420. The psychology of weed

0:04 Hello everybody. I'm Jemma Spake and welcome back to the Psychology of Your Twenties, the podcast where we talk through the biggest changes, moments, and transitions of our twenties and what they mean for our psychology. Hello everybody, Welcome back to the show. Welcome back to the podcast. It is so great to have you here back for another episode as we, of course break down the psychology of our twenties.

0:34 Back as well for an episode. I know a lot of you have been waiting for Thank you for your patience, but I just felt like I felt like we had to wait for episode for twenty to do this topic. For esthetic purposes. Of course, today we are talking about the psychology of weed. I know a lot of people have thoughts on cannabis usage and as a drug. You know, it's obviously very easy to villainize, but cultures and societies have been using cannabis for thousands of years. It is one of the oldest drugs, oldest plants in fact, that has it's essentially co evolved alongside humanity. And as we are and as society is taking a much more liberal approach to cannabis, I think the psychology behind it is very unexploited and incredibly fascinating. I think the more liberal

1:27 approach that we're taking to cannabis usage has been really amazing for so many people. It's been adopted for chronic pain management, for therapeutic practices, it's rolled back a lot of unfair criminalization, amongst many other things. There are still important considerations we do need to know if we want to take part, especially from an emotional, biological and psychological standpoint.

1:50 You may have heard this thing that no one has ever overdosed from weed. Weed is an addictive We need to kind of debunk these a little bit. There are two side to cannabis consumption that mean that it can be as dangerous as it is liberating and enjoyable. So that's what we're going to talk about today, as well as just the science and what it does to your brain, why it makes you more hungry, why certain people get anxious other people don't. There's going to of course be some resources in the description if you need them, or if this episode brings up any concerns about dependency for you or someone you know. We are going to take a very scientific approach today. So as always, this episode isn't an endorsement of doing drugs. But let's be honest.

2:35 I'm in my twenties, I went to a university in a state marijuana was legal, So I'm not going to be a hypocrite and say don't do it, or pass any judgment or for your usage or lack of usage. I just think the psychology is very fascinating. It's important purely from like a research standpoint. Weed is just has there so much cool information about it. So without further ado, let's get into it. To begin understanding the psychology of weed, we have to start with knowing what the heck it actually does to our brains and bodies to make us feel the way it does. Basically, where does the high feeling come from? A lot of the feeling of being high starts with something called the endocannabinoid system. This is

3:26 a natural system in your body, everybody's body, and in your brain as well, and it helps regulate mood, stress, appetite, memory, pain, reward, even how strongly we react to things around us, basically how we interpret sensations. In other words, it is involved in many of the exact same functions that people notice that notice shifting when they consume weed. Fun fact, the endocannabinoid system is also the same system responsible for the high feeling that some people get from exercise. Everybody has an endocannabinoid system, and every body naturally produces its own endocannabinoid molecules. Whether you smoke weed, whether you don't, whether you've ever seen weed, looked at weed, smeltweed, or not,

4:15 your body already has a system in place. In particular, your body naturally produces two well known cannabis like chemicals nandamide, which is known as the Bliss molecule, and two ag These chemicals naturally bind to cannabinoid receptors in your body to influence mood, pain, appetite, memory. Another fun fact, a Harvard report found that we actually have more cannabinoid receptors in our bodies, specifically CB one receptors than nearly any other receptor in our brain and in our system. That is how important they are to how we function. Now.

4:56 Cannabis works by interfering with this system and acting on those same receptors of which we have many, but in ways that is artificial, meaning basically, the chemicals that are coming in weren't naturally produced by the body and may occur at like a higher level than what the body is normally used to, meaning it disrupts the system, meaning we get the symptoms of being high that we are used to. The main reason weed can feel euphoric or strange, or calming or even disorientating is because of its chemical makeup.

5:31 One University of Mississippi study has found that there are over one hundred and forty cannabinoids as well as other chemicals that make up the chemical structure of cannabis. When those enter our body, they kind of flood every single system and they create the reactions that we know. But when we talk about mainly the psychological sensation that accompanies weed, we are mainly talking about two specific cannabinoids that have the most impact. THHC and CBD. They are both active components found in cannabis. They affect the body and brain very differently in the most and are the most significant of the chemicals that make up cannabis. So basically they are responsible for the majority of the feeling that we

6:19 have in response to smoking weed or consuming weed. So THHC is the main psychoactive component. This is the component most responsible for the classic high that people feel, so that shift in time awareness the increase in appetite, the foggy memory and thoughts, patents, thought patterns, everything, and for some people as well, anxiety and paranoia. It's THHC. CBD is very different. It does not produce the classic high associated with THHC, and it does not seem to bind to the brain's CB one receptors in the same direct, powerful way that THHC does. Instead, CBD has a much broader and more indirect pharmacology. So what that basically means is that THHD is coming in and only really hitting one kind of receptor. CBD is hitting multiple different kinds

7:14 all across the body, including CB two receptors, which actually occur primarily in our immune system, so it's involved in several systems. It's basically what we're saying, And CBD is what you would often see marketed as medical products, So CBD oil, CBD gummies, CBD drops. Some people think of it as like a weaker weed, but it's a different cannabis compound or derivative entirely with a completely different profile of feelings or sensations. It doesn't create that same overhaul in our consciousness. In research, it's often described as actually having a potentially calming, antipsychotic, anti convulsant, anti inflammatory kind of job or role. So whilst THCHC or typical weed tends to shift our experience psychologically into this altered, intensified state,

8:13 CBD is better understood as a compound that may influence our body more than our mind, but also our overall ability to regulate. Okay, turning away from medicinal uses. One question I got from a lot of you when I said on Instagram that we were doing this episode is why does it impact me? Why does smoking weed impact me differently compared to my friends, compared to my boyfriend, my girlfriend, I don't know my parents even, Why do I have such a different response. Two different people could consume the same product, same amount, same everything, and have wildly different psychological experiences, particularly when it comes to feelings of calm versus feelings of anxiety. Now, one of the main reasons is that, and one of the main reasons

9:03 it has such a different effect is simply because we have different brains and therefore different cannabinoid systems, different sensitivities to substances, different psychological profiles that impact how we interpret the physical and emotional sensations of weed. This is all affected by things like personality, genetics, stress. Even this setting that we are in when we use it currently, when we first used it. THHC changes how the brain filters attention, filters, reward, and emotion. But it can also feel very different depending on what is already going on internally or the state of your CB two or CB one receptors. Despite a lot of research suggesting that there is a casual link between cannabis and anxiety, a large twenty twenty four review

9:50 from researchers based at UCLA actually suggests that this association can be best explained by the fact that anxiety predisp exposing individuals tend to use cannabis more as a method of self medication compared to people who don't have an anxiety predisposition. So this suggests that it's not necessarily cannabis usage overall that makes you anxious. Makes everybody anxious, but it's just that when people with a certain anxiety profile or a certain personality do use cannabis, the effect of that on their anxiety is a lot worse. But also they may be more likely to try it in the first place, or lean on it in order to self soothe because of this promise initially that it's this calming, chill out, really dopey kind of feeling. Now, how our

10:48 anxiety presents beyond cannabis use just in general, is also different from person to person. Some people feel anxious when they feel out of control. Some people feel anxious when they feel like they have too much control and they're too overstimulated, they're too alert, they're too aware. You can kind of guess which person is going to have a worse reaction. Two people might both think that they're anxious.

11:11 But for somebody, weed is really calming. For others, it's not. For the person for whom their anxiety really manifests as needing to be alert, wanting to be on top of things, consuming weed might not always give them the break from time, memory and place and sensations that they want. It just feels like association. It feels really overwhelming. So maybe I'm not explaining that well, but basically you can come to the table like anxiety isn't one type of thing, right we think of anxiety as this one condition. They are actually variants to our anxiety. And that is why, even if we're not just comparing anxious and not anxious people, but two three four different anxious people. Every single one of them could respond differently to wead based on how

12:02 we interpret and how we relate to body sensations or bodily sensations, and how in control we want to feel. Cannabis doesn't just create anxiety out of the blue. It seems to amplify whatever emotion or feeling is already there, such as pre existing anxiety, especially when the dose of THHC is higher. That also may explain why, again, you may have different reactions across two different days because of your pre existing emotional state, on top of dosage, on top of your environment, on top of what is unconsciously going on for you. One day you're fine, the next day you're not. This is also the case for things like creativity as well. A lot of people feel way more creative when they're high because our thoughts can feel

12:51 less filtered and more unusual. It makes whatever emotional state we're in heightened. But the researcher is actually really interesting, this was an area I really want to look into, and it suggests that feeling creative is not the same as actually being creative. And when people smoke they just feel creative, They may not actually be more creative tangibly, practically, physically.

13:16 One twenty twenty three study found that cannabis use didn't increase actual creativity, but it did make people have biased evaluations of their creativity. Basically, that means they judge their own ideas other people's ideas as more creative. So if you've ever been high with your friends and thought, oh my god, this conversation we're having right now is hilarious.

13:38 This is the funniest thing ever. That was How has nobody ever thought of that joke or that saying or whatever, we should start a podcast. If you've ever had some bizarre idea for a movie or a joke that you're like, that is just this is genius, and you look back the next morning and you're like, that was really actually unfunny, Like that really was just bizarre. That's what's happening here.

14:00 That effect on perceived creativity has struck you. An earlier twenty fifteen research paper also found that highly potent cannabis may actually impair divergent thinking, and people that smoke regularly so weed may make thoughts feel more novel and exciting in the moment without necessarily making them better and actually making it harder for us to think differently long term. Essentially, what we're really talking about is the effect that it has now in a critic, what weed really does is impact emotional control. It can't make you more creative, but it can reduce the pressure and the I guess yeah, the pressure and the criticism surrounding surrounding you on a daily basis, and it just lets your thoughts flow differently.

14:53 It just weakens your impulses that are perhaps previously holding back creative or non create thoughts that you would usually have. What else we have to mention about how weed impacts us differently, Oh, we have to mention the hunger, the monchies, because weed make some people absolutely ravenous, absolutely ravenous, and other people they don't want to touch. They wouldn't, they don't want to touch even their favorite meal. Again, this is because the endocannabinoid system helps regulate not just your appetite, which it does, but also the pleasure and emotional pull of food. THHD appears to increase both wanting and liking food.

15:36 Food can seem more appealing and eating it feels more rewarding, based on kind of how THHD interacts with your CB one receptors. That is why the munchies. It's usually not physical hunger, but it's because the sensory experience of eating is so much better. The flavors feel richer, more satisfying. That's why food seems so irresistible. People who feel less reaction to tapc though, may not have that same drive.

16:09 And what we're really getting at here is that there are basically dozens of different psychological reaction profiles that you can have from consuming cannabis, based on how many CB one or CB two receptors you have, based on how much weed you're consuming, based on how much weed you've consumed in the past, based on your emotional state, based on your genetics. Again, you could have a completely different experience from somebody sitting across from you, and a completely different experience every single time you smoke. The common thread here is that weed doesn't create one fixed effect effect on people, but that it changes the intensity and meaning of the experience. Let's talk about the next big cannabis debate,

16:53 and I guesses what it could be. Okay, it's the question of whether weed is addictive. There is a big myth that I've seen online and heard in person that it's impossible to have a problem with weed because it's not addictive. Is that true or foss? Let's break it down. It is true that cannabis is not addictive in exactly the same way as every other drug, or alcohol or nicotine.

17:17 But it's also absolutely true that it has its own unique pattern of dependency. A useful way to talk about this is to separate biological dependence from psychological dependence. Biological dependence is what happens when the brain and body adapt to regular use of a substance over time. That means that they build up tolerance. It means that they need more of the substance for the same effect, and it also means that if they stop, they may experience physical withdrawal symptoms like irritability, recklessness, sleep problems, low mood, reduced appetite, anxiety.

17:53 The reason people may say that weed isn't as chemically addictive is because most people don't experience fears withdrawal symptoms the way they do with alcohol or harder drugs that typically affect our dopamine and gabber systems. You know, the next morning you might feel a little bit hazy, but your body isn't going to physically isn't going to have the same physical withdrawal pattern. Research does show this changes depending on when you start using cannabis, So if you start before sixteen, or if you smoke a lot, you can develop physical dependency and your likelihood of having a chemical or a biological addiction is much higher. But psychological dependence is a different story. Weed may not have the

18:40 same chemical biological pool, but when it becomes a form of emotional and psychological coping, it is just as dangerous. It is just as dependency driven or dependency risky. It can start replacing all other coping. It becomes difficult to stop, especially when it is the only thing citty between you and the pain you and the social anxiety you and the grief you and the hopelessness. Its ability to dull or remove intense emotions is rewarding. It's called negative reinforcement.

19:15 It removes a bad feeling, and that is just as motivational as when something gives us a good feeling, And that's why it's so intoxicating. Research into the drive behind cannabis use has consistently found that using weed to quote with distress with tension. Emotional discomfort is linked to more problematic use and worse outcomes, and often because of the way weed makes us feel, which is maybe quite sluggish, tired, lethargic, we rarely then go on to engage in things that might actually help us. So, rather than being something we just use casually for fun, in this situation, it becomes emotional management, or it becomes escapism from our current situation without actually allowing us to address the root problem. One

20:08 of the emotions or feelings I feel like links most significantly to cannabis usage is loneliness. This is a great example of how weed can become a way that we avoid the deeper feeling. The literature on the correlation between loneliness and smoking weed is just that correlational, So we can't say that smoking weed directly causes loneliness because that would be inaccurate. But what a lot of studies, including one in twenty sixteen, suggest is that social anxiety, solitary cannabis use, and cannabis related problems are often clustered together, and that using cannabis can actually be one of the roots that takes social discomfort and mild isolation and turns it into something more problematic, like full on solitude and

20:58 full on a bit of a personal loneliness crisis. And this makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense. Weed can amplify certain emotions that we can feel very self conscious of in front of people, in front of other people, but it can also make us feel better about other emotions that we feel individually. So therefore it can become something that we only do by ourselves because we want we want the we want the feeling.

21:24 We don't want to see or be around other people while we have the feeling, But the feeling in itself is still good. And that can mean that the more we really just enjoy that solitary time, smoking alone, consuming alone, the more of a comforting ritual it becomes, the more of a habit, the more that it can be a replacement for connection. If someone, maybe it's you right now, starts to use weed mainly in a solitary manner or to manage a broader sense of loneliness, that is dangerous territory because it becomes harder and harder to come back from and harder and harder to you know, feel okay with being around people. But again, people are different. Like for some people it's a purely social activity. It can

22:08 actually be a really fun source of memories. It just depends on your response, and it depends on everybody's response. So I think the thing we can't do when we talk about weed is make broad stroke statements that weed is bad, every weed user is lonely and depressed, because it's just not true. It's just something to be aware of about. How you know, there is a deep correlation between solitary usage and extended loneliness, meaning that yes, loneliness initially might cause somebody to smoke weed by themselves because they don't have anybody to smoke or consume with, but then it can make it worse, and it can be a mediating factor that continues to escalate the pattern. Okay, that was so intense. Let's take a break. I feel

22:52 like I just lectured everybody. Let's yeah, let's take a break, and then let's talk about the effect that it has on our brain, what it does to our emotions and motivation, and also our relationships in the long term. Stay with us. Okay, let's talk about the long term effects of smoking weed on the brain. Because I feel like this is something a lot of people want to know about. When people ask about the long term effects of smoking weed, one of the most important things to clarify is that the answer is not completely simple. On one hand, research doesn't support the idea that everybody who smokes cannabis will end up with severe permanent brain damage, but it also doesn't support the idea that using weed long term is completely

23:42 harmless either. What the evidence suggests is that the effects depend a lot on how often somebody uses it, how much they use, and how old they were when they started, and whether they have developed more dependent patterns of use, so using multiple time times a week for extended periods of time. Basically, the younger you start, the more frequently frequently you use, the greater the amount, the longer the period of usage, the greater the correlation with problems involving attention, learning, and working memory. Especially, cannabis affects brain systems specifically that are heavily involved in learning and memory. Specifically, this region called the hippo campus, which you guys probably know from

24:31 episodes in the past, helps us form and organized new memories. THHC in particular basically interacts with the endocannabinoid receptors in this region and disrupts the process of encoding information, meaning that smoking weed doesn't erase our memories or consuming we doesn't erase our memories. What it does is mean that the information never gets properly stored in the first place.

24:58 It just gets held in short term weak working memory. It never gets converted into short and then long term. This is why people who are high often lose track of conversation. They may struggle to hold on to new information. They may struggle to problem solve in the moment or get things done because working memory is so so short, the storage time is very There is not much storage time at all, so it's hard to cram everything in there.

25:24 When the influence of THHD and of weed in general is disrupting the consolidation of memories needed for short term and long term memory. In the long term, oh my god, I feel like I've said long term, short term memory, all those things a million times, but in the long term. Research from twenty twenty five that looked at a sample of over one thousand adults aged twenty two to thirty six found that heavy lifetime cannabis use is associated with lower brain activation during working memory tasks, and this association remains even in individuals who hadn't necessarily smoked recently or heavily recently. So it suggests that you know the impact and effects of weed on cognitive function even after you quit,

26:10 Even after you tape it down, can be long lasting. Despite reducing slowly over time, you may still feel that your brain is different. Our brain does have an amazing and incredible capacity to rewire and restore itself. So it's not to say like, if the damage is done, you may as well keep going, like you're never going to get a certain level of brain functioning back. But it is just like important to recognize that if you're sitting here being like I do notice differences, I don't know if I'm performing at my best, to know that, like, yeah, that's probably correct, there is danger to how your brain functions that you should be aware of. At the same time, there is some evidence to the contrary for when weed,

26:56 specifically medical cannabis is used for medis and all purposes. One of the largest ever longitudinal observational studies on the effect of medical cannabis on individuals followed participants over a two year period, and it assessed them before they started using, and then at three months, six months, twelve, fifteen, eighteen, and twenty four months. Even after a few times, even at the three month mark, patients actually performed better in particular cognitive tasks that required executive functioning. So we're seeing a different pattern. This is a direct quote from the researcher.

27:37 Her name is Stacy Ruber. She actually runs the Marijuana Investigations for Neuroscientific Discovery problem. That is a mouthful, and she does heaps of studies around this, But on this study she said, rather than getting worse, they're actually getting better because their physical symptoms are alleviated. That means they can think more clearly, and often they rely less on other substances like opioids that can disrupt thinking. This contrast with poor cognitive performance seen among heavy recreational marijuana users relative to non users. There you go. So basically, what this is saying is that when there's a lesser THC factor when marijuana is used medicinally, especially for chronic pain

28:25 or chronic illnesses that are otherwise clouding cognitive capacity, cognitive functioning does go up. So again you can't it's not all or nothing. It's not any any If you touch cannabis, you're immediately like twenty times dumber. No, it's a complex interaction with the body, with our emotions, with time, with psychology, let's turn our attention to motivation. Because of the impact of THC on reward processing and motivation, people often talk about cannabis as if it is automatically something that will turn you into this lazy, zombie like person. Of course, in the short term, cannabis use does and can reduce motivation, especially in someone who is actively high, like things require planning and sustained focus a lot less appealing in that state.

29:18 Everything that is, you know, the immediate reward is a lot more tantalizing, a lot more naturally attractive during those periods. But long term, the stereotype of like the lazy, unmotivated weed user seems to be incorrect, especially if you're not using every single day or every single week or all the time, Like you are kind of allowed to have a couple of moments where you aren't heavily motivated because you can sustain motivation elsewhere and in other times of your life. In fact, across newer studies, there is little consistent evidence that all cannabis users are generally less motivated than non users once you actually look carefully at the data.

29:59 Some studies in including a significant paper from twenty twenty three from researchers at the University of Cambridge and the University of Bath, found absolutely no major differences in self reported motivation, pleasure, or willingness to work for reward, especially in non dependent users. Now critical point here is self reported.

30:22 So obviously, you know, obviously there's like there's a level of trust that we have to believe that people know what motivation feels like for them. But a lot of participants, you know, didn't show decline or didn't show differences in their ability to delay pleasure, in their ability to work long term and steadily and consistently for goals. The other critical thing though is non dependent users. It is a different story when somebody is dependent. This is key. The more convincing concern is always and has always been around heavy use and cannabis use disorder. That is where the issue around motivation most likely comes up. But the thing is is that not everybody who uses cannabis is going to go on to become dependent. In fact, it isn't.

31:16 It's not unheard of, and it's definitely not rare, but it is not as risky and as common as most people who are opposed to any kind of cannabis usage in society, including for medicinal purposes, would make it seem one more thing to note here as well. Just like we talked about how long term cannabis use can impact cognitive cognitive skills and memory, but that those things can return and can be rebuilt. Same goes for motivation. So basically, it's not over like. It's not like you have it's not like you have physically permanently damaged your entire relationship to reward, like it can be reversed. Let's talk about one final impact that requires close examination, which is the impact of weed on relationships, especially when one person is

32:16 a frequent user and the other is not. I got a lot of messages about this because it creates a lot of complications, right, There's a lot of pressure to participate. There's different mental stages at different moments are at the same moment, so two people could be in a completely different mindset for connecting and for bonding in the same time period. There's concerns about somebody's usage when they do feel like they have a problem. There's resentment, there's fear.

32:46 There's also just plain annoyance that maybe you don't want somebody to be smoking all the time or be high all the time, and they just can't seem to give it up, and it's frustrating. There is a lot of potential for weed to shape the way we connect with people. In the short term, Cannabis can make us more social, and it can feel and it can make social moments feel easier for some people by lowering tension, by lowering those impulse barriers, by making things seem funnier, by creating shared memories and a shared sense of ease. That is the part of smoking with friends or with partners that can sometimes feel like a bonding opportunity. Conversations feel a lot looser, laughter comes more easily, ordinary moments are more

33:28 imaginative and enjoyable. But in a long term relationship sometimes it can feel like, well, why would you need that? Why do you need conversations to be easier? Shouldn't how conversations already be easy? Shouldn't I already make you feel safe and relaxed? Am I not entertaining enough? Like? Maybe you need this for other people, but why would you need this for me? Like I'm your person? And you can very quickly see how insecurity is valid here and can really sparkle those moments, especially if you aren't on the same page and there's not full truthfulness, and it is a fair concern from the loved one, especially if you've had you know, if they've had partners who've previously ignored them because of weed, previously made them feel insecure,

34:14 previously rejected them usage or not, they're coming into this relationship with a different need for openness and a different need to understand your motivations. Because being with somebody who smokes a lot of weed, even when they're asked not to, or being with somebody who maybe you as a weed smoker or somebody as a weed smoker, is with somebody who isn't and they don't understand the relationship you have with it, there's a lot of room for ambiguity. And when we have ambiguity that is not addressed, we have people come up with their own stories, and people come up with their own reasons for why somebody is participating somebody isn't. That can create a lot of resentment and a lot of fear around the relationship being at risk.

35:00 It all comes back to this core concern of presence. Relationships of any kind, friendships, family ties, romantic bonds depend on attention, depend on shared memory, responsiveness, and emotional availability. And because cannabis can affect short term memory, as we know, but also motivation and attention, it can sometimes interfere with these key aspects. Somebody may seem checked out, forgetful, hard to follow, less reliable, less emotionally engaged, and it's not necessarily because they don't care. It's because weed is changing how they present in that interaction, and if that becomes a pattern, other people, especially loved ones, start to feel a kind of distance that's actually pretty awkward to bring up.

35:45 Another issue is that cannabis can sometimes become part of avoidance in relationships. More broadly, if someone uses weed after stress, after moments of loneliness, conflict, boredom, emotional discomfort, it may help them feel better quickly, but it can also make them less likely to reach out to repair, explain themselves, or sit with difficult emotions alongside other people. And that is the foundation of deep relationships, romantic or not. The risk is not just that someone smokes and becomes distant, but that cannabis becomes their preferred way of managing feelings that would otherwise lead them to connect with somebody that they loved. Like again, it all comes down to this psychological dependency and psychological emotional management of discomfort. Listen, we

36:38 can't notot mention the positive side. Cannabis can improve intimacy, especially for people with chronic pain or a lot of stress and anxiety around sex. I've heard that from some people, you know, it's the only thing that allows them to really feel in the moment with somebody. It can also be bonding just because it's funny. You know, two of my best friends smoke weed and play video games together as a little treat every few months, And honestly, it sounds like a blast, and it sounds like something that really nurtures their relationship. And honestly, like, when I hear about it, I'm like, God, you guys, that sounds really really fun. But when should we be worried about it?

37:15 When does it flip over? I'd say you should be worried individually or in terms of your relationship with somebody when weed starts to change your behavior in a very clear, observable way to you, not observable to everybody else, to you, like you can notice it. That might mean you keep using more than you planned. You find yourself smoking earlier in the day, smoking your days. You said you wouldn't building your routine around when you can get high next.

37:47 One of the clearest signs is loss of control. And that's what all of these come down to. You feel like your life is oriented and centered around this substance and when you're going to consume it, how much? With who? When is the next available time or period where you can do it? And you no longer feel in control of your relationship to it, you kind of know deep down like I keep saying I could stop, I keep saying I don't need this, But every time I'm given the opportunity, I every time I'm I'm not given the opportunity, I just always find myself saying yes, I always find myself back here. You should also pay attention to when weed starts affecting you emotionally in a way that is more about reducing negative emotions rather than increasing only positive ones. Basically,

38:43 if getting high is no longer mainly about the pleasure aspect and about elevating experiences and making experiences better, and it's more about not wanting to feel a certain thing, not wanting to feel stressed, bored, awkward, or overwhelmed. That is a different relationship with the substance. That is a negative driven or a removal of negative feeling driven like relationship, where again we're experiencing negative reinforcement. We want to be experiencing positive reinforcement where we're like, oh, this is making things better for me, rather than it's meaning that things aren't getting worse. At that point, weed is not just something you enjoy. It's something that you lean on, and it's something that you specifically rely on to regulate inner

39:26 well being, whether you realize it or not. It is a relief oriented pattern of use. Another distinct warning sign is when weed starts affecting how clearly you think and function on a daily or regular basis. If your memory feels worse, if your concentration is wavering, or it's getting harder to stay motivated and follow through on not just ordinary responsibilities but things you really want to do that is worth noticing a acting on b These effects can creep in gradually, of course, which is partly white people miss them.

40:01 But over time, there will come a point where you will tip into this new mental state where you're like, I just am not the same person as I used to be, and I don't really like that. That is a clear sign that something needs to change and that you can change as well since you've noticed. And finally, a different kind of red flag, one that may not be as common, is when your body starts showing signs of dependency. If you feel irritable, anxious, restless, unable to sleep, your appetite is messed around or revolves around weed. That suggests that your system has adapted to regular use and you've developed a new kind of baseline, and that is indicative of this kind of chemical dependency alongside of psychological

40:46 dependency we've kind of been speaking about. It's really important at this stage that you cut down because physical dependency. I know people talk about weed as a gateway drug. Especially when you experience a physical dependency where you feel like you need to smoke so much, that is when you can start looking for other ways to get the same feeling. That is when you can start escalating usage to the point where it is really really psychologically disruptive.

41:18 Alongside physically disruptive. And look again, I'm not trying to villainize it at all. I would be a hypocrite if I did. But we also can't pretend it's harmless either. I think this is why the conversation around weed is so difficult, is because there's either people who want to say it only harms people, or there's people who want to say there are absolutely no issues with it and people just need to chill out. No, it's somewhere in the middle, which is that individuals are going to react differently to this substance. People do go on to develop really severe mental health conditions in response to smoking weed.

41:56 Psychosis from weed or from cannabis, Schizophrenia from the consumption of cannabis is real. It's not just like something that is used to scare people. There are certain individuals who have a personality, genetic, temperament vulnerability, psychological vulnerability that means their schizophrenic psychotic symptoms remain untriggered until they smoke weed, and that can genuinely that is life changing for them, and that is like, it's life changing. So be careful, be safe. Know if your family has a history of that, go slow, and just like take care of yourself. Like if again, I think it all comes down to this.

42:48 If this experience is elevating life for you and making if it's elevating already positive experiences, elevating time with your friends, elevating your creative practice, elevating your mood on a beautiful sunny day, go for it. But if you are honest with yourself and it's not doing those things, or if you're just doing it to keep up with a partner, with a friendship group, or you're just doing it to avoid other stuff that's going on, that is not a healthy state of mind to be in at the very minimum when consuming weed. And it's not a healthy place to be in terms of risk of dependency. So that's what I'm gonna That's what I'm gonna leave it at.

43:30 I do think we can be quite a spiritual positive thing, quite psychologically rewarding. But when it isn't that for you, it requires closer examination. And I hope that this episode has allowed you to do that, or allowed you to do that in regards to a relationship that you're in, or in regards to a friendship or somebody that you know who might also be struggling with whether weed is a good or bad choice for them or their relationship to it. I'm going to leave a couple of links in the description for you guys to check out further if you like have concerns or worries, but also if you just want to do some deeper research. I know we couldn't touch on everything today. Again, this is meant to be a bonus episode. It's now like almost an

44:10 hour long, so I'm sorry, but if you want a part two, let me know. If you've made it this far, leave leave a little comment down below let me know that you're still here. A reminder as well. You can always watch episodes of the podcast on Netflix if you prefer video content. You can follow us on Instagram at that Psychology podcast. That's where I got a lot of questions for today's episode from, and it's a great place to connect with me and other members of the podcast listener community. I don't know what else I need to tell you, guys. Yeah, just hope you enjoyed the episode, and if there's something I didn't cover, feel free to mention it down below. But until next time, be safe, be kind, be gentle to yourself. Definitely be safe and

44:52 we will talk very very soon.