Winnie The Pooh: Blood And Honey 2

We tackle Winnie-the-Pooh: Blood and Honey 2 thanks to a patron request, expecting another cheap public-domain cash grab after the poorly reviewed first film, but we’re surprised by the improved budget, production value, and approach.

We discuss how the sequel goes meta by treating the first movie as a film-within-the-film, allowing recasts and retcons, and how the movie leans into extreme, Terrifier-style gore with a huge rave massacre and creative kills.

We break down the updated creature designs—especially Owl as a mastermind and Tigger’s Freddy-inspired vibe—plus Christopher Robin’s added backstory involving a mad scientist, kidnapped children, and Pooh revealed as his brother Billy. We also cover the ending, mid-credits tease of Pooh and Piglet returning, and the franchise’s planned crossover “cinematic universe.”

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Winnie the Pooh: Blood & Honey 2 (2024)

Episode 495, 2 Guys and a Chainsaw Horror Movie Review Podcast

Todd: Hello and welcome to another episode of Two Guys and a Chainsaw. I’m Todd.

Craig: And I’m Craig.

Todd: Well, this actually came as a request from one of our patrons, Jessica. And it’s a good thing she did request this, because I don’t think you and I would have voluntarily done this movie. Who knows? We probably would have gotten to it.

We’ve done a lot of strange things on this. But I think you and I bo- well, I don’t know. I’m just gonna speak for me right now, is I have not been at all interested in this twisted childhood universe of- Mm-hmm … public domain, you know, pre-Disney character childhood favorites like Winnie the Pooh and Bambi and Pinocchio and all that stuff they’re making horror movies of.

Because of the first of these, Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey, I didn’t watch it, but I saw screenshots from it and I read the reviews and it sounded like it was absolute garbage. That’s what everybody said about it, and sounded like a quick cash grab. And it was produced by a guy who does these just quickie direct-to-video movies for, like, $10,000.

You know, they shoot them in like 5 to 10 days and put them on the shelves. Which, don’t get me wrong, this is a very respectful thing to do.

Craig: Yeah,

Todd: sure. It’s fine. It, it makes money and it has an audience, and I actually enjoy a lot of those films. So I’m not knocking the idea that you will take something that’s coming out, make a cheap copy of it, or do something quirky and clever like this, but not put m- many resources into it, you know, and throw it out there not expecting it to do much, but at least hoping to make some money off of it.

That’s fine, but, uh, it’s not typically the kind of thing I want to sit down and watch usually. So I, I didn’t give it this much credit at all. And then to see that they made a sequel of it, I was like, “Oh my God, of course.” You know? Just the, the weirdness of it gave them… I think that movie had $50,000 budget and it grossed over 7 million.

This movie had a $500,000 budget and grossed about 7 million worldwide. So you know, there’s an audience for it. But the first one is not well reviewed. It’s like 3% on Rotten Tomatoes. This one is closer to 50, and I have to say, I was actually surprised. This wasn’t what I was expecting. I guess the more money that went into it and a few talented people came on board to up things quite a bit.

And it wasn’t what I expected, let’s just put it that way. I don’t think it bears much resemblance to the original movie at all. So, you know, thanks Jessica for the request, and I’m looking forward to chatting about this with Craig. This seems like one of those movies you might have had on in the background.

Craig: No, because I could almost repeat verbatim what you just said. The first one really turned me off. Now, I was initially kind of interested when they first announced the first Blood and Honey, and you know, the story was, it was because A.A. Milne’s original characters from the Winnie-the-Pooh, the first Winnie-the-Pooh book had entered public domain, and they were gonna make a horror movie out of it.

And I thought, “Well, that’s really stupid,” but-

Todd: Could be fun …

Craig: it could be a lot of fun. Yeah. Right. And so I was kind of excited about it, and, you know, anything that I would see about it, it didn’t sound particularly promising once it was actually in production, and I was seeing stills and the, the guys just looked like any big slasher guy in a relatively inexpensive rubber mask.

Like it- Yeah … it didn’t look good. But I thought I’d give it a chance anyway, and it, you know, it opened in a fairly promising fashion in the same way that this one does with an animated sequence that gives the background. And just for any of you who haven’t seen the films and you’re interested in the background, the first movie, the background is that Christopher Robin didn’t meet, you know, fuzzy stuffed animal type things in the Hundred Acre Woods.

He actually met these, like, human animal hybrids or, like, anthropomorphized animals and, and befriended them and took care of them. But then when he went off to college, he abandoned them and, and there was nobody to feed them, so they starved through a harsh winter and ate Eeyore.

Which traumatized them, and they vowed never to speak again. And in the first movie, Christopher Robin wants… Like, he gets engaged and he wants to take his fiancee to meet his friends in the woods. So- … he, he takes her there and they savagely murder her and, like, I think torture him and stuff. Now, I only know beyond the animated part what happened really, because I started watching it once and I got to where the animals…

Oh, and the animals in that movie also, like, vowed to never speak. So in that movie, the first movie apparently I think, Pooh says one thing maybe, but they really don’t speak ’cause they vowed not to. I got through the animated sequence, which was promising, but then just the first five to 10 minutes after that were so bad that I turned it off and I never went back to it.

And like you, that turned me off from the rest of them. I really had not much interest, even though looking at them from afar, they seemed to be getting better, at least in terms of production quality, probably due to budget. And some of them started sounding interesting. Like, I Had heard some good things about the Bambi one.

I think it’s called, like, Bambi: The Reckoning or something like that. Right. And I had seen a couple of clips from it. It’s, it’s big time CGI, but it looks maybe kind of interesting. And then the next one that’s coming out, Pinocchio Unstrung-

Todd: Which, a great title by the way …

Craig: it is really good, has Robert Englund in it.

Todd: It does, really?

Craig: Yeah. Robert Englund is Jiminy Cricket, and- Another guy, big guy in, in horror is playing Geppetto. I can’t think of him, but he’s… If you look it up right quick, Richard something maybe. You would recognize him immediately because he’s been a menacing, scary guy in a million things that we’ve reviewed.

So-

Todd: Mm-hmm …

Craig: I mean, just the attachment of those folks gives me hope that maybe they’re getting better. Okay, that was my perspective going into this. This request came at least a month ago. I have no idea when this will actually get posted, but in our timeline, this request came at least a month ago, and I think we were kind of like subtly putting it off.

And eventually I was like, “We should just, we should just do it.” I wasn’t particularly looking forward to it going in, but I was surprised too. Mm-hmm. It wasn’t what I expected either, and I would say that while I’m not gonna give it a glowing review, I’m glad I saw it. Like, I genuinely am glad I saw it, and it’s not bad.

Todd: Right. Well-

Craig: I, I didn’t not like it.

Todd: You did not like it. I mean, production …