Weekly Zeitgeist 449 (Best of 9/21/26-9/25/26)

0:00 Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. So without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest stand-up comics doing it. You know her from TV podcasts. Wonderful follow on Instagram. You can see her headlining at a theater near you. This weekend, she's going to be in Cincinnati at The Comet.

0:41 Cincinnati! Next weekend, a little place called Seattle. Seattle! At Laffs. Shout out to Laffs for locking down... Clever name.

0:49 They got it.

0:52 The most central... Name.

0:54 There are other laughs, but they have two F's.

0:58 Oh, L-A-F-F-S?

1:00 Yeah, but the Seattle one got the real word.

1:03 Oh, got the actual word. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:06 But there are other clubs called laughs with two F's.

1:09 L-A for fuck's sake.

1:09 Maybe a P-H somewhere.

1:11 I don't fucking know. That's so nice.

1:13 They're digging deep these days.

1:15 I know.

1:16 Like, it really feels like they're, you know, funny bone and then it's like helium. But some of them are wild. Some of them are out there. Anyways, you can find her dates at amymillercomedy.com. Please welcome one of your favorites, one of our favorites.

1:30 It's Amy Miller! Amy!

1:32 Yay, yay, yay, yay. Shout out to Cincinnati.

1:36 Cincinnati.

1:37 Ohio.

1:38 Are you going to get chili while you're there? Do you like, have you had Cincinnati?

1:42 Yeah, I pretty much always do. I think it's really good. I do a three-way.

1:46 Okay. Yeah.

1:48 And then I also.

1:49 What is a three-way? People yell at me. Spaghetti?

1:52 It's, yeah, it's spaghetti with the chili and cheese.

1:56 Mm-hmm.

1:56 And then I put the hot sauce on it. Cause the four way is like also with meat or no with onions.

2:03 I think there's some other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2:06 The beans are good.

2:08 Such a horny way to just be like, there are three ingredients in this.

2:13 You want a three-way? You want a bit of a gangbang in this hamburger?

2:18 You mean just lettuce and tomato? Yeah, that's what we call it. When you put lettuce and tomato on the hamburger, we call it a gangbang.

2:24 Give me the gangbang.

2:25 People get mad.

2:28 At me for this, but I love the Greek salad. At Skyline.

2:33 At Skyline, wow.

2:34 However, yeah, it's a good Greek salad.

2:36 They have really good dressing, but now we know that Skyline's bad.

2:41 And we're supposed to go to Gold Star because.

2:43 skyline was like the white chain that like stole from these like yemeni immigrants like the recipe and that's gold star and i know a lot of this because the gold star founder's daughter was on summer house for one season she was like i'm from a chili empire and everybody was like what and everyone in summer house was like on spaghetti and they were like oh and then she's like Yeah, well, white people stole the recipe and made more money from it.

3:11 So it's really good.

3:12 That's great. Because I remember every time there are guests from Cincinnati or the region and I talk about I like Gold Star over Skyline. They're like, are you a fucking idiot? And I'm like.

3:21 It's really... It is better.

3:24 But I mean, it's the Hydrox. It's like the cookie. Hydrox versus Oreos. Yeah. Hydrox versus Oreos. Why would you eat Hydrox? Because it's the original. Okay. Got ripped off.

3:35 Yeah.

3:36 It is. Respect to classics. Anyways. All right. Gold star. Shout out gold star. Go to Skyline, steal the Greek salad from there, and then eat the show. Start your own place.

3:47 It's not something I'll eat before a show.

3:50 Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah.

3:52 I don't fill up on chili spaghetti and then do two hours of comedy.

3:56 Right.

3:57 But, yeah, probably the next day.

3:58 Gotta fill up the tank. Sunday thing. Carbo load, yeah.

4:01 Well, oddly, too, it's, like, on fucking Sunday. Like, it's actually hard to get on Sunday. Like, they're all, like, closed. Like, for God or whatever.

4:09 Yeah.

4:10 Like you have to like go into Kentucky to find.

4:12 That's the wrong God for God or whatever. Wrong God, bro. No God. God wants me to have a five way on Sunday. Take that to mean what you need it to.

4:22 It's in the Bible.

4:24 Okay. Thou shalt have five ways on Sundays. People, you know, different meaning.

4:30 Five ways to Sunday.

4:34 What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Well, my last search history was, what are warts? Did you guys know what warts are?

4:45 No.

4:46 And now that you mention it, I should. Yeah.

4:48 I have a wart on my face. I think it's pregnancy related, but it's actually, you get a cut on your skin and then HPV enters.

4:57 What? Can you believe?

5:00 It can't be right. I don't trust Google now because you get those AI searches.

5:08 Well, that's why you don't look at that. You always have to turn that off because that's the dummy zone of the Internet. That will make you progressively stupider if you rely on whatever. Damn. Ignore the dummy zone of the Google search results.

5:21 And that's what I'm reading to you.

5:22 Yeah.

5:24 But there must be some truth. I don't know if it's what I have in my face. Look, you guys, do you see it?

5:29 Uh-huh. Oh, yeah, that's HPV.

5:31 That's HPV on my face.

5:33 No, wow. Most commonly, the human papillomavirus causing small, rough surfaces.

5:37 You get a cut, and then the papilloma enters. It's amazing the things you don't know about your body.

5:43 So what does that mean? There's this HPV ambient? Because they say if you get it on your foot, like a plantar wart. Yeah.

5:50 Right. But it comes from your hand, and you've been touching an HPV.

5:55 Wow. I've been touching an HPV. I have a feeling this is wildly scientific.

6:00 That's what I think too.

6:02 But it does say that that is, it's, this is from the St. Louis Children's Hospital. Why would they lie? Right. Horns are common, about 10%, again, of children and are caused by a virus, most commonly, human papillomavirus.

6:14 I think there's different kinds of human papilloma.

6:17 Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

6:19 I don't, I don't know, but it's crazy the things of our bodies that we don't know. It's like, where's my liver? Like the other day, I was like, what is a contraction? How does birth happen?

6:27 You know?

6:27 Right.

6:28 Yeah.

6:30 I can't quite explain it to you, but basically a contraction means you're not your pussy, but you're dilating. Your pussy's opening.

6:39 Oh, okay.

6:40 So it pulls up. It goes. And meanwhile, your hole is expanding back.

6:46 Yeah.

6:47 And then when the baby's going to come out, it does the opposite. It pushes.

6:50 It goes... Right, right. And then... again this is how your doctor explained it to you right this.

7:00 Is also me looking online googling how birth I just looked at the top of google that's what it said damn so words go away though right because I remember I had a word on my hand when I was a kid.

7:13 Lots of kids get words on their hands I don't have to tell you how I got it I guess anymore is that.

7:18 When you were working on a farm yeah yeah Yeah.

7:23 Yeah, man.

7:24 Were you touching the cow? You know what I'm saying?

7:27 Wow.

7:27 I'll get them all burned all because pregnancy can bring on skin tags and stuff.

7:32 Dude, sure. Pregnancy brings out all kinds of things. It's amazing.

7:35 I'm like a Christmas tree with ornaments hanging off of it.

7:38 Temporary. Are you having heartburn too?

7:40 Yes.

7:40 Okay. So that baby's going to have a thick head of hair. He does. That does feel like the thing that is consistent.

7:46 A doctor said that's not an old wife's tale.

7:48 That's science.

7:48 That's actually real.

7:49 Good, good, good.

7:50 She has hair.

7:51 That seems like the most made-up one, though. I heard that, too. That's going to be a lot of dickhead hair on that one. The growing of hair causes heartburn. Yeah. What? No. What the fuck are you talking about? Oh, are you a doctor? No, but I just don't like what you say. So, like, fuck that. Blake, what's something you think is underrated? Underrated aluminum trash cans?

8:15 Like, for outside, where we... Yeah, Oscar the Grouch's house. Oscar the Grouch, yeah, Grouch style. And they're very durable and rats can't get in them. And one thing, so we had issues with plastic trash cans where rats were chewing through them. And even better is at night when the sanitation people come to pick up the trash, they're so fucking loud. It's so funny. And they, cause they toss them in the air. So it's like, we know when they get to our house, cause you're like, don't, don't, don't.

8:49 It's so loud.

8:50 And it makes me laugh like every single time.

8:53 Yeah, it's all.

8:57 Yeah, they're so loud that it almost seems like no matter what, that person has to be doing that intentionally to try and wake everybody up.

9:05 Right.

9:05 There's no way even if they were being like, like gentle, like there's no not making a loud noise with those. So you're right.

9:12 And they're not being gentle with them also. So you're right. It does. Yeah, it is deafening. No trash person has ever been gentle with a trash can at all. No. Why should you? Because it's fun.

9:23 They treat trash cans the way rock stars treat hotel rooms, and I appreciate it.

9:28 They're just like, and fuck you. Once it's emptied, once they've done their job, they trash that shit. Not my problem. Style points, you know? I miss it. Good luck finding it. I miss a garbage man. Cause like in LA, we just got the fucking trucks. I'm not a garbage man. I'm a garbage man. Let me handle my garbage. Damn.

9:52 It is. Yeah.

9:53 I don't think there are that many places that still rock with aluminum trash cans.

9:58 That is impressive. It, New York, you know? Also, what are these fucking rats on? They're biting through the fucking lids like that? It's crazy. These rats.

10:09 I don't have, like, usually I would try to come up with something funny here. I don't, I know I don't have the words to describe how impressive these rats are.

10:16 You're terrified.

10:17 I'm worried they'll hear, they're gone for now. I don't want to, yeah, I don't want to instigate. I don't want to circle back. I don't want to go back into that hell.

10:25 I feel like you're being watched by rats just off camera right now. Is that what's happening? You're like, I'm actually not allowed to talk about them. You're not going to like what's on top of Blake's head then. Every TDZ episode has been Blake being ratatouille. Talk about your thighs. Yeah.

10:47 No, they will inherit the earth. When you read people describing... describing rat talk about your thighs.

10:56 Describing rats it's like oh they are so much more set for survival than we are like they're they're doing great they can chew through anything they can fit through a hole the size of a dime they're unbelievable yeah and they're and they're not all uptight about living and Holes filled with dirt and shit. They like it. What's the rat saying? Is Jack's positive words on them going to save you in the end or no? It's all done.

11:28 He's saying shut potatoes up. Shut them up. Shut them up. This isn't going to help you. This isn't going to help you. Let him talk. What's some few things underrated?

11:40 You know what I think is underrated? And I always, you guys know, I always do the same underrated, overrated one thing. I'm, I think, well, I think it's overrated that all comedians of every level are shooting comedy specials. And I think it's underrated to shoot, to record albums. People are not recording albums, and they should.

12:01 Is that done? People aren't doing that anymore? People are, but not.

12:03 As often as they think they should be recording specials. And what's wild about specials is usually a special is a visual entertainment. And a lot of comics, they're not worth watching. They are worth listening to. But if you don't have an act out, there's no rush to record.

12:20 Are they going to see me humping them? Right, right, right. They can imagine it.

12:25 You know, like, I always think about how, like, some of the best stand-ups that did record comedy specials that didn't do much on stage were someone like Stephen Wright. But he was so interesting to watch.

12:35 And, like, every little.

12:36 thing he did was just an eyebrow move it was like that was worth watching that.

12:40 Makes sense because his delivery is so monotone like right every little physicality it.

12:44 Contributes but a lot of comics they don't do anything physical and it's really frustrating because it's like you guys don't have to record comedy specials like yeah the art of recording an album and also if people love You know, Richard Pryor, George Carlin, all those legends that they claim to love. Those guys recorded like 15, 18 albums. And I wish more people would record albums.

13:05 Why is the emphasis on the special over the it's just marketing? It's like, well, everything's on social media. So you need you want a visual version. You can clip out or part of it.

13:13 That's what's kind of ruining the vibe of what makes special specials.

13:17 Right.

13:18 But I also just I don't think comics understand that not everything needs to be in a special, but they think everything they do needs to be in a special. And I'm like, guys, you can record albums much faster, cheaper.

13:31 They last.

13:32 In my opinion, they last longer because if you make a deal with someone and then those visuals get lost and you don't have the rights to them, it's fucked. And you can you can record an independent album. album so much cheaper and I.

13:45 Feel like so many people are just they all come out they're all self-producing these specials right I feel like so many people are like I put so much time and effort and money like whenever you see someone like launching their special and I'm like Damn, I thought that was something you got somebody else to pay for. Exactly.

13:58 And that's the other side of it is like, why would you waste so much money on something that no, but there was no passion. No one is behind it except you.

14:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's an album, bro.

14:07 Put out an album.

14:08 Right, right.

14:09 And a lot of them aren't converting their specials into albums, which is another thing people used to do often was, you know, do the album.

14:15 I mean, do their special.

14:16 And then, OK, and now we have the live version on vinyl or whatever.

14:19 Right, right, right.

14:20 I've heard that, like, podcasts, which is a medium specifically for audio, even some of them are doing video versions.

14:27 Yeah, yeah. Like, people are fucking crazy. I don't know why the fuck that's happening. Yeah, why would anybody do that? Who would do that? Social media isn't completely upended at fucking everything. Yeah. Great point, Marcella.

14:40 Yeah.

14:41 Like always, bitch. Okay. That was Jack. The Boner Knocks Thrice. The Boner Knocks Thrice. It's a gothic album about Marcella Cumming on this show, yeah. Cumming. Dude, sick.

15:01 I love it.

15:01 She is good at comedy. She's fucking sick, dude. So fucking funny. She was so quick. She was so quick to get the coming on double entendre. Shit.

15:14 The worst part about growing up with brothers is like, I'm always like waiting to see how quick the men around me are.

15:20 Yeah.

15:21 It's always that thing where I'm like, they can do it.

15:24 There it is.

15:26 There it is.

15:26 All right.

15:27 I guess let's go on this ride together.

15:31 Let's go on this ride together. It's Ride We Call Life. Let's take a quick break and then we'll go on a little Ride We Call Life with the Logan Brothers. We'll be right back. And we're back. We're back. And a new character just dropped. Yeah. Add it to the tournament of stories for the end of the year. I know.

16:00 This is a big one.

16:01 I feel like two new characters dropped that we're going to cover in this section of the show.

16:06 Sure, sure. Absolutely. Yeah.

16:08 Because also, I was not familiar with Elizabeth Holmes' husband's game until this.

16:13 None of us were.

16:14 Yeah.

16:14 None of us were. But this all-star is named Hannah Gann. And if you Googled her two weeks ago, You probably would have found write-ups and bios talking about how she's a veteran high school teacher working predominantly with Black youth in Philadelphia public schools. You would have read that she was organizing students to protest the genocide and also scholasticide, like the destruction of schools, as well as passionately defending colleagues that risked their careers to speak up. And you would have read that pro-Israeli groups parked a mobile billboard outside of the school she taught at that said, Philadelphia is leading anti-Semites. Okay. So you're like, oh, shit. Okay.

16:53 So she's about that. And you would have also read that she is Palestinian and black. Her grandfather was born in Palestine, but came to the United States. Well, it turns out that while her teaching accolades and activism were real, her identity was completely made up. Hannah Gann was not black, is not black. And she was not, is not Palestinian either.

17:18 That grandfather she was talking about was some guy who was born in Baltimore. What? Like... Okay. I see where she's coming from. Baltimore's pretty active, to be fair. You're like, what the fuck? No, Hannah Gann is white, Jewish, and actually comes from a wealthy family of Israeli settlers in the West Bank.

17:37 Wow.

17:37 Ah, the universe really gives.

17:39 Yes. Everyone collected was like, huh? This all came out after like groups that she had worked with had heard about this and like basically grilled her for like an hour asking about her background. And I'll just read like what the what the what happened during this like meeting. Well, members met with Hannah and questioned her about her background on Thursday. After an hour of discussion, Hannah finally admitted she lied. The Radical Justice Organizing Committee and Philly Educators for Palestine said in a statement that. Gann had been a visible member of both groups. Quote, we asked her to publicly acknowledge that she is a white woman of Jewish heritage and an Israeli settler family. And so she's

18:18 come out. She's made a statement in an Instagram post. She admitted the years-long fabrication that said she was a, quote, white woman of significant privilege and wealth. Quote, I hid the truth or outright lied about my background to everyone in my life. There's not a single person on this planet, no friend, no fellow organizer, no one in my family, no professional connection, no secret op or handler who knew what I was doing. I hid my family's background from everyone in Philly and also hid from the people in my own family what I was doing. She said she, quote, allowed half truths and obfuscations to grow into outright lies.

18:54 Like when people think I'm from Philadelphia, quote, genuinely wanted to commit to the work I was doing in spite of those lies.

19:01 Now, what does this woman look like?

19:03 She. OK, let me show you.

19:07 Like, I can't picture anything. I picture Rachel Dolezal.

19:11 Yeah, you're not that far off. OK, wait, hold on. And all the Philadelphia Inquirer just said, hey, well, let me just. Like, hey, you seem like you're really sick with this Philly shit, man. You want to subscribe?

19:26 Oh, wow.

19:27 Whoa. That's what she was. What? So they were saying that she was using like she was using makeup. Yeah, you can tell. Yeah, she's orange. She's orange. She's doing blackface. Yeah. If I was, I would have been like, oh, really? Where's your family from? That's interesting. Interesting shade of orange that you are. Yeah. So this is obviously like the betrayal has just shot. everybody that was working with her because they're like, I mean, she's so passionate about what she was doing. Right. And she was like, like, what is all this? You know, but again, I think we have this woman pretending to be black and Palestinian, creating like fake common ground over oppression with her students. Right.

20:07 Only to be unmasked as a LARPer is fucking diabolical. Yeah.

20:11 Wow.

20:12 I think, you know, even though she genuinely seems to have her heart in the right place, like white supremacy has completely altered how she looks at oppression, even like she felt that using these identities like interchangeably bolstered her case as an activist. Yeah. And she wanted to maintain. Also, she gets to maintain her whiteness by fighting white supremacy as a black Palestinian. She's not a white. She's not a white person fighting white supremacy. She's not a traitor.

20:37 to her class or race. Which could have been more helpful in many ways. Yeah, it would have been more poignant. Instead, she uses a very disposable identity because now she gets to go back to her privileged life.

20:48 Right.

20:48 You know what I mean? It's like, I mean, I don't know if her parents, like her parents are like, Hannah.

20:54 What do you do as a parent? I mean, the thing is, as a parent, like you've seen, sewn that seat. Like, there's no way the family's normal.

21:02 Oh, they're settlers. Right, right, right. Also, that's like narcissism.

21:06 It has to be about her.

21:08 That's like the kind of family where, you know, people in high-pressure families where they can't tell their parents anything because they're like, dude, I guess... I'd rather just say I'm black and Palestinian at this point than like even talk to my family. But yeah, I think it's just a very, again, looks at even to her, like being a black Palestinian is like a disposable identity. Even just to be like, oh, well, it's like a tool I can use for this very specific purpose. But even then it's so misguided because like to your point, You should be doing that as like an outspoken Israeli. Sure. Right. Yeah.

21:41 Being like, this is what my family is and I can tell that it's wrong.

21:45 Yeah.

21:45 And I don't. Yeah. Like you don't have to then start using shitty, you know, CVS Tanner and shit and makeup and trying to be like, anyway, girl, because they said. After she came back from teaching, she's doing like Peace Corps work, I think, in Rwanda. Like there was a like kind of a reset where people didn't know her. Yeah.

22:04 And then she kind of was like in these spaces kind of using AAVE a little bit more talking like, you know, black woman and then the Palestinian. And she just kind of like let that snowball into this thing now.

22:15 I had a fake accent for like six months.

22:18 Really?

22:18 Yeah.

22:19 Well, I'm just... Can we hear it? I'm only trying to tell you because... Because it's like people love to reimagine themselves.

22:28 Not fine.

22:29 But like. I'm not comparing my fake.

22:33 Hold on. Yeah, I know. We're not. Yours isn't. We're doing activism work.

22:39 I'm trying to relay of like, how does the like, how mentally ill are you? I would guess I was pretty mentally ill when I was faking this accent.

22:46 I think because it's probably harder. It's because it is harder to betray your people. in the face of an injustice, right? It's easier to be like, well, I'm black and Palestinian. Of course, this is some bullshit going on. Right. Fuck all this. And it gets to feel heroic in the moment. Yeah.

23:02 As opposed to like being, you know, uncomfortable and being like, this is who I am. This is who my family is.

23:08 She doesn't want to be a gentrifier going to her neighbor going, oh my God, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Get these motherfuckers out of here. Right. And it's like, well, Isn't that you?

23:18 So is Rachel Dolezal now like a more accepted, do you think, in society? Like, do you feel like people have come around to her now that she's like done OnlyFans? Yeah, I don't.

23:29 Know if the OnlyFans helped. I mean, it might be helping her financially, but I feel like she's, I mean, I just tried to Google what she was doing, but now everybody's calling this lady Rachel Dolezal.

23:41 So she just pops up.

23:43 I think a lot of time has passed. And this is more harmful because there's like... Rachel Dolezal somewhere just being like, oh, yeah.

23:50 Damn, got that bump, but it ain't me anymore. But also, damn, now I'm a word? Yeah, you are. I mean, yeah, you always were. Yeah, you are. Yeah. It's just a very, again, it's like, yeah. And it's just, I feel bad. These students, you know what I mean? Like, that's rough. I don't think people like, if you really think about what it takes for a student to open up to a teacher and be like, yeah, like I'm going to be receptive to what you're saying. I'll be vulnerable with you so we can create some kind of connection. To use race in such a diabolically cynical, two-faced way is so fucking terrible.

24:25 I really feel for these students because now you're like, who the fuck were you?

24:29 It's like a really fucked up version of that children's book Miss Nelson is Missing. Do you remember that one? It's like this blonde teacher has a bad class. And then she disappears. And like this, this like scary witch comes in is like the new substitute teacher, but it's actually the blonde lady in like basically witch face.

24:51 Oh shit. I didn't know that. Real mindful.

24:54 I know.

24:54 When I looked at the picture, I'm like, yes, I know this. I know this book very well. I know this book very well. She's just trying on a new little persona. She's trying something on and just LARPing in the face of like a very, very, as Ed Sheeran would call it, the most complex political issue on Earth.

25:10 Oh, my God.

25:11 But yeah, so it's... We'll see where she goes with this. Apparently, she's trying to just be like, oh, yeah, I fucked up. I fucked up. I fucked up bad. But I mean... that's that's that we'll see what happens we will see yeah we will see maybe she'll have a show on like fox or probably yeah who knows or even ms now you know yeah we believe in the ability to rehabilitate.

25:32 She'll star in the next daily wire movie as like one of the people for the yeah exactly to kill you never know all right we do we do have to talk about this nathan fielder elizabeth holmes documentary uh you can see everything uh just dropped a new trailer where we got to see more parts and got to see a little bit more of everything.

25:50 Yeah.

25:50 And it's it didn't make me feel less weird.

25:55 No, I'm unwell.

25:56 You know, the first one, like the first teaser we got was just a very tense interaction between the two. This time, like you're getting more. It's like a full trailer. So you're getting a real breath of what this project might look like. And I don't know if like Nathan Fielder's in trouble. If Elizabeth Holmes... I don't know what's going on, but every single thing they just sort of revealed was... Yeah. Shocking. It was giving me goosebumps.

26:22 The husband being a part... I didn't know anything, obviously. But I didn't even know anything about her husband.

26:29 Yeah.

26:29 But, like, now I'm dying to see it.

26:33 The husband thing is... So, Nathan Fielder's like.

26:36 So.

26:37 You fell in love with her. He's like, fell in love with her right away. He was like, was that before or after you knew?

26:42 Who she was. That was before. It was before. Which is like, how? Yeah.

26:48 Where were you during the, when she was like on the cover of every magazine for like being a scammer. But anyways, and then he's like, and you weren't, when you found out, you weren't worried that she was like coming after you for a reason. And he's like, what would she be using me for? And he's like, isn't your family rich? And he's like, and he goes, yeah, but like, there's like levels to it.

27:13 Like we're yeah we're rich we're not like oligarchs we're like petite petty oligarchs yeah great insight into like the mind of somebody with generational wealth yeah yeah who goes like yeah but we're not like the duponts it's like right well we have like hundreds of millions of dollars yeah like 900 million 50 950 million probably All told. Right. Oh, sorry, that's what, it's in my trust. In my trust, it's $ 950 million.

27:37 Yeah, yeah.

27:38 That's the most I have access to. We don't want that billionaire tax. But yeah, seeing that was just, to see like also that like, it's not just her lying to herself. There's this partner now who like, now you're fascinated by like, how much do you realize? And you can tell like, Nathan's trying to kind of be like, I don't think she's ever lied to you. Right. Like just kind of taking them aside. It's.

28:00 And like, I feel like she's also, even though he's probably the worst person, like she's conning him, but I also feel like she's conning Nathan.

28:08 Yeah.

28:09 Like there's no world where he's conned by her, but like it, but that's what it made me feel.

28:15 Right.

28:15 Like, I feel crazy.

28:17 All of the quotes that came up during the trailer also were bone chilling for me.

28:24 Bone chilling.

28:24 I've never seen quotes come up from critics on a trailer. Usually it's like five stars. This is a good movie.

28:33 But this one is always like, I'm having an existential crisis.

28:38 Roger Ebert, like no other film I've ever experienced before. Interesting. But they're all like, I kind of feel fucked up.

28:46 Yeah.

28:46 You know, like that's the vibe you get.

28:47 There was one that was like, I will be thinking about this movie for the rest of my life.

28:52 What was it? Variety. It said, this was the Variety quote, a weirder and weirder journey than anyone might expect. And like the one you were talking about. Wait, where is it? Someone, Outright Masterpiece. Oh, yeah. This was from Awards Radar. I may think about this movie for the rest of my life.

29:09 That's the best blurb you could ever get.

29:12 That really is. And, like, it's also not necessarily complimentary. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, not that it's bad for the film, but, like, just, like, the content was so jarring, probably. It feels like probably the way people reacted that first season of the rehearsal. Oh, my God. Where they're like, oh, Nathan's, like, some kind of genius here. And, like, I can't. Like a sicko, too. Yeah, just odd. But, like, the way he's arriving at these things is so odd and roundabout. But, like, I can only imagine with this and Lance Oppenheim, who's just a great director, too.

29:42 Yeah, I rode in an elevator with Nathan Fielder once and he was facing the back.

29:48 He's facing like the wall of people. Like he got in the elevator, the doors closed and he's like, he faced me. The door was like this. It closed.

29:55 Yeah. And he didn't look at the door.

29:58 Yeah.

29:59 He just faced the people that were away.

30:01 It was amazing. Were you at like an agency office?

30:03 It was like, yeah, it was like a showbiz.

30:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to say, like, I feel like that's the only place I've seen Nathan Fielder. Was he making eye contact with you?

30:14 I was too anxious to make eye contact back. But yeah, he was just kind of staring back at people.

30:18 That's interesting. Not a lot of people do that.

30:21 No.

30:22 No, nobody does that. I know it's fucking crazy. Nobody does that. You're right.

30:26 Guys, we should do it and see what happens.

30:29 I believe you get your ass kicked.

30:30 Yeah, I know.

30:32 I guess, what if you come in, is there a way you could walk in with your back to the door and kind of play it cool?

30:36 You gotta say something. You can't just do it and not say, you gotta be like, hey, what, you know? Or like, how's everybody doing?

30:43 Does the door close and like, you lean on it like James Dean style? Sure.

30:46 That's the scariest.

30:47 It's like, it's blocking your way. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, I didn't think about that.

30:52 No one's getting out.

30:53 Yeah. Hey lady, you think this is cool? I'm blocking the elevator doors to you and me. Yeah.

31:00 Yeah, I saw him live once and all he did was get up on stage, perform a Lana Del Rey song while making unblinking eye contact with the crowd and very slow, like the most uncomfortable five minutes.

31:13 Like acapella?

31:14 Yeah.

31:14 Well, the backing track, but just sitting there like dancing slowly, sang the Lana Del Rey song, like looking at everybody. And then spent the whole thing being, like, so I'm kind of good at, like, finding interesting people. And, like, just was, like, looking into the crowd, like, shielding his eyes from the light, looking into the crowd, and then just pulling people up. And, like, two out of the three were, like, probably the weirdest people in the crowd. And, like, he can just, like, find them and he, like, interviewed them.

31:41 And the third that wasn't the most interesting person, like, halfway through, like... you know five minutes into the conversation he was like oh you're drunk sorry sometimes it's I get confused I think they're interesting and they're actually drunk whoa he's like a psychic.

31:57 He's like he has this weird I think maybe that's what's so wild about this trailer is because like everyone's already in awe of Nathan Fielder in that way and everyone's in awe in another weird way of with Elizabeth Holmes and to see them interact where Nathan Fielder is somehow on the back foot yeah is like You're like, what? No, no.

32:17 Usually like you're dancing circles around weird people on camera. And you're in this one. You're genuinely like, fuck. I think I may have met my match. Yeah. Whoa. I have chills.

32:29 And she's in jail now. Yeah.

32:31 Yeah. So this was filmed right as she was about to go to jail. For three, over three years. Yeah. Or they've been working on the last three years.

32:37 But like has not leaked one, like.

32:41 No, not like in that sense. There was a time where people saw Nathan outside of the jail and people were like, why is Nathan Fielder outside the jail?

32:49 Holding a boombox that was playing in your eyes while it was raining.

32:53 I think he might be compromised. But yeah, like that was the closest, like that was the only thing I could connect where I was like, oh, that's right. He was at that jail. And then you're like, oh, this must have been for that.

33:04 There is for fans of longtime fans of his work. You get a little a little treat because it has him laying in bed with the couple, like doing the sort of side saddle thing, which he loves to sit.

33:17 Yeah.

33:18 He loves to do like a weird like laying in bed with people. It just looks so weird. And I can only imagine how again, I can't. I'm so curious to see because I feel like you're going to see moments where like he's probably suggesting a way to do an interview and there's like a pushback or whatever. Just seeing all these little micro interactions, I think is fascinating because I mean, we're all just looking at Elizabeth Holmes's face.

33:41 I feel we all had the same reaction for that last shot when she was like, oh my God, what did she say? I have trouble. I've never. It took me a really long time to be okay with letting someone see me cry. And then like wills the tears.

33:53 Like, yeah.

33:53 Since rising and then that one it was we were cheering in like a like a way we saw like a sharky to seal.

34:01 Yeah and the the you know audio the soundtrack when the tear comes is like the omen it's like that's the tear rolls on her face Like she modeled a lot of her shit off of Steve Jobs. And we did a Steve Jobs icon episode. And a thing that people who worked with him talked about was a thing called the reality distortion field where he you would like be in a room with him and you'd know he was lying to you. Like he'd be taking credit for an idea you pitched him yesterday. And he was like, that idea fucking sucks.

34:36 Get out of here.

34:37 You come in the next day and he's pitching an idea to you, the same idea to you and.

34:42 A room full of people. And people are like, but you like believe him.

34:47 Like he, he has this like weird form of sociopathy where like, like to the point that everybody who worked with him had a phrase for it called the reality distortion field where you just like, when you're around him you're like in this different thing and it takes you like a week of not being around him to be like wait that was fucking crazy yeah yeah yeah and so i feel like she is like that's kind of what i'm reminded.

35:11 Of she's not even like a wannabe of you know what i mean like she's doing that shit for real.

35:15 Well we felt that after watching a seven second trailer yeah right yeah It's insane. I think like, oh, no, I would never.

35:24 Yeah. Right. And you do.

35:25 Yeah.

35:25 Yeah. I mean, it's like, you know, like any kind of people like people like negotiating, like you call that framing and stuff like how like you're already sort of you're actually dictating what the parameters are of an interaction. Yeah. And she's just mastered that in a way where just just like when he's clear, like, are you lying to me?

35:43 And she's like, no. Why would I lie to you? I have nothing to lie to you about.

35:48 There's part of me that's a psychopath that wishes I could be like that. I never could.

35:54 Look, you look up to, I mean, let's think about the documentary.

36:00 Like I would never be like that. I'm like a kind person, but like, I'm like, I want to experience manipulation.

36:06 Yeah. On that, but on that scale, not on that scale. I wish too much. I mean, I wish I could do something like on that scale. It takes way too much energy.

36:14 I think like in relation to Wuornos, I do feel like were this a guy, she'd probably just be a billionaire right now. Who's like at the forefront of AI or some shit, you know, like I, I do think that, you know, the, The reason we're fascinated in that is because it is just like a superpower in America.

36:35 Yeah. Like having the ability to.

36:37 It is very American. You're right. Like.

36:39 Just be full of shit and collect money for that.

36:42 In a way that you can like convince everybody and yourself of whatever is beneficial for you to believe in this moment.

36:50 Well, I'm thinking now like Hitler.

36:51 Yeah.

36:54 I mean, like, it's not like quintessential American.

36:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

36:58 Sure. Amazing dictators.

37:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

37:01 Amazing dictators.

37:02 Amazing dictators.

37:02 Top five dictators, go.

37:04 Go.

37:04 All right. All fantasy, everything.

37:06 It's your favorite.

37:07 Yeah. I want to go up with Pol Pot first. Unexpected. I know, dude.

37:12 Wait, who is that? I don't know who that is.

37:14 I don't either. I got to go. I'm going to Google it and see. But yeah, I mean, I think it is like it is this thing that in America, we just love a fucking liar. You know what I mean? In this weird way. Like, think of like, you know, Catch Me If You Can.

37:27 Yeah.

37:27 The President. Everything.

37:29 Yeah.

37:29 Everything. Like all the characters Leonardo DiCaprio has played. Like when he played Jordan, What's His Face? Yeah. Wolf of Wall Street. We kind of were like.

37:36 The best.

37:37 Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah. Although with Theranos, it's more people are like, what the fuck? Because I think it was such a blatant, like, there's no fucking machine. There's no technology. Right. But in the same way, I mean, I don't know. We're all experiencing some level of that. It's like a magic trick. Yeah. Yeah, it is.

37:56 It's like they're magicians.

37:57 Yeah. Yeah.

37:59 Her voice is not as low as it used to be, though.

38:02 But it is... It's still low, but it's like... I find it fascinating. If it had been like... So, I would have been like... It's just trying to go lower. It's so weird.

38:10 Right, right, right.

38:11 It's like right at this level where I'm like, isn't that her voice?

38:14 Right, right. I feel like she's mastered it. Totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it almost feels like because of the sort of PR marketing version of the Theranos Elizabeth Holmes we've seen, it almost feels like, oh, are you being real now? Yeah. In a weird way. It's like you... She seems a little more soothing. Yes. But underneath it, it feels like you're still in a tank with a great white.

38:37 It's saying she's a mother.

38:38 Yeah.

38:39 That poor, poor baby.

38:40 Yeah. Well, I don't think the baby will be poor because the husband's right. Yeah. I wouldn't worry about that. We're going to be all right.

38:46 Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about more cinema. And we're back.

39:03 Oh, man. I just flew in from boob heaven. Yeah. Boy, are my legs tired for some reason. Boy, are my arms spiders. Who says that? Someone has that joke. Boy, are my arms spiders. Sorry. Yep. Jesus Christ. We're having fun, aren't we, folks? Oh, yeah. All right.

39:26 Let's talk about, we talked yesterday about how the polling is not looking great on for the Republicans in terms of the midterms.

39:34 Yeah. And but what the polls know. Yeah.

39:38 They're saying enthusiasm to vote for a Republican Party and, you know.

39:42 Trump nominees is down. But what do they know? You know. Mm hmm. Like you go out, you see these crowds that this guy is able to get. You see J.D. Vance up there killing with his fart left far left joke. Yep. God, that was good. That was so good. So fucking good.

40:01 Is that like one of those things where you're a stand up and you're just like, oh, on the one hand, you're happy for him. And like you're laughing so hard. On the other hand, you're sick with jealousy.

40:11 So when we were in the room writing that it was, I would say it was, it was a long day. We were probably in the 11th hour and, uh, Greg, Gutfeld had pitched something similar to that earlier in the day. And we had been workshopping and there were 50 of us in the room and we finally comedy assassins, 50 comedy, Joe Rogan's comedy assassins in there.

40:34 I love it.

40:35 I think a few, exactly. I think a few years from now, we'll appreciate it more once we have like some separation from it. Cause like right now you just think about the work obviously.

40:43 And right.

40:44 But yeah, rather than the fruits of your labor, but we're, I mean, obviously it was a great joke. It was a great joke. So this was my guess at how it came together.

40:52 Yeah, go ahead.

40:53 Right. So far left, far left is like the first idea.

40:56 Really funny. Everybody starts laughing. They're like, write that down. Pissing shit at themselves. Like, can't, you know, have to clean up. Forget about it. Like, why would we bring that up again? It's just going to make a mess. And then Gutfeld. And I heard Gutfeld's voice in this. So I'm glad you confirmed. What if after the laughter dies down or after just like a long pause for laughter that doesn't happen? What if he comes back and draws attention to it and says, I don't know if you heard that, but I said, you thought I said far left. And I don't know what I said is far left. And the media is going to say that I did that on purpose. And like, that's. That's what really packs the comedy in because those.

41:47 Are different words. And then like just over explain a little bit. Yeah, you are correct.

41:52 So that was that is so that was what most of the day was is discussing how we do that. And also was pitched where you do a similar thing of far left, more like far left. And then laughter, obviously, 10 minutes of laughter straight.

42:05 Laughter, laughter, laughter.

42:08 And then, like, that was something that JD wanted to do. And obviously, it's a collaborative process. But I think there was a time restriction on the speech is maybe what the issue was. So, you know, leave them wanting more, which I think is.

42:20 Leave them laughing. Could they even handle more? Yeah.

42:23 Right.

42:23 Would you actually kill people if he did that? Would people physically die? They would, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyways. So... Yes. Vote. People vote with their money, with their butts.

42:36 Right.

42:37 I made that sound like they're like, but you know what? Like people butts in seats, spending money on these tickets are just like going to see these people. So they had a great opportunity to prove that all this bad polling is bullshit.

42:52 Fake news, fake liberal, fake reality. Yeah. So, Freedom Fest, we've all got our calendars marked for September 26th, Saturday, September 26th, 2026. This Saturday. Kid Rock is the headliner.

43:10 Yeah.

43:10 Bang. His feature, like the openers are a bunch of politicians.

43:17 Yeah.

43:17 For some reason. And also Dog the Bounty Hunter. Yep. So can we talk about how that's formatted? Well, yeah, this is clearly an AI generated flyer for the fucking thing. So it makes no sense. So it'll be like, yeah, James Comer, lower third U.S. congressman. Then you get down to then there's also someone from Fox News, like just underneath.

43:43 You got a real easy Joe Concha, Fox News, Jackie Count, First Lady of Boxing, Dog Thee. Bounty Hunter. Right. His name is Dogtha. His name is Dogtha. His profession is Bounty Hunter. It's me, Dogtha. That is actually so funny. Dogtha.

44:02 I think the proper format would be Dog the Bounty Hunter, the Bounty Hunter.

44:07 Or Dog the Bounty Hunter celebrity, TV personality. You know what I mean? But whatever the AI got really fucked up there, they're like, fuck, man, it's right there. He's a Bounty Hunter and his name is Dogtha?

44:19 Yeah.

44:20 I'm actually stopping a logic loop over here. Like, I don't know what to do with that. Dog the Bounty Hunter, Bounty Hunter.

44:25 Fuck. I think that's it. Yeah. Dog the Bounty Hunter, Bounty Hunter. I think that's it. I just like that you can change it with anything like Dog the Racist or whatever. So I'm not mad at this naming convention. It's malleable. What if his first name is Dog the? It's Dwayne. That'd be funny, though. For those of us that watched the show when it came out. Anyways. Dwayne Chapman is his name.

44:53 I'm assuming our numbers are going to be down for this episode as our listeners are having to spend all day changing travel plans because it was just announced that this shit got canceled.

45:05 It's fucking terrible.

45:07 Host Republican gubernatorial candidate Eric Dieters canceled the event after only six $ 1, 000 VIP tickets were sold.

45:15 Six grand? I just want to read his statement. Dude, the whole thing is crazy.

45:24 Yeah.

45:25 I am never, ever, ever, ever, ever doing this event again. When I put together Patriot State Freedom Fest, I put it together with the game plan and the idea that I could pay for it with the VIP sales of $ 1, 000 from these hundred people that I interact with on a regular basis that have money. On a regular basis that have money. This is so funny. Dude, the whole thing goes, quote, it's Monday morning. I got my guy who's setting up the ticket sales. I said, how many have bought a ticket? And he said, you can't make this up. Are you ready for the drum roll? Only six people had bought a VIP ticket. Out of all these people that have money that I interact with, who I do favors for all day long. They asked me

46:20 for something. I never say no. I never said no to these people. None of these people will ever, ever, ever, ever get a favor from me again. Ever. Not only will they never get a favor from me again, they do not have a bulldog immunity. What? That last one caught me off guard.

46:41 Is he maybe the bulldog and they're not immune to him?

46:45 Maybe. Y'all fucked up. Yeah. I'll just play a random part of this Facebook statement he was making. The title of it was like, this may be my longest Facebook live ever, but he's just hooting and hollering about, I don't even know what. I'll just go to a random part, but he looks animated. Always support this event. Always turn out.

47:08 Folks, where is there an event that has five on the low side, 15,000 on the high side people.

47:14 It doesn't happen very often unless President Trump's there.

47:17 So he just keeps going on about, he's like, I've done stuff before on, because this was taking place at his farm. He's like, I've done stuff on my farm before and people come. But again, I think to your point, Jack, there's no enthusiasm. And also be all of these people don't realize no one has money to spend on your dumb fuck freedom festival. And even if they did their gas, like it's it. This is just I don't know who has the disposable income to do this, even even with the offering of free camping, like you said on the flyer.

47:47 Free camping. You guys can sleep outside on my farm. You guys got no excuse. I will let you sleep outside on my farm. Yeah. In September. Yeah. Full on driveway access. That's right. Free camping is a wild thing to claim as an amenity.

48:05 Yeah.

48:06 How many of the 100 people that... that I talk to interact with on a regular basis that have money are just like AI bots that are.

48:16 Trying to scam him. Like, I think we're learning 94 of them.

48:21 Yeah.

48:22 I think, yeah.

48:22 Cause I think he's also a victim of like the right wing media sphere that has people thinking like there's way, like there's way more people and enthusiasm than it actually, that there actually is. So he's out here being like, oh, man, like, yeah, this is going to be crazy because you're all hopped up on fucking Newsmax and shit. They're not realizing if you if you engage like with real people, even the ones that who like Donald Trump, they'd also be telling you about how they are really having trouble making ends meet.

48:51 But I just love like it's this is the same thing as that Charlie, Charlie Kirk statue all over again, where like that, you know, the art like some asshole just gets too big for their britches. And thought that because they know people with money, they will just piss it away on like a shitty statue or like a joke of a festival. But I guess that's also like their ethos is like, never own your own failures. Never own your failures. Always piss and moan about someone else.

49:18 It reminds me of like the... Tim Robinson sketch where John Early is like, I don't want to do it. I'm not going to do it. And then he's like, fuck, I should have lied.

49:30 He's just explaining like his skis. Like I was going to milk these people I know who have money for the whole thing. Just a hundred of them would have been a hundred grand right there. Right in my pocket. Sweet, sweet cash. I was doing this to make money off these rich people that I do favors for. Oh, fuck.

49:49 Am I not supposed to be saying this out loud? Weren't you a candidate for governor? Nah. Dash. I didn't promise nothing. Okay. Sure. Sure. OK, Eric.

50:01 Well, I mean, he's he's had luxury goods for people who are into mega is not is not the great. No, because there's not even not even a market that I think general luxury goods.

50:14 I mean, like so then you're going to shrink it down by even like a larger portion.

50:20 But even like the wealthy Trump supporters are disgusted by general like most Trump supporters. You know, they're not they're not here to be like, yeah, and then I'm going to go to the infield at the Kentucky Derby.

50:33 Right. Yeah. They're taking a helicopter. You got to think, Eric, think about ask yourself this question. Would Miriam Adelson show up to this? Right. Because if the answer is no, then you aren't. It ain't good. You you got you're going to have to bring the level up to Miriam Adelson. Or, you know, the people who run Uline, like all those shipping material companies, like those huge donors. If you can get them, that's the people you got to get activated, not your friends who told you, yeah, I'll give you a thousand bucks, Eric, sure. Damn, Kid Rock's going to be so disappointed, as is Dogva. Dogva.

51:09 It does suck to have a nickname that, like, can't be brought. Like, Kid Rock, you can be like, that's Kid, you know.

51:14 Well, Dogva. Dog. Yeah, I guess that's true. If they're going to do it, it should have just been dog underneath the bounty hunter. But again, this is AI. And so if you dog the lower third bounty hunter. Yeah, I don't know why I didn't think of that. Dog is probably. Dog the bounty? Well, there's the answer.

51:37 There it is.

51:37 There's the goddamn answer. All right. Let's talk Waymos real quick.

51:42 Yeah.

51:42 You got them in New York? You got them in New York? First of all, they up in New York, New Jersey area? Waymos? Probably not. Are they? I haven't seen any. No, we have those delivery bots. Yeah, yeah. You've never seen a ghost car driving around with them.

51:56 When you were out here, they probably had some Waymos, but since then, now, there's Waymo.

52:03 They're fucking everywhere. Oh, you fuck. That's right. And I actually just, we don't have a story. Let's go. We don't have a story. I just did the whole thing just to say that. Damn it again. You're a disgusting guy. You're a really bad guy. I hope you're fucking happy, man. You know, your kids are going to hear this one day, right?

52:25 I do worry about that all the time. They have been asking like, what is the Daily Zeitgeist? Can I hear it? And I'm like, no. No, you're going to see a side of your dad that will make you respect him less and yourselves. Yeah. Anyways, so they're all over the place. These Waymores? The Waymores.

52:45 Yeah.

52:45 The Waymores.

52:46 Yeah.

52:47 The argument for them is like they're not going to crash into people like they always make the right decision because they are a computer.

52:55 And we'll get to that.

52:56 One thing that I've been noticing, and Miles, I'm curious if you're seeing this, is that the way people interact with them because they know that like they get stuck sometimes or they like do they're very conservative about the way they drive. They create like chaotic driving around them. People are just like, well, this thing's fucking slow and an idiot. And it doesn't make a left on right on a yellow.

53:20 I saw a guy almost ready a piss bag to throw at a Waymo. Because it was doing this thing where it was trying to pick up someone on the corner and it threw the car off so bad. It didn't know how close to get to the corner while not being in traffic, to your point. And just caused a bottleneck where people were just like... driving around it and like the car was freaking out because it was just setting off way too many sensors but yeah yeah people are i'm not a fan and i'm also still none of my friends we keep asking each other like are you gonna take one of these and we're all just like fuck no dude i'd yeah i'd rather a drunk human than a computer I would not rather a drug human, but I would. Well, Jack, we all have

53:59 our own calculus, man. Yeah, Jack.

54:02 Hey, Jack, I think you seeded the high ground when you made that way more fucking joke a few minutes ago.

54:07 So why don't we move on? Yeah, why am I on trial for having drunk drivers take me around? There's way more where that came from. I'm not deciding with miles. They put me in a real fucking weird position. Hey, as long as you don't stink like it, then, hey, nobody's hurt. That's right.

54:24 As long as the old lady doesn't start complaining about how much you smell like whiskey. So in terms of how well they're doing as drivers, because that is the thing. It's like, well, one thing I can tell you for sure is you're going to get where you're going safely. is a recent report. They were just introduced in Denver, and a Waymo just drove through a farmer's market in Denver on Sunday. Like leisurely, not like a elderly, confused person.

54:52 At a leisurely pace, yeah. It was not like hitting the gas while trying to hit the brake. But it seems bad. Not a good precedent, I would say.

55:04 No.

55:05 Cars and farmers markets usually are terrifying headlines. Yeah, that's usually not worse. Yeah.

55:09 Yeah.

55:09 Yeah.

55:10 In response, the cops are doing absolutely nothing because under current Colorado law, there is no way for police to cite the vehicle for it.

55:21 Oh, hell yeah.

55:22 This is like a straight up. air bud situation yeah yeah yeah this is a pg movie listen to this this is this is no no rule says a dog can't play ball this is this is an actual quote from a police spokesperson said if there's no driver there currently isn't a mechanism within state law for issuing a citation hey so what am i gonna do give the car a ticket yeah Anyways, we'll be over here.

55:51 These don't have companies, right? This is just a isolated.

55:56 Car driving with no driver? Yeah, I don't understand how... I mean, it's the perfect crime. just with amazing oversight from the state.

56:06 Well, it is in the sense that the only people with rights in this country are corporations, which aren't actually people, but legally they are. This is not an oversight because nobody anticipated self-driving cars existing. People knew this was happening, and it can be traced back to the 2017 state law, which first allowed autonomous vehicles to operate in Colorado as long as they are capable of following state and federal traffic laws. But it did not, quote, establish a way to cite the vehicle or the company operating it when a violation occurs because corporations are more important than someone who might get bounced off the hood of a moving vehicle, for instance.

56:47 That's right. Well, good. I'm glad they made it real nice and easy to have an unaccountable autonomous vehicle on their road, by any means. Yeah, great. And they've just granted it the legal right to have the Super Mario Brothers star where it will be flashing and it can just go through anything and people will just be bouncing off of it. It just doesn't matter. Yeah, you don't want to get near that thing.

57:13 Waymo was literally doing the thing where they're like, it actually, we talked to the police and they said it doesn't matter.

57:24 Like the police like don't care about, they said these people who we almost hit aren't corporations. So like... They don't matter. They don't matter. We just, like, could keep going. Are they unhoused? Yeah, we actually don't need to fix that. No, not even like that. They're just, like, so low. Like, nobody cares about them, so it's fine. Okay, cool. Oh, my gosh. That's horrible. Yeah. So, like, again... This is a problem that Waymo will have to fix because it's a bad look, but not for any legal liability reasons.

57:58 They'll just have to be like, man, we kind of look stupid. We should probably make sure they don't drive through a farmer's market again.

58:05 Yeah.

58:05 We don't want to get made fun of. Yeah, exactly. By the other autonomous vehicles. Yeah. Teasing them.

58:13 Yeah.

58:14 All right, that's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday.

58:32 Bye.