The Last Invention· Staffel 1· Folge 3
EP 3: Playing the Wrong Game
Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2025 · 51 min
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Shownotes
What if the path to a true thinking machine was found not just in a lab… but in a game? For decades, AI’s greatest triumphs came from games: checkers, chess, Jeopardy. But no matter how many trophies it took from humans, it still couldn’t think. In this episode, we follow the contrarian scientists who refused to give up on a radical idea, one that would ultimately change how machines learn. But their breakthrough came with a cost: incredible performance, at the expense of understanding how it actually works.
THIS EPISODE FEATURES:
Yoshua Bengio, Liv Boeree, Geoffrey Hinton, Karen Hao, Keach Hagey, Jasmine Sun
LINKS:
Karen Hao’s book: Empire of AI (amazon.com/dp/B0DR3873M9/?bestFormat=true&…)
Keach Hagey's book: The Optimist (amazon.com/dp/1324075961?ref=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_…)
Liv Boeree's podcast: Win Win (winwinpodcast.com)
CREDITS:
This episode of The Last Invention was reported and produced by Andy Mills, Gregory Warner, Andrew Parsons, Megan Phelps-Roper, Matthew Boll, Seth Temple Andrews, and Ethan Mannello. It is hosted by Gregory Warner
Music for this episode was composed by Scott Devendorf (instagram.com/distantstation/?utm_source=qr), Ben Lanz (instagram.com/lanzprojects), Cobey Bienert (open.spotify.com/artist/1cHhFEJWNq6SVKlIqoTy5o…), and Matthew Boll
The Last Invention artwork by Jacob Boll (jacobboll.com)
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