Bonus Episode: Tribute to Sick of it All’s Lou Koller, Plus More John Frusciante and River Phoenix

Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, just to touch to get you through.

Yeah me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast.

Welcome to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after Party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we pay tribute to one of the greatest to ever do it, Sick of.

It All's Lou Collar, and we dive deeper.

Into the theories surrounding River Phoenix's death and Red Hat Chili Pepper's guitarist John Fruchiante's alleged involvement. Plus, we are previewing next week's episode on Smashing Pumpkins, Going to get into your emails, comments, dms, and as always a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried, Disgrace Sanders, where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling to someone else.

All right, disc goes, Let's get into it.

On a Saturday afternoon back in nineteen eighty nine, when I was just fifteen years old, I left my house in central Massachusetts, jumped in my buddy rich Hogue's car, and headed out to Boston to go to a hardcore matinee. I'm not sure where I told my mother I was going to, but I most certainly did not tell her that I was going into the city with some seniors to see a band called Sick of It All. And that was the beauty of hardcore matinees back in the day, at least for me anyway. The city was only an hour away, max was an far drive. The shows got out around five PM, so I could leave my house in the morning and be back by dinner and my mother would be none the wiser. My mother hated the music I listened to growing up. She blamed most of

my juvenile delinquency on the music that I listened to. She blamed the rest of my you know, many faults on my dad.

And he was a.

Musician, so Basically, she blamed everything on music. There's no way in hell she would have approved of me liking a band or going to see a band in Boston, no less a band called Sick of It All, but I did.

I first heard Sick.

Of It All on the nineteen eighty eight Revelation Records New York City hardcore comp The Way It Is, And right around that time, in nineteen eighty eight eighty seven actually might have been earlier, there was a seven inch that was released by Sick of it All. Got to me after the comp, even though it was probably recorded beforehand.

And not long after that, in eighty nine, Sick of It All they were They were releasing their first full length album, Blow Sweat and No Tears, and they were coming to Boston to celebrate with an all ages matinee, and there was nothing that was going to keep me from seeing my new favorite band.

Now.

At this time, Sick of It All were like Metallica or ac DC to me, I had only been to a few punk shows at this point. I'd never been to a show in Boston before, only local shows around my hometown. Those are the only ones I went to, and those had like local bands playing at them guys I knew basically many I didn't, but you know, it was friendlier as my point less, less foreign Going to see Sick of it All to me in nineteen eighty nine, therefore, was the same as going to see Ozzy Osbourne. I made no distinction in my mind hardcore DIY punk.

None of that really meant anything to me. Yet.

This is just a band whose songs I got my hands on and I loved and they made me want to break shit, and for some reason, tickets to see them only costs about five bucks. But I wasn't really concerned with that. The culture, the hardcore scene that Sick of it All was connected to it meant little to me at this point. So all this you can imagine my surprise some you know, kind of dumb metal head at this show here, you know, getting into punk and hardcore for the first time, and I show up at this club called bun Rattis with my friends on a Saturday afternoon. First of all, what the fuck even is a bun Ratty?

I don't know.

It was a tiny little club at the time, way out in Allston, which was you know, I wasn't really hanging around in Allston at the time. If I went into the city to visit my dad or whatever, I was in like Harvard Square maybe ken Moore Square. Allston's a little further out, and this club was tiny, held about one hundred and fifty people. When we got there early.

There was Sick of All right there. I recognized them from their seven inch. There they were in the flesh, loading in their own equipment, lugging their own amps and instruments, and even stranger backslapping and hanging out with the kids who had already arrived, kids just like me. I was shocked at the lack of separation between the band and their fans. I'd been to concerts before. I'd been to shows the Worcester Centrum, local shows, like I said, with like you know again, local bands, not bands that I was a fan of, necessarily that I would be kind of like starstruck around. Not bands who were on album covers in seven inches or whatever that I obsessed over in my room and just stared at the at the

pictures of it like I did with Sick of It All. And here they were right there at the club, carrying their own shit and talking to their fans and in the middle of it all was their singer, charismatic singer, I should say, Lou Caller, this guy straight out of like a you know, now I see, you know when I saw Goodfellas for the first time, which wasn't much longer after this point. It might even been that winter or that summer or something. I can't remember when Goodfellas come out nineteen ninety, so it was a little after this, this is eight nine. I remember distinctly thinking that de Niro reminded me of the guys in Sick of It All, and these guys were larger than life. And here was the singer. We show up at this club and he's

talking to all of us kids there like we're regular people, not starstruck wannabes, which of course nobody really was but me. But the way that Lou Caller graciously interacted with Sick of it All fans in that moment, right then, right there, at that show, it changed me. It imbued me with a sense of humility and a love for the hardcore scene and its culture of unity that I carry to this day. Rock Star bullshit was not allowed. Okay, it was not only not allowed, it wasn't tolerated in any way hardcore Sick of it All.

I would later find out it.

Was all about this sort of US versus them mentality, and we were united against the monolith of them, Okay, And you could hear all of that in Sick of It All music in their lyrics, and I suppose that's what I was responding to when I think about it now, it's what drew me to the band. And then the cherry on top was when I finally got there to see them live. Here was the singer of that band acting off stage in a way that directly mirrored the themes that he sang about on stage. This was completely novel to me at the time. Lou Caller lived hardcore, and Lou died a couple of weeks ago on July twenty fourth, twenty twenty six, from a long battle with cancer.

The hardcore scene that Lou leaves behind, the scene that he helped build, the scene he helped spread from New York to Boston to practically every corner of the world, is hurting right now. Lou was the real deal, one of the good guys. He never stopped making great music, never stopped touring, until he ran into this horrible horrible disease.

Sikhodol's around for nearly fourty years. Lou was famous not just for being in the band, but famous for his support of younger bands in the scene, for helping out, for taking them on tour. And my band back in the day benefited from his and his bandmate's generosity. We're lucky enough to open for Sick of it All for a small East Coast tour in nineteen ninety seven. On that tour, I learned a lot. I learned a lot about being a touring musician. I learned a lot about how to carry myself. I learned a lot about how to maintain my cool on the road away from home.

And you know, that's not unusual if you're open, and you're curious, and you're smart, and you know, when you're traveling with with bands who were at the time Sick of it All was they were giants, really, I mean they were just they were seasoned veterans and they.

Couldn't have been cool.

That was it. They couldn't have been cooler to us. I've toured with other bigger names actually, and I'm not going to mention them now, but complete assholes really and just just total dicks and sick of it all. Was not that at all. They were the complete opposite of that. I learned a lot too much to mention, but one thing I do remember a funny thing here that I learned from from Lou. In particular, I remember talking to him one night, I believe it was in Alabama, and we were sitting around, and you know, you do these tours and these you play these punk rock clubs and you either get like a buyout, or they give you cash to go buy dinner, or you know, they'll buy you pizza.

It's always pizza, pizza, pizza, pizza.

And I remember Lou explaining to me that what I was eating at that moment was not pizza, that pizza was only something that could be made in New York City or in Italy. And not only did he not eat pizza in any other locale other than New York City or in Italy, he didn't even consider what people call pizza outside of the Five Borrows or Italy pizza, which I thought was very funny and I never forgot about that. Things have changed a little since this is the nineties. But he did have a point. He did have a point. I didn't know Lou Caller well, and I don't want to give the impression that I did, But every interaction that I had with him made me feel better as a person, and it's hard to say that.

Like I mentioned earlier about other musical heroes of mine that I've come in contact with, a few years ago, I opened my Instagram app to a notification from Lou and he'd made a video out of nowhere. I hadn't been in touch with Lou since that tour back in ninety seven. In the video that Lou had made, he was holding my book and telling his followers to go check it out.

I was fucking blown away.

Just a totally random act of generosity that for Lou Caller wasn't random at all.

It was just the way he was, the way he lived.

My heart goes out to loose bandmates, his brother Pete, to Melissa Aurelia, to his friends, to the Sick of it All fan for all all of you who who loved the band and who knew Lou and are hurt, and I'm sending you PMA. Sending PMA to all you guys, for those of you who have never heard Sick of It All and are curious, go check out their debut album, their debut full length. I should say, Blood, Sweat, and No Tears start there and then listen to everything.

It's great. Check out the tributes that are.

Going on online, everybody from you know, quicksand drop Kick Murphy's and just it's fantastic to see Lou honored this way.

And you know, if you.

Want to honor Lou, whip out a random act of generosity today for somebody who's not expecting it. Put a little more PMA into the world, a little more unity, all right, a little more love.

Rip Lou.

A couple of years ago, Sick of it All performed at Coney Island a screening for the movie The Warriors, and they did so in these awesome warrior you remember the movie Warriors. The Warriors game wore those vests. Sick of it All have those vests made, and that's what they performed. And Warriors had nothing to do with hardcore or punk rock really, but they're such a part of that that movie is such a part of New York culture.

It's a surprise that Sick of it All was so into it. And I loved that tribute. I thought that was fun. That was maybe ten years ago something like that, maybe a little longer, but it got me thinking about great New York movies. And this whole thing has me thinking about great New York music. And in the exclusive section of this after party, Zeth and I are going to be giving you our recommendations, our favorite obscure New York films and albums, and if we do our jobs right, you won't immediately recognize these recommendations. I want to keep it underground oriented, so it's still relative to sick of it All. Zeth is going to handle the film recommendations.

I'm going to handle the music recommendations, and I promise you we won't be talking about the Ramones and taxi driver.

We're going to go deeper than that.

Our New York underground dirty recks are coming up in the excusive section of this after party. But you've got to be an all access member, you know the drill. Go to sign up at disgracelainpod dot com and join me and Zeth and your fellow discos in this conversation and get additional exclusive content like this plus ad free listening.

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You may have heard our John Frusciante, Red Hot Shape Peppis John Fruchiante episode is available for you, creating quite the story on the internet, So we're going to get into that later. Coming out right after this after party is our rewind episode on another controversial subject of ours, Blondie's Debbie Harry and Ted Bundy. That'll be available for you this weekend, and then next week we're gonna come at you with our Smashing Pumpkins episode and this whole bit about Billy Corgan and the shape shifter to shape shifters. Actually, I don't know if you've heard this story. It's a crazy one. Nobody tells it better than Billy on The Howard Stern Show. So if you want to do a little pregame action, you can check that out. But we're

coming at you with our take on Smashing Pumpkins, and look, I love Smashing Pumpkins, and I like Billy Billy Corgan as a guy. I know people can't stand him, namely other musicians, and he takes a lot of heat for a lot of different reasons. When I recorded this episode, I was thinking, God, if he ever hears this, he's gonna fucking hate me.

But I don't like.

I just want to be on record before you hear the episode, before you listen to it. I really really love Smashing Pumpkins. I've seen them live. I saw them with the Chili Peppers. Actually, I saw them open up for the Chili Peppers. I've mentioned this before they went on second Chili Peppers headline. Pearl Jam went on first the Rocky Point Amusement Park in the roller rink there in Rhode Island. I've seen them other times as well, And like I said, I like, I'm not sure Billy's gonna like me after he hears this, if he hears it, all right, So that's coming up on Tuesday. Now, when you're listening to this Disgraceland Smashing Pumpkins episode, just the question is, just do you believe Billy? Do you believe

leave this shapeshifter story? Billy Corgan strikes me as a lot of things. He does not strike me as a bullshit artist. In this story. It sounds like the height of bullshit, and I kind of want to I want to litigate further.

Maybe we can do that in the after party next.

Week six one seven, nine oh six, six sixty three eight. I want to know what you guys think call, leave a voicemail, send me a text, let me know. Can also as always email me Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com, hit us on the socials at Disgrace lampod dot com. You might hear your answers on next week's after party speaking to socials. We're going to be back after this with a bunch of your DMS and comments, also going to do some voicemails and text We're going to dive deeper into this Johnfrey Chante River Phoenix thing.

Talked in a bit. All right, guys, we are back. A lot of you have chimed in, namely.

On Instagram, on this River Phoenix John free Chante's story. I want to get into some of this. I want to get into your messages, and I want to get into some of the criticism. The nature of the criticism around this story not necessarily the story we're telling, but the story we're talking about. That the story we talk about on Instagram. That makes sense anyways. This one comes from Christian Hernandez, and Christian says, hey, fantastic episode. I never looked into this theory too deeply, maybe because I was scared to be heartbroken. Then an artist who meant so much to me and made an impact on my life would have been responsible for River Phoenix's death. Nice to know that I can, at the very least listen

to John free Chante's solo records with ease. Great work to you in the Disgraced team, Christian. I appreciate that very much, namely because, hey, you listen to the episode. You're not just commenting on an Instagram post that lots of people are commenting on right now.

And don't get me wrong, there's a.

Lot of praise for the episode in these comments, but there's a lot of stupid, stupid. I don't even want to call it criticism, and I'm not going to really address criticism.

I think it's dumb.

I think criticism comes with the whole game and you got to take it, and I kind of typically feel like you just don't address it. I feel like for every fifty people who are into what you're doing, there's one who fucking hates it. And you know, we're talking about millions of downloads, et cetera. That adds up pretty quick.

So anyhow, there's two types of commenters I found on Instagram. Okay, I don't really fuck with X. I don't really mess with TikTok or Facebook that much anymore. And it's mainly just Instagram. It's the Patreon where I interact with people, and on Instagram you get exposed the way the algorithm works.

You get exposed now to a bunch of people who don't follow you. It's mainly the exposure to non followers. So people have come in, they've seen this story. They'll read like half of what we've posted and think that we're literally saying that we are alleging that John Fruchiante had something to do with River Phoenix's death, And of course we are not saying that we are litigating this theory, okay.

And the reason that we told this story is because there's a lot to the theory that the Internet theorists as we're calling them, I don't want to call them conspiracy theorists, because there's actually some pretty good discourse on this online. There's a lot of bullshit, mainly bullshit, but there is some good discourse.

The theorists have do have some good points.

That John Fruchiante was there and he was absolutely involved that night that River Phoenix died, does that make him a killer? Well, that's what we try to get into in this episode. But you would think from some of the comments that we're kind of saying that we're being accusatory here, that we are making the case that the internet is making the monolith of the Internet, and we're not clearly clearly. So that's part of it, and that's really fucking annoying. But it's fine, whatever, you get to deal with it. The other thing that I cannot I just can't stand. And I'm so grateful for the listeners who chime in and jump in over the top rope and get into the comments here. It's that these fly by night sort of social media I don't know if

they're real, but they're just immediately dismissive of any exploration of the topic, like this is just done and in their mind.

In four words in a forward.

Comment, they can put a nail in the coffin of this story. The lack of cure curiosity is offensive to me as.

A human being.

Okay, these stories are fascinating, the ins and outs and the drama. They are absolutely compelling and riveting, and there's a reason why a shit ton of people have listened to this episode yesterday and frankly commented on and shared the post. And it's that reason. These stories are endlessly entertaining, and they are they are hard to they're oftentimes unbelievable.

So for someone to come along and just be like, well.

Fuck you, this is a figured out. We knew this twenty years ago, man, you know what I mean.

It's like, take your fucking lack of curiosity and fuck off. Unfollow us, don't listen to us, I don't care. Fuck off. Okay, So that's sort of my take on the takes. I want to get into some emails here from you guys still on this subject. Disgraceingpod at gmail dot com. You want to email us, all right, This one comes from way out West Jake.

It's your girl from the three three.

It's been a minute since I wrote you, but today's episode absolutely warrants it. I think the last time I reached out was the Sharon Stone episode of Hollywood Land. Anyway, I felt like, once again, you read my diary from the nineties. While researching this episode. In nineteen ninety three, I was working at the infamous Tower Records on Sunset that was literally across the street from the Viper Room.

My ex and I went there a few times, and I vividly remember Harry Dean Stanton performing with a band that included Johnny Depp and members of P and the vibe was always very dark and I didn't care for it much. Working at Tower, you saw tons of celebrities every day. John Fruciane, Johnny Depp, River, Phoenix and everyone else you mentioned were there all the time. I remember a few conversations with Johnny Johnny Depp, and he was always a sweetheart. One afternoon, when I was working, this extremely disheveled guy comes running in. You look like death and was obviously high as a kite, and he started ripping CDs out of the bins.

We all watched horrified.

I asked one of the other clerks who it was, and he said, John Frusciante. He used to be in the Red Hot Chili Peppers. It was incredibly sad, and I didn't think he'd be around much longer. Fortunately, as you discussed today, that wasn't the case, Glad. He got a shit together eventually, but I never forgot the sight of him. Finally, I worked at the store the day after River died, and I remember because it was Halloween, but nobody felt very festive.

It was heartbreaking.

Thanks for jogging my memory every few months with a very interesting story.

Always a pleasure to listen to your show, Rock and Roll Up.

I love when we get to hear from people who were there on the scene in some way, shape or form. I have heard from other folks friends of John free Chante's and River Phoenix's as well to people in particular who requested that I keep their names and their messages private. And I got to say, this episode has stirred up a lot of emotion in people want to go to another listener. Here another email, this one from Joe Hey, so glad you covered this awesome episode. Man. John free Chante is my favorite musician ever, and his solo music has touched me throughout the years in ways that nothing else has. It's crazy. I thought I knew everything about the Chili Peppers for years. I read all the books, all the magazines and TV interviews, and this rumor eluded

me until about probably ten years ago. I knew the story of Rivers' death in the viper room and John throwing up on Gibbee and all that, but I never heard anyone blame John fruchant Day for Rivers's death before Again, this is alleged, I'm adding that it's not part of the email. I caught this allegation on Reddit after something peaking my curiosity and at some point and I finally really looked into it. Anyway, man, I really enjoyed this episode.

Been listening since day one.

Last thing.

Since you're into recommendations, I'm sure you've already heard them, but are you into the Black Lips. They're so good and original and I've been listening to the shit out of them lately. Also got to recommend Flea's autobiography, covers his life from birth to the start of the band. Hope you're having a great summer with you and the family.

Appreciate you.

Joe Kenbock, Joe, thank you for the message. I appreciate you. Happy you're digging the Frusiane story.

And I have heard of The Black Lips.

I've seen them live before so on an incredible show downstairs at the Middle East probably in like two thousand and eight ish. It's a long time ago, and they were amazing. They were incredible, great band. And I have not read I've read some of Flee's autobiography Not a Lot. I picked it up for the research for the Freeciante episode.

I didn't end up using it because he doesn't really get into John or River that much. But I am excited to read it. I got a good copy of it. I see the Flea turned up at the Newport Fox Festival. That's exciting. These the clips of Flea's jazz band playing out there are pretty amazing.

They are going around right now. Looks like he's on tour. It's awesome. All right.

Speaking of being on tour, we're gonna take a break from this tour right here, and we'll be back in a minute. We're gonna do a couple of your calls and voicemails. Don't go anywhere, all right, guys, welcome back. Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. You want to get at me with any topic at all.

I want to hear your thoughts on John Fruchiante. I want to hear your thoughts on River Phoenix. I want to hear your thoughts coming up next week on Smashing Pumpkins and Billy Corgan shape Shifter. This voicemail comes from the five to oh three Hime.

Riting this, Crystal, and I'm calling from the five oh three. I absolutely love your podcast, both of them, and I was listening to the after show about albums that takes our lives and whole lived through. This came out when I was in the seventh grade and I was a little outcast kid in a town where I didn't fit in, and the first time I heard it, I was like, this is somebody that gets me, and to this day like you can't make me dislike Courtney Love and I love that she was getting her moment in the sun and I just had to call in. This my first time ever calling or ever sharing an opinion on anything in the shows, but I love what you're doing.

Marilyn Monroe episodes. The best Marilyn Monroe movie, for anyone that knows, is Gentleman for Fort Blaws. It's her ultimate performance. But Niagara is also really great, and.

She didn't get the chance to be what she should have been in her friendal movie with Clurk Gable. She've attended her whole childhood that Curt Gable was her father, so she was living out this fantasy in real life. And because of Arthur Miller and all of those pressures, she sort of crumbled.

And then ultimately died.

But yeah, so thank you for all you do.

And I feel like you need.

To give more love to Courtney Love.

So thanks guys.

By Hey, Crystal really appreciate the voicemail. A lot to get into here, Courtney Love. I'm supposed to be researching Courtney Love right now and I have delayed. And good news is I'm doing another story that I've been delaying for years. That's the Bobby Fuller story. But I delayed the Courtney Love story because we're I want this documentary to come out. There's a movie that's been made about her, and I think it's having trouble finding distribution or something.

I'm not exactly sure.

It's just not out and it should be and I want to use it as part of the research.

So waiting on that.

Also, there was some news that broke yesterday in the New York Post about Kurt's death and Courtney's attorneys and it's the I mean, they're trying to it's thinly veiled, alleging that Courtney has something to hide regarding his death, and that's I don't believe that at all. And there is a huge industry of folks who believe that Courtney Love had something to do with Kurt Cobain, and I'm kind of tired of it because I've really looked into this.

I have looked into the so called evidence they have, and it's complete bullshit in my mind, and I kind of want to litigate it, including all the so called new information that has come out in the last twelve months, which we have. We have that entire dossier of quote unquote research, and I kind of want to do a Courtney Love episode that just finally, you know, does her biography and celebrates her, but also puts a nail in the coffin of these rumors, unlike kind of what I'm doing with Bobby Fuller, which is really kind of like, hey, you know what, the way they said he died, that ain't the way he died actually.

But anyways, Courtney Love is on the brain.

You're gonna get more Courtney Love content soon. I'm not sure in what the exact take will be on Meril Monroe. We have those two episodes that have currently been in the Hollywoodland archive recently, and yeah, you're right, gentlemen, preferred blondes. I don't love it as much as I love Misfits, because Misfits is just so fucking weird. The Clark Gable movie that she did, and it reminds me more of kind of a seventies movie, but I like the whole big set piece thing and then all the dance numbers and everything, and gentlemen prefer wait wait wait no, no, no no, I'm thinking of how to marry a millionaire.

Gentlemen preferred blondes.

Yes, fantastic, that's the the Jack Lemon Tony Curtis one. Great in Niagara. I need to watch it again. She's just so incredibly beautiful in Niagara. It's it's distracting, It's truly distracting.

It's another level. Thanks for the call. Appreciate you. Appreciate you.

Crystal six one seven nine six six sixty three. You guys want to get at us about anything, Always talking covers that are better than originals six to one Oho New Text rock and ROLLA covers that are better than the original. I never knew Don't Do It Don't Break My Heart was a Marvin Gay cover, so I checked it out. Great tune and great unlock, and you know, the band's version is better swampy, rocky and awesome rock and rolla from your pal Jonathan in the six to one.

Oh yeah, you know what I it's that that cover? That cover is is?

I clearly knew that was a Marvin Gay song the first time I watched The Last Waltz. I went about ten years of watching The Last Waltz without associating that song with Marvin Gay for some reason.

And I think it's because the band just fully own it. Yeah, I agree with you.

It is better. It is better than the Marvin Gay version. So there I said it.

Don't be mad six point seven nine oh six sixty six three eight. If you are, you can get in touch with me and let me know.

Big shout out to Bill Strobel Patreon. Over in the Patreon chap Bill is a is an All Access member. Bill is as an artist. He's a visual artist and he did this this mural of Lebron James in Philly or in and around Philly. It's really cool. Actually it's great, and I'm not a Lebron James fan at all. But of course Lebron signed with the six Ers. So Bill gets interviewed by Sports Illustrated this is like this week and somehow, I think it's his daughter or his wife or his girlfriend or something I can't get.

I'm trying to find the article right now.

They call his house to talk to him, to interview him about this Lebron James Bureau, and the person who answers the phone is like, I got to I don't know if I can get him. He's he's listening to his favorite podcast, Disgraceland.

And they print that in.

Sports Illustrated, which is just fucking awesome. So Bill of course drops it in the in the Patreon chat, which I thought was very cool. Thank you, Bill, and congrats to you on your awesome work and on getting Lebron and Jalen Brown.

You can have both of them.

I'd rather lose than have those guys on my team.

For real, for real, good luck.

It took about forty seconds for me to go from being gracious and complimentary to just being a Boston prick. That's just it's you know, you know, it's just what it's about being from New England.

But here's the deal. People don't understand this.

If people in New England give other people shit, it means we like you.

That's what that means. People take it too seriously six one.

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Do not forget this goes. This is not just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed, and no one cares about music, books, records in the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And well that's a disgrace, all right. Back on October thirtieth, nineteen ninety three, River Phoenix's life was cut short outside of the viper room, and this was what America was listening to on that day. According to the Billboard Charts, number one dream lover Mariah Carey last week one peak position one weeks on charts thirteen, number two, I do anything for love, but I won't do that Meet four last week three peak position two mix on chart seven.

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Quit talking and start mixing.

Bonus Episode: Tribute to Sick of it All’s Lou Koller, Plus More John Frusciante and River Phoenix

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