eventually. [SPEAKER_01]: It may not be immediately. [SPEAKER_01]: But at some point, you're going to become the problem.

[SPEAKER_01]: And all the guns are going to be turned on you. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sure if Tegan was even considering giving Ethan another chance after this. [SPEAKER_00]: Shrubba, yeah, yeah, I did, no thanks. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exit stage left real quick here. [SPEAKER_00]: That was it, so I'm glad that we kind of got something because I was very, very pessimistic after the last episode of nothing that happened.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see where this goes. [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to stretch out this intervention. [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know how you do this and it's like happy one year anniversary. [SPEAKER_00]: All right, Amber come out with the cake because she's like, oh, do they know the cake is for them.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't watch your cake. [SPEAKER_00]: You're part of this. [SPEAKER_00]: So So we're in this cake. [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see. [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what happens. [SPEAKER_00]: So okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Any final thoughts? [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I'm looking forward to seeing how this season wraps up because finally got some momentum going.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, thanks as always for joining guys. [SPEAKER_00]: If you have any thoughts, if you have any questions and the mover, all the social media handles are Tain Talks, T-A-Y-N-E-T-A-L-K-S. Until next time, guys. [SPEAKER_00]: Bye. [UNKNOWN]: Bye. [SPEAKER_01]: Bye. [SPEAKER_00]: Three, two, one, one, one, one, time.

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