HELEN LEWIS: A heterodox update from TERF island

Helen Lewis (The Atlantic columnist, BBC podcaster, pop culture decoder) has become a darling of the heterodox podcasting community (and this podcast; catch my previous Wild chat with her about THAT GQ interview with Jordan Peterson here (podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/helen-lewis-on-s…)), and, relatedly, a pet target of the extreme Right and Left’s ongoing cancelling zeal.

In this interview, I invite Helen to talk through several very online eruptions that are crucial for fathoming what the hell is going on in the world today. We cover the feminist-trans wars playing out on “TERF Island”; why Kara Swisher has fallen out with Elon Musk and why the Left failed the October 7 “Hamas test”. Mostly this is a conversation about the role of discerning dialogue when the extreme Left and Right are dominating the online arena.

SHOW NOTES
• Listen to my previous Wild chat with Helen (podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/helen-lewis-on-s…)
• Here’s the episode I did with Hannah Barnes (podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/hannah-barnes-we…)about the trans debate in the UK
• Check out Helen’s brilliant The Bluestocking Substack (google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=…)
• Get hold of her most recent book, the bestseller bestseller Difficult Women, A History of Feminism in 11 Fights (amzn.to/3VKoH7d)
• Check out her Blocked and Reported episode here (podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/blocked-and-repo…)
• We reference a few of Helen’s recent The Atlantic columns: The Progressives Who Flunked the Hamas Test (theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/hamas-po…); Is Kara Swisher Tearing Down Tech Billionaires? (theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/04/kara-…) and Why I’ll Keep Saying “Pregnant Women” (theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/pregnant…)

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