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The Long Game with Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer

U.S. Intelligence Under Assault and the High-Stakes AI Race With China

Donnerstag, 17. September 2026 · 1 h 20

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Julia Curlee, a former CIA analyst and acting senior director at the National Security Council, joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to explain why she believes America’s intelligence system is being weakened from within.

Curlee also discusses her experience briefing Vice President Mike Pence and why she left government after nearly 20 years. After the interview, Then to argue for and against reaching a deal with the U.S. and continuing Beijing’s open-weight strategy.

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Photo Credit : Julia Curlee

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