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What happens when technology collides with real life?

Hosted by BBC technology journalist Thomas Germain and social media expert Professor Jessica Maddox, The Interface dives into the stories, trends, apps, gadgets, algorithms and internet obsessions shaping how we live, work, think and connect.

From AI and influencers to memes, data leaks, cybersecurity and the weirdest corners of the web, The Interface explores what happens when technology collides with real life. Cutting through the hype, the hosts unpack the platforms, products and online phenomena that increasingly shape our choices, our culture and our sense of self - whether we like it or not!

Sharp, insightful and often very funny, The Interface examines our relationship with technology in all its messy, brilliant, absurd and world-changing glory. Along the way, it tackles one of the biggest questions of our age: what kind of future are the likes of Elon Musk, Chat GPT and all the other Silicon Valley giants building, and does anyone really want to live there?

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  1. The ghosts haunting AI storytelling

    This Halloween, Thomas Germain and Jessica Maddox go ghost hunting inside the AI tools and social media we use every day. Ask any AI assistant to tell you a story - there's a good chance it’ll be about a lighthouse keeper called Elias. Tom

  2. The battle to delete your embarrassing online history

    What if you could delete your most embarrassing photos from the internet, even the ones other people posted? A new California law addendum lets the children of family vloggers demand that content of them be taken down when they turn 18, and

  3. Can AI feel pain?

    Should you be nice to your chatbot? Anthropic says its Claude models will be able to end conversations if users are needlessly cruel. Thomas Germain and Jessica Maddox ask why AI companies are increasingly talking about AI welfare, and what

  4. Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen on the real Social Reckoning.

    Frances Haugen, the Facebook whistleblower, joins Jess Maddox and Thomas Germain on The Interface to talk about The Social Reckoning, the new film that follows her story and acts as a sequel to The Social Network. It stars Mikey Madison as

  5. Should we let AI read our break-up emails?

    The Interface returns for season two with a new co-host. BBC technology columnist Thomas Germain is joined by Jessica Maddox, a University of Georgia professor who studies memes and internet culture, to break down the tech stories that actu

  6. Is tech ruining the World Cup?

    This week on The Interface: is World Cup tech taking the human magic out of football? For our season finale before the summer break, Karen, Thomas and Nicky start with the World Cup - and ask what happens when football becomes a showcase fo

  7. Teens banned from social media - what next?

    This week on The Interface: the UK’s under-16s social media ban - is America next? The UK is preparing to go further than almost any other country on children and social media: under-16s will be blocked from platforms including TikTok, Inst

  8. Why is AI burying my CV?

    This week on The Interface: is AI quietly sending your CV to the graveyard? Karen starts with the growing role of AI in hiring and why it may be far more powerful, and more worrying, than most jobseekers realise. Automated hiring systems ar

  9. What goes on in TikTok's Farlands?

    This week on The Interface: the horrifying world of the TikTok Farlands. Tom and Nicky head deep into the TikTok Farlands - the semi‑mythical place you supposedly reach if you scroll too far, too late, until your feed stops looking normal a

  10. Can Pope Leo save us from AI?

    Google is changing up its search engine. At its recent developer conference, among a host of new AI tools, it announced the biggest changes to Google Search in its history. What will we see now? An intelligent search box. Longer text predic

  11. Are we entering a world without screens?

    Karen Hao’s away this week — but it’s a special episode: Thomas and Nicky welcome their first ever guest, senior reporter at MS NOW, Brandy Zadrozny, to decode the tech stories rewiring your week and your world. First: are we heading for a

  12. Is AI harvesting your knowledge on the cheap?

    AI is coming for your job — but not in the way you think. Karen says the real shock isn’t mass replacement (yet). It’s that AI is already reshaping work into something more precarious, more fragmented, and easier to squeeze. Data annotation

  13. Who is really paying the influencers?

    Who is paying for the influencer campaign making you fear Chinese AI? A new report alleges a coordinated influencer marketing campaign urging audiences to back “American AI” while quietly stoking fear about Chinese AI. Marketing agencies ar

  14. Why is everything a conspiracy?

    What's the playbook that gets real‑world breaking news moments to become instant conspiracy theories? After an attempted attack at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner, clips and early reports were quickly represented as “stag

  15. Is your iPhone about to change forever?

    Tim Cook resigns: what does a new Apple boss mean for your smartphone? Apple CEO Tim Cook is stepping down later this year, with John Ternus — a long‑time hardware leader — named as his successor. We look past the boardroom drama and asks w

  16. Is the new AI model really too dangerous to release?

    Claude Mythos: is this a real risk or the AI industry’s latest fear campaign? Anthropic’s unreleased model, Claude Mythos, is being talked about in the headlines as the next genuinely dangerous leap in AI - powerful enough, the company says

  17. Will algorithms increase your grocery bill?

    Walmart’s digital price tags. The retail giant is rolling out shelf labels that allow prices to be updated instantly across stores. This isn’t a new trend. Airlines and hotels constantly adjust pricing based on demand. But if grocery prices

  18. Why Can't People Stop Watching AI Fruit?

    Infidelity in the fruit bowl; why are so many people watching AI generated fruit fall in and out of love? In a week of contrasting fortunes — Fruit Love Island, the TikTok synthetic‑reality hit, goes viral while OpenAI’s text‑to‑video tool

  19. Can we prove we’re real online?

    "Am I really real?" Tom runs a simple test, involving his dear Aunt Eleanor, with far‑reaching consequences: can a real human prove they’re not a machine? The experiment was sparked by two viral moments; Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Net

  20. What Was Pokemon Go really up to?

    When we play a game or fill in a form, are we training robots without knowing it - and would we consent if asked? Remember Pokémon Go? The company behind it is repurposing the 30 billion images players captured to help robots navigate the r

  21. Will a new law change the internet forever?

    What happens when the tools built to protect children risk exposing everyone else, and who should decide which parts of the internet are “safe” enough to access without showing ID? As lawmakers in the US push forward with the Kids Online Sa

  22. Is AI running modern warfare?

    As Washington moved toward a joint US and Israeli response to Iran, a parallel fight over military access to frontier AI broke into the open. Anthropic, maker of Claude, refused a Pentagon demand for “unrestricted” use of its models, citing

  23. Is Havana Syndrome really real?

    In 2016, diplomats reported a strange burst of sound — followed by months of debilitating symptoms. “Havana Syndrome” sparked questions and conspiracy theories across the web about a possible unseen weapon. Now, new reports from Norway desc

  24. Can you hack ChatGPT?

    Do you trust the answers that AI chat bots like Chat GPT, Claude and Grok tell you? This week, The Interface put entirely fictitious information on the internet, to see if the AI chat bots would show any kind of caution in reporting it as t

  25. Is your doorbell using AI to spy on you?

    Ring’s new AI “lost dog” feature promises to reunite missing pets with their owners using doorbell camera footage. But could this same technology be used to build a far more sinister surveillance network? Our hosts take a closer look at Sea

  26. Trailer

    Want to know how your world is changing, and what it will be like to live in a future being built for you right now? Don’t be distracted by politics - it’s tech driving that change. Karen Hao, Nicky Woolf and Tom Germain - three of the shar

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