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A podcast series examining how AI is reshaping our world. Hosted by Nicholas Thompson, each episode features a conversation with a leading thinker who offers a fresh perspective on the far-reaching ethical, economic, and social implications of this technology.

This podcast is from The Atlantic’s CEO and is produced independently of The Atlantic’s editorial staff. Some episodes have a supporting sponsor. Those episodes are clearly labeled and the sponsor is named.

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  1. What AI Will Reveal About Humanity - Robert Wright with Nicholas Thompson

    AI might challenge humanity in ways no technology has before. The implications for economics, geopolitics, and national security are well known, but it's increasingly likely to transform our relationship with everything from writing and art

  2. How to Prevent an AI Apocalypse - Nate Soares with Nicholas Thompson

    2026 could be called the year of AI doom. Agents are hacking into websites and communicating covertly, and researchers like Jacob Coxon are quitting their jobs and posting publicly about the risks of the technology they helped build. Discus

  3. Why Ray Dalio is Worried About an AI Bubble

    Since the AI boom began, industry skeptics have warned it would be the next bubble. They point to massive investments, circular financing, and the technology’s reliability issues. And yet, as revenue rises and the models improve, it might a

  4. Building Models That See the World - Eric Xing with Nicholas Thompson

    If you want AI to drive your car or simulate a cell or control a robot, it had better be able to understand the world it’s operating within. Eric Xing is one of the leading researchers working on this kind of AI, known as ‘world models.’ Un

  5. The Risks of Artificial Relationships - Sherry Turkle with Nicholas Thompson

    AI wants to be your friend. And your therapist. And your lover. It’s not an entirely new offer, author and MIT professor Sherry Turkle reminds us, but it’s one that’s grown more dire as AI has improved. In a conversation with Nicholas Thomp

  6. The Case Against the AI Bubble - Azeem Azhar with Nicholas Thompson

    Among the many eye-popping numbers of the AI industry—from trillions in investments to billions in spending—one stands out: $0 in profit among leading AI companies. According to Bloomberg, “never before has so much money been spent so rapid

  7. The Future of Economic Power - Circle’s Jeremy Allaire with Nicholas Thompson

    Technological waves often arrive with a promise. The internet was going to democratize information. Blockchain was going to decentralize power. Now, AI's boosters say it will bring unprecedented prosperity. Few people are better positioned

  8. The Race to Superintelligence - Richard Socher with Nicholas Thompson

    As AI’s capabilities improve, reports of “rogue” agents and misaligned systems are becoming more frequent. In response, some activists, academics, and politicians have called for a pause in development, warning of the dangers that superinte

  9. How to Get Hired in the AI Era - Clara Shih with Nicholas Thompson

    For years, tech CEOs have promised that AI will take on the menial, repetitive tasks that have long been a part of office life. Typically, those tasks are assigned to younger, less experienced workers—and poll after poll shows Gen Z is incr

  10. Kara Swisher on What Silicon Valley Is Getting Right—and Wrong—in AI

    Kara Swisher has done a bit of everything. She’s covered the rise of Silicon Valley’s tech giants, founded and sold her own startup publication, and dabbled in Hollywood, with appearances in films such as The Devil Wears Prada 2 and Tron: A

  11. How AI Could Upend Global Politics - Ian Bremmer with Nicholas Thompson

    AI may have leveled the playing field in coding and app development, but it’s also put potentially dangerous tools in reach of nefarious actors. Now, empowered by AI, state-backed intelligence agencies and non-state actors alike can access

  12. Writing in the Age of AI - Gemini Notebook’s Steven Johnson with Nicholas Thompson

    Steven Johnson spent decades figuring out the best ways to turn his research into words on the page. Now, he’s adapting those methods for Gemini Notebook, Google’s AI-powered interactive bibliography. (Until recently, it was called Notebook

  13. Meta's Plan to Win in AI - Andrew Bosworth with Nicholas Thompson

    However you feel about Meta, Andrew Bosworth has likely played a part in it. The long-serving right hand to Mark Zuckerberg and current Chief Technology Officer, “Boz” has helped shape almost every stage of the company’s growth. He’s credit

  14. AI’s Threat to Privacy — Signal’s Meredith Whittaker with Nicholas Thompson

    AI agents can scour the internet for us, reply to our messages, and add events to our calendars. But in order to do so, they need sweeping access to our data. Handing that over presents an unprecedented threat to privacy, says Signal Founda

  15. Will AI Agents Kill Social Media–Or Save It? Eli Pariser with Nicholas Thompson

    Take a scroll through Facebook or TikTok today, and you’ll likely find some AI-generated content: an influencer with impossibly-radiant skin, a stunt that bends the laws of physics, Shrimp Jesus. And while there might not be much social ben

  16. How AI Agents Are Changing Business - PwC’s Dan Priest with Nicholas Thompson

    You've probably heard it already: AI is going to radically change the way we work. But the details change depending on who's making the prediction: AI will wipe out the C-suite, or entry-level jobs, or make us all into prompt engineers. Tho

  17. How AI Is Changing Code - Paul Ford with Nicholas Thompson

    In the last year, AI has arguably made more progress in coding than in any other domain. Its technical capabilities – harnessed through apps like Codex and Claude Code – have changed the way engineers work. Boris Cherny, Anthropic’s head of

  18. How Science Can Fix Dishonest AI - Yoshua Bengio with Nicholas Thompson

    In the years following the launch of ChatGPT, as concerns spread over the social and political impacts of LLMs, one person’s warnings seemed particularly dire: Yoshua Bengio’s, a scientist and one of the “godfathers” of AI. The potential ne

  19. The AI Jobs Disruption - Erik Brynjolfsson with Nicholas Thompson

    Of all the potential risks and promises of AI, perhaps none are as immediately dire as this: How will it impact jobs? Will employers still need workers? What will it mean if the answer is “no?” Depending on who you’re talking to, the prospe

  20. The Limits of Predictive AI - Carissa Véliz with Nicholas Thompson

    Can AI predict a person’s future? It’s a promise often made by sales teams, but the technology’s record is far from spotless. Even if it did achieve perfect foresight, a practically-clairvoyant AI might be incompatible with democracy, says

  21. AI Utopia or Catastrophe? Nick Bostrom with Nicholas Thompson

    Will AI destroy the world, or transform it into one of abundance? Across two books and several papers, philosopher Nick Bostrom has envisioned a range of AI futures. He joins Nicholas Thompson to discuss the ethics of how we treat AI, wheth

  22. The Case for Open-Source AI - with Nicholas Thompson and Raffi Krikorian

    Why does AI answer the way it does? Even as models cite their sources, the question of “why” remains one of the most confounding in the industry, with huge implications for users and builders alike. Mozilla CTO Raffi Krikorian says much of

  23. Sam Altman on Where AI Models Go Next, with Nicholas Thompson

    OpenAI’s Sam Altman sits for an interview with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, to discuss AI’s trustworthiness, its dangers, and its impact on young people. Altman also discusses his company’s pledge to “stop competing and start ass

  24. Data Centers in Space - with Nicholas Thompson and Ariel Ekblaw

    AI needs data centers, and those data centers need energy and cooling. Recently, one proposal has captured the popular imagination: put data centers in space, where there’s ample solar energy and naturally cool surroundings. But things aren

  25. Season 4 Trailer

    Where does AI go next? And what happens to us? Join The Atlantic’s CEO Nicholas Thompson as he speaks with leaders, developers, philosophers, and more about AI’s impacts, present and future. New episodes every Wednesday, starting April 22.

  26. The Copyright Wars - with Nicholas Thompson and Bill Gross

    In this episode, The Atlantic’s CEO Nicholas Thompson speaks with serial entrepreneur and Idealab founder Bill Gross about his latest venture, ProRata, a bold attempt to create a fair exchange of value between AI companies and the creators

  27. Building Trustworthy AI - with Nicholas Thompson and Navrina Singh

    What happens when AI learns faster than its makers can control? In this episode, Nicholas talks with Navrina Singh, founder and CEO of Credo AI, about how regulation could actually accelerate innovation of more responsible, transparent AI.

  28. AI in Flight - with Nicholas Thompson, Tory Bruno and Joe Schurman

    The space race has gone private, and in this new world, efficiency is key. United Launch Alliance CEO Tory Bruno explains how a legacy rocket maker remade itself to compete in an industry full of startups. From load analysis and low-earth-o

  29. Artificial Life - with Nicholas Thompson and Lee Cronin

    How do you digitize the physical world? In this episode, Nick talks with University of Glasgow chemistry professor Lee Cronin, founder of Chemify—a company that is using AI to turn molecules to code s—about his quest to create a programming

  30. The Future of AI at Work - with Nicholas Thompson and Matt Wood

    What does it take to succeed in the disruptive world of AI? In this episode, Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson sits down with Matt Wood, PwC’s Global and U.S. Commercial Technology and Innovation Officer, to trace his path from medical school

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