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The Long Game with Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer

When Washington Smells Weakness

Freitag, 21. November 2025 · 58 min

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In this episode, Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer cover:

- Who gained what after Trump’s meeting with Saudi Crown Prince MBS?

- How does the corruption scandal inside Zelensky’s government intersects with a new U.S. push for a Ukraine peace deal?

- Tabletop: the risks of re-orienting the national-security apparatus to immigration enforcement.

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Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available here (staytuned.substack.com/s/longgame).

References and Supplemental Readings:

- “Disrupting the first reported AI-orchestrated cyber espionage campaign” Anthropic Report, (anthropic.com/news/disrupting-AI-espionage) 11/13/25.

- “The Risky Movement to Make America Nuclear Again,” Michael Riley in Bloomberg News (bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-10-30/silicon…), 10/30/25.

Watch the video of this episode on Youtube. (youtube.com/@podlonggame)

Have a question for Jake or Jon? Email us at letters@cafe.com or leave us a comment on Substack.

The Long Game is produced by the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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