713: Is "Christian Nationalism" Overused? plus Amar Peterman

A recent article in The Atlantic argues that we should stop using the label "Christian nationalism" to criticize the religious right because both conservatives and progressives throughout American history have been motivated by Christian faith. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss what the article gets right and why we need to keep talking about the danger of Christian nationalism. Phil wonders why Catholic leaders are outspoken in their criticism of the Iran war, while fewer evangelical leaders are speaking up. Kaitlyn talks with Amar Peterman about his book, Becoming Neighbors: The Common Good Made Local. Also this week—the online heresy hunters are angry, and M.I.T. creates injectable satellite mini livers.

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0:00 - Show Starts

4:03 - Theme Song

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6:52 - Who's a Heretic?

12:04 - Injectable Livers from MIT!

17:45 - Christian Coverage of the Iran War

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33:07 - "Christian Nationalist" Term Unhelpful?

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51:15 - Interview

52:14 - Why Did Peterman Write "Becoming Neighbors?"

1:01:06 - The Struggles of Diverse Theologies

1:14:08 - Seeking Good Yet Disagreeing

1:26:02 - End Credits

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Cardinals on War in Iran:
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Atlantic article on Christian Nationalists:
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