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Jon Washburn: AI, Consciousness & the Theory of Reality

Donnerstag, 6. August 2026 · 1 h 31

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Jon Wubbushi is one of the most unconventional thinkers we've spoken to.
After building companies, he became known for his AI-generated artworks before unexpectedly turning his attention to theoretical physics. Today he leads a research team working on what he believes is a new framework for understanding reality itself.
In this conversation we discuss creativity, AI, quantum mechanics, consciousness, religion, death, morality, and why Jon believes the next decade could fundamentally change humanity.
Whether you agree with his conclusions or not, it's a fascinating conversation about some of the biggest questions we can ask.
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Introduction
Why Jon keeps changing careers
Becoming addicted to flow
From entrepreneur to AI artist
The trilogy of Jon's early AI artworks
The question that led him into theoretical physics
Quantum mechanics and the double slit experiment explained
"We may have discovered how reality works"
Information, consciousness and the foundations of reality
Souls, consciousness and reincarnation
Entering the world of science after becoming an artist
Could this discovery change humanity?
Spirituality, religion and why society feels more divided
AI as a reflection of humanity
Does the universe have an objective morality?
What happens after death?
Is God real?
Are all religions describing the same thing?
Why Jon stopped calling himself a Christian
Aliens, consciousness and advanced civilizations
Is Elon Musk human?
Time travel, meditation and the Monroe Institute
Are we living in a simulation?
Jon's biggest lesson about life
Why suffering gives life meaning
The inspiration behind Jon's newest body of work
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