Joanna Kavenna: How To Play A Game Without Rules

<p>My guest in this week’s <em>Book Club</em> is Joanna Kavenna, who talks about her witty, philosophically riddling new novel <em>Seven: Or, How To Play A Game Without Rules</em>. She tells me about taking her bearings from Italo Calvino, making up a board game and then being the world’s worst player at it, how AI challenges our sense of ourselves – and how Morten Harket found his way into her fiction.</p><p>Become a <em>Spectator </em>subscriber today to access this podcast without adverts. Go to <a href="spectator.co.uk/follow-your-podcasts/"; rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spectator.co.uk/adfree</a> to find out more.</p><br><p>For more <em>Spectator</em> podcasts, go to <a href="spectator.co.uk/podcasts/"; rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spectator.co.uk/podcasts</a></p><br><p>Contact us: podcast@spectator.co.uk</p>

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