I Confront The Secretary of Energy On UFOs

Our American Alchemist this week is John S. Herrington, Ronald Reagan's Secretary of Energy, who ran America's nuclear weapons complex at the height of the Cold War.

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John joined Reagan as a volunteer advance man in the 1960s. He later served as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, head of White House personnel, and Secretary of Energy from 1985 to 1989. In this episode, John takes us inside Reagan's cabinet: the stealth fighter he found hidden in his own budget, the Strategic Defense Initiative and Edward Teller's nuclear-powered space laser, Reagan's "throw deep" approval of the Superconducting Super Collider, and the secret Taiwanese nuclear weapons program the U.S. shut down. He also takes on the UFO question. He says the Navy's UAP videos are real, but calls a Reagan-era alien story "total B.S." and challenges David Grusch and others to show hard evidence.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 - Introduction

1:28 - Brent Friedman's Story

4:26 - Interview Preview

6:28 - Sponsors (Zocdoc)

8:14 - Meeting Ronald Reagan

10:11 - Reagan and SDI Opposition

11:21 - Reagan's Diaries and Speeches

13:02 - Strategic Defense Initiative Explained

15:48 - Edward Teller and Excalibur

17:33 - Green Fireballs Document

18:47 - UFOs, Navy Videos and Faith

21:28 - Herrington Denies Brent's Story

24:49 - The Greenbrier Bunker

27:26 - Brent Friedman Responds

29:43 - The 1981 Veranda Conversation

33:04 - Underground Facilities in West Virginia

35:13 - Polygraph and Money Questions

36:12 - Why Brent Went Public

39:01 - David Grusch

41:36 - The Politico Journalist

44:32 - UFOs at Nuclear Sites

46:09 - Harald Malmgren's UFO Debris

49:06 - A Secret Budget Item

49:23 - Sponsors (Qualia)

50:59 - F-117 and Skunk Works

52:30 - UFOs as Spy Plane Cover

53:15 - Oak Ridge Document

53:53 - Garry Nolan's Ubatuba Sample

56:57 - Reagan's 1974 UFO Sighting

58:26 - Otherworldly or Man-Made

59:23 - Battle of Los Angeles and Secrecy

1:00:34 - AI and Deepfakes

1:01:26 - Stratton, Lacatski and Lazar

1:03:31 - UFOs at Pantex and Fukushima

1:05:07 - Bobby Ray Inman

1:06:06 - UFOs and the Ocean Floor

1:07:26 - CIA's Hollywood Liaison

1:09:00 - Limits on Elected Leaders

1:10:32 - Exotic Propulsion and Submarines

1:11:28 - Nuclear Airplanes and Project Orion

1:12:43 - Nuclear Tests and Roswell

1:13:37 - The Question of Evidence

1:15:37 - Palomar Observatory Transients

1:17:13 - Parapsychology and Precognition

1:18:30 - Trump and Disclosure

1:20:25 - Cold Fusion

1:21:26 - Spies at the Energy Department

1:22:38 - PROMIS Software and Bill Richardson

1:24:09 - Genesis Mission and Underfunded Programs

1:25:57 - Public Fear of Nuclear Power

1:27:10 - SAIC and Bobby Ray Inman

1:29:01 - High-Energy Physics and UFOs

1:31:01 - Marco Rubio on UAP

1:32:54 - Atomic Energy Act and Rickover

1:35:13 - Seafloor Recovery and Puthoff's Hypothesis

1:37:55 - The CIA, Gaffney and Casey

1:40:17 - Closing and Reagan Keepsakes

1:42:45 - Brent on the Hazing Theory

1:44:18 - DOE Roswell Hazing Ritual

1:47:43 - Consciousness and Initiation

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