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Turing Award Winner: NSA, Public Key Cryptography, Crypto Wars | Martin Hellman

Montag, 6. Juli 2026 · 1 h 02

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Martin Hellman is a Turing Award winner who helped to invent public-key cryptography against the NSA's wishes. I interviewed him all about his work and why it broke the law at the time.

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Timestamps:

() Intro
() Why his work broke the law
() How people did encryption before
() The crypto wars
() The story behind Diffie Hellman key exchange
() Signatures vs key exchange
() RSA patent wars
() Why inventions happen at similar times
() What he worked on after cryptography
() His thoughts on death
() Advice for his younger self
() Outro

Where to find Martin:

• Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Hellman
• Website: ee.stanford.edu/~hellman

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Referenced in this episode:

• Martin Hellman's “The Evolution of Public Key Cryptography”: youtube.com/watch?v=Tev3tVzH91s
• Keys Under Doormats: cacm.acm.org/opinion/keys-under-doormats
• Cryptography's Role in Securing the Information Society (CRISIS report): nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/5131/cryptog…
• Secure Communications Over Insecure Channels: doi.org/10.1145/359460.359473
• New Directions in Cryptography: doi.org/10.1109/TIT.1976.1055638

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