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What happened to Rebekah? (Part 2 of 2)

Donnerstag, 1. Oktober 2026 · 42 min

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Within days of learning her daughter, Rebekah Barsotti, was missing, Angela flew to Montana, desperate to find her daughter. When the search for Rebekah stopped, her estranged ex-husband's behavior became impossible for Angela to ignore. Eventually, remains were found and now, Angela is on a mission to share Rebekah's Legacy.
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Regardless of whether alive or dead, injured or not injured, the abused should never be returned to their abuser.

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Welcome to The Knife. I'm Pasha Eaton. Today we have part two of a two-part series about the disappearance of Rebecca Barsotti. So if you haven't listened to part one, start there. It came out last week. We're speaking with Angela Mastrovito, Rebecca Barsotti's mother. When belongings of Rebecca's were found along the Clark Fork River, a surge kicked off that brought troubling questions about the investigation that only continued with the discovery of Rebecca's remains. Let's get into the interview.

On July 20th, 2021, a family walking along a Clark Fork River trail came across several scattered belongings. Car keys, a phone, a dog leash, and a photo ID belonging to Rebecca Barsotti. The Clark Fork River is 310 miles long, stretching from southwestern Montana to northern Idaho. But the stretch of riverbank where Rebecca's belongings were found was just west of Alberton in Mineral County. Rebecca had been in the area earlier that day, collecting her belongings from the marital home she'd shared with her estranged husband, David Barsotti. But the meeting took place at the town pump in Superior, Montana, so likely Rebecca had made a stop on her way home, taking Cerberus to the river. But now, Rebecca was a

missing person, and her mother, Angela, would soon be on a flight to Montana to join the search. But within days of her arrival in Missoula, more and more questions about David Barsotti's strange behavior began to arise. Rebecca had left her abusive relationship. She had a new rental home that she was excited about. She had a job that she loved. But David Barsotti's behavior seemed to Angela like maybe he knew Rebecca wasn't coming back.

So he had already contacted Plum Realty, which was the realty company that Rebecca was renting from.

The same day that Rebecca disappeared, July 20th, 2021, her car was found. It sat parked at mile marker 71 off I-90 by the Clark Fork River. According to Angela, Rebecca's mother, two of Rebecca's belongings were in her car, but those were never forensically examined and the spot where her car was found was never secured. This was frustrating.

Rebecca was a victim, and she had documented her allegations of domestic violence only months before leaving her estranged husband, David Barsotti. And she was only in the area that day because David and his caretaker had insisted she collect her belongings, things that she'd said she didn't even want, that were not important to her. But it seemed to be important to David that she pick them up. And by July 23rd, 2021, just three days after Angela was told Rebecca was missing, David Barsotti was in touch with the rental company managing her new home, attempting to end her lease. And David's new caretaker, Bevan Cook, was posting on social media that Cerberus, Rebecca's dog, was missing, along with his, quote, handler. His handler was, of course, Rebecca,

but Bevan never referred to her by name. It was strange, and it was unsettling.

The handler and serves are missing. Servers went into the river. The handler is missing. Everything was third party and detached. And then hours later, Bevan is posting that the dog's been spotted in Plains. Plains is over 50 miles away, you.

Know, and I was told that he died of drowning.

But Rebecca's dog Cerberus wasn't spotted in Plains. And how would Bevan know if he was? It seemed like a strange claim to be making, especially given that Bevan and Rebecca had virtually no relationship. Cerberus's body was found on July 26, 2021, just six days after Angela had learned that her daughter was missing. Knowing what Cerberus meant to Rebecca and that she would never have left him, the discovery was heartbreaking and deepened an already overwhelming concern for Rebecca's safety. Cerberus's remains were discovered 10 river miles from where law enforcement suspected Rebecca had last been with Cerberus at the river.

The dog was taken to the SPCA out there in Missoula.

They did x-rays, but they did not do a necropsy.

Sheriff Taugh, Mike Taugh, had said that a necropsy was done, but a necropsy was not done. And I did not give permission for a necropsy.

And a necropsy, for anyone who doesn't know, is essentially an autopsy, but for a non-human animal.

I was told the dog was too deteriorated for a necropsy.

So the sheriff's office is making some assumption or speculating that Rebecca and the dog fell into the river and they've drowned. violence issues?

Oh, yeah.

In fact, we were in the very same county that the PFMA, the personal family member assault charge, had been charged in. So they were very aware that there were domestic violence issues. But when we asked about that and brought that to Sheriff Toss' attention, he said we could say it a million times and it would never make a difference, that David was not a person of interest and never would be.

A woman goes missing just months after she makes a 911 call telling authorities that her husband, David Barsotti, was threatening her. This is not just something Angela told me in our interview. It was later brought up in court. Here's a moment from the opening of the trial that happened in March of 2022, after Rebecca had gone missing.

This trial was regarding David's domestic violence charges back in March of 2021.

On March 9th.

2021, a dispatcher, Anna Mae, with the Monroe County Sheriff's Office, received a 911.

Call at about 1230 a.m.

The usual question, 911, what is your emergency? On this early morning, the caller states, hi, my husband is threatening my well-being if I do not leave the house that I own. The dispatcher asks if this is a verbal threat. The caller states, um, He has clenched my hand so I can't call you the next time when he threatens me.

The dispatcher, you will hear, learns there are weapons in the house.

The husband has been drinking.

He is taking prescription medications. The caller identifies herself as Rebecca Barsotti, living at 63 Buckle Lane.

In Superior Road.

Rebecca goes on to tell the dispatcher that David won't leave her alone. He's following her from room to room. For Angela, and maybe for most of us listening, this incident alone might feel like reason enough to investigate David. Their relationship was contentious, and at the very end of it, they were still in a major disagreement about how to financially separate, given that they'd purchased a home together. David wanted Rebecca to walk away from that, and Rebecca, she didn't agree. But according to Angela, local law enforcement, they didn't see it that way. They felt their search for Rebecca was more than sufficient, that an investigation into her death, having been a possible murder, wasn't going to happen. It's

hard to understand. I've always heard that the risk of harm to a victim of domestic abuse goes up substantially when they leave the relationship. And Battered Women Support Services says that risk is actually over 75%. On their website, they say the reality is that the most dangerous time for a survivor or victim is when she leaves the abusive partner. 77% of domestic violence-related homicides occur upon separation, and there is a 75% increase of violence upon separation for at least two years. Rebecca Barsotti was only a few months into her new life away from David when she disappeared by the river.

And he's told us, he said, I wasn't even going to look for your daughter. And I don't know if anybody can like fully understand those words when they hit you, when somebody's telling you that. And I was like in such total shock and he's going on. I mean, he just doesn't stop there. He goes, who do you think she is? The president of the United States. And I'm like, God, can you be any more of a monster? You know, I mean, I told him, I said, Rebecca was a victim of domestic violence, a registered victim of domestic violence.

And by that time, I knew enough that Montana Code required that you look for a missing person if they are a victim of domestic violence. But Sheriff Toth and Jerry asked, he goes, where are your SOPs on missing persons? And he goes, we don't need those. He said, I don't have to do anything I don't want to do.

And that is exactly the structure of the position of the role of sheriff in the state of Montana. If you have a good sheriff, you're golden. But if you have a prideful sheriff, it's not going to happen.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm a parent, but I don't think you have to be a parent to understand how just Utterly heartbreaking and shocking it would be to hear that if your own child was missing. Because it doesn't matter if they're 33 or 53 or 63, like, that's your child.

Exactly.

For Angela, feeling like she no longer had the support of local law enforcement, it was devastating. And to see that David had also not been investigated was impossible to understand. Angela and her husband Jerry had been living at a temporary residence in Montana, putting everything they had into finding Rebecca.

But they were far from home, and they were outsiders in a small town. On August 23, 2021, so a little over a month since Rebecca's disappearance, all river search efforts came to a stop, and no land searches were performed outside of where boats were launched in to search the river. It was an excruciating feeling for Angela and the rest of Rebecca's family. It still is. Despite it all, Angela stayed in Montana, searching for her daughter and pleading with local authorities to do the same. Meanwhile, David Barsotti seemed least concerned of all with finding Rebecca. Angela had continued paying Rebecca's renter's insurance policy through USAA, but in September of 2021, she received notice that the insurance had

lapsed because Rebecca had been reported deceased. To Angela's knowledge, the only person who could have done that was David.

So we didn't return to Virginia until August of 2022. We got out there in August of 2021. The grandkids were missing us terribly because they were used to us coming up every six to eight weeks to visit. So I did go back in December for a week to stay with Tony and the grandkids. And then flew back to Montana. And then in May, we tried to take a respite and went to visit family in Arizona. But we got the phone call that a body had been found while we were there. And so we had to return back to Montana.

What were you told and how certain were they that it was Rebecca's?

So Deputy Ryan Funk, and he was deputy still at the time, he called.

Because now we're into May 2022.

Yeah, we're into May 2022.

Almost a year later. Yep. On May 17th, 2022, two fishermen discovered a body laying on a riverbank under the I-90 bridge next to mile marker 53. It's a terrible thing to have to think about. After how long Rebecca was missing, how long her body laid in the river or next to it before being found, and still, nothing about her disappearance really made any sense. Local law enforcement initially said the investigation into her death was ongoing, but soon, it seemed like they were satisfied with the idea that Rebecca had drowned.

He called and said that a body had been found. He couldn't identify it as Rebecca and that the body would be sent to the state crime lab. And there was a conversation because I asked, you know, do you know for certain it's Rebecca? Well, I can't be positive about that. It's going to the state crime lab.

It is a female. And then I asked, well, what happens now?

Before we get into how everything unfolds from the point that her body is found, I have some questions. And you can also just say if you don't want to talk about it, because I know that this is really hard. But in the PDF you put together, there's some details about the remains that I was just sort of not understanding.

And I didn't know if you... had insight but we're talking about may of 2022 when rebecca went missing in july of 2021 right and this note says that the skin is fully intact in a large portion of the body with only the tips of the fingers on the right hand skeletonized right how is that possible So.

Deputy Ryan Funk did tell me, you know, in the phone call that the right hand had been skeletonized. And I asked if it was the whole right hand. And he said the digits, like to the knuckle area.

Okay.

Not the knuckle on the hand, but the middle knuckle and the finger. And I wondered how that happened too. And nobody could answer that. Now, I can tell you where my mind goes because you've got four extremities with fingers on two hands and toes on two feet, and you've got ears that stick out. And those areas were not compromised, just the right hand. So I can tell you where my mind goes. I also asked the forensics pathologist at State Crime Law, the search and rescue leader said, ask for entomology exam.

Which is a.

Bug exam of either water bugs or land bugs. And so I specifically asked for an entomology exam for water bugs and land bugs. And the answer I got back was there were no bugs. So they were able to do a toxicology screen. And I don't understand this either. They were able to do a toxicology screen from internal organs, okay?

but they could not pull DNA from the bone marrow or the femur or the brain tissue or the liver tissue or any other large bony mass.

They couldn't pull DNA.

And so that seemed so unusual to me to have sufficient tissue viable enough to pull a toxicology And they pulled a qualitative, not a quantitative, for presence. So if the drug had ever been present in the body. And they ran about 25, 30 drugs.

I don't remember them all.

But the only two that showed up was THC, which Rebecca had a medical marijuana card, and caffeine.

She was a coffee drinker.

Yeah, these aren't known to kill people.

Right.

And so the initial autopsy determines what is her manner of death.

Manner of death and cause of death. So because Ryan Funk submitted in his report to the state crime lab that Rebecca was last seen at the river, then that's what drove the autopsy report.

The state crime lab found no signs of gunshots or stabbing wounds on Rebecca's body and presumed that her death was the result of a drowning accident. Angela reasonably has issues with this because no one ever saw Rebecca at the river.

The truth of the matter is, is that even by Mineral County's Sheriff's Department own admission of what they posted online and published online, Rebecca was last seen on dry ground at Town Pump, 30 miles away. She wasn't last seen at the river. Nobody's come forward to say they saw her at the river.

And this is a popular spot in the summertime.

Very popular spot in the summertime.

But when they did identify her body with dental records and, you know, determine that she had been found deceased, how did that sort of shift your mission here?

Well, there were even questions about the dental records. I had copies of dental x-rays that were taken two weeks before she died. She had a full set of teeth. In fact, I had three different sets of dental records for the past two years. And I had gone around to the dentist to gather those up. And of course, one dentist actually turned me in, even though I had guardianship papers.

And called the police on me.

Wow.

Yeah. Said they had some woman in here asking for dental records for Rebecca Barsotti. And they had told me the police do this. I said, well, this was in October and Rebecca had gone missing in July. And I said, well, they haven't done it. So I'm doing it as a guardian, you know. And in fact, the police department had told me they wait until after a body is found before they do. asked for dental records, which made no sense to me because what if you don't find a body for 10 years?

Those dental records are gone. Gone.

They're not available anymore. So they're not proactive in their pursuit. But between the reports, it ended up that nine teeth were missing. I think it said nine teeth on the autopsy. And I was like, but Rebecca had a full set of teeth before she went missing. So what happened to the teeth? You know, and is this Rebecca? I mean, it's nine teeth missing. I don't know enough about, you know, like the profile of the mouth and all that. Nine teeth is a lot of teeth.

To be missing.

Who did you bring these concerns to about these discrepancies?

So the concerns were brought to the county attorney and to the state crime lab. I think I copied the sheriff's department documents. By that time, we were on such a contentious, in such a contentious relationship with the sheriff department that communication said pretty much completely broken down. So I was sending communications to everybody else, the county attorney, the state crime lab, the forensics pathologist, DOJ, but it wasn't going to the sheriff's department because the sheriff's department wasn't responding and they weren't doing anything. And so, you know, I had a list of questions as to the discrepancies, no answers. I let my attorneys know the discrepancies in my mind, okay, but no direction as to what to do.

So it was all a very frustrating time.

As an interviewer, this story certainly isn't about me, but speaking with Angela and researching Rebecca's disappearance and her life, her story, I think the fact that the investigation did not take a long, hard look at her estranged husband is its own injustice. Because regardless of how Rebecca's life ended, she had been living in fear and under threats. She'd called the police, documented it, asked for help. She also left her relationship. And so, accidental drowning or not, I believe that her disappearance and death deserved a closer look at her life. Because her life matters so much more.

And for her mother, the lingering questions deserved to be answered. So in the meantime that this is all happening and things are contentious between you and local officials and local law enforcement, what becomes of Rebecca's remains?

So Rebecca's remains are ultimately cremated. We were not informed on the date they were cremated. In fact, there was a real like fine line of communication. I was literally communicating with my attorney, at what point do I get the autopsy report? Because we were talking about cremation and I'd never gotten an autopsy report. And my attorney said, well, you received it. And I said, I absolutely did not.

And then they realized I never had. I got the autopsy report. I'm reading through it. I'm seeing discrepancies. And I'm literally just like speed typing to my attorney. I have this question, this question, and this question and copying it to the state crime lab. Little did I know or was I aware that the body had already been transferred to the funeral home and was already undergoing cremation.

And who was then in possession of the remains?

David.

David Barsotti, her estranged husband.

And as far as like legal processes go, I mean, they were estranged and certainly headed toward divorce. Were they legally separated? No.

So in the state of Montana, and that's one thing that I'm working on is trying to coordinate with people who live there and have a voice for a vote. In the state of Montana, you have to be separated 180 days, physically separated.

And then you can file.

And Rebecca was separated 132 of the 180 days. But because there was no legal filing, David was still considered her husband. So you're either married or not married. And he was still considered her husband. So ultimately, the victim of abuse got returned to her abuser. And what I want to see change is that when a person is missing and there is a record of documented domestic violence and domestic abuse, that there should be an immediate divorce.

There should be an escape clause in there. Because the other scenario could have been what if Rebecca was found and she was injured enough that she could not speak for herself, David would have been the one making medical decisions for her.

Which would have been totally inappropriate and against what she would have wanted.

Exactly.

And regardless of whether alive or dead, injured or not injured, the abused should never be returned to their abuser. In order to protect the abused, you have to be able to file that divorce and to make that state, you know, so that it's a legal document. And there's also the Slayer statute in Montana, which the Montana Bar Association assured me would protect Rebecca. But I had two attorneys who said, no, it was up to interpretation that the Slayer statute would have only protected Rebecca if David had been convicted with domestic violence.

Which would be so hard to do once someone is deceased.

Right. But also in Rebecca's case, during the jury trial, the jury was not allowed to be informed she was missing. So therefore, David's attorney was able to say, as you can see, Rebecca's not here at the hearing she requested, which in and of itself swayed the jury.

How could they allow him to say that and not allow the other side to say because she is a missing person?

Right. I don't understand that. And so that's the other thing I'd like to change in Montana specifically. That if a person is missing, the jury is to be informed.

And so, because not only did... David Barsotti, known abuser, known, at least accused abuser, have possession of Rebecca's remains, but he was able to sort of, by way of a third party, obtain a life insurance payout. Can you talk to me a little bit about that?

Yeah.

So we had asked the detectives that were assigned to the case early on to look into Rebecca's life insurance, if there was any kind of policy on Rebecca, because I had called Montana Insurance State Commissioner and they said they couldn't speak to me because it was a live or an open case. And when they transferred the case back to Mineral County, I asked for an update and they said, oh, we never heard back. One year later, we get a phone call, an anonymous phone call telling us that there was a accidental life insurance policy taken out on Rebecca.

Payable upon accidental death only.

How could they possibly determine her death was accidental?

Well, within 24 hours, the sheriff, Sheriff Mike Toth, had made the proclamation, if you will, that it was an accidental death within 24 hours without any evidence.

And the insurance company just said, okay.

Yeah, I reached out to the insurance company.

After we found that out and little did I know that by the time we got the information and by the time I reached out to the insurance company, they had already paid it out. And I kept asking, you know, can you please follow up on this? Can you please update me? And they finally did update me. And I have that in writing as well. David called the insurance company 33 times in 18 months. And they didn't find that odd. And they called him the day after Rebecca went missing to ensure that the policy was still in effect and had not lapsed. And that's in their letter back to me.

Before anyone was even looking for her.

Mm hmm. Yeah.

So there was so much.

And then their last paragraph was, we saw no reason to withhold payment.

And then I'm.

Like, 33 phone calls in 18 months, a call after the day, Rebecca goes missing to make sure the policy's still in force. And you find nothing that alerts you. And then after Rebecca died, of course, I really just think nobody expected us to show up. They expected that Rebecca would go missing.

And nobody would care.

Because that's what David had everybody believing.

Right. That nobody cared.

So when I called you, there had been... It's not necessarily a development, but there's something had happened in regards to David. Can you talk to me about that?

Yeah. So on June.

16th, I got notified that somebody made a comment on Rebecca's Facebook page. And so I went to that comment and the person had said, David Barsotti is dead. And then in parentheses, they put 7-14-2026. And I had gotten a notice like that in April through Messenger that David died, but nobody could confirm it. So I just thought it was another scam. But like within five or 10 minutes, my PI, John Baker, called me and said, have you heard?

And I said, well, It's strange you should call because I just got a notice that said David Varsady had died. And I said, I don't know if it's true or not. So he called and confirmed it. I had hoped that Mineral County would do the right thing since Rebecca was a missing person and at one time married to David, which they reminded me of over and over again.

But they did not. No one in a.

Position of authority bothered to contact me. And I called them on the afternoon of the 16th, looking to follow up on a post complaint I had filed against Ryan Funk, who was the responding deputy of Rebecca's case, and now the sheriff. And I had informed the county attorney out of courtesy that I had filed that and never heard anything back. And so I spoke with her. She confirmed that she did receive it.

And I waited.

I waited to see if she was going to say anything. And she finally asked if I had heard the rumor. And I said, you mean of David Barsotti being dead? And she said, yes. And she said, it's true. Now, mind you, no one, they've never made a public statement. I've heard from many people that a welfare check was called, but nothing, a lot of people in Mineral County have scanners.

Nobody heard a welfare check call come through.

What have you heard about the need details surrounding his passing?

So I have a copy of the certificate of death. It's a public record. And on it, it says manner of death by natural causes. And cause of death is alcoholism, complications to alcoholism. I'm assuming no autopsy was done because the manner of death and the cause of death, it removes the need to do those tests, right? perform an autopsy.

And I'm assuming they did it because David did have a lot of DUIs.

So they just assumed.

I see.

But Mineral County assumes a lot. Yeah.

And so now that David is dead, what does that mean, if anything, to you about this?

At first, that meant the secrets went to his grave with him. But I don't think David's the only one who knows what happened. So I'm hopeful that eventually people will come forward.

And, you know, bring me to the point of Rebecca's legacy.

So we operate, we bring Rebecca's legacy to the people either in person or on social media because we believe that there was systemic failure in the judicial system and the police department. And we also believe that Rebecca is not the only one that happened to. In fact, in Montana, it happens more times than what anyone would want to admit.

And so it's our hope that we'll bring light to that along with other people who have been affected and that we'll give voice to people who have experienced the same injustices or similar injustices. your indigenous nations, they have embraced us because they looked past the color of the skin and realized that what we experienced and what Rebecca experienced was very close to what their own women have experienced in missing and murdered cases.

Being overlooked by law enforcement and not searched for and not cared about.

So what we have done is we have become boots on the ground. We go into the community here in Richmond, Virginia. We set up a table with Rebecca's legacy in just a short brief brochure about her story. But then we collaborate with other domestic violence shelters in the area and we have their information available, their hotlines available, their services for safe planning strategies, prevention, education, awareness. making people accountable.

And it's our hope and dream that we will, we're a small nonprofit, we're a very small nonprofit right now, but that we will grow and that we will gain traction so that we can implement the prevention by education and that we can implement accountability That accountability is in all forms. Restaurants can have signs up in the bathroom for victims of domestic violence with codes. How do they let the bartender know that they're experiencing domestic violence with the person they're there? There's actually systems set up. And it's just a matter of getting the word out and getting them initiated. There's hand signals for a person who's experiencing domestic violence. But the community at large doesn't know

those hand signals.

Right, and how much good are they doing if people aren't aware?

Right, right.

So our goal is to educate, to help prevent. We make available free of charge a search and rescue coloring book for children that is provided to us by Community United Efforts Search and Rescue in North Carolina. My sister created a coloring book Happy hearts, healthy hands. Anyways, it's about building healthy relationships, specifically for four to eight-year-olds. And these are integrative coloring books to be used side by side with an adult or an older person to talk about it. And so that's prevention. It's education and prevention.

And then there's other programs that we align ourselves with, loveisrespect.org. which targets your teenagers and your college age students. So we are a catalyst to get the information into the community. Instead of expecting the victim to go to a seminar on domestic violence, we're at the flea market. We're at the gun show. We're at the fly fishing festival. We're at the substance abuse fair. And we meet these people right where they're at.

Yeah.

That's amazing. I mean, I think that just from what I've learned about Rebecca and who she was, it seems like something she would have been so happy to know that you're doing with her story.

Yeah.

And we spend a good deal of time with it promoting awareness that pets don't need to be left behind because Rebecca loved her beloved dog, Surs. Yeah.

And Surs was very important to her.

Yeah.

So we also can put people in touch with those resources.

Thank you so much, Angela, for taking the time to speak with me today.

You're welcome.

To share your story and Rebecca's. And I know our listeners will be so moved by it.

Thank you.

Thank you so much. I appreciate it, Faysha. I appreciate the opportunity very much.

So that was our two-part series speaking with Angela Mastrofito about her daughter, Rebecca. Authorities did not and do not suspect foul play in Rebecca's death. And as we covered in the episode, the state crime lab determined Rebecca had drowned. But no matter what happened, it's clear to me, listening to Angela and hearing Rebecca's story, that she was the victim of domestic abuse. And it's easy to understand why Angela continues to fight so hard to share Rebecca's story and call out the gaps that she sees in the investigations.

I want to touch on the Slayer statute Angela mentioned. So had David Barsotti ever been convicted on domestic violence charges, his rights over her estate and insurance policy or any possible way of potentially profiting from her death would have been taken from him. And it looks like 47 states have a similar statute. I don't know much about this, so I looked into it. And It sounds like the Slayer Statute is a good start, but it's imperfect. In certain cases, if a defendant is found not guilty by reason of insanity, sometimes this can create a loophole wherein they are still allowed to inherit from someone whose death they are responsible for. In other instances, even if someone is found responsible for killing someone that they would stand

to inherit from, the killer's own children can sometimes still gain from that inheritance, even if it bypasses their parent who is responsible for this person's death. And I could see that going both ways if it's, say, like one parent murdering another. Obviously, you want those children to still inherit.

But I think that that's probably not usually the case when they're talking about this loophole. And then additionally, I wanted to speak a little bit about Rebecca's legacy, which is a nonprofit. organization founded by Angela to give victims of domestic violence and those who are missing or murdered and their families a voice while providing resources, awareness, and educational information. You can find a link to their website in our show notes. You know, as we heard in the episode, Rebecca deeply loved her dog Cerberus. And I love that this came up in our conversation because it's actually so important. Many people experiencing hardship, whether it's maybe they're unhoused or attempting to leave an abusive relationship, they

struggle with having to leave behind their pets. And Under the Resources tab on the Rebecca's Legacy website, they have a list of pet-safe resources for victims of domestic abuse. Angela is really doing incredible work to carry on Rebecca's story with purpose, despite the difficulty that comes with speaking about such an incredible tragedy. And I just want to thank her again for taking the time to speak with us.

There's more on the case on Rebecca's Legacy, the website that's in the show notes. There's also episodes about Rebecca Barsotti's disappearance on Hidden True Crime that have unearthed interviews that I wasn't able to touch on in our episodes, but I would encourage you to check it out. So thank you so much for listening.

We will be back next week.

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Artwork by Vanessa Lilac.

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