Ay Por Favor: From Lenny to Lizzo

With Alexi Napola and Marisa Patton an iHeartRadio podcast.

Wait no, dalla, what are we talking about today?

My friend?

Why ahead you?

First of all, I missed you so much. I did on my last podcast with Peter. You know, it was a little different because like mother and son, it was really want to do that. It was it was, you know, very good. Oh well, thank you? Like did you get that? Yeah, I didn't do it.

I didn't even know you guys were going to do it together.

It was a great idea, it was perfect.

I know it was fun. It was fun, but I did miss you, and I know that you were busy renewing your vows with Miss America.

It's a very small part of the trip, and I wish you could have been with me. But you know, we couldn't both be away from filming the show so or else we'd be fired.

That is true, And you did ask the permission. For a long time ago, somebody actually wrote on my Instagram I thought Alexi was your best friend, wasn't she. Then I'm like, hi, put forward. I'm not even gonna answer. That's an moment, but you know what, I asked your agree with the fan because that is true. I feel like I've missed all your marriages. I've been there in spirit, but I think that that's what caused a little bit of a like between you and I last night because you were there.

Okay, well, you know what, I'm planning another one because this is like my birthday. I'm going to celebrate it every year whether anybody likes it or not, but I'm going to do it.

So you do, and then that's what counts. I've never mind doomen like does it? Don't you get nervous? Like, I don't know. I don't like that part. What I like is the honeymoon. So while you were renewing your vowels, I was redoing my honeymoon again with Todd, and this time going to Lake Como and to Milano. It was hot, it was sexy, and you know how I always say that the sex is a lot much better when you're like on vacation. And then, oh, yeah, you do you're a hotel I am you. I like it.

Do you think that's where the work comes from? Hotel?

It could be from now on it is going to be working for you for me, it is anyways, Well, tell us, tell us about it. Tell us. I think the viewers would love to hear because I'm they're not going to see that on the show.

So I don't know. I don't know if they will or not. I have no idea. I have I have some video I took.

Well, the cameras weren't there, but you weren't there.

But I have video.

You know, it's up for I had records. It's not always about the camera being there, you know, it's like the moment, living the moment.

Well, that was what it was all about, really, because at first they was like, why are we doing this? I'm like, because I want to be a princess and a castle and you're gonna just show up.

By the way, I loved your dress, Pussy bo. Yeah it was good. Yeah it was a big one. Yeah you could get away with all that. It looks ridiculous, but.

No, it wouldn't you have to if you slicked your hair all back, a little thing in the middle there and you just can't have hair.

And I don't know, I feel like, I'm.

Oh, thank you. So did I look like you're talk Coco.

No, I'm saying about myself, but I said, I'm you. I think it looks so and it's so beautiful, like you wear it so well. Thank you. You looked gorgeous in you're find English. It was obvious.

I was in English and we had this lady. She was Scottish. Justice of the piece. She forgot to brush her hair. I was like, what are you wearing when you brush?

You didn't have your Glas team there to fix her up a little bit? No, I didn't see.

And then her like dress was a little tattered and ripped them like she couldn't wear something like I would have just like borrowed, like I know, like I would just wear like you know, you know those the gown you were when you graduate, Like we're something that takes something cup and gown like a cop and minus the cap.

But no, she forgot to brush your hair.

She had the cap. Oh no, this one says irel India. You would have had to buy on this at Scotland, right.

I wanted to put a cap on her.

And I was like, listen, we maybe had an old castle, but your dress doesn't have to be as old as the castle.

It was a little, you know, but.

She was lovely. She tied our hands together. I didn't realize I said this. I was a little lit. I looked at my friends.

There were video on me.

I'm like, this is so kicky.

We were kidding having our vowels on they titles, and I'm like, this is so kiky. Anyway, it was beautiful, It was lovely, and the memories, the memories are everything, and I just want to keep making memories.

You know.

It's the best part of the trip.

Absolutely. Yeah. But I mean, if just for me, I would think I would get so stressed out. And I think so we're todd like Todd, and I don't like that part. But yeah, I love that you love to keep on doing this.

I'm doing it again. I'm not gonna do it next year, but maybe in two years.

Maybe we can do our next one together. I told you we need to do it together. Yeah, maybe my five year. You know, I'll do. But it has to be like in a really exotic place.

No, but you can't wait that long because I'm already gonna do it in an exotic place in two years.

You might as well just come to that want and do it. I have to wait. What if you die?

I don't have to wait. There's no way.

Make rules in life, baby, and live and be happy. I have a great plan for us.

Okay, you set everything up, lease, I just don't want it to be you know, stressful, you know, because way stressful. No, take care of it. I just want to show up. You tell me what the theme is and I'll be there. The we knew our bells because that is very special forward to doing that.

You know that every time I do stuff and people are like weird about it, then everybody starts doing the same thing.

Do I have it?

Everyone's going to start getting renewing vows and getting married again and again and again, and it's cool.

Why not? All right? Well, speaking of getting married again and engagement, how do you feel about mister Lennie. You know, we're here now to talk about the Housewives because I don't like to talk about my colleagues and you know, the girls we work with, or about our show. But I think that sometimes it's necessary. And it's not even about the show. It's about our friend, our friend Lisa as you know, that's going through something you know, and which a lot of women can relate to, and it's just something that has to be addressed.

Yeah, and by the way, if Lisa wasn't so vocal about it, we wouldn't be either, but we love her.

We want to support her, and this is.

Hard and we do. I mean, I think everyone is supporting her, and everyone is just in shock at the fact that Lenny announced his engagement and he actually posted while Lisa was in Europe celebrating her birthday. It wasn't the same day, but you know, we're really upset me with the fact that, like, for example, I saw Lisa's post with her and Jody I obviously neither were going to Europe. Actually we're trying to see each other while we were there, but we miss each other for a day.

So when I I got so excited for her when she posted her first picture like you know, Instagram official kind of like on her on her page with Jody, and it was such a beautiful picture. And you know, it's taken her a while, you know, to kind of move on and finally, you know, have like a really nice man in her life. She was ready to post, and I know what that feeling is like because she went in you know, which is a good time, you know, kind of make it like you know, Instagram official, whatever that may mean. But she did that and then comes this son of a of your ex husband. Yeah, that from under her wants to like upper. Oh, I'm going to up you. And like a day or two later post you know, his engagement with his u with his mistress.

I I thought to myself, just like you're saying, he's trying to un up or whatever whatever. But he was there already with the ring, so obviously he didn't have it FedEx because that ring looked enormous. So it was a plan he had. But he's been with Lisa fifteen years. He knows when her birthday is. He knew that was a shitty move.

Oh, absolutely. And he was also very aware that Lisa was going to Europe, you know, for her birthday.

Of course, because I have to coordinate the children and everything, right, well.

What do you mean the children. I don't think they coordinated anything, because they were both obviously coordinate very well because you know, their kids are are home, you know, luckily Lisa house. You know, her mom that's here, and her aunt and mom's here mm hmm.

And her aunt oh happy.

And so at least the kids are, you know, with them. But again I thought it was really poor taste. You know. Once again, you know, we know his style. It doesn't surprise me. I mean I was surprised, but just the poor taste that he would have actually doing this.

And she goes along with it. The girl goes along with it. The girlfriend. Doesn't she get embarrassed or have any shame?

Be like, you know what, maybe we don't know's just embarrassed. Man, if she would have been a woman that has any kind of shame, she would have never been caught up in this relationship and this scandal. So, I mean, no, she's she's not. You know, she's a twenty six, twenty seven year old girl that you know. It's just like going for the ride. And obviously it's very apparent, just like the whole situation how you know, how they've handled it is just so it hurt me so much, honestly, Like it was like it was me, you know, you know how I get with my friends. And I was I was like, wow, how can this happening to her?

Because you know, as a woman, you know, and you think, but why does he have to be so mean?

Why does it have to be so bad? Like why I never liked him? I always thought it was just not pleasant and not nice.

I mean, I know a lot of the comments were like, well, you're not even divorced yet, Like how can you ask you know, you can get engaged, you know, so there. I mean, I don't know at this point if they're legally divorced and have signed, but I know they entered a marital agreement whatever that may be. But it's like, you couldn't wait. He's not the first one to do it, by the way, because I felt like, I think like Mark Antony did that with his ex with the mom of his kids, with Dianada, and as soon as they signed the divorce the next day he married Jennifer Lopez.

So I mean, it's not the first time that is done, right, But I think that now because of you know, social media and you know, people like him, you know, want to post it. But what's his objective? Like what to continue to hurt LISTA? I mean, hasn't he done enough damage already?

I mean he could have done a later Graham. I don't know why I had to do it like there, and then he could have waited a little bit. Let least enjoy her birthday, her trip Bofalo.

But do you think he's a guy let her enjoy? I mean, he's tortured her. Do you think he wants to know anything?

But you know it's gonna see that when they grow up.

The kids, they're.

Not even when they grow up. I mean their kids are already, especially Logan is at an age already where he can see and for some other kids and friends, and you know how the parents are. I mean, nowadays, there's you know, we live in this world that everything is like out in the open, like there's no secrets, especially for us. You know that were public figures.

If you want it to be, it is well.

I mean, I don't think to have a choice. I mean I feel like, you know, Lisa and Lenny are public people already, you know, just like we are. So yes, he didn't have to post it, but I feel like everybody nowadays, that's the first thing they do. It's like they want to go on social media and announce to the world. And in this and in this case, it was very cynical. You know, this is who he is.

He's a cynical person.

It's an ugly divorce and it will continue to be ugly until one of them stops.

How did you feel about Lisa commenting on the engagement. I loved it. I thought you loved it. Brillion kind of reminded me of like Shakira, right, So Shakira congratulated Pique also like in her song to Felicito. So Shakierra after that happened, you know, and they announced their their separation and she found out about his mistress. She wrote the song to Felicito, and it was So it's kind of like Lisa and Shakira have like a lot of parallel, and we're going to be talking about that as well, because we are also going to talk about how how do you feel when the man already has like his house and the woman, like you know, moves into the house where he lived and shared with his ex wife and with the family. So, as a matter of fact,

I was reading these things and I was like, wow, Lisa has some parallel with Shakira, because you know, Shakira obviously is a musician, and she wrote the song to Felicito like congrats, but Lisa went ahead and wrote it on Instagram, you know, congrats. I thought to put my current husband. I want to put my current husband because I wouldn't even give him that title. I kind don't even want to give him that title.

The guy will it may it made it like a better dig mistress.

So good, it was, it was really good. We loved Lisa. But and then after and what about the mother in law with the comment Marina like saying that stuff like, oh, I'm so happy for you. My son like you. Finally that respects you and respects you and loves you.

She respects that bank account.

Yeah, well, first of all, nobody respects anybody here. I mean that respect. That's respect because this woman was married to another man. It is all like, it's just disgusting. It's disrespectful. You know, she's like an older person and a mom and a grandma to be saying this about you know, the mother. She never liked Lisa, and we know that. And then to saw sat a medio at the end because you know, she had her kids and of course she wanted to have grandkids and all that, but she never really liked Lisa. And you know what, she's never going to really like this replacement either, because that's how it is. That she just wants to have access to her son and she wants to have access to the money.

Yeah, and absolutely everyone's on the payroll. Yeah hmm, that's a sad life.

Sorry, I mean, I'm actually very happy for Lisa that she finally, you know, is got some closure and hopefully she'll be able to move on.

And yeah, I think the worst part of all of this is the way the you know, the divorce, the settlements.

Like everything. I mean, what are we doing here? We're sitting here talking about everybody's public life, Shakira and Pik and then all the other topics that we're going to talk about. And it's just like that's the world that we live in now. Everything is public, you know? And how much is too much? Because I you know, I mean we're in a reality show, so it's like our life we share. We we choose that, right.

We're very good at sharing, aren't we?

No, like an overshare, but you know what, it's taking me time, no, because I feel like us latin As we won't raise like that. It was like, you know, we talk about certain things. It's epoca. I mean, obviously we grew up in a totally different you know, era stage, yeah, and time, so it's very different. But you know, I mean, and not only is this guy you know, and and again I feel like some similarity with with Pik that not only were they cheating on their wives, but so quickly moved on and in this case Leney engage. But now these women are moving into the house because he's just dying for Lisa to get out of the house so he can bring in the new woman, which is already you know, attending and going to the house. And

I was reading that Piku also did the same thing. So they had like this beach house that when he first started tanning Shakira, Shakira moved into and as a matter of fact, when she had her babies, when she left the hospital, she went, you know into that house. So they lived there. They lived there as a family and her kids, and now.

It's it's his home.

Yeah, but do you think it's knew insane? I'm not saying absolutely, it's his home. Like, no, they didn't get it. I don't know it said but who are these women? Would you be okay with that?

I mean no, I wouldn't be okay with it at all. I'd be extremely devastated and upset. But what choice does she have? And again this one's with another twenty four year old? Is she twenty four years old?

Because my girlfriends, of course, these young girls that of course you know have dollar science and that's what they want. They want fame and they want money. And guess what they have get heart?

Yes, no heart, no soul. It's horrible.

Okay. So if you were Clara, that's Picka's girlfriend, okay, would you live in a house that your boyfriend shared with his ex like you? For example, like when you moved into Steve's house, if you would have known that Steve's lived there and had you know they had lived there as a couple and as a family, would you be so quickly you know, would you be good? And would you be so quick to move in?

I would be weird it out about it. It'd be really weird sleep in.

The same bed you boil. I can't. I wouldn't be able to woman that I couldn't even if like I was when it was dating somebody.

Throws are hustlers. Brow the hustlers. The two of them are twenty four year old hustlers.

I feel like Lisa's case, I feel like this is what this girl wanted. She wanted the castle. You know, she wanted the home.

And knew she wanted to shee you think.

She wants to be Lisa And then these men are so stupid that they fall for that, Like they fall for that. But you know what, Ian, you know because I can't so, but it's true because like what woman is going to like, what kind of woman is going to want to live in that same house? I mean one of the kids sleep in the same bed.

Well, she works with him, they work together.

Well we're talking about let you have.

Okay, no, we all know. The other one doesn't work. I don't even know what she does.

She for him, Yeah, yeah, she works for him too, glad of Yes, Clara Becau's girlfriend.

They work together. And that happens all the time. That work in.

Yeah, that's that's where it happens. That's where you spent the most amount of time. It's in your work, in your workplace. So that's why Mira and you know, they taught I have my eyes there because I mean, I I really don't go all the time or anything. But I'm really good with that. And I've never ever and even like in my past relationships, like when I've been like you know, like as a woman, you kind of know like this woman is going to be trouble and you kind of like, but you have to address it, you know, you have to address it. But sometimes you can't be like overconfident, and you know, and Shakira's case, I don't know, you know, I don't know if he ever she even thought or wondered that he was going

to look at a twenty four year old, you know, and have any kind of interest.

Well, I saw something on the daily mail that apparently there was like a zoom call and you could see the girl in the background.

Oh yeah.

She she had been out of town, Shakira, and she got home and everything fell apart when she found strawberry berry jam in the refrigerator. And she said, well, me and my boys don't eat strawberry jam. And that's how she knew.

The baby twenty four year old was any strawberry jam and also eating you know what.

Yeah, that's how she knew there was a mistress.

Strawberry jama.

Anything can be a clue. You cannot look over.

When you're in this situation, it's very easy to look back and say, oh, yeah, I should have known or whatever, you know, I.

Should No, well, I meane a strawberry jam, Like, who's gonna look and go, oh, he has a mistress?

Oh right. The thing is that who's going to think that the man you're in a relationship with is so disrespectful that he's going to bring the woman to your house.

Allegedly, people in their inner circle said they had an open relationship.

Okay about speaking of open relationships. Okay, what is speaking of open relationships? I feel like we're living in a world now that everybody has an open relationship. And what is an open relationship? You know, what kind of boundaries do you have? An open relationship to me might not be the same to you as an open relationship. I'm sure that me when I was married to Hermit, people thought we had an open relationship too. You know, you're relao and you could do whatever you want, and he does whatever he wants. But you know what the truth is, and nobody lives in your house, and nobody is inside, you know, inside your bedroom and inside your head, and then the conversations between you and your partner, and you

don't know that people are going to assume. Okay, and what is an open relationship?

He said it?

He said it, and I guess someone in his camp I don't know, like on his side, also confirmed that that was that.

But I don't know, well, speaking of that, I think that that. Lenny's mistress also said some comment or alluded to something like that in one of her comments, saying that they have an open relationship and that he, sir, do like whatever she wants. Yeah, exactly? Is that like a code word for like you can cheat or you have a free pass? I mean, what is that? Or any relationship is that you can be with other girls and I could be with other guys, or I can be with other girls and you could be with it.

I mean, what is it? So you know, it's very easy to say that.

I think it's an excuse and everyone's using no, no, we were open, so we could do whatever we wanted.

Wasn't cheating. She shouldn't be devastated. It's not a big deal.

I've been telling you for two years she knew and this and that, because that's that's what they say. And then again it's like how much you know? How much information do we have? And you know not everything you read is the truth? I mean, lead them who were going to know? But I felt like that was a very easy to say, Oh, we had an open relationship, so it's like she knew, So that's it's just kind of like for him not to look so bad because it doesn't strike me as Shakira being the woman that she's going to be in an open relationship. I mean, no, say you know, I mean because you never really know, you know at the end.

But I've never heard rumblings about anything about her except that she's super professional, she's amazing, Like I've never heard anything bad about her, like even like.

What are the benefits of being an open relationship, because that's the other thing. But yeah, but I also like, you don't.

Get especially especially in the public eye, who does that, Like you know you're going to get busted and it's gonna come up.

Those open relationships that mean, I'm very closed because you know what happens, somebody gets screwed, and in this case it was Shakira. Okay, I'm so open. I'm so open. I tried the other one and I liked her, so now.

You're fall in love.

That's what happens relationships, simple means.

But there I say, do not put a pineapple on your front doorstep?

No, I mean. And the other thing is is like, and we've discussed this before about you know, your friendships and your your and your friend group and your couple group, like who you go out with. That's the other thing besides work that we said that a lot of the cheating starts, you know, in your in your workplace, also in your friend group. You know, you go out of couples ye re Lajo and your sob friends and you you know, and it's like this friendship turns into that, you know many times.

That's what's happening now with Ariana ground Arianna Grande.

Yeah, I've never liked her. I've never liked something about her that I've never liked her. Even her music, Yeah, she has good vocals whatever, but okay make malacha. Yeah. So, according to The Daily Mail, Arianna Grande and her now a Strange husband Dalton Gomez allegedly went on Sev's with her now boyfriend Ethan Slater and he's now a strange wife Lily J sources say Arianna and Ethan we're so obvious about the relationship. If their Wicked castmates knew about the relationship. Since the news of the romance came out, Ethan felt for divorce from his wife. Lily directly told Page six, Arianna's the story. Really, she's not a girl's girl.

My family is damaged. She also added that she's focusing on raising her and Slater's baby and being a good mom.

And the guy looks at her brother, did you say, yes? They look alike.

She's never had she's never been known for having good taste because she's gone out with what Sean big? Sean? What was the other one that? Oh, Pete Davidson, I mean.

Her guys big? Who's big?

I don't know. Look him up, I don't know. I've heard of him. I forgot what he looks like, but nothing I want to look like fail all the.

Guys that she heayd David's is a little cute and I want to know what's going on with him. That everybody has something that's people right from the white down cut it.

But I can imagine that's the only.

Cute thing he has in his body, because not even his tattoos are cute. Tell them, oh my god.

It's magic wand it's all the ladies.

I guess you must have something, but don't want to.

He's got a wizard one again.

This is again everything we're talking about. It's like lo tempo. Maybe like I'm not going to say that this has never exist because obviously cheating and everything has happened since you know, humans are you know, we're born and started. But what I'm trying to say is that now everybody finds out about it, you just can't get away with it.

So I guess before kind of like they make it public. They make it public because that's what they did, are before anybody else outs them. Uh huh yeah, So I guess that's kind of smart. But do you think do you think she I see that she has a pattern? You know, in Ariana's case, she's always gone out with guys that are not available, what the hell, and not necessarily whether they're married or not, but when men are in relationships you need to respect that. And it's kind of like that's what she goes for. She has a pattern.

Nothing's ever going to work because she wants the thrill of the kale and then once you get it, there's nothing left. You're bored and it's onto the next one. So ladies, hold on to your men or your girlfriends because Ariana's on the list.

Speaking of that, like, so do you think that women they go after men that are not available, like for example, Lenny's mistress that went after Lenny that was a married man Clara that went after Pique, which was in a relationship and she was aware of it, and Arianna going after Ethan knowing that he was married, and you know, with the baby.

Do you think there's a special place in hell for them? I'm being oh, for sure. But do you think that these women are breaking up the family or do you think that there was already like trouble. I think it's like they're mens trade now. I think that it's a challenge.

Uh, you know, they're yeah, they want.

To I've because some people are a little messed up and they need attention, they need to win. They just we're all we're all wired so differently. We're all messed up in our own unique and special way. And you know, do you blame just like it or do.

You blame the guy like for example, like the guy or the girl. You think they're both they're both equally responsible.

They're both equally responsible.

I feel so too.

I think that you know, if you have a pattern, if that happens to you once, fine, you fell in love and you took you know, you've got in this situation and both of you decided you don't want to be with who you're with and your together. But if you're serial breaking up marriages, which we kind of heard some of that from Lisa about Lenny's girlfriend too, that she was involved with some other married men married.

Yeah, yeah, they have a pattern. They need to married married men might be easier, that might feel like an easier target.

There may be an easier target to loure into the sound. Yeah, but you know, to win over in the end, and and and you know, get their family, get.

These men to divorce the women and marry them right away or like get engaged. That's crazy, you know.

You know, so I think there's an idiot born every minute.

Yeah, you know, I think that. So in this case, for example, Arianna and Ethan were both married.

So in this case, this high school sweetheart, right and they just had a baby, so they've been.

Between the four of them would go out together as doubles. So and then you know they got to that's pretty twisted. I mean it happens a lot. Like I said, it's where you see it. I mean, that's gonna happen more because you have more contact with the person, so you know whether you like them or not, you know, just like a work, so you know more all of the story, be careful who you go out with, and be careful where you work, because you know that I see Steve as a brother, and I know that you see God as a brother too, and I know that that's never gonna no, no, never, it's never gonna happen. But with some other girls in the group and friends that stay away.

Oh yeah, hell yeah.

But you know what in my group, Steve's like zero interest in anybody in our group.

Oh I know, and saying, but what I'm saying is get like by the time that you get to our age, you know what I mean, it's like we've just seen it all. We've been it, We've lived so much, We've had so many like life experiences in Mason Cuento like they're not right now, I mean not in Masim going. You know, it's like Meloya said, which is a different story, right, but you know you have to keep your eyes open, my friend, and be careful who And this is like what I try to tell like the younger people, but they have to go through it themselves because me just like by looking at somebody, I'm like an X ray of them. I can tell you exactly how that's going to end up.

Miami is a breeding ground of just oh my.

God, they're just like everyone's so hungry of someone to take it. And the thing is like they don't even know why they want your guy. They just, you know what I mean, they don't even know your guy. Like, for all they know that you could be the biggest asslehole, but they they just want your guy because you have because you have a certain lifestyle. Lifestyle.

Yeah, but I want your lifetime. I want your asshole, right.

But I remember coming over and Lisa when she said the news about Lenny. I was like, I took it like it was mine, like you know what I mean, like it was him doing it to me. Yeah, Oh you know what, No, this is the best thing that happened to her. And I feel like a lot of times, you know, at least, I mean, I don't know this.

I can't speak for other women, but and I guess as they're going through it, you know, I'm sure like when Shakira was going through it, it was like horrible for her and she didn't wish that and all that. But now that she's on the other side, she's like, oh wow, yeah, you know, and she's like, Okay, I didn't sometimes you get so caught in the middle of it that you don't even realize it. But after you're like, oh shit, like this was actually good for me. Obviously, it's not good when you're going through because it's painful, but you know, after all that pain, you know, then you know there's there's pleasure and she's having a lot of fun, and so of these women that have gone through it.

Yeah, you know what, Lisa is very very lucky that in a town like Miami that is very hard to find somebody that she found somebody that's been through rough times with her, because it's not easy.

You know, this has been hard for her.

She talks about demonstrated, he's really demonstrated to her that he cares for her and he loves her.

He listens, he's patient because they're they're in the thick of it and it's not an easy divorce like we read it in the news. Imagine what goes on at home behind closed doors. The conversations have to happen and happen and constantly talk about it and talk about it, and he's still there.

So she's very lucky, very lucky.

She has that as a loving, sweet person and she deserves to be happy. And you know, sometimes when you're in these toxic relationships, you know, you don't even realize that that there's something better that you're in it, and that's not supposed to be like that, Like there's you know, it's not okay, like you do not have to get up with those things that's not okay perpect. She's a good man now and she's you know, seeing you know, something different and you know she's in a real relationship with somebody that's you know, that cares for her, entreats her with respect. Yes, and you know it's she already won. Yeah.

I had a very bad relationship, and every day that I wake up next to see him, I'm like, thank god. And I thought I wasn't going to be able to ever find anybody like that person I was with. But you know, I just didn't realize how toxic it was when I was in it. Like I knew it was bad, but I thought, Okay, relationships are hard.

You got to make it work. You gotta make it work. But it was really bad. And now that I'm with a normal, nice, saying, calm human being, he's very normal exactly, I'm like, wow.

Well, mine I've never been normal because I like crazy, but I've been very blessed, you know that even though they've had different things, but they've always been good.

Good people.

Yes, and that's what I like. I'm attracted to good people. You can have whatever they're fake thos or you know, whatever side, or you have secrets or whatever they may be. But they never harmed me. So with that being said, you know, I'm very you know, I'm very no, I'm very lucky because I see it the same way. You know, even though they didn't work, but you know, there there were good people and and and and it was you know, a good you know relationship for me, because a relationship there has to be love and respect. Because if Lenny would have had any love or respect or p K for Shakira, Lenny, for for Lisa and many other men that don't know for women, they would have never acted the way that they have with their spouses and with

the partners. So to me, that's like the end, because to me, love is everything, and when when you love a person, you.

Can fall out of love, but they handled things poorly. You can fall out of love, but you can never forget.

You can never forget that there was love, and I'm like that kind of woman, like I like to focus on the good and and in every relationship there's good. I mean there's bad also, but like focus on the good, especially when you have kids. It's like I have you know, you have these two beautiful kids. I mean, okay, fine, we didn't get along. We can we don't have to be again. And that's why there's divorced. But the way you handle things afterwards says a lot. And these two men that were talking about to me have shown zero love and respect for themselves either or for their families.

So I have no respect for any of them, truthfully. Have you been reading about Lizzo and how she denies allegations in her former dancers lawsuit. Three dancers have accused the Grammy winning singer of creating a hostile work environment during the Grammy winning Singer's Special tour. The law who filed in an LA Superior Court, claims that the dancers were exposed to an environment of sexual harassment and weight shain.

In one legend incident, a dancer claims Lizzo wanted to know why the dancer had gained weight. In another alleged incident, the dancers say Lizzo made them touch nut performers in a club in Amsterdam. Lizzo says she never sexually harassed the dancers, and as a victim of weight shaming herself, she would never do it to someone else now, Lizzo responded on her social media and this is why I hate social media. I mean, it's so powerful, but you can write and say whatever you want. I mean, this is all everything is like so public, like the entire world knows about it, and truthfully, we really don't have all the information. We can read one article on that thing.

This is why magazines and publicists are out of business, of course.

I mean, this is just crazy. This is like every second. So usually this is what Lizzo responded on her social media. Usually I choose not to respond to false allegations. But these are as unbelievable as they sound, and two outrageous to not be addressed. These sensationalized stories are coming from former employees who have already publicly admitted that they were told their behavior on tour was inappropriate and unprofessional. Lizo was essentially saying that the dancers are disgruntled former employees who were terminated. Do you think a male performer would be able to use that defense. Um, listen, Okay, first of all, let's take it back because there's like a lot of information. Yeah, okay, Like what are your thoughts

on that? Like, what do you think do you think of Lizo? I mean data, what do you think?

The minute I saw it in the news, I was like, hmm, I.

Believe these stories.

I believe them.

Oh you do. I don't. I believe them, and I there's fire, I mean, there could be something, But Marisol, we're living and own these times that anybody can go out and make these allegations and accuse people of everything. Okay, I mean it's all day long, you know, you know what they do it to Lizzo? I mean, are they going to do it to you know, to like the pool, to the pool guy that like came to your house and cleaned your pool. Then nobody knows. Nobody's going to accuse him of doing anything but somebody like Lizzo, you know, somebody like Well, but no one's.

Going to hear about it because we're not they're not famous. Well. I read up a lot about it, and there were actually quite a few people that had worked with her over the years that had similar complaints.

Okay, which wasn't the fact that she's rude and that she mistreats people and she's full of herself and she's.

A da going to tell you that she had an Oscar nominated filmmaker working on a documentary of hers and she quit because she said she was arrogant, self centered, unkind bullied her and wasn't.

The girls on our show and many people that we know, not me, you know what, but it's true, And you know what, but I don't care. I'll get another job. You just can't make, you know, a lawsuit against somebody because they thought she was rude in this and that and the other. That's what there was.

But you can't have all of a sudden, all these other people are saying the same thing.

And by the way, I went to that Banana show on Amsterdam, and I know exactly what they were talking about.

Let's start from that. Okay, the show in Amsterdam. First of all, Lizzo had a very poor decision when she decided that she was gonna go with her employees to a sex club. That's rule number one that you don't do because you're not gonna.

Go well, there you go, she doesn't have good.

A young girl, she doesn't have good judgment. Claudo Gano. I don't know where her manager was and where her other people.

You know, she's making people fondle titties and they're.

What makes anybody do because afraid. Oh yeah, right, Oh that's a good one.

She's afraid.

Oh yeah. Really, you know, Liza would have respected her more if she would have said she.

Was chanting a song and bullied her into doing and she's like, you know, I don't lose my job.

I'm just gonna go do it.

She wanted to touch it, you know, she wanted over. Yes, those days are over. First of all, I feel bad for Lizzle because she had a moment of bad judgment. She should have had a manager there. She should have had a team of people telling her.

You know what, maybe great, maybe her team caddles her and lets her do whatever she wants.

And you know what, after everybody had fun at the banana show, touching bananas and touching everything. You know what, I'm like a different kind of breed. You know, I don't like kiss and I mean I don't you know, It's like I grew up in a different time. It was like not everything was a lawsuit, Marisol. It's like here, it's like if you go with your employee. That's why again I'm saying, like Lizo messed up by taking her employees or you know, or being part of this because you don't go with your employees there because you know what your employees are going to use it against you.

Listen to listen.

Not everybody's nice, and maybe she's all about empowering people, but she's just breaking people down behind when she's not you know, on camera on a stage and giving her beautiful speeches behind the scenes, she's not a good process.

If you don't like your boss, you quit or you find your another job. You're not going to sue your boss for being mean to you. What is that?

You know what?

We have those options. Not everybody has the option to quit a job, Alexia. Some people really really need the money cannot quit a job. They just don't have that luxury.

Marasol, this sounds I don't have all the information, but I'm just tired of just people taking advantage of celebrities, taking advantage of you know, people that are well known, of public figures. Just what do they want? You know what they want. They don't want a better work environment. They want money. That's what they want. They want money, And I don't I have a problem with that. If you're really trying to make the work environment better, then you know, kudos to you, and I support that.

Listen, I was. I wasn't.

I wasn't. You know, don't go with your boss after a concert because you guys, you know, had a great time and go party with your boss.

To be with me and you'll want you to keep me company. Who knows? Who knows what the situation was, and they felt like I have to go. It was under duress, you.

Know, they want to keep their jobs. You know what I saw what's happening in this country.

I saw this video. Hap let me tell you something.

I saw a video of the three dancers and they were they were doing a live interview. Those girls were broken. Their little souls look broken. I saw it in their faces. That's they walked.

In there and another good actresses, but not that answer. Not actresses. Yeah whatever, It's kind of like the same thing because you're performing when you're on stage. So my thing is this, were they all over age? I don't know what were their ages. Let's stop buy that. I don't know.

I don't think they look like they're in the twenties.

Okay, so they're over age. And by the way, when somebody feels uncomfortable, and these are all women, like you said, it's not like they were thirteen or fourteen years old. Now, these are all in their twenties that are traveling the world and have been doing this for years already probably.

And they don't want to lose their gig.

Nobody. I'm telling you is if they walk into the bananas and to the section and they're not they don't want to be part of it. Oh they meet excuses, you can say, because I've been in situations in my life that have not liked and I have failed, and I've said, you know what, I don't want to be here. I mean, I don't know. They're women that nobody like me.

I've always stod my grands and you know, to lose their job.

I see, uh huh. They were afraid to lose their job. So then what they're going to do now, go tell and lizzle.

I follow, Well, that's what they're doing.

Her former creative director also came for He said he was proud of the dancers that he had the same abuse. I mean, there's a trail of people.

Abuse, But what kind of abuse are you changing? What kind of abuse?

They're saying that she's unkind and she bullies and she's a narcissist.

Okay, please, that's that's the word of the day. That's the word of the year. The narcissist. Lenny's a narcissist. All the men are narcissists. Now, narcissist. Actually he is, but I'm saying Lenny is, but I had never heard. But I'm just saying, like the words now that everybody is overusing is gas lighting. They were gaslighting, she was gaslighting me. He's a narcissist. It's like people are just throwing out all these words out there just to make it seem and they don't even know what they're saying.

I mean that this doesn't happen that often, so I mean when they're smoking their spine.

Are happening every second that we're talking about. The part that I think is bad is what I'm telling you, where Lizzo had bad judgment and going putting herself in that position, right, she should have her and her team better judgment than to put and go take your employees to that kind of a setting, an environment they didn't have to go because if right now, the girls at the beauty bar, I want to take them out for drinks, like they don't have to go, but you think they're gonna lose their job if they don't go with me to a sex club or to.

You're traveling, you're on tour. There's a camaraderie. It's a different thing, you know what I mean. Who knows the kind of thing she would say. Who knows the kind of stuff she was saying. Apparently she was abusive and they were scared. They want they didn't want to lose their job. Until everybody just kind of like was.

Well, I mean that's their story and they're going to stick to it.

All right, So we're gonna create it. We're gonna create a disagree on this one. I love talking with you, bro, It's always a pleasure. And like usual, I'm gonna leave this podcast and pick up my phone and call you because has to get chief Miando, because we always have so much to say.

All these topics today, all these topics today had a lot of those eye forward moments. It was soye bull forward. Yeah, I could just be saying I pull forward throughout the whole podcast.

That's our automatic response for everything. It was so much fun, go so fast.

That's why I have to call you so we keep doing it. I love you.

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