John Legend Talks New Album "Muse" with Pharrell, Clipse, "Ordinary People," and Donald Trump Feud

The last time John Legend was in the studio was ten years ago. He and Chrissy had welcomed their first child just a few months earlier, and it was just a few weeks before the presidential election and we were collectively scoffing at the notion that Trump could win. A decade later, John and Chrissy are now parents of four, and Trump… well, we all know what happened there.

We jump straight back in to discuss his new album Muse, a cinematic collaboration with Pharrell Williams inspired by Nina Simone, a “black James Bond” vibe, and the complicated nature of love. John takes us inside their creative process in Paris — at the LVMH headquarters where Pharrell is creative director — the stories behind “Daylight,” “Under the Bridge,” and “Get Back.” Plus, the story behind his classic hit “Ordinary People,” his early days with Kanye West, playing on Lauryn Hill’s “Everything Is Everything” while still in college, and writing his first musical, Imitation of Life.

The EGOT winner also opens up about his complicated relationship with his mother, forgiveness, and how his childhood shaped the person he is today. We get into his lifelong commitment to activism, why speaking out against Trump has led to increased security, conspiracy theories, the upcoming midterms, and, of course, the infamous Twitter exchange between Chrissy Teigen and Donald Trump.

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