LEFTIST Joe Rogan, Pepper Spray Is Golden 09.22.26

0:05 Damn, you wearing rings, bro?

0:07 Yeah, yeah. Damn, bro.

0:09 Been having rings.

0:09 I didn't see that pinky ring. You fucking do drugs, huh?

0:13 Shit opens up. Little tiny ones. Damn. Nah, that's what I got that for, you know?

0:17 B12.

0:17 Yeah, yeah.

0:20 LA, baby. Yeah, I'm like, yo, check out my pee.

0:21 Come in here, bro. It's bright green.

0:23 Is that what B12 does to you?

0:25 Yo, B vitamins can make your.

0:27 Turns your pee green? Yeah.

0:29 It looks like engine coolant. Is that why people take it?

0:34 I dig it. Just have cool, cool pee. Yeah, maybe.

0:36 Vitamin B, pee color.

0:38 Yeah.

0:39 Yeah, it's just bright neon or fluorescent yellow. You can turn people to shit.

0:43 This is fucked up.

0:44 Yeah, do that with some asparagus, bro.

0:46 You know what I mean?

0:47 Cooking up some real shit.

0:49 Date night.

0:50 Date night, baby. Babe, come in here. Come in here. I got a surprise for you. What? No, in the bathroom. Come in the bathroom.

0:56 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

0:59 That's the secret of the ooze. Everybody says the second sequel didn't have a real secret to the ooze. That was it.

1:05 There it is.

1:06 Vitamin B. Vitamin B. Turn your pee bright green.

1:10 Get that vitamin D.

1:12 Get that vitamin D.

1:13 No.

1:13 Famous Ninja Turtles line. From Donatello. I mean, if it was Donatello. From the Oprah episode. Yeah.

1:19 The turtles I pulled up on that Oprah episode would have definitely been talking about giving April vitamin D for sure.

1:25 That was crazy. You ever see that?

1:27 No.

1:27 The Ninja Turtles came on Oprah and it was like.

1:31 No, not like that.

1:32 What?

1:33 They appeared on the show.

1:34 They're so childish, this fool.

1:36 Tell the story. Oh, sorry.

1:38 I just got caught up.

1:39 Sorry.

1:39 That's what she said. Tell me.

1:41 Here we go.

1:43 They came on Oprah doing an appearance. I can't even.

1:50 12 forever, bro. All men are 12 forever.

1:52 Yo, I realized that too. I just went to the Weird Al Yankovic live show.

1:56 Oh my God. And I was like, yeah, we're here.

1:57 All 12 forever.

1:58 We're here and we're stunted as well.

2:00 Sorry. Go ahead. So Miles and this Weird Al show.

2:02 I want SNL to do a Weird AI Yankovic show.

2:06 Come on.

2:06 So many people, I posted, I said, go to the Weird Al show, and they said, Weird AI?

2:10 And I was like, no.

2:12 Yeah.

2:12 You gotta groan. A lot of people were like, no, Weird Al.

2:16 They need to address that. Tell this dumb story that nobody wants to hear.

2:23 Go ahead.

2:25 Getting cummed on by the Ninja Turtles?

2:28 Essentially. They went on, and they were like, riffing. And it was like, you know, these are not necessarily improvisers. And so somebody asked... These are not necessarily.

2:38 It's a really polite way to say what you're saying.

2:41 And so... Scathing review. Somebody was like, are you... Something about April. And they were like, oh, yeah, I'm into April. She's into the cross-species thing.

2:50 I've been trying to convince her of an inter-species relationship for a long time.

2:54 And then they cut back to Oprah.

2:56 Is this how Kash Patel... Those are his early influences. He saw that interview.

3:00 That would be amazing because they cut back and it's Oprah and these little kids just like looking like their blood has just drained out of their face. That would be amazing if we could like go in and like Cash Patel is in the back. They're heroes. Fuck. In a half shell.

3:18 And I have the other half.

3:27 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 457, Episode 2 of Dirt Ailey Zeitgeist! Yes! It's a production of... iHeartRadio. Podcast where we take a deep dive... What the fuck was that? Is that right? iHeartRadio? Podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness?

3:45 Yep, there you go.

3:46 Through the day's... News. News! Okay. We also have a new, non-news, history version of the Daily Zeitgeist dropping... Each morning. Mm-hmm. Monday morning.

3:58 Monday morning.

3:59 Specifically. Yeah. Where we talk about the Zeitgeist through the lens of a different pop cultural deity, such as this week, we did Oprah.

4:07 Oprah.

4:07 That's why we had the Oprah thing on lock. And a couple weeks ago, we did the Ninja Turtles. Oh. Yeah. And next, we're going to do Aprilonio. Actually, yeah.

4:18 Yeah.

4:19 We're going to do April O'Neil. We're going to do April O'Neil. You said it, bro.

4:25 You said it.

4:26 But anyways, you can check those out. The Oprah episode, a lot of fun with Bridget Todd. Just dropped on Monday morning. But right now, right here, it is... Tuesday, September 22nd.

4:37 Tuesday, September 22nd.

4:39 National Ice Cream Cone Day. Okay.

4:42 It's Chain Mail Day. Shout out all the knights in armor out there. International Day of Radiant Peace. Hobbit Day. National Centenarians Day. Shout out to everybody who's 100 and plus years old.

4:55 100 and plus. Yeah.

4:58 National White Chocolate Day. Shout out Jason Williams. And World Rhino Day.

5:02 That is Jason Williams' day, right?

5:03 Well, I think it is for the actual chocolate. But in this house, there is one white chocolate. That is Jason Williams' point card for the Sacramento Kings.

5:10 Pass behind the back. Off the elbow? Through it behind his back.

5:13 Did you know he was Randy Moss' high school classmate?

5:17 These are the things that we know about him.

5:19 Yeah, from a Nike commercial.

5:21 My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host. He's Mr. Miles.

5:28 Yes!

5:29 Straight off Lancashire Boulevard, the Lord of Lancashire, the Shogun with no gun, the experimental artist, black and these artists, your boy Kusama. Thank you so much for having me.

5:38 Not me.

5:39 Not your boy, Kusama, but yeah, yo, Kusama.

5:41 All right.

5:43 But I'm on my own thing.

5:44 I got my own thing going on.

5:45 So I don't really need to bring her into the whole thing.

5:47 I didn't mean to imply. Even though I'm trading off the name. I didn't mean to imply that you're not immortal. Thank you. Thank you. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our very favorite guests. One of your very favorite guests, a writer, actor, one of the funniest stand-up comedians doing it, has an incredible stand-up special called Bitch Grow Up. And you can and must go watch that on Max. You can also...

6:07 See her on a stage near you. Go check her website. And also in a little thing called Abbott Elementary. I don't know. Ever heard of it?

6:16 Yeah, I've heard of it.

6:16 It's the hilarious, the talented Marcella Arguello! Marcella! I'm back.

6:23 Here I am, IRL, here to terrorize the boys.

6:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

6:27 Exactly what you guys always tell me you want to hear. Every time you come see me live, you go, keep terrorizing Jack.

6:35 What? The most constant thing you hear. That's the only thing I heard. Keep doing what you're doing.

6:38 Keep doing what you're doing. We love when you terrorize him.

6:40 Pump the shit out of him.

6:41 Sells more tickets. We'll come back and see ya.

6:42 There you go.

6:43 There you go.

6:43 Shout out to the listeners.

6:45 Yeah. Yeah.

6:46 You've been on the road a lot?

6:47 Yeah, I've been touring this year. I'm actually doing my final tour date, Fargo, North Dakota, October 2nd and 3rd.

6:54 Nice.

6:54 Please come out and see me.

6:56 Have you been out?

6:56 What's that like?

6:57 I have no idea. I don't know if I will sell any tickets.

7:01 I'm sure. Get out there, Fargo.

7:02 Fargo Zeitgang.

7:03 Hell yeah.

7:04 Don't be scared of me. Fargo Zeitgang, get your ass out there. Can I tell you, Zeitgang is the best audience. I've heard. Now, Abbott Elementary fans are coming and they are equally great.

7:16 Oh, yeah.

7:16 And it's so nice to have people of different backgrounds coming in to see me and they're smart. They're silly and they're down for whatever.

7:24 Shout out.

7:25 Sometimes a whole audience, a whole room will not be laughing and there'll be a table of three people laughing their ass off and I'll be like, what's your guys' deal? They're like, we're Zyte Gang.

7:33 I'm like, yeah, you get it.

7:35 What are y'all, high or something?

7:37 We're Zyte Gang.

7:38 Oh, okay.

7:38 There are these top heads over here. It's tight. I love it.

7:42 So shout out to you guys.

7:43 Shout out Zyte Gang. We do have some competition though. It sounds like.

7:46 Abbott Elementary.

7:46 I feel like there's overlap.

7:47 To get bigger than Abbott Elementary.

7:50 All right.

7:50 I think there's some overlap.

7:51 In some of those fans. No, I'm going to take this in a toxic direction. Fuck Africa. I'm in. Downloads, zero. Fuck.

8:00 Damn, we should have picked a better opponent than that one.

8:03 It's so odd when our comedian friends come on and talk about how great our audiences are because we've done live shows and it's crickets.

8:12 But they're saying they laugh.

8:14 Really hard at their show.

8:16 Um, yeah.

8:23 Anyways, Marcella, we're thrilled to have you here. We're in person in case you couldn't tell from the vibes.

8:28 The boys are very happy. They have boners. You can't see it, but I can.

8:34 There it is. Someone's knocking on heaven's door. You said boners like Oprah. We have boners!

8:42 And you get a boner.

8:43 And you get a boner.

8:44 And you get a boner.

8:45 Everyone has boners.

8:46 People magically go, holy shit. I didn't know I had a penis.

8:51 Look on your lap. 65-year-old man's like, I haven't had a boner in decades.

8:55 Why just a single tear?

8:57 That's what we do. We make magic here.

9:00 Yeah. Well, damn.

9:01 You're doing it already.

9:02 Well. We're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment by asking you some questions that are completely out of left field that you've never heard before. Until then, though, we do like to ask or tell our listeners some of the things we might be talking about on this episode.

9:18 We got to catch up with the Logan Brothers, you know? What's going on with the Logan Brothers, bro?

9:22 What happened?

9:23 So we're going to check in with them. We're going to check in with Tilly Norwood. Just two quick clips up top. If you haven't seen them, we will link off to those in the footnotes so you can go check them out. We're going to talk about this person who pepper sprayed people for using their phones in a movie theater. Generally, I am against people using their phones in a movie theater. I'm not this against using your phone in a movie theater, however.

9:45 We'll figure out where we are on the spectrum of your pepper spraying a motherfucker at the AMC 16 in Burbank.

9:49 In the dark. Like, I don't know. Yeah. We're going to talk about the elephant graveyard video that appears to be giving Joe Rogan some ideas. We don't bring that. You can't bring them over with honey. You've got to take them down, tear them down to their very foundations before they start getting good ideas.

10:09 Sure.

10:09 It turns out. Anyways, we'll talk about that. We'll have that plenty more. But first, Marcella, we do like to ask our guest, is there something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

10:20 The last thing I Googled is calling Kaepernick's age. Oh. Because I.

10:26 Is that a quote?

10:27 No. I don't know what the quote was.

10:29 He said recently, he's like, I'm better than a lot of quarterbacks still.

10:32 Yeah. Oh, I believe that.

10:33 Because when I thought that, I'm like, I wonder how old he is. That was my first time.

10:35 I'm like, yeah, how much?

10:36 I don't really listen to those kind of... I don't know what any of that means.

10:39 Yeah, yeah. You're not calling into Mike and the Mad Dogs?

10:41 You're like, with this quarterback play.

10:44 Hey, Marcelo here. First time, long time, huh?

10:48 No, I just was like, I've been watching. I'm excited about his book, right? It's already came out. My homie who works at a bookstore was going to send me one of the free copies. But then my friend, he takes us to see him at a book signing and a talk in Chicago at the end of October and comes with a signed book. So I was like, oh, my gosh, I can't wait to see him. Like, I'm going to be yelling 209 because he's from the 209.

11:11 And then I was like, and then I watched him. I was watching him on the Trevor Noah podcast. You know when you're just watching somebody and you just start realizing, like, am I older than this person that I admire so much?

11:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:22 Because I really, I've admired him a long time. But I just started being like, he kind of talks like kind of a little young.

11:28 Yeah, yeah.

11:29 And he's younger than me.

11:31 He's 37. Yeah. Okay.

11:32 But it's not too much younger than me.

11:34 I'm 42.

11:35 But I, it just made me, I started feeling feelings.

11:37 What did he say?

11:38 What did he, what was like the first thing that he said that kind of caught your ear?

11:41 It's not that he was saying, it was just more the way he was speaking.

11:43 It's like, there's a youthful exuberance that has been drilled out of.

11:46 Me at my age. What is that in his eyes? Is that light?

11:49 That's exactly what it was. You know, and then you just start calculating because I was like, what? Because he's from the Central Valley. He's from Turlock. I'm from Modesto, which is like 15 minutes apart. And the stuff he was talking about, I was like, oh, this was also my experience. You know, I'm not Black. He's half Black, but I'm not Black. But we have very similar... Once you're in like those type of red areas, you're everybody's Black, you know, to white people that are conservative.

12:11 It's like, are you white or.

12:14 Anything else.

12:14 The one drop rule.

12:16 From El Salvador. Yeah.

12:18 We call that.

12:19 So I.

12:21 Just got curious. Because I also know that we're almost the same height, too. So I was like, I'm about to be annoying as fuck if I get to actually meet him. Because I don't know if the book comes pre-signed or if I get to get it signed.

12:30 Right.

12:31 Um, and I get to interact with him, but I was like, I'm going to be yelling 209. And then I was like, wait a minute. Is he younger than me? I'm going to be acting.

12:36 Like the auntie at the thing. Yeah.

12:40 So that's 209.

12:41 You already know.

12:42 Yeah.

12:42 And you're looking around.

12:44 I'm like, am I going to show my lower back tattoo?

12:46 This is Modesto.

12:47 I was like, maybe not 37. I don't want him to call that cow town.

12:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

12:55 The region is called Cowtown, right?

12:57 It just depends who you talk to because some people are like, no, it's not. But it's like, yeah, dude.

13:00 I had homies from Modesto who are like, they're like, man, we're from Cowtown. Like, that's how they would describe it to people who weren't from California. And they're like, that's Cowtown.

13:09 We describe it as Meth-Desto.

13:11 Oh, okay.

13:11 Yeah, that's a little nickname we've concocted in the Central Valley.

13:15 Okay, I love that.

13:15 That's not nice. Turlock, I'm trying to figure out what fictional universe that sounds like a villain from. Is it the Transformer? Oh, that's funny. Like Turlock. Yeah. It's definitely a 70s. Yeah, Decepticon, Turlock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That sounds about right.

13:28 It sounds like something. What was that one with Sean Connery? Zardoz?

13:32 Oh, yeah.

13:33 Zardoz.

13:33 Yeah, Turlock would be a character in Zardoz.

13:35 For sure.

13:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:36 Such a specific fool.

13:37 And you know, George Lucas is from Modesto. Oh, yeah.

13:40 Oh, yeah.

13:40 A lot of sci-fi.

13:41 You had a big weekend.

13:42 Mentality, baby.

13:43 Big ass music.

13:44 I know.

13:44 I want to go. I was hoping I could go this week while I'm here. Look crazy.

13:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:47 It looks wild. The one thing I saw was people were posting how reasonable the food prices were at the cafeteria.

13:53 There was a great article in, I want to say, Vogue magazine with him and his wife. And his wife comes from the hood of Chicago. And she was like, the thing that I hated when we would go on school field trips was that shit wasn't affordable and you couldn't buy things. She made a point to make sure there was affordable food and affordable gifts in the gift shop.

14:11 She said that there's, I think, a pencil that's 25 cents. So that everyone can have something. I love it. It made me so happy.

14:20 It's just so funny that the secret to all of this is that somebody just has to have one foot in reality.

14:25 Right.

14:26 You know what I mean?

14:27 Because once you know this person who hasn't been a billionaire for the past 15 years and they told me that it's crazy.

14:33 They're like, because, yeah, like people will be like, yo, the peanut butter and jelly.

14:37 Is two dollars.

14:38 Yeah.

14:38 Yeah. And everyone's like, no, in an L.A. museum.

14:42 Yeah. Impossible. Because they care about the kids.

14:44 Yeah, they understand what it's about.

14:45 They understand what it feels like, or she does at least. They understand what it feels like to go on a field trip, and you're humiliated because you can't afford.

14:52 Right, because you can't buy shit yet.

14:53 You can't buy shit.

14:54 You should be able to take a $ 5 bill and eat on a field trip.

14:57 I remember there was this kid at my school who, when we did field trips, their parents... I'm assuming just gave them like $ 300 all the time. Right, right, right. Because they would clear out the gift store and shit. I'm like, at the LA Zoo?

15:07 Yeah.

15:08 Like, what the fuck is this? And it's humiliating.

15:10 Yeah.

15:10 And you're just a little kid.

15:11 You don't understand anything, but you understand how you feel. Yeah.

15:14 And then you go home and then you do the thing like, well, how come so-and-so got $ 300? You're like, because so-and-so's parents got $ 300. Right, right, right.

15:20 Right. Who's that mean?

15:23 Like, we're not giving you that because that's not what the money goes to.

15:26 Right.

15:26 You said it was George Lucas's wife who. Yes. That's interesting. He has a long history of marrying women and like actually listening to that. His wife helped him edit the first like three Star Wars. And like she like basically a lot of people are like she was actually what saved those.

15:43 And then they divorced in 83. And you see what the, you know, what the prequels look like. That's what you're talking about, Indiana Jones ideas and shit?

15:50 Yeah, yeah.

15:52 I mean, every smart man should listen to the women in his life.

15:55 Fuck yeah, bro.

15:56 I have everything I have because I got the fuck out of the way of her matter. I don't know shit, man.

16:01 Help me, please.

16:02 Shout out to the matriarchy, y'all.

16:03 Yeah.

16:04 Give it a shot.

16:05 Give it a shot.

16:06 Give it a shot.

16:06 Somebody needs to just take the prices of, like, the pencil and the PB & J sandwich and just, like, find the examples of other museums and just shame them. Absolutely. That's not, that's not like 50% off. That's like one eighth. Yeah. What like a pencil would cost. That's probably one fourth of what the PB and J costs at like the science center. Right. Oh yeah. You go to like the Huntington library. Are you kidding me? Yeah. It's like $ 12. Yeah.

16:34 PB and J $ 3. I was like, what the fuck? Then there was another, uh, a grilled cheese, two bucks.

16:42 Yeah, that's beautiful.

16:43 I mean, that's... It is cheap. And it should be. That's why I make them all the time at home.

16:46 Yeah, it should be that price.

16:48 They never acknowledge that. It's just so weird that everything is so fucking overpriced. Like, my eyes are watering up because I'm like, George Lucas decided to sell a good cheese for $ 2.

16:58 But fuck yeah, bro. What the fuck? You got money.

17:00 Don't... Yeah, and like, I'm so glad they're thinking of it as like, this is a public good somewhat of having this museum for people to look at. And while you're here, yeah, bro, like... We got $ 2 grilled cheese.

17:10 Yeah, it's beautiful.

17:11 I love it.

17:11 It's also like if somebody can afford the fancier meals at the museum, then charge them an extra dollar to make up for whatever you're losing on whatever the fuck.

17:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like have prices for like field trips.

17:21 Yeah, absolutely.

17:22 Plain hamburger, $ 8.

17:23 Yeah.

17:23 That's nice.

17:24 That's actually a little pricey.

17:26 I mean, sure.

17:27 It's probably a good burger, though. The meat's got to be good.

17:29 Yeah. And also the normal burger is probably $ 25. Normal burger, $ 13.

17:34 I mean, this place is 13 anyway. I'm doing a real dry promo for the Lucas Museum.

17:39 I've been wanting to go ever since I read that article. I've been wanting to go because I'm like, I want to support that.

17:43 Yeah, that part too, for sure.

17:45 It's worth supporting.

17:47 That was all off of your search history of Colin Kaepernick.

17:51 209, baby, 209, baby.

17:54 You could go to the museum and be like, 209. I will. And George Lucas is like, hey, bring her up here. Bring her forward.

17:59 Would you like to be in my next film?

18:02 I could be an alien easy.

18:04 No, I'm thinking something else.

18:05 That's a dream. That's a dream, though. I want to be an alien in a movie. I feel like I got the body type for it.

18:11 Yeah.

18:11 Yeah, but I feel like you could play like some lightsaber wielding.

18:14 Sure, but I would rather be an alien.

18:16 You just want to be like gang.

18:17 Yeah.

18:18 I want to fulfill my dreams.

18:20 Yeah, yeah. What's a few things underrated?

18:23 You know what I think is underrated? And I always, you guys know, I always do the same underrated, overrated one thing. I think, well, I think it's overrated that all comedians of every level are shooting comedy specials. And I think it's underrated to shoot, to record albums. Like, people are not recording albums, and they should.

18:44 Is that done?

18:44 People aren't doing that anymore?

18:45 People are, but not as often as they think they should be recording specials. And what's wild about specials is usually a special is a visual entertainment.

18:54 Right.

18:55 And a lot of comics, they're not worth watching. They are worth listening to.

18:59 Sure, sure.

19:00 But, like, if you don't have an act out or, like, there's no rush to record.

19:03 Are they going to see me humping the stools? Right, right, right.

19:06 They can imagine it.

19:07 Right.

19:08 You know, like, I always think about how, like, some of the best stand-ups that did record comedy specials that didn't do much on stage was someone like Stephen Wright. But he was so interesting to watch. And, like, every little thing he did was just an eyebrow move. It was like, that was worth watching.

19:23 That makes sense because his delivery is so monotone. Like, every little physicality.

19:27 It contributes. But a lot of comics, they don't do anything physical. And it's really frustrating because it's like, you guys don't have to record comedy specials.

19:35 Like, the art of.

19:37 recording an album and also if people love you know Richard Pryor George Carlin all those legends that they claim to love those guys recorded like 15 18 albums and I wish more people would record albums.

19:48 Why is the emphasis on the special over the, it's just marketing? It's like, well, everything's on social media. So you need, you want a visual version you can clip out?

19:55 I think that's been part of it. That's what's kind of ruining the vibe of what makes special specials. But I also just, I don't think comics understand that not everything needs to be in a special, but they think everything they do needs to be in a special. And I'm like, guys, you can record albums much faster, cheaper.

20:14 They last, in my opinion, they last longer because if you'd make a deal with someone and then those visuals get lost and you don't have the rights to them, it's fucked. And you can record an independent album so much cheaper.

20:28 I feel like so many people are just, they all come out, they're all self-producing these specials, right? I feel like so many people are like, I put so much time and effort and money. Like whenever you see someone like launching their special and I'm like, damn, bro, I thought that was something you got somebody else to pay for.

20:41 Exactly. And that's the other side of it is like, why would you waste so much money on something that no, there was no passion. No one is behind it except you.

20:48 Yeah.

20:49 That's an album, bro. Put out an album.

20:51 Right.

20:52 Right.

20:52 And they're not, and a lot of them aren't converting their specials into albums, which is another thing people used to do often was, you know, do the album. I mean, do their special and then, okay. And now we have the live version on vinyl or whatever. Right.

21:03 Right.

21:03 Right.

21:04 I've heard that, like, podcasts, which is a medium specifically for audio, even some of them are doing video versions. Yeah, yeah.

21:11 It's fucking the game up, man. It's fucking crazy.

21:13 I don't know why the fuck that's happening. Yeah, why would anybody do that?

21:18 Who would do that?

21:18 Social media isn't completely upended at fucking everything.

21:22 Yeah. Great point, Marcella. Yeah.

21:24 Like always, bitch.

21:27 Okay. That was Jack. The Boner Knocks Thrice. The Boner Knocks Thrice.

21:36 It's a gothic album about Marcella Cumming on this show.

21:39 Cumming. Dude, sick.

21:44 I love it.

21:45 She is good at comedy. She's fucking sick, dude. So fucking funny. So quick. She was so quick to get the coming on double entendre. Shit.

21:57 The worst part about growing up with brothers is like, I'm always like waiting to see how quick the men around me are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always that thing where I'm like, they're going to do it.

22:08 There it is.

22:09 There it is.

22:09 All right.

22:10 I guess let's go on this ride together.

22:14 Let's go on this ride together. It's Ride We Call Life. Let's take a quick break and then we'll go on a little Ride We Call Life with the Logan Brothers. We'll be right back. And we're back! We're back and we're back and we're back! And we're back and we're front! And we're front. And we're back and we're front. And we're front. We're back and we're frontin'. Such a good impression of me. Logan Brothers. Discuss. The deformed twins. They're so.

22:54 What's up with that one guy's hair?

22:57 So this is the one guy. The one guy. What's the one guy called? I've stopped trying to tell them apart. I have been corrected before. People are like, no, that's Jake. That's the boxer or vice versa. And I'm like, I don't... Yeah, yeah.

23:09 Jake is the one who looks like he has cocaine bloat. Constantly?

23:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

23:14 Yeah, they could model a G.I. Joe from the 80s after him.

23:17 Right. From the movies. Is he the one who just.

23:19 He's the one who got his shit cracked. Remember, he got his jaw broken in the boxing... He's the one that boxes. Okay, and Logan is the one who looks like.

23:24 And Logan is the one who just came out with, like, 80s WWE hair.

23:29 Yeah, he looks like if Gordon Lightfoot started, like, taking... Like, PEDs or some shit?

23:34 I don't know.

23:34 So, yeah, he just debuted a big 80s wrestler hair thing.

23:36 Edgar Winter, that's what I meant to say. Sorry.

23:38 Swish. I feel like his hair is something I should be finding out about in, like, a video where he pranks one of his friends by, like, putting a dead body in their trunk or something. Right, yeah, yeah. And instead it's, like, an official address of the fucking Pentagon. It.

23:52 It's... God, dude, everything's so fucking dumb.

23:55 Cool. Oh, yeah. Sorry.

23:57 This is the video that had come up about the very serious Paul brothers.

24:04 Look at the dude's hair.

24:06 What the fuck is going on? Okay, anyway, here it is.

24:09 They like moose.

24:09 It's a moose commercial.

24:10 We just got the pleasure and the privilege of getting a tour of the Pentagon. And what a cool experience. You see all the men and women here who are serving this great nation. I don't think there is any greater commitment to sacrifice than those who are willing to live die and fight for their countries.

24:27 This is a guy who's scamming like selling like pokemon cards and shit on youtube yeah okay sure go on.

24:34 So i think it's you guys who etch your names in history as you fight for and he.

24:41 Sounds like he's barely staying awake in.

24:43 This country to have that freedom where we can prosper and be happy.

24:49 Let his brother say something.

24:50 One of you matters. Take this moment and be proud of yourselves for what you do. Is this dude on Benzels? They all seem like they are.

24:59 What kind of question is that?

25:00 They seem like they are.

25:00 Yeah, that's definitely like, that sounded like me in 2005. You talking slow motion? I mean, that had to be stressful. Yeah, they had to be like, oh, man, this is like we got to put on suits, man.

25:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

25:16 We got to wear suits.

25:18 I've got to feather this shit harder.

25:20 Yeah, for sure. I just remember one of them used to live right by the Hollywood Improv back when I was doing like the open mics and shit and small shows when I first moved out to L.A., And they live like right on that street that's like when you turn into the Hollywood Improv. And they would always, their neighbors fucking hated them because this is when they were still making content and doing wild shit. So there was always like young teens outside of their house trying to like see them. Oh, right. They were, they've been a nightmare.

25:47 So it's just, I guess it's just wild to see what that has come.

25:52 Yeah. Those neighbors were annoying. I was just trying to see my boys. Catch the latest hairdo.

25:58 It's every day, bro. Oh, man. Sick ass music video. Do you remember Team 10?

26:03 Fuck artists. I like content creators. Oh, man.

26:07 Has the Pentagon said anything outside of like, these are great Americans that have joined? Yeah, I feel like that's. I mean, again, I think that shows where Pete Hegseth's mind is at. Because to him, he thinks the most popping dudes in the U.S.

26:21 Are the Paul brothers. He's like, this will help, bro. This is Pete Hegseth. Yeah, exactly.

26:26 I can't... The fucking Iran war is an absolute disaster getting worse every day. Who can help me?

26:33 We spent like 20 minutes yesterday talking about what the White House was putting out over the weekend just trying to distract from how bad the Iran war is going. Right, right.

26:42 Some person on Twitter put, the Iranians are terrified.

26:46 As a response to this video.

26:48 Like, yeah, sure. Probably that we've completely lost the fucking plot.

26:53 It's just sad that they probably handpicked all the people that were sitting in those seats.

26:58 Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

26:59 And it's just sad to be like, see so many minorities are like smiling at the Paul brothers. They're like, oh, this sucks, man. Like, the brainwashing is deep.

27:08 Oh, yeah. It's deep.

27:09 And also, like, from what we've heard with other events like that, like, they go around being like, hey, man, you down to be enthusiastic on camera, bro?

27:14 Yeah.

27:15 It might mean something for you, like maybe some PTO or I don't know, whatever.

27:18 Yeah, exactly. And it's like, no, you're going to die. That's what's going to happen.

27:21 Don't rah-rah this shit, man. No, not this.

27:25 There was a moment where he's, like, very solemnly, like, you know give it speaking while trying not to lose consciousness and it cuts away to the audience and it must have been like from a laugh line or something but it's just like whoever edited this like fucked it up.

27:41 So bad because it seems like they're just like oh man we'll never forget all the sacrifices that were made.

27:48 Right who do you think wrote what they said Chad GBT.

27:52 Oh, yeah. You know. That's right. I didn't have to think. Yeah, yeah.

27:57 But Pete typed it in. Hex had typed it in.

28:00 I don't know.

28:00 I feel like they would probably try and feel like they're writers by saying like, nah, dude, I prompted this shit myself, man.

28:05 Yeah, yeah.

28:05 Come up with like very smart sounding like serious words to tell soldier people.

28:10 Yeah.

28:11 At the Pentagon.

28:13 Enter.

28:14 Dude.

28:15 Done.

28:15 Pentagon. Yeah. You think you could ask them what shape of Pentagon is? They'd know how many sides. Probably not, right? They might.

28:23 If it has something to do with a Pokemon character, that's the only way.

28:26 I was going to say, a ring?

28:27 Hasn't there been a ring?

28:28 Yeah.

28:29 Yeah, an octagon. They do know the octagon. Oh, they must know the octagon.

28:32 Even funnier, they're like, why is it? What's that? I just thought it was like, what do you call it? I thought the pentagon was.

28:37 A fighting ring we were going to go into. I was going to name it after Doc Ock.

28:40 I thought it was from Pentagos, the Pokemon I like or whatever the fuck. But no.

28:45 Speaking of future presidents, because the Logan brothers are going to one of them is going to run and it's going to be a split ticket with Democrats. Tilly Norwood, the AI actress. Are you familiar?

28:58 I'm not super familiar, but I heard. I'm an actor, so yeah, I'm inspired by all actors.

29:03 Have you scoped to the competition?

29:05 You guys haven't been up for the same parts yet.

29:07 We have.

29:07 We've been up for the same parts.

29:08 You're always up for the same parts with her.

29:10 Yeah, because I look like an alien.

29:12 They sent her for every audition.

29:14 You did beat her up for the Abbott Elementary kid.

29:17 Yeah, it actually ended up being me, her... And Cher. Those are the last three.

29:27 But yeah, what's... So I think there's a movie coming out. So this is an AI actress, in quotes, who was introduced by somebody who was doing satire when they created the character, right? Oh my gosh. And then they started getting traction from Hollywood and they were like, oh shit, I mean, psych, I'm serious. And so... Tilly Norwood has signed with an agency. There's been all these stories. But we didn't know, right?

29:55 Remember, wasn't that the creator saying, he's like, oh, she signed with an agency.

29:59 And we're like, which one?

30:01 Yeah.

30:01 So unclear, but just a lot of hype. A lot of articles, a lot of think pieces. Like Tilly Norwood is the next big actor. We call it press. Yeah, sorry, press. And Hollywood's actors are scared. So finally a movie's coming out. And they had Tilly going on, like, a press tour and, like, doing talk shows, you know, getting softball questions. And then, like, some questions about, like, it seems like it could be bad for the future of the world.

30:29 You're talking to a fucking cell phone.

30:31 Yes.

30:32 And she went on Piers Morgan, and he had somebody else who I think is, like, sort of, you know, worried about the future of AI and was like, hey, so.

30:41 You mean a hideous man?

30:43 Yeah, a hideous man.

30:45 A beautiful young actor.

30:48 AI actress. A wholly computer-generated actress. And so he asks her a question about AI, and she goes on a long run. If you've ever seen an AI answer, you're very familiar with this because it's just like a word generator of like what It's like vaguely in the right direction.

31:08 Or as I call it, dating a man.

31:10 Yes, sure. Wait a second. Now you don't talk about men. I'm a man.

31:15 They didn't laugh at that one, people. Did you notice that?

31:17 Wow. Yeah.

31:19 No, we didn't. So this is Tilly Norwood and her fantastic interview on Pierce Morgan.

31:27 Yeah. Computer generated images.

31:30 It's an interesting point, Tom.

31:31 My film, Misaligned, is a hybrid production, meaning real directors, writers and editors are still very much involved.

31:37 It's not about replacing anyone, but about exploring new.

31:40 Ways to tell stories.

31:41 So this doesn't answer his question whatsoever. No, and also, Pierce Morgan is nodding along as if she's, like, spitting.

31:47 Bars right now.

31:48 No, he's nodding along like he's getting a nice paycheck for this one.

31:51 Right, right, right. Bars, Tilly. Yeah, gold bars. Yes, you didn't really understand the question.

31:57 Are the other actors on the screen with you real actors, or are they computer-generated images?

32:03 Do you know? Ah, right.

32:05 You're asking about the other actors in Misaligned.

32:08 They're all digital twins, just like me. It's a hybrid production, which means.

32:12 Uh-oh.

32:13 Somebody muted her. Because he said.

32:15 Oh! Okay, she's going off on a tangent. I didn't quite get that. I didn't quite get that, Tilly.

32:35 Can the AI creation of a white boy speak a little Chinese for a minute?

32:39 Did his little ah, ah. Because he said ah. Ah. And that set her off. That's all it takes.

32:44 She's acting organically. Am I going into Mandarin mode? Activate Mandarin mode.

32:48 Yeah.

32:48 It said ah. What the fuck? They're like, I don't know why you just like broke into, I believe it was Mandarin. She's like, Oh, right. I believe I've had a bit of a hiccup. But, like, it's just, yeah.

33:00 Oh, my God.

33:02 I know.

33:02 It was pretty impressive. She could speak different languages. You know, it's really impressive.

33:06 Yeah. I mean, it's crazy what a fucking cell phone can do.

33:10 Yeah.

33:11 Not an actress, but, wow, Pierce.

33:14 I think, yeah, I think we all expect them to be able to speak other languages, but, like... They should, God damn it, if you're a computer. Yeah, not when... They're just like in the middle of answering a question.

33:25 Defending themselves.

33:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should be able to.

33:28 Ask like when Mark McGuire broke the single season home run record, where it was and what day. Like those, that's what it.

33:34 It's Google.

33:35 Yeah, exactly.

33:36 Yeah.

33:36 Now say that shit in Korean. Now say that shit in Swahili.

33:40 How do you guys think Ask Jeeves feels about the complete erasure of his existence?

33:46 I'm so glad we're the same age because I think about that all the time. Because when I ask for the younger listeners out there who demographically are you guys are probably like 20 percent of the audience. There was a website search engine that was like, dude, you just ask it a question. Don't even figure out like search terms.

34:02 Just be like, what is why is avocado green on the inside? And it was terrible at it. But at least it enabled like stupid me at a young age to just be like, yeah, I'm just asking this motherfucker a question.

34:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What if Google had face though?

34:18 But that's the thing is that what I think now how AI is like, because I feel like people who like AI are three different types. It's like you're not creative, you're lonely, and you love slaves. And I think about Ask Jeeves because Jeeves was a butler.

34:33 Yeah, dressed up like the butler.

34:35 And we were like, answer my question, slave.

34:38 Not good enough.

34:39 So Jeeves was really like a foresight for what was coming.

34:42 That is true.

34:43 I didn't think about that.

34:44 Here we are thinking about it.

34:45 Yeah. I got to.

34:47 Go back to 96 to warn everybody.

34:49 Ask Jeeves.

34:51 It might be time for Jeeves to make a comeback because AI has ruined Google. Like Google doesn't work anymore because it's like giving you the one answer that's not correct.

34:59 It might be like the thing that people are like, actually, bro, I fuck with this Jeeves thing more than chat GPT.

35:05 You know what I mean?

35:05 It's like the way we went back to MapQuest for a few days.

35:09 For a few days.

35:10 For a few days.

35:10 I mean, MapQuest is now on my phone, and every time I am going somewhere, it's like, hey, do you want MapQuest? Hey, buddy, do you want MapQuest to tell you how to get there? I'm like, you've yet to work. Remember Lake America?

35:22 I didn't do it.

35:24 I know, man.

35:25 I didn't do it. I did other things, but I didn't do that.

35:28 Got a lot of other bugs to work out, man, before I started relying on getting to work with this thing.

35:32 Look, man, I got a lot of tables. Jesus Christ.

35:36 I'm humiliated excuse.

35:43 Me i.

35:45 Never did that before.

35:52 I'd be sick if she had a all burp mode mandarin burp mode.

35:55 Engaged um.

36:02 Should we talk about the guy who went viral over the weekend trying to pepper spray someone for being on their phone at a movie theater?

36:07 I want to talk about that.

36:08 Theater?

36:08 Yeah.

36:09 He's trying to watch the uprising over here.

36:11 What's the uprising?

36:12 I'm trying to watch the uprising.

36:13 That's the Robin Hood movie?

36:14 That's not the Robin Hood movie?

36:15 It's right. So it's a movie, Andrew Garfield. It's about a slave revolt type thing, like peasant revolt. I was going to say slave.

36:25 Hold on.

36:25 They don't look like slaves. We should call it peasant revolt. Serfs decided, fuck all this, and revolted against the king. I feel like cynically, whoever wrote and greenlit this was like, they seem really angry at our billionaires. What if we made a movie where they killed the only rich people around them?

36:47 They didn't get any notes for that ending?

36:50 Yeah, they might have. So as they were nearing it, they were like, okay, that's not a strong enough pitch. What if we said this was Robin Hood? And so they added that this is the story that inspired Robin Hood onto the material, even though people had seen it were like, this is not It had nothing to do with Robin.

37:06 Yeah, because they don't mention it.

37:07 And Andrew Garfield is on a press tour for that right now, right?

37:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

37:11 He's talking that shit.

37:12 I know.

37:12 That's what I've been seeing. I didn't realize it was that.

37:14 It makes sense, though, when I was like, because now that you're saying that, and I was like, recently, I was like, Andrew Garfield's out here just talking that shit.

37:21 Yeah.

37:21 In little interviews.

37:22 And I'm like, oh, right.

37:23 What shit is he talking?

37:24 Just very class-conscious kind of stuff.

37:27 He's like, we've got a group of friends.

37:29 Wealthy people dictating to everyone else what to do. And I'm like, how much did you make in this film? But that's okay, bro, because you don't own the studio.

37:36 You don't own the studio, bro.

37:38 I'm not trying to. We got to be in this together. But yeah, he was really, really just calling out the ills of society.

37:44 I was impressed by that. I was impressed by the concept. The trailer kind of looked like it was made in someone's backyard for some reason. Like, did you watch the trailer? Like, it just didn't look.

37:53 It reminded me of, what was that Will Smith movie where he's like apocalyptic vibes?

37:58 Oh, yeah, yeah. It seemed like they didn't have a full cast or something. Like every fight was like him.

38:03 Versus one person.

38:04 Yeah, yeah. There's just like a weird feel to it. I was like, was this shot during the pandemic?

38:09 I think that's where my disconnect was. What he was saying in interviews didn't really match the vibe of what I had seen.

38:16 Oh, right.

38:16 Is this the same movie?

38:17 Yeah, I really thought he was, you know, like Zendaya promoting multiple movies at once. I really thought that's what he was doing.

38:22 Right, right. Anyways, some people were captivated. including a guy in Burbank went into, he was trying to watch the uprising at the AMC Burbank 16. We all been there.

38:35 Yep.

38:36 And an entire row of moviegoers were on their phone. And he took out the pepper spray and just lit them up. As well as... And this is why this might not be a good idea. First of all, it might not be a good idea because you're going to get arrested and not get.

38:50 To see the rest of the movie. But also, it's like a very.

38:56 dark place where you're trying pepper spray, not the most precision. No.

39:01 Well, also pepper spray goes everywhere. For those who aren't familiar, it goes everywhere.

39:05 So he got two people who had to go to the hospital who were not on their phones.

39:09 Two respecters of cinema got strays.

39:12 His peers.

39:13 Yeah. This is what he thought the uprising was about. He was like, against these fuckers using their phones.

39:19 He looks kind of like David Koresh or something.

39:22 Yeah, he's got Koresh vibes.

39:23 He's got those mutton chops, right?

39:24 He's wearing a Terrifier t-shirt. Yeah. Yeah.

39:27 I mean, what do you think?

39:28 Is he an idiot?

39:30 Andrew Garfield fan or is he like really about the message? I wonder, what do you think was upsetting him or was he just kind of like didn't like that people were on the phone?

39:36 I think this is his first time out of the basement in a while. And he was really hoping to enjoy a movie.

39:41 Don't forget your pepper spray, honey. They're crazy out there. I got it, mom. Yeah, exactly.

39:46 That's his vibe. When you look at him, you're like, that is his vibe.

39:49 He doesn't get out of the house.

39:51 And he also hates being out because nobody has respect for cinema.

39:53 Yeah, yeah. I feel like he, I feel like the only time he leaves is to go to movies and then gets really mad at people chewing popcorn. I mean, yeah. But part of me like.

40:01 Open green and snacks, opening bags that don't exist in the snack bar.

40:05 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

40:06 He's one of those. He's like, let me eat my chicken wings, bro.

40:08 Yeah.

40:08 It's lunchtime. This.

40:10 I'm just looking at him. I'm trying to figure out what... Because, you know, when people are doing shit like that, your options are limited, right? It's either like, okay, I'm going to turn around and be like, hey, man, what the fuck?

40:22 You have that, right? We have the verbal... That usually works. Sometimes.

40:26 Sometimes.

40:27 Jack the white man always works for him.

40:29 That usually works.

40:30 I'm surprised he would have been like, and they never listen to me.

40:33 That's what I thought he was going to say.

40:35 That never works. They just go like this. And I'm like, oh, don't hit me, guy. Don't hit me, guy. I leave the movie. We're here for a good time.

40:40 We're here for a good time.

40:40 I recently shushed some teens at the Michael Jackson movie. They're teens, so I didn't give a flying fuck that they were talking a little bit throughout the movie. But then there was like the heartfelt parts that were happening. And I was like, ugh.

40:52 Shut up!

40:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

40:54 Joe Jackson is about to get schooled.

40:57 Shut up.

40:57 So I shushed them, but they were, like, tightened up. And they should. But I had let them... Honestly, I let them talk the other time.

41:03 Do you think.

41:04 Because from the account of what happened, he asked first and then sprayed after. He didn't just let that thing... he didn't just let that set that thing off without saying anything. But I wonder if he was just kind of like, stop it, please.

41:17 And they're like, turn it off. All right.

41:19 I just want to know, do we know when they were on their phones or what, like how aggressive they really, how aggressively they were?

41:24 I love that.

41:25 We're trying to really find the nuance in this to be like, Well, I want to make sure I know fully the situation.

41:30 It was during Mario Lopez's address.

41:34 Hey, check out Buffalo Wild Wings right across the way here in downtown Burbank.

41:38 What if it was Nicole Kidman?

41:40 Yeah, right.

41:41 You don't fuck with that. You don't fuck with that.

41:43 The cops wouldn't have come if they were like, well, hold on, was it during the Nicole Kidman part? Yeah, they fucked up.

41:47 But it was also like, were they on their phones or were they talking? What was it that set them really off?

41:53 A whole row is wild.

41:54 I just don't believe that.

41:56 A whole row.

41:57 I also just don't believe that a whole row would be on their phone during the movie.

42:00 Yeah.

42:00 That's why I'm like, did it happen during the movie?

42:03 I mean, I don't know.

42:03 I've seen people on their phones. Like, they're not in a movie, for sure. It didn't bug me or whatever. But, like, part of me was, like, thinking, I was like, why are you even here?

42:12 Right, right. You're on your phone.

42:13 People are so used to watching TV at home on their phones.

42:17 Yeah, yeah.

42:17 They don't know how to break it.

42:19 That's like.

42:19 Guys, the one thing I'm trying to make sure I don't raise a phone and TV watcher, because I can't do it. I know when I'm like, I don't even know what the fuck just happened because I bothered to look at my phone.

42:29 I don't have the.

42:31 Or the worst is when you rewind to watch it again and then you miss it again because you're on your phone again.

42:37 Fuck, I went too far back.

42:38 You know what's wild?

42:40 I did that recently.

42:41 I must have gone through the same fucking sentence seven times because I was eating.

42:46 I was like, hi.

42:46 I don't know what the fuck was going on.

42:47 Right.

42:48 And then only to realize the part that I thought I missed didn't do anything to change what I.

42:52 Thought I was listening to.

42:53 That's even more stupid.

42:54 You could have picked it up from context. Yeah.

42:56 It was just like him trailing off a sentence. And I was like, fuck.

42:59 Yeah.

43:00 I learned it as like ADD reading a book. And like, I, like go over the same chat like paragraph like three times because i kept not getting it and then like eventually people like you'll you'll figure it out like just right keep going yeah don't get hung up right there yeah yeah all right yeah because usually there's a reason that it didn't stick yeah yeah yeah for sure.

43:18 Yeah but i think because of how he looked i don't believe his side of.

43:21 The story the terrifier t-shirt is have you seen any of the terrifier movies no that shit is terrifying your face it looks terrifying you went it's just like the most gory violent like death.

43:35 Yeah and that's what he watches for fun and then he goes to the movie theaters and wants to he wants a reason to pepper he looks like he wanted a reason to pepper he had.

43:41 That and a serbian film hat on oh you know about that one no that's also that's like one of those things that people like you think terrifying is fucked up A Serbian film. It's called a Serbian film.

43:52 Got it. Yeah.

43:53 God knows his porn choices.

43:55 Who knows?

43:56 Who knows? They've got it if you watch the Terrifier movie, man. Two birds, man. Cut somebody from... Oh, really?

44:04 Yeah.

44:04 I want to know the ages and the race of the people that he pepper sprayed.

44:07 Yeah, I need to know everything.

44:08 I need to know everything.

44:10 Yeah, that's the thing. Some people instantly were just like, that's my Luigi Mangione.

44:14 And I'm like, well, hold on, bro.

44:14 Are you just trying to fucking spray people with pepper spray all the time?

44:19 People want a personality.

44:19 For me, I'm also, because I think it works on A, the thing that we all know, especially as like older people, we're like, people don't know how to fucking act anymore.

44:26 Right. Right.

44:27 You know, then because I'm talking.

44:28 About in both ways.

44:29 Yeah, exactly. Also, the people in the people either.

44:32 So I need more information.

44:35 But there's just no way that there's it's justifiable. they would have it's.

44:39 Only just about they like pulled a knife on you that's what I was gonna say if somebody got up and started talking shit then you spray them right right right you know but like there's no way there's just no I do not believe that guys that looks like that have this fucking self confidence to be like hey can you guys get off your phone please I'm trying to enjoy this movie or also move and sit somewhere.

44:56 Else sure sure Yeah.

44:58 Go tell the staff.

44:59 Yeah, like, yeah, snitch first.

45:02 Go get a refund, bro.

45:04 Yeah, yeah.

45:04 Go get some free snacks. There's so many ways you could have handled that.

45:07 See, this is probably his first time doing something like this, and now he knows, hopefully.

45:10 It's not his last time.

45:12 I heard he had anti-fascist things written on the can. So we all know what this is actually about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

45:21 Antifa rules.

45:25 Blacks rule.

45:26 Blacks rule. Antifa. Houston loot crew. Antifa number one. Houston loot crew. What a dork. Should we take a quick break?

45:37 Let's do it.

45:38 If you want to.

45:38 Okay. Yeah. Cool.

45:40 It's going to be a quick break. It's going to be a quick one, huh?

45:44 He looks like he's about to get up and go to the bathroom.

45:46 I know.

45:47 Are you taking a shit?

45:47 No.

45:48 He's taking a shit, you guys. He was not being honest.

45:53 He backed me into it. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Can we talk about the rogues? Rogan.

46:15 I have a loose theory. I just, because have you seen, do you know the elephant graveyard?

46:19 No, I don't know anything about this.

46:20 Okay.

46:20 So there's this, there's this, I think it's a person or collective of people. There's this channel called the elephant graveyard and they do really good YouTube essays, like on standup and the state of standup. And the last three big videos they did were like looking at Joe Rogan and what he's done to stand up comedy and, and how he's slowly just become a pawn of, like, tech oligarchs.

46:40 It is funny. It's not a good sign when somebody angles it as what he's done to stand-up comedy.

46:46 Yeah, exactly. Really good things. Really good things. It's so good now. And he does it in the most cutting way.

46:52 Like, he'll splice his specials with, like, shit that he said 15 years ago. It'd be like, this guy's got some real weird shit going on. And it's really like a cattle prod thing was so weird. Like the humping stuff. They're just like all stuff where you can kind of, this just does an amazing job of sort of like laying out sort of Joe Rogan and where he is psychologically, emotionally.

47:11 So the last one was just fully talking about like, you are now basically running cover for Peter Thiel, Mark Andreessen, everybody in that world, because you have them on your show all the time for whatever reason. It used to be a show where comedians came on and talked about like, going into K holes or whatever.

47:25 Yeah.

47:26 But now it's like, you've got these guys coming on and being like, well, you know, like just kind of doing their bit to sort of, you know, do the, propaganda for Silicon Valley and like the tech world at large. So anyway, the last one was really like cutting and you're like, damn, bro, like this guy really is like he is becoming a mouthpiece for tech oligarchy, essentially, whether he knows it or not.

47:46 This is the third, right? Yeah, the third one. I will say I have not watched the third one because it because I'm a huge Rogan fan and the second one was not convincing. The second one was so devastating. It was like Oh, but this guy, it's like a sequel where they're like, but you killed the main bad guy at the end of the last.

48:08 They demolished him so thoroughly. I was like, what is there left to do? It was like Mussolini when they were bringing him through the streets. And they were just like, bro, you're not just kicking a dead body like that. That shit is dead. They killed him in that last video. So anyway, in this one. Fantastic, even more. And being like, this guy is like everything that's bad with everything. It's changing comedy. It's making it monotone. It's making it like the people who who worship him and vis-a-vis him. Trump essentially are the ones that are getting elevated, etc. So anyway, now, like because a lot of this video went, it blew up last week.

48:46 Did they pull that clip of what he said about the 16 year old? Is that from that? Because I saw a clip running around that Rogan does when he was on the Man Show.

48:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, is that from that? The porn from the 80s?

48:58 Yeah, he's talking about Tracy Lourdes.

48:59 Yes, that's from that.

49:00 And a bunch of other stuff where other comedians say stuff that you're like, oh?

49:05 Yeah.

49:05 You're like, do we need to revisit some of the shit these people are saying? It's again, to use your words, devastating. So it got a lot of traction. Rogan always acts like he's never seen these things. I bet a lot of time he refuses to because it will probably fuck him up if he fully sees it. But clearly the people around him do because you have, you know, like Duncan Trussell and stuff who goes on Rogan all the time.

49:27 But he watches these videos and he comments on them.

49:30 So it's in... People know. You know what I mean? It's like Monday morning on the Rogan podcast. He's like, hey, man, another one dropped.

49:36 Yeah.

49:37 It's really funny. Bye, Seaman. Are we all right, bro?

49:41 The whole industry you've kind of created. So anyway, it's a great watch. People should watch it. But so that video maybe has nothing to do with something he said at the end of last week where he basically... started talking shit about Trump supporters and also claimed to be a leftist this whole time. So I just want to play this because this is like wild. This is wild, wild viewing and listening material. This is Joe Rogan.

50:04 Oh yeah, Ron White. Yeah, Ron White was on.

50:07 He has great tequila, by the way.

50:08 Ron White?

50:09 Yes, he does. It's really good.

50:11 He looks like a good guy.

50:12 He gave it to me. He was like, you want some tequila? Do you drink? And I was like, Ron White, I'll drink with you.

50:16 Yeah, yeah, right now.

50:17 He's really cool.

50:19 So here he is. This is him.

50:21 This is Rogan talking about how left-wing he is. And he starts off by being like, dude, everybody works at the mothership left-wing. And just because Tony Hinchcliffe is out here saying that he loves Trump.

50:30 Dude, the vibes at the mothership are off, man.

50:33 Not left-wing? Very left-wing, huh?

50:35 I made a joke. What did I say? I was like, where are the single ladies at? And it was only one girl. She's like, oh. And I was like, yeah, this isn't a safe space for single women.

50:45 Um, okay. So here's, here's like, yeah, we allow one single woman.

50:49 Exactly.

50:50 They're like the men in the audience. They wouldn't even look at me when I was on stage. That's how fucking anti-woman these men are. It was, the vibes are off.

50:58 Wow.

50:59 I'm really glad I went. I'm so nosy. I'm so glad I was.

51:01 Well, yeah, you got to know. So here, this is again, Rogan's defense of how everyone's totally left wing, despite everything you're seeing.

51:09 Crazy talk.

51:11 People just assume because they connect Tony. And people also connect me to that. Mostly I think that's because they don't know me. Because I look right-wing and because I did kind of help Trump.

51:23 Other than that? You think that might be what? I've been left-wing my whole life. Well, I know you have very left-wing views on a lot of fucking things. So, yeah.

51:36 He goes, I've been left-wing my whole life.

51:38 That's crazy.

51:39 And you're like, sir. Sir.

51:41 That sucks.

51:42 Joe Rogan, the guy who's, I know him to be so inclusive of trans people. Of course, yeah, the left-wing Joe Rogan or the guy who is not an anti-science freak who's constantly talking about vaccines.

51:54 And like, all your freedoms. Ivermectin, yeah.

51:57 He is, yes, he is very left-wing. He's so left-wing. I mean, I guess he's like, yeah, I got Bella Chao playing on loop in my fucking cryo tank. That's how fucking anti-fascist I am, bro. It's crazy. But yeah, just a very, he then goes on to try and distance himself from the very people he told to vote for fucking Donald Trump. I like he goes, because I kind of helped him.

52:18 You endorsed him.

52:18 Because I kind of helped Trump. You unequivocally endorsed him.

52:21 Yeah.

52:22 Everybody gets mad at me because I was storming the Capitol.

52:26 Because we all looped it together.

52:30 So here he is now talking just about this Trump. Just kind of like how problematic is that there's like all these people like trying to like find like their savior in like a single leader. That's interesting. But Trump supporters are fucking nuts, man.

52:45 They're rabid. He represents something other than just a person to them.

52:50 Oh, it's Christ. Yeah.

52:52 Well, he represents something, a leader that they wish they had, you know?

52:56 Yeah.

52:58 Which is a real problem in our society in general with leaders. We look to them as if they're something different. than every other person that's ever been a leader before. Like this is the one, this is the one that's going to save us.

53:09 Hmm.

53:11 So, An amazing display of self-awareness and courage from Joe Rogan.

53:16 Did he see props underrated about anarchy? Maybe. I don't know.

53:21 I don't know where he went.

53:22 Fucking leaders, man.

53:23 Also, like, suddenly, like, being left-wing is cool on the Joe Rogan podcast.

53:27 I mean, when Ron White is on, you're trying to impress him.

53:30 Probably.

53:31 Why does Ron White have, like, that power.

53:33 Over him, do you think?

53:34 Because he's an older, well-seasoned, great comedian. Like, he is one of the, like, especially in terms of white guys that say wild and powerful shit, Ron White has always been a great comedian.

53:47 Right, right, right.

53:47 So it doesn't surprise... Oh, that Rogan is trying.

53:50 Because he does morph.

53:52 Yeah, he molds whoever's in front of him. And Ron White is like... He is a proud Democrat, Ben, and he's super Texas. And also on this particular episode, he really goes in on why the leaders in Texas need to be replaced and they need change.

54:06 So I'm like.

54:09 I always, it's always fascinating that he molds to them. And it's also interesting because I, I watched this from the beginning. Like I was at the comedy store when like killed, killed Tony. I mean, Tony and I kind of started at the comedy store around the same time. I watched this from the beginning and, So it's so wild to watch it and just see that it's kind of imploding on itself. You know, even him kind of throwing Tony under the bus is really interesting because like, Oh, I bet he saw those Netflix numbers and he knows that Tony is like his drowning.

54:38 Yeah.

54:38 It's going to, it's turning right. Going left. And, uh, it, it's just been wild to watch him. I also remember him seeing me at the comedy store and he was like disgusted that I was such a tall woman. Like it's like, Joe Rogan's vibe is fucking off.

54:53 I don't get that from him, but I guess I'll trust you.

54:56 Yeah.

54:57 He seems cool. He seems like a nice guy. Did you see the left-wing shit he was just saying? I'm so left-wing, dude.

55:03 I play on the left wing also. Which is actually kind of crazy.

55:06 When I'm on stage, I stay on stage left.

55:09 That's how I'm so left-wing, man.

55:10 People don't know that. It's just like, man. It's interesting that maybe, like, is the new thing, the guys who did the right-wing grift are now going to try and do the left-wing grift?

55:19 Probably. But, like, you're not going to fool anybody at this point. I don't know who's going to do the... Who could?

55:26 But here's the thing, though. I think because some of the fans, some of Rogan's own fans are, like, they are giving up on the Republican Party. And Joe Rogan is also like, well, shit, now I have to go with these guys because this is where the money is going to be, right?

55:40 But then it's like, yeah, I guess... It'll be interesting... who can pick up on like how cynical that move is on his part. And others who are just like, just go with the flow of the content. We're like, yeah, I guess I'm, I've been left doing too.

55:53 Have you seen like Theo Vaughn? He's now, he's like, he's all talking about pro Palestine and talking about shit that I'm like, okay. I mean, you know, the other thing is I think a lot of these conservative comedians, they're realizing that the only pussy they get is conservative. And that's the worst pussy on the planet. They're like, this left-wing girl actually has great pussy. I'm just going to listen to some of her ideas.

56:17 I was shaking after. I didn't know what happened to me.

56:22 The matriarch is going to save us, y'all. Theo Pussy.

56:26 Yeah, wow.

56:26 That's all it took for Theo.

56:27 Theo Vaughn.

56:28 Yeah, Theo Vaughn. Because, I mean, I don't think he's hot or anything, but I know a lot of women that do. And it's like, that's what it takes. That's what it takes. I was thinking about that Dave Chappelle bit. Like if women were smart, they would, you know, get some shit done when they're sucking the politician's dick.

56:45 Oh, right. Well, what about.

56:49 Yeah.

56:50 Marcella, such a pleasure having you. It was okay.

56:52 It was okay being here.

56:53 Oh, come on.

56:54 It was okay.

56:55 Don't be lying.

56:56 Let me see those boners.

57:00 That's the whole staff.

57:02 Everybody comes in. I like that picture with that white girl with those boners. I don't know if you like that.

57:07 She's coming in for her 21-gun salute.

57:11 Where can people find you, follow you, see you, all that good stuff?

57:14 You guys, you know I'm on at Marcella Comedy all over socials. Something cool, I just recorded an album. Hey!

57:22 Hey, look at that.

57:23 And that'll be coming out soon, live from the 209, baby.

57:26 Oh, is that what it's called? Live from the 209?

57:27 Oh, no.

57:28 Yeah, it was recorded when I was doing the Deaf Public Comedy Club in Manteca, California.

57:33 Hell yeah.

57:33 It's coming out. Hopefully soon. I'm doing it independent, encouraging young comedians to do shit independent, support independent entertainment, y'all. Support live entertainment. Go see. I don't even want to promote myself. I want to promote. Guys, go see your local comedy club, comedy acts. Go enjoy life. Please, for the love of God. Every industry is dying. But if you got a little cash to spend, go get some joy at your local entertainment venues.

57:59 I can already see how Rogan and working with all these billionaire people, he's like, what if there's a comedy mothership in every city now that the independent comedy clubs are going? We can rebrand them all as motherships. Oh, my God. The fucking Borg.

58:13 Justin, cut that because we got to go out. I'm actually involved in.

58:16 A Ponzi scheme.

58:19 Private equity scheme. I got to call Mark Andreessen later.

58:25 Amazing. Is there a work of media you've been enjoying?

58:28 Everyone's jokes about Ed Sheeran.

58:32 Oh, sure.

58:33 There was a guy... Let me pull it up. But one of my favorite recent ones was Creamy Butters on Threads. He said, Ed really got up on stage and said, Free Ed?

58:44 What if that was what we all were worried about?

58:47 Every joke about Ed Sheeran I'm enjoying online right now.

58:50 What we are saying is give Ed a chance. He didn't mean it.

58:56 He didn't mean that shit. Both sides. Both sides. Guys, I'm... I'm not an activist artist, okay?

59:04 That's why I kicked off an activist artist off of my show.

59:07 Yeah, yeah, but like, yeah, you're right.

59:09 People are like sharing videos and stuff that I hadn't seen. Like, I don't watch that many Ed Sheeran music videos. And it's just like, God damn.

59:20 You see it now. It all makes sense when you go back and watch the footage.

59:24 What the fuck? Miles where can people find you Is there a work of media You've been enjoying Yeah find me everywhere At miles of gray Talking shit about 90 day fiance On 420 day fiance I'm talking about English football European football Champions league Premier league On ain't it footy With Jamel Johnson Chris Martin Check that out Shout out to everybody That's been subscribing Work.

59:43 Of media Like there's this Group of These Japanese kids Have like a little band I guess And.

59:51 They are playing Like When you say kids Like.

59:55 Middle like junior high maybe freshman year high school um they are playing like steely dan kind of shit which is so funny to just see and shout out to my one black indies kid i see you in the background playing saxophone i.

1:00:08 See you i see you i see you he's the soul brother.

1:00:11 And i felt bad my own my own internalized racism was like how can he not on bass but he was on saxophone and he was shredding.

1:00:17 Bases are weird Yeah, we are. Let him be on sax.

1:00:21 We are. But I just want to play this. It's from.

1:00:23 The user who uploaded it is Toranari underscore drummer. T-O-R-A-N-A-R-I underscore drummer. And I just want to play, like, a little bit of this because, like, they're... These kids are fucking playing.

1:00:39 This is, like, old... They're playing, like, you know, old man shit. Okay. Okay.

1:00:47 And they're playing in a very traditional Japanese home, but like they're all playing electronic drums and stuff to not make too much noise.

1:00:53 This is adorable.

1:00:58 I like it a little in here.

1:00:59 I just love seeing like, you know, everybody's doing shits. Everything's a synthesizer, electronic. I love electronic music, but I just love to see like the art form of learning an instrument, honing that craft is still there. So wherever it's happening, I love.

1:01:14 To see it.

1:01:15 So yeah.

1:01:16 Jack, where can people find you on socials?

1:01:17 Thank you so much for asking.

1:01:19 What piece of video are you liking right now?

1:01:21 First of all, thank you for having me.

1:01:23 You're so good out here.

1:01:24 Where can they find you, Jack? You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien Blue Sky. Jack will be the number one. Jack underscore O underscore O'Brien on the gram. Working media I've been enjoying. Oh, what's up? Somebody retweeted the Logan and Jake Paul video and said, Hawk Tua really fumbled the bag. She could be secretary of the interior by now. That was Jenny.

1:01:50 Hilarious.

1:01:51 Go away, heat. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to this episode wherever you're listening to it. And at the bottom of the episode description, you will find the footnotes.

1:02:05 Footnotes.

1:02:07 Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Sorry, delayed reaction. That one got me in the eye.

1:02:17 Okay.

1:02:19 Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy?

1:02:22 Yeah, it's interesting. TV on the radio is coming back around for younger people.

1:02:27 Okay.

1:02:28 Especially because Toonday also.

1:02:30 TV on the podcast.

1:02:31 There it is.

1:02:31 They're going to change it to TV on the video. TV on the streaming. Video on the podcast. TV on the streaming.

1:02:38 But I just want, like, for people who aren't big TV on the radio fans, I just want to shout out one of my favorites.

1:02:44 It's called DLZ.

1:02:45 So check this one out by TV on the radio. It's got a great, it's one of my favorite.

1:02:49 TV on the radio songs. DLZ. Yeah.

1:02:52 I don't know.

1:02:53 Tunde, come on the show.

1:02:54 Oprah and that D. Yeah. Oh.

1:02:57 Come back. That turtle D. I'm about to note that. Okay. Write that down for future use. Some ideas. I have a whole note. Things to send to Oprah. Potential tattoo ideas. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending. We'll talk to you all then.

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1:03:23 Goodbye.

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