American Alchemy with Jesse Michels

16 Alien Bodies Crashed HERE… And We Just Found Evidence

Dienstag, 29. September 2026 · 1 h 57

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Our American Alchemists this week are Scott and Suzanne Ramsey, the husband-and-wife research team who have spent decades chasing the truth behind the Aztec, New Mexico UFO crash.

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Scott and Suzanne have interviewed dozens of firsthand witnesses, tracked down FBI files, and traced a decades-long smear campaign that got Aztec branded a "hoax" — even though it may be one of the most thoroughly documented UFO crash retrievals on record. In this episode, we take the Ramseys' research directly to Hart Canyon, where witnesses described a 100-foot craft, 16 alien bodies, and a Baptist minister called in to pray over the dead. We dig into the FBI documents, the CIA-linked debunker who tried to bury the story, and the string of researchers who died just as they got close to the truth.

Learn more about Scott and Suzanne Ramsey's research and get their new book, It Came to Earth at Aztec, New Mexico Revealed: The Recovery of a UFO - theaztecincident.com

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TIMESTAMPS
- Introduction

- Meet the Ramseys

- How Scott found the case

- Arriving in Aztec

- Why the town stayed quiet

- How many witnesses

- March 24, 1948: Cuba, New Mexico

- Valentine Archuleta sees it come down

- Doug Noland and the saucer on the mesa

- More witnesses arrive

- Inside the craft

- Sponsors (Dose)

- The bodies

- Solon Brown, Baptist minister

- A helicopter in 1948

- The military takes the mesa

- Scientists study the craft

- Moving the craft off the mesa

- Erasing the retrieval team

- Fred Reed re-landscapes the site

- The marble found at the site

- Part two: Frank Scully

- J.P. Cahn

- Silas Newton

- Leo Gebauer's FBI file

- The 1953 fraud case

- What if they were set up

- George Koehler and the Denver lecture

- Newton as Scientist X

- Sponsors (Quo)

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- John Torrence Tate

- The nine scientists

- The 4602d and UFOB reports

- Taken to Wright Field

- Could radar have downed it

- Jake Barber on microwave weapons

- The Hottel Memo

- Bill Steinman

- Chris Evans and Alice Scully

- A visitor at the crash site

- Cattle mutilations

- Testing the marble

- The break-in

- Credits and the Ramseys' book

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