S3 Ep 9 - Emma Kowal on 'Haunting Biology'

How are we to understand Indigenous biological difference in the twenty-first century?
Is it a racist ruse, a stubborn residue of racial pseudoscience?
Or is it a potentially empowering force that can be unlocked by newly accurate science?
Or by being under Indigenous control?
Today’s guest is Deakin Distinguished Professor Emma Kowal. Emma first trained as a doctor and public health researcher, before turning to cultural and medical anthropology. Now Emma also works across Science and Technology Studies and the History of Science and is the immediate past president of The International Society for Social Studies of Science (4S).
The episode focuses on Emma's recently published monograph Haunting Biology: Science & Indigeneity in Australia. In the book, Emma wrestles with the need to acknowledge the ghosts of science past at the same time as we forge new pathways in Indigenous genomics.

A transcript for the episode can be found here (hpsunimelb.org/post/s3-ep-9-emma-kowal-on-haun…): hpsunimelb.org/post/s3-ep-9-emma-kowal-on-haun…
Related links:
• The Book - Haunting Biology | Emma Kowal (dukeupress.edu/haunting-biology)
• The Centre - ANU National Centre for Indigenous Genomics (ncig.anu.edu.au)
• The Program - SING Australia | Summer Internship for Indigenous Peoples in Genomics (singaustralia.org)
• Profile - Emma Kowal Profile | Deakin University (experts.deakin.edu.au/24491-emma-kowal/about)
• Deakin SSN - Deakin Science and Society Network (scienceandsocietynetwork.deakin.edu.au)
• Earlier Book - Trapped in the Gap: Doing Good in Indigenous Australia | Emma Kowal (berghahnbooks.com/title/KowalTrapped)
• Interview - 'Why Did Scientists Collect the Blood of Indigenous Peoples?' | Time to Eat the Dogs (timetoeatthedogs.com/2020/06/08/why-did-scient…)
• Interview - 'Emma Kowal talks Indigenous health care, difference & genomics' | The Familiar Strange (thefamiliarstrange.com/2019/04/01/ep-34-knowle…)
You can also find further links to people and topics mentioned in the podcast via the transcript. (hpsunimelb.org/post/s3-ep-9-emma-kowal-on-haun…)
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