The Pragmatic Embedded Podcast· Folge 82
Crossover with Mob Mentailty Part 2
Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2025 · 47 min
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Shownotes
Key Topics
• [] Cross-disciplinary mobbing with firmware and hardware engineers in IoT development
• [] Addressing efficiency objections: Local vs global optimization in embedded teams
• [] DevOps collaboration patterns and reducing friction between software and infrastructure teams
• [] Selling mob programming to management: Building trust through continuous delivery
• [] Dynamic team composition and the law of personal mobility in technical teams
• [] Coordinating mob teams with waterfall processes and hardware gate systems
• [] Automated firmware protocol documentation and testing infrastructure
Notable Quotes
"When you initially hear about mobbing, you think everybody's inactive, but there's a lot of excess thought capacity around programming that can happen - somebody can be thinking about refactorings while others are typing the solution." — Chris Lucian
"If you're all there, that whole feedback loop can happen in 15 minutes as opposed to 15 days. It's like technical debt - you pay now or pay later, and if you pay later, it's going to be more expensive." — Austin Chadwick
"We tend to have multiple releases a day all the way to production. Most mobs will deliver to production at least twice a day - four hours of work and then deliver to prod." — Chris Lucian
Resources Mentioned
• Mob Mentality Show (mobmentalityshow.com) - Podcast dedicated to mob programming practices and extreme programming techniques
• Kent Beck's Test-Driven Development Book - Foundational resource for understanding true TDD practices in embedded development
• Amy Edmondson's Teaming Book - Framework for understanding high uncertainty and high interdependence scenarios in technical teams
• Liminal Thinking - Mental framework for breaking through belief-based barriers in agile transformation
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