
The Talk Show With John Gruber
438: ‘2025 Year in Review’, With Rene Ritchie
Mittwoch, 31. Dezember 2025 · 2 h 42
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A look back at Apple’s 2025, with special guest Rene Ritchie.
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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good (podsearch.david-smith.org/shows/11).
Links:
• The classic Mac OS Appearance Manager and its support for (rather garish) themes:
• ATPM, August 2000: “GUI Junkie: Schemin’ and Themin’ (atpm.com/6.08/gui-junkie.shtml)” by Christopher Turner. Includes screenshots.
• Wikipedia: Appearance Manager (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appearance_Manager#Appea…).
• Luria Petrucci celebrates 20 years on YouTube (instagram.com/p/DSlT4P6Es6y).
• Steve Jobs on product people vs. sales/marketing people (youtube.com/watch?v=P4VBqTViEx4), back in the early 1990s.
• John Browett’s brief tenure running retail at Apple back in 2012 (daringfireball.net/2012/11/seriously_apple_is_…). His sacking was effectively a footnote in the announcement that Apple had parted with Scott Forstall (daringfireball.net/2012/10/forstall_out).
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.