The Oprah Podcast· Folge 113

What If Your Greatest Adversity Has a Purpose?

Donnerstag, 15. Oktober 2026 · 1 h 02

MP3

Shownotes

BUY THE BOOK!
Ahead of All Parting by Barry Michels
⁠amzn.to/3TTMT8B⁠ (amzn.to/3TTMT8B)

Psychotherapist and bestselling co-author of The Tools, Barry Michels, joins the podcast to discuss his extraordinary new memoir, Ahead of All Parting. This is a conversation for anyone searching for meaning in life’s most difficult moments and seeking to discover how transformation is possible in the face of extreme adversity. Barry has been diagnosed with a terminal brain disease, Lewy body dementia. Despite the inevitable pain and grief that come with a devastating health diagnosis, he now sees it as the path he was meant to walk—a path that has opened him up in ways he never thought possible, revealing the power of vulnerability, love, prayer and the written word. Drew Barrymore, one of Barry’s longtime clients, also joins the conversation to share the life-changing impact he’s had on her life.

- Intro
- Welcome Barry Michels, author of Ahead of All Parting
- Barry speaks on Lewy Body dementia
- Grief after hearing a diagnosis
- When did Barry notice something was off
- Getting a diagnosis
- Adversity has a purpose
- Not hiding after a diagnosis
- Welcome Drew Barrymore
- Drew Barrymore on going through challenges
- Drew Barrymore on watching Barry navigate his illness
- How the diagnosis changed Barry as a therapist
- Appreciating life
- Feeling guilt with a diagnosis
: Welcome Alex, who was diagnosed with kidney failure
- Religion during a diagnosis
- Barry Michels on writing
- Barry Michels on seeing his mortality

Follow Oprah Winfrey on Social: ⁠instagram.com/oprahpodcast ⁠ (instagram.com/oprahpodcast/%20)⁠facebook.com/oprahpodcast/⁠ (facebook.com/oprahpodcast)⁠instagram.com/oprah/?hl=en⁠ (instagram.com/oprah/?hl=en)⁠facebook.com/oprahwinfrey/⁠ (facebook.com/oprahwinfrey)
Listen to the full podcast: ⁠open.spotify.com/show/0tEVrfNp92a7lbjDe6GMLI⁠ (open.spotify.com/show/0tEVrfNp92a7lbjDe6GMLI)⁠podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-oprah-podcas… (podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-oprah-podcas…)

0:00 / 0:00