The Rich Roll Podcast· Folge 971

The Handyman of High Art: Tom Sachs On Why Creativity Is The Enemy, Why Talent Is Overrated, & The Disciplines That Define A Life

Montag, 2. März 2026 · 1 h 47

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Tom Sachs is a contemporary artist and cultural provocateur known for turning branded consumer objects into high art.

This conversation explores the paradoxes that define Tom's art and his iconoclastic philosophy of living; why creativity is the enemy, the power of sympathetic magic, consumerism as secular religion, the infamous Barney's nativity scene that launched his career, and why persistence — not talent — is omnipotent.

And in doing so, Tom dismantles the intransigent myth that artists are a different species and makes a compelling case that we're all creative beings irrespective of what we do for a living.

Tom is equal parts Werner Herzog and blue-collar craftsman. Enjoy!

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