The Wolf-Krugman Exchange: AI hype vs reality

In the fourth of this six-part series of The Economics Show, Martin Wolf, the FT’s chief economics commentator, and Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman ask if advances in artificial intelligence will reshape the working world as we know it. Or are we hearing an old familiar story that has been told many times before?

Paul Krugman’s Cultural Coda:
Loretta Lynn - "Coal Miner's Daughter": youtube.com/watch?v=f9eHp7JJgq8&list=RDf9e…

Martin Wolf’s Cultural Coda:
Thomas Mann's The Magic Mountain, published in 1924.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magic_Mountain

Read Martin Wolf's selection of the best economics summer reads for 2025 here (ft.com/content/534068d5-72e8-43c9-a1b1-9489bf5…)

Read Martin’s FT columnhere (ft.com/martin-wolf)

Subscribe to Paul’s substackhere (paulkrugman.substack.com)

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The Wolf-Krugman Exchange is produced by Sandra Kanthal and Mischa Frankl-Duval, and the broadcast engineer is Andrew Georgiades. The sound engineer is Jean-Marc Eck. Manuela Saragosa is the FT’s acting co-head of audio.

Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com (ft.com/content/a8875a4c-759d-4ac3-bdbb-c48c7f7…)
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