Braelon Allen or Ollie Gordon? Week 4 Waiver Wire Rankings, FAAB Advice & Top Pickups (Ep. 2225)

0:01 What's up, friends, and welcome to Fantasy Pros. This is the Week 4 Waver Wire show, where this week we have got a couple bangers. We've got a couple running backs. We've actually been doing debates. It wasn't even like a planned thing into the season, where each week it's been this guy or this guy at the tippy top. We're obviously going to go through all of it, but the running backs that are going to be paired against each other, they're big dogs this week, so some fab busters are about to happen, and we're going to have some top wavers.

0:26 We're also going to be talking about each position, some streamers, Who should we be cutting? And what does the top five look like? I've got Jake Seeley from The Athletic and Pat Fitzmaurice here. And this week, gentlemen, I preemptively was titling the sheet something else because then another running back injury happened. We saw Devon Aitian ruin my Sunday and ruin my props and a few things. But in comes Ollie Gordon, and it looked like it was the Ollie Gordon week. But no, Brees Hall goes down. So two big running back injuries. And it's Braylon Allen time.

0:58 So Braylon Allen and Ollie Gordon, they are going to dominate and top the waivers this week. But the question is, which one? Because I see dissenting opinion around the interwebs, the injuries. I wonder how much the injury is going to play into how far you want to go. The HN injury looks maybe slightly a little bit more concerning than the Braylon Allen one. But Jake, why don't you start with us here? We've got two running backs that look like they've got a runway. Maybe one has a season.

1:27 Ollie Gordon went 17 for 41, not super effective, but he did score a touchdown. Braylon Allen, this happened later, 4 for 14, also caught 3 for 13. Braylon Allen rostered under 20% of leagues, but Ollie Gordon is 0%. So what do you think about this running back situation and the waiver spot here for FAB versus top waivers?

1:50 Yeah, it really comes down to the fact that we don't know the timeline for either. Like you said, it sounds more damning for A-Chain than it does. Although, Brees Hall, when being interviewed, he was like, I felt something before the tackle and then I felt something else during. That doesn't sound– like I know it's saying the thigh as of right now, but like the way he went down looked like he was holding his hip, whatever it is.

2:09 The fact that he said, I felt something else is what I– like that doesn't sound good to me. You and I were talking about before the show, Aaron Glenn said he's not saying anything until Wednesday. So we're going to have to make moves likely before people can wait to see what the outcome for either are. Like I said, we assume it's really bad for A-chan. But I'm going with Braylon Allen. And I don't want to say it's like a smash easy call for me. Obviously, if we found out, surprise, surprise, somehow Brees Hall was only out a week or two, that would change things and A-chan's out for the season. But the biggest factor comes into it is I just think Jalen Wright is going to be a factor. I think that it's going to be

2:45 similar to the Steelers backfield with Dowdle and Warren is that– on a lesser team, a lesser offense, lesser production, let's be honest. I was an Ollie Gordon fan coming out of college. I was surprised he slipped as far as he did. But after watching him in the NFL, kind of makes sense. He's been okay. Arguably at times yesterday, he probably looked better than he has his entire NFL career, but it still wasn't even that great. And Jalen Wright, for the longest time, was holding on to the number two job. As Fitz talked about in his column, stinger and another injury on top of it. But Barkley came back and didn't miss any. Well, he's playing tonight. He's not missing any time from his stinger. So is Jalen

3:20 Wright back out there next week? It just comes down to, I do think Isaiah Davis is going to be involved, but Braylon Allen was getting passing down work too before this even happened. So I'm going Braylon Allen just because I like the talent better and I think he's going to have a larger share of his backfield.

3:34 We'll talk about percentages and all that after, but what do you think about this situation?

3:39 There is a.

3:40 Speculative thing I saw that what if the Brees Hall situation was like a three to six week or an HN was much longer? Or if I give you more of a definitive, what if it is Brees Hall is out for three weeks, and A-Chan is out for six weeks, and you have that type of marker. Does that change anything if you are team pro Braylon Allen?

3:58 Yeah, there's a lot to triangulate here. Presumably a longer injury for A-Chan, a worse offense. I mean, the Miami offense, pretty dysfunctional, and the Jets offense, not bad. Like, starts with a pretty respectable offensive line up front. That line is giving Geno Smith time to do business, and now there's some banged-up Jets pass catchers, which maybe makes them lean on the running game a little more. Plus, as Jake said, I think Jalen Wright is more of an existential threat to Ollie Gordon's value than Isaiah Davis is to Braylon Allen's. So far, Isaiah Davis has played exclusively special teams snaps this season. No offensive snaps for Isaiah Davis, and that was after Aaron Glenn had said, Leading into

4:43 the season that it might be a three-way mix.

4:46 Pause.

4:47 Pause. Right now, a Chan torn ACL. There you go.

4:52 Just like as we're doing this?

4:54 I want to jump in because I want to see if it changes Fitz's opinion at all. Just because you're in the middle of your explanation. Also- Can you sidebar your Wisconsin fanmanship in this whole, like, I think that's part of it too.

5:06 Well, but I think this was always in play because like when I, because like I had put, just as a side note, I had put like, you know, this is the Ollie Gordon sheet with you guys. And then I missed the Brees Hall thing moving away. And you guys are like, Oh no, maybe Brees Hall is out. And now we're looking at Braylon Allen. But as I was doing the work on this last night, the more I looked at it to me, timeframe seemed like it was going to be a relatively important factor outside of, I do agree. Like the Dolphins offense is just, not even like arguably worse. They're just worse. It's just a worse offense. But if you have these huge timeframes, that does seem like an important piece. And now that's massive.

5:39 Yeah, I think I'm kind of going in with the assumption of like three to four for Hall with the possibility of longer.

5:48 So are you switching to Gordon now hearing this?

5:51 No, I'm not.

5:53 Because I think there's so little meat on the bone in that offense. I mean, Ollie Gordon has averaged 2.7 yards per carry. In the NFL with almost, I think that's over like 90 carries. And Jalen Wright, like there have been times in 2025, it seemed like it kind of oscillated between Gordon and Jalen Wright as the number two and the number three. Like it hasn't always been easy to discern the depth chart with the Miami running backs.

6:19 And so that's what I worry about. And there's a chance it just winds up being a 50-50 where it's Ali Gordon mostly on early downs, Jalen Wright mostly on passing downs, and just there's not enough juice in this offense for either guy to be like a useful fantasy asset. But then again, I mean, maybe one of these guys takes the job and runs with it. And I mean, I would bid more for Ali Gordon, but I think Jalen Wright might actually wind up.

6:44 Being the better deal.

6:45 If we get some sort of indication this week that the foot thing Stinger thing, not a long-term injury most of the time. Foot injury, it all depends on what the foot issue is. So we got to check that. It didn't seem like there are any concerns about it being like a full season type thing. And just real quick, yeah, I did go to Wisconsin, so I know a little something about Braylon Allen. I mean, he's an interesting player.

7:07 You know, I had my reservations about him as an NFL prospect. Not like Jonathan Taylor, where it's like you saw JT play in college and you knew he was the truth and was going to be instantly one of the best running backs in the NFL when.

7:18 He came out.

7:20 But Braylon Allen, when he did come into the league, he was the youngest player in his draft class at any position. And it's been kind of a slow rollout for him. I guess my biggest beef with him at Wisconsin was he didn't use that 235 pound frame like the battering ram. Maybe he should at times and tried to be, you know, a scat back in a John Riggins' body? No, I mean, still, you give him a clear lead back role, and I think he's going to be valuable for a surprisingly respectable Jets offense.

7:52 I think he'd be Latavius Murray. Like, that's what I said about him coming out of college.

7:57 I kind of like that comp.

7:58 That's all right. So, Jake, are you swapping?

8:00 No. No. But like this could blow up in our faces because if it's one to two weeks for Brees Hall, I would even if Ollie Gordon wasn't what we'd like. I mean, even if it is a 50-50 in every single week, it ends up being the Broncos where it's just a wasteland. Like you don't want either one of them. Like they're both RB3s at best. So I think that that's the issue and Fitz said that as well and I think we're on the same page there. But only two weeks of Brees Hall– I mean, do you need the two weeks of production RB2? Maybe you do, but you would still take the chance. You would take the chance, put it this way, if we knew today, Bracehall back in week six, I would say Ollie Gordon, Jalen Wright,

8:44 then Braylon Allen, because it could be either one.

8:47 Could be neither, but you take that.

8:48 Chance because what if one of them is an RB2 for the rest of the season?

8:52 Yeah, I think that's where I'm leaning. I think I'm leaning into the Olly Gordon side.

8:55 Please don't say like the Broncos because that means that Braylon Allen actually has some sort of hidden injury and Brees Hollis fit as a fiddle and we're all going to go out and spend.

9:03 Well, don't forget they traded for Jarquez Hunter too. So he's probably going to be activated. Don't forget.

9:08 It could just be a full-blown committee of nonsense. All right, then let's talk about number one waivers. So Fitzy, you're going to burn your number one waiver on Braylon Allen. Like, I mean, I'm asking, would you use your number one? I have to imagine with running backs of multiple weeks, this is an easy yes. But it is you are locking into Braylon Allen as your number one burn.

9:26 Yeah, I mean, and I would burn the number one waiver priority, certainly if I had Brees Hall and certainly if, you know, I was hurting at running back and had to start TyJ Spears like I did yesterday.

9:36 Or HN, yes.

9:38 Jake, are you burning your number one on Ollie Gordon?

9:42 I would burn my number one on all three, even, like I said, including Jalen Wright, just because you've got to take the chance. We're now heading into week four, and we're looking at running backs across the league are starting to get hurt. and we're starting to like right now kenny gangwell is probably not out there in most leagues probably got dropped in some but like we don't know berkey irving got banged up i mean there was injuries galore this past week so you start have to take those chances where like you like fit said if you're flush and you have a third running back that's even startable you know maybe you don't burn your number one and maybe try to sneak them through or like go for a little bit lower fab But I think

10:18 that you kind of have to take the chance.

10:19 And then Fab, what's the, Jake, what's your percentage on, obviously you're using all of them. You can say it's the same percentage on all three if you want, but what is your percentage range?

10:29 I think depending on your need is going to really depend on whether you start going 20 plus percentage. I think I try to live in the mid-teens for all three of them. I think I like going over 30%. I do too, but I wouldn't go there. I'd rather just take the same percentage and be like, okay, I ended up with Jalen Wright instead. And like I just– I would because I just don't really believe– maybe I'm wrong.

10:51 But I just really don't believe that Ali Gordon is going to be like 65% of the workload. Braylon Allen– and on the flip side of this, like if we got worse news on Wednesday, again, that's the problem. Maybe your waivers won't run so then we can get news before that. But if we found out Braylon Allen was out for– sorry, Brees Hall was out for eight.

11:07 Weeks?

11:08 Agreed. I mean, then I'd be like 30-plus percent on Braylon Allen because we know he should be an RB2. Yeah, and I think that's the only really separator here is like weeks. For Braylon Allen's most talented back of these guys in that offense, and if he is multi-multi-weeks, you know, four-plus, it's a different conversation. Your fab number, Fitzy, is it the same? Is it just like, where are you at?

11:29 20, 25?

11:29 Yeah.

11:31 So in the waiver article, I've got a $ 15 fair value price on Braylon Allen, but a desperate bid must have price of $ 30. So I think $ 15 to $ 30 is the range for him. For Ollie Gordon, $ 13 to $ 27. But man, I don't want to spend 30% of my fab budget on the Miami Dolphins backfield.

11:52 I just don't.

11:54 So to Jake's point, I would rather take the budget approach with Jalen Wright, who I think has a range of maybe like $ 7 to $ 15.

12:02 Okay.

12:03 Yeah. And I think desperation, desperation says it all. I got a team or two where there's absolute RB2 desperation. So I would be one that would spend up for a guy like Ali Gordon for the season to have, you know, a warm body. But a couple of running backs, two guys at the tippy top going to dominate. We are going to talk about a few other running backs, then wide receivers, and we'll keep moving through here. But let's talk about this opportunity for you guys watching and listening to to win the ultimate symbol of fantasy glory, the Fantasy Football Championship belt, courtesy of our friends over at Trophy Smack, the number one destination for epic fantasy football hardware. This massive gold-plated belt is built to make

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13:15 Braylon Allen. Jake, I think you've kind of settled on Ollie Gordon as your tippy top, but it's like, No?

13:22 Well, who wasn't? Jake is also Braylon.

13:23 Oh, you were? Well, I thought you were going under the guise of like Braylon Allen was to week six. I guess you're still holding.

13:28 On to this longer. I was saying if we knew it was only going to be two weeks, then that would shift.

13:32 Okay. Well, easier then.

13:34 Great.

13:34 Braylon Allen's at the tippy top for both of you guys. We've already talked about Ollie Gordon. It's not– and obviously Jalen Ray. It's not awesome the rest of the crew that's floating out there. We put some names together. There's really one high percentage guy that you guys ended up putting back on the list. I didn't because he was over 40%, trying to keep him under 40. But you guys both are going to be making a case in this episode, I guess, for Alvin Kamara, who is 43% owned according to Yahoo. Yeah, that's like a really high one.

14:01 Why are you dropping the number further?

14:03 Come on.

14:03 Well, because we're trying to discern this a little bit. But yeah, under 40% is usually what I go for. Keaton Mitchell. He's kind of pushing up there, 31%. Brian Robinson Jr., 22%. Those are the high ones. And then the low ones, you guys had already mentioned, like an Isaiah Davis wasn't owned at all. Jalen Wright, 1%. Fitzy, why don't you kick us off? Any thoughts or takes on some of these running backs that are floating out that you guys have done a really good job of kind of like, you know, building a bridge of who the tippy top guys are. But a few of these are their higher percentage owned players and whatnot. Is there anybody that you are throwing your sneaky little dollar bids on while everybody's fighting for Braylon Allen and Jalen Wright.

14:41 So Kamara is already rostered in a lot of leagues.

14:44 And with Travis Etienne leaving the Saints Week 3 game against the Raiders with a hamstring injury, there will be speculation on Kamara in leagues where he's available this week. But he just hasn't been good with his touches, which kind of continues what we saw from him in 2025. So far, 18 carries, 51 yards, six catches for only 12 yards. But look, volume is king at running back, and it does seem like Kamara's next man up if Ichan misses time. But Kendra Miller might be kind of a sneaky good add here. While Kamara does seem to be losing something with age, Kendra Miller has kind of been fairly decent whenever he's been healthy.

15:27 He just can't stay healthy.

15:28 That has been the biggest issue for him early in his career, but he's still only 24, and They spent a third-round pick on him, and he's shown flashes where he hasn't looked too bad. I mean, he kind of squeezed Devin Neal out of the picture in New Orleans, and a lot of people like Devin Neal as a prospect.

15:45 So I think Kendrick Miller might be worth a small bit, a little less than Alvin Kamara, but I mean, I think he's more the swing-for-the-fences type play. And then Keaton Mitchell, the one thing interesting about him, like I don't think he has standalone value right now.

16:00 Did have eight carries yesterday.

16:02 Against the Bills, scored on a jet sweep that they, it officially went down as a pass reception because I guess Herbert flipped the ball forward as.

16:12 Mitchell was running by.

16:13 But what was interesting about that game was that O'Marion Hampton played less than half the offensive snaps for the first time this year for the Chargers. And that wasn't game script related. Like the Chargers led or were very close for much of that game. So Just seems like O'Marion Hampton has almost been kind of a square peg in the round hole of the Mike McDaniel offense. And we know that Mike McDaniel campaigned to get Keaton Mitchell on the Chargers in the offseason.

16:44 All right, Jake, what do you think about this grouping here? You're welcome to wax on Alvin Kamara if you want a little bit more. There's Brian Robinson. There's Keaton Mitchell. I mean, we know where the focus is at RB, but is there anybody you're trying to sneak past?

16:56 I mean, if I waxed on it, Alvin Kamara, maybe that's the only way he'd be slippery again. See, there you go. What comes down to it is that I was going to say everything Fitz just said about Kamara and the fact that you do have to go after him. Volume is king. Maybe he's just what he marks of last year with the Texans. Volume offsets the fact that he's inefficient at this point. But to watch Kendrick Miller, I would try to sneak through Kendrick Miller. Let somebody else go after Alvin Kamara and be like, yeah, okay, cool.

17:21 I've got RB27 going forward. but maybe just because it was an in-game adjustment and Kendrick Miller was just coming back from being inactive the week before is that he gets the opportunity to take the role. It doesn't look good for Etchen. He grabbed his own hamstring before he went out of bounds and even got hit. So that's always a damning thing to say. So I agree completely with Fitz. There's one on this list that you put there that I've been saying since the preseason, since week one, since week two, since week three, and people are going so far as to drop him the other direction. It's like, What are we doing with Brian Robinson? If something happens to Bajon Robinson, people are going to go insanely crazy

17:57 on waivers for good reason. He's still Brian Robinson just because Christian McCaffrey stayed healthy last year and we didn't get the value we wanted out of Brian Robinson because we were playing the injury game. It doesn't mean Brian Robinson is not still one of the top five backups to have for running back. So I would put him in that conversation. I think that the fact he's at 22%, another one, if you don't need, while everybody's chasing Camaro, And the Gordon and the, like, go stash Brian Robinson. Like, God forbid, don't let Bichon get hurt. But, I mean, people would be talking 70% of their fab if it happened.

18:30 It's funny, because there was this Kalon Black mania after week one. And, like, Brian Robinson, it's kind of the same thing, and no one cares about Brian Robinson.

18:37 Well, yeah, and Robinson got, like, 11 carries or 10 carries, 11 for 50. 50 and a touchdown. And that's what Kalon did. And, yeah, you're 100% right. If I were to ask you guys, just as a quick, Give me like a top five Arby's to target. And you've already got half of the work done. So, so Fitzy, we'll start.

18:53 So you got Braylon Allen, your tippy top. So top five for this week, for this week, for this week that you're talking about Robinson.

18:59 I don't know if you meant like top five handcuffs. Oh, no, no.

19:02 I mean, that's also a fun question. And he would be top five, a hundred percent to your point, why you should pick him up. But Fitzy top five running backs for this week. With everything we've talked about, because we're going to move on from running backs, we know Braylon Allen is number one for you. Who are the next four?

19:15 Then Ollie Gordon and Jalen Wright, the two Miami backs, two and three. And then the two Saints backs. I would go Alvin Kamara, four. Kendra Miller, five.

19:25 Okay, that's perfect. Jake, same thing. Is that the same grouping, or you got a little bit of a difference? Probably.

19:31 If I don't need a running back, I might leave Brian Robinson over Kendrick Miller. If you're a fifth running back, Brian Robinson, just because that's the game changer if anything were to happen. If I need a fourth or even a third, like I said, I agree with Fitz. Just take the chance on Kendrick Miller. Like if we walked out next week and Kendrick Miller's the top waiver ad because he got 13 touches to seven for Kamara, like that wouldn't shock me.

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20:34 to get $ 50 free after you trade just $ 10. top wide receivers for the week. Now we've got some differences here. It's maybe not as sexy, but you guys at least don't agree. So Jake, why don't you kick us off here? Let's talk about your number one before we talk about what some of the depth looks like. Cause you guys both have two top wide receivers. You would be targeting two different names that you would be targeting. So Jake, who's your name?

20:59 It's finally happening. Like stash them, stash them, stash them, stash them, stash them. And now the door got open because Caleb Douglas is hurt. And, I still don't even think Chris Bell was up to 100% yesterday. He was close. And then we saw what he could do with 100%. I know it's Malik Willis. I know the offense is broken.

21:16 But I think Malik Washington's 10 targets, which I'm sure we'll talk about in this, I think that's going away with some time. I actually think Caleb Douglas, if he comes back, it's going to now be, if they're fully taking the reins off, Chris Bell is 100% up to speed. It's Bell and Douglas with Malik Washington kicked into the slot.

21:32 So you saw what Bell could do, and I think there was an opportunity for that one play to be even a slightly bigger day. But we all knew the talent of Chris Bell. Fitz knew this. He covers the draft as much as I do, actually even a little bit more. And you look at the fact that if not for the injury, he was considered a first-round wide receiver.

21:49 So you saw that opportunity yesterday, and I'm just going to take the chance on it. It's finally here. If you waited and you just didn't want to stash him, And he's still sitting out there, which he is in a lot of leagues. What is his roster percentage? It's only 4%? That's just insane. He's somebody that it's going to take a week before I say definitively put him in every single week without thought. But in two weeks, if he is consistently in the wide receiver 3-4 conversation where he's in your lineup every single week, I would not be shocked at all.

22:19 Yeah, and also, I mean, they just lost A-Chan, and they're going to have to find more spots to get the ball in playmakers' hands, and they've really done a good job about that.

22:28 Well, the kind of argument is now the offense goes full belly up. I mean, you could, but— It now looks like the Titans.

22:34 I think they need to be passing the ball more, and we saw early in pre— I' ve been a Chris Bell guy as well, like— Really, really good early separator. I think him and Washington can do different things. So I like this one. Seven targets in this game without Caleb Douglas. But, Fitzy, you've got a different name that tops your wide receiver.

22:50 Waivers this week.

22:51 Yeah, it's Keenan Allen. Look, it's just a gross week at wide receiver. Like, there's no... Yeah, why'd you huff so?

22:59 You're like, it's so exhausting.

23:02 Yeah, I mean, it kind of depends what you mean. Can I ask you a question, Fitz? Of course.

23:07 Because here is my hesitancy about Keenan Allen is the Darius Slayton factor. I'm just worried that he's immediately thrown into the mix with the rapport with Daniel Jones starting next week.

23:15 No one said that in a long time, but okay.

23:18 I'm just saying. It's just– I'm generally curious because I don't want to say I was shocked, but I was a little bit surprised that you had Keenan Allen here because I see Darius Slayton coming. I'm just like, the only two people I want are Downs and Warren. So I'm generally surprised by your answer. I just wanted a little context.

23:34 The context, I think, Jake, is just it all depends on what you're looking for at wide receiver. If you are looking purely for upside, I think Chris Bell is the guy. If you're looking for throw a dart at a long-term solution at wide receiver that Odds are probably won't work out for you, but worth a shot. I mean, at 4% rostered, you can probably get Chris Bell for a dollar in some way.

23:59 How dare be smushed the name of Chris Bell? Come on, Fitz.

24:02 So, I mean, I would probably, in that long-term solution category, put Chris Bell one. And right behind him, Kalem Douglas is just a stash at two. Like, I got to throw a buck on now because you'll get him for a buck. But if you're looking for purely a week four play, Jake, Keenan Allen, because he's going against the Commanders, who've given up, I think, 11 touchdown passes. They've allowed multiple touchdown games, too. Granted, two pretty good wide receivers with CeeDee Lamb and Jackson Smith and Jigba, and old man Keenan Allen is not of that caliber anymore. But he did show signs of life, finally, in Week 3.

24:40 Six catches, 63 yards, a touchdown, nine targets. And that was against a pretty good Houston defense. So, I think if you're just looking for a one-week play, Keenan Allen is, you know, I'm going to have Keenan Allen ranked higher than Chris Bell in week four. But I do think if you're looking longer-term solution, higher upside Chris Bell would be the.

24:59 Way to go.

25:00 Nine targets. Yeah, nine targets, six catches, 63 in a score. And 21% roster percentage to Chris Bell's 4%. Some other names that are floating out here on the wide receiver market. Mack Hollins, Erickson's got to be happy. Nine target games, six catches, 87 yards, only 3% rostered. Trey Harris, Trey Harris doing it hilariously when both of the wide receivers, other wide receivers are active. He had seven targets, six for 76. He was 4% rostered. Malik Washington, as we talked about, 10 targets. He was five for 56. And then you got a couple of lower ones. Roman Wilson had a nice day. He was 0% rostered. Jordan Watkins, just because every 49er is just falling down.

25:39 0%.

25:41 And then Juwan Jennings, who the 49ers would probably just kill to have back, 5% rostered. There's some interesting names that are floating out there. Jake, when we're now perusing the rest of this list, who catches your eye that you would probably be targeting, if any of these guys?

25:56 Trey Harris. I told a lot of people in waivers, go ahead, last week, go ahead and drop Quinton Johnston. He's been given every opportunity to make this happen as the number two, and then Ladd-McConkie's out. It's just still not happening. Trey Harris is coming for him. Trey Harris, Probably would have been more of a name going into the season if not what happened with the injury and missing most of the rookie year. So I think that one's one to watch. The deeper ones, I threw in the Jordan Watkins and Juwan Jennings for two things. It's like the 49ers, uncertain.

26:20 It could be Cowan.

26:21 It could be Watkins. I like Watkins for the downfield ability and the fit in the Shanahan offense.

26:25 At the end of the day, it might be irrelevant.

26:28 Because it's just going to be Debo, Kittle, and CMC. And then we're whatever the fourth option might be. I think it's irrelevant, but to your point. But if I'm going to take a chance, I'm just going to take a chance on Watkins, assuming Evans is long-term-ish, like four-plus weeks like we were talking about before.

26:41 It's also probably one week, just to throw out, because Christian Kirk is going to be back in week five, and I know that's eye-rolling, but he's going to dominate slot and targets.

26:50 And stuff like that. I dropped Christian Kirk in Dynasty. Let's stop.

26:53 I'm just telling you what I'm saying.

26:54 He's going to be out there for seven snaps and get hurt again.

26:56 Let's be real. So every 49er, not just Christian Kirk, every 49er, seven snaps. But yeah, keep going.

27:02 You should resuscitate your gift meme thing from last year with CMC. It's just sucking the life force out of everybody again this year to stay healthy.

27:11 Like it's just– it's happening.

27:12 The Jawan Jennings is interesting because I think that if Justin Jefferson were long term, like three, four, five, six weeks, I think he steps into that role. I'm not saying like I want to start him over Jordan Addison. It's just that I think he takes that opportunity and maybe has a desperation why I would ship her four or five.

27:28 So the Rowan Wilson one was weird as hell. Like they're– He got benched after missing that and leading to that interception, like essentially got benched after his hot start into that game. Like, I don't know how mad McCarthy was, but maybe it's an Aaron Rodgers thing. Maybe he's like, I'm not throwing him to him anymore anyway because of what just happened.

27:46 But that was a weird one because he started off hot in that game and then it was goodbye.

27:49 I don't think Rodgers likes Wilson. He talked about targets or anything like that. He just screams about him. He just wants no part of it. Same thing, Fitzy, the same group. I mean, Trey Harris seems to kind of be popping a little bit. There was no Matt Collins in there. There's, you know, a couple other interesting guys.

28:04 Who catches your eye outside of Keenan Allen and.

28:06 Chris Bell, of course?

28:08 Yeah, Harris could maybe take over for QJ, who just had another bad drop of a ball that should have been a first down, just is not getting it done. So he's won. I mean, we should point out that in Yahoo! Leagues, I know these guys are mostly rostered, but Dontavian Wicks... and Makai Lemon are 51% available in Yahoo!

28:27 League. Granted, they're not.

28:31 Available in a lot of leagues, and we don't know what their week three results are because they play on Monday night. We're recording this on Monday morning, but those would be my two top ads if they do happen to be available in your 10-person league.

28:44 I got so much of that question last week with Makai Lemon. Again, And maybe that's because I preached about how he's better outside and that it's a fine fit with Jalen Hurst, but whatever that might be. I said this in the preseason, said it week one, said two, three. I keep saying it. He is a long-term stash. He is not on your bench if you're going to get impatient and drop him in a week. Just find somebody else.

29:04 Pick up Wicks instead. The Mikhail Lemmon situation, because he missed so much of the preseason, because he's a rookie and missed so much of the preseason, he was going to be week six, seven, eight or beyond. It's the second half of the season play. Similar to Jordan Tyson, just because of his injury. So I'm with Vince. Absolutely stash him. But don't stash him if you're just going to turn around and throw him back onto the waivers next week.

29:24 Yeah, and I agree. And also just pointing out for the he's not available in my league crew, like we get it. It's over 50%. But that's why we don't talk about over 50% because those people remind everybody. But yeah, I would completely agree. They would be at the tippy top. Because also, as mentioned, here, wide receiver is, it's not flush.

29:42 You know, there's some names, but it's not flush full of great options.

29:44 So how dare you try to help the eight teamers in addition to the 14?

29:49 He's not available in my league, Fitz. Don't talk about him.

29:52 Can I make up for it by throwing out one name real quick of a guy who's available, even in the deeper leagues, Kanata Mumfield, who it's just, Puka Nakua could be back in week four, or he could need surgery. It seems like we're getting kind of mixed signals from the Rams on that.

30:06 There's no in-between. He's either fine or he's done.

30:09 Like, what the hell?

30:11 Yeah, so we find out this week that Puka needs surgery. Kanata Mumfield is interesting. Had the big game on Sunday night against the Broncos, including just completely flummoxing Riley Moss on an out-and-up route that went for like a 48-yard touchdown. Mumfield has been Devontae Adams' protege. for the Rams so like it's been kind of messy as to who the number three receiver there is technically I know a lot of people want to make it Terrence Ferguson but um I think it's Mumfield and I think he might have some potential value if we get a long-term absence for Puka all right.

30:46 Give me uh let's do a top five let's do a top five on the position and you can add in Mumfield if you've got him there Jake but Fitzy why don't you start us off top five wide receivers You've got Keenan Allen at one. It sounds like you've got Chris Bell at two. Who are the other three that you're going to add into your top priority?

31:01 All right, I'll leave out the Eagles so as not to offend people. I'll say Keenan Allen, Chris Bell, Caleb Douglas, and maybe I'll go Trey Harris and Wanda Robinson just because he showed signs of life and I think maybe he needed a couple games to get in sync with Tate.

31:23 Or not with Tate, with Cam Ward.

31:25 I was looking, I feel like, I want to look here. I thought Robinson's roster percentage was too high. 47, yeah, 47%.

31:32 62%.

31:32 62% on Yahoo. All right, so never mind him. I'll say, you know, Rashad Bateman, like I know he's the number two, but maybe this, the Ravens offense looks like it's clicking. I think maybe it can support two receivers, although Bateman is kind of like an end of the roster guy.

31:52 Yeah.

31:52 All right, Jake, what's your top five? We know Chris Bell's number one.

31:55 So Jordan Addison, number one.

31:59 The first thing I did when the injury happened, I looked at Addison. I was like, oh, yeah, 78% is probably not going to fly.

32:06 Wait, 78?

32:06 Yeah, it's 73. Okay. I didn't know if he dropped.

32:09 I was going to say that would be insane if he dropped for whatever reason.

32:11 Yeah, and by the way, you're playing your eight-team league. Yeah, it's 75.6% on Yahoo. But yeah, your eight-team leagues are like flush, and you guys are awesome, but we got to talk deeper. So not Addison and not Eagles.

32:22 Chris Bell, number one. I thought– like Caleb Douglas, sure, I agree with number two. I would actually go to Trey Harris, then Keenan Allen. And then for the final flyer after that, nobody. Juwan Jennings, just because like we don't know right now, Justin Jefferson. I mean, if it's even three weeks, Juwan Jennings will be like a wide receiver four. Touchdown reliant, but I mean, it could just be a situation where he and Addison are both good and T.J. Hawkinson takes a step back.

32:51 Yeah.

32:52 I think a chance on that. We do also have like the Baker Mayfield is now two to four weeks, according like while we're doing this too.

32:57 Oh yeah.

32:57 So yeah, which is super great injuries here. It's going great. It's going great, everybody.

33:01 All right.

33:02 Those are running back and wide receivers.

33:04 We still are.

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33:39 Build your personalized waiver plan today at fantasypros.com slash plan. That's fantasypros.com slash plan. Let's do a little keeper cut. We'll kind of burn through these and we'll talk about some of our top streamers. I had put this on. The injury makes it weird, but you know what? Let's hold to it. There are plenty of leagues where people don't have any IR spots and any injury spots or guess what? Are full with it. Are we in a space where Travis HN, who's 97% owned, can be cut regardless even of the injury, but put the injury together if you would like here. And knowing like when Braylon Allen or Ali or Gordon is available here, Jake, we'll start with you. Keep or cut Travis HN with all of those little caveats, knowing there's an injury and knowing

34:26 that those guys are available. Would you keep or cut them?

34:30 I mean, it's tough because we don't know Hall either. So like, If we had the same exact timeline and Etchen is what I'm going to call him. Although we don't have to worry about it now because Etchen is actually out for the season.

34:43 So you don't have to confuse people anymore. I know.

34:45 There's no confusion anymore. If we knew, say, four weeks for both because he grabbed his own hamstring. I'm almost leaning to Etchen might be worse than Brees Hall. But all that being said, if it was the same exact timeline, I'd make the swap. I, if there's no IR, if there's IR, there's no way on earth that I'm dropping etching.

35:03 Like he finally started looking good. They finally started turning back to him. Like Camara was getting very few touches and it's like, okay, your patience paid off. You might have only an RB2, but your patience paid off. So I don't want to drop them. But like, again, you're talking about benches without IRs, which is just insane to me.

35:18 It was just like, I mean, like stop, stop double penalizing people.

35:22 Stop it, please.

35:23 I don't have IRs in my league, Jake. That guy's not available and I don't have IRs.

35:27 Make the tough decisions.

35:28 Yeah, like make the tough decisions. Get the hell out of there with that noise. I don't want to take up the entire show. You can come at me for after that.

35:34 Fitzy, same thing.

35:35 Yeah, so.

35:37 I think you could drop Ichin in shallow leagues because even– like the role has not been what we had hoped. He's basically a committee back even if he were to come back two weeks.

35:49 From He is the tornado of chaos. All three of us said his name differently. I just want to point out. I know there's someone out there that heard. All three of us said it in a completely different way.

35:58 That's right, because you're never confused with mine. Etchen? There's only one player that could possibly be Etchen.

36:03 I mean, everybody is committed to Etchen, because just like Devon Etchen, but.

36:07 I still don't believe him. That's why I'm calling him Etchen.

36:08 Great, great.

36:09 You're from the area. You wanted to go with the Cajun's pronunciation.

36:13 It's Etchen. I'm over caring about it. Brian, are you over caring about Brian Thomas? 83% owned.

36:19 No, I still have his football behind me.

36:21 That's Cajun so much.

36:22 Keep or cut. Say it. Goodbye.

36:25 Bye-bye.

36:26 He's Quentin Johnston. He's behind Jacoby Myers. Not even like neck and neck. Josh Cameron started taking snaps from him. Yep.

36:35 Cameron, I think, either played more snaps or ran more routes than BTJ.

36:39 Trade BTJ. This is a group cut, right?

36:42 Yes.

36:43 If you were forced to roster Marvin Harrison or Brian Thomas, who would you live with?

36:50 Brian Thomas.

36:51 Brian Thomas, Marvin Harrison, Quentin Johnson at the bottom. Okay. And that's only the hope that Marvin Harrison and Brian Thomas find new teams.

36:59 And Quinton Johnson was the next name up here. 71% roster. Jake, you're already cutting.

37:03 He was tossed away last week.

37:05 Yeah, well, I just don't know. And Fitzy, we're cutting.

37:07 Okay, perfect.

37:08 He's out.

37:08 How about a couple of running backs in here? How about Tyler Algier? A lot of Jeremiah Love. Hold him.

37:14 Hold him.

37:15 Yeah, he's in the next tier behind the Brian Robinsons of the world. But if Jeremiah Love already got hurt, we're going to get RB2 value from Algier if anything were to happen again.

37:24 Okay, let's make it worse. 72% Marshawn Lloyd, Fitzy.

37:28 Oh, yeah.

37:29 I mean, a committee back behind the worst offensive line in the league.

37:34 See ya. 72% on Yahoo. And again, for people understanding why I bring up some of these names, because of the roster percentage. 72% are still holding on to Marshawn Lloyd.

37:43 Flip those numbers. It'll be 27 a week from now.

37:46 Exactly.

37:47 And Jake, you're cutting?

37:49 Yeah. I had him and Caleb Johnson in my mid-RB30s, 30 to 40 range. And that was still too high for both of them.

37:57 These three, I don't know which one of you added them, but I like the names. Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert has not been living up to the high hopes. This is kind of that back-end quarterback range. I definitely think he's moved himself from like he's your weekly start to now you're looking at quarterback planning to maybe now he's just not part of the plan. Fitzy, keep or cut Justin Herbert.

38:16 If you can't afford to carry two quarterbacks, he plays Seattle and Denver the next two weeks.

38:20 I would just cut him.

38:22 Jake?

38:23 You don't have to cut him if you listen to me because you don't have him on any of your damn teams. I was wrong on some things. Colson Loveland, by the way, as being the number two tight end. But there was one thing I definitely wasn't wrong and that was Justin Herbert was way too high in everybody's rankings.

38:36 I was never Justin Herbert.

38:38 This last one, Chris Godwin. There's an interesting name that pops up here. So it definitely was in one of your minds. Fitzy, keep or cut Chris Godwin. Yeah, Fitz put those in there.

38:47 Yeah, barely doing anything, 40 or fewer yards in his first three games, and now he's got to play with Jalen Daniels for two to four weeks.

38:55 No thanks. You can just lose him. You're not missing out on anything.

38:58 Did you see how much he hated saying that, Jalen Daniels? Man, you hate Jalen Daniels. What's wrong with Jalen Daniels, dude?

39:04 Nothing wrong, but do you want to start an undrafted rookie free agent quarterback?

39:09 No. Yeah. Watch him run more than Malik Wills does now, though. That'd be funny. But yeah, Chris Godwin was floor. He was floor, floor, floor, floor, floor. But I mean, what do you need a floor? He's the one I should have argued against instead of Jacoby Myers and why you were drafting him in the preseason.

39:24 Keeper cut. Those are some big ones. You guys can drop in your comments below what you're watching and listening. You can let us know if there's... one you completely disagree with. I think HM, Brian Thomas, Chris Godwin, those are probably the most controversial of them. A lot of the others are probably easy moves. That takes us to the top streamers. We have been so hyper-focused on wide receivers and running backs. I will say, because of our format, we've gone this long without talking about a very important player who is going to be important to waivers. And I think, yeah, he does make the top five of both of your lists because he comes in at tight end. So, Fitzy, why don't you kick us off here? You're going to

39:59 give us the whole thing, the quarterback, the tight end, the defense, and the kicker that you like. But everybody knows what's coming here because the tight end that you guys both agree on, that's one of the bigger plays.

40:08 For this week.

40:09 I'll just run through real quick.

40:10 Daniel Jones is my top streaming quarterback just because I like the matchup with Washington, which has allowed 11 touchdown passes to quarterback. Sam Darnold just threw 379 yards, four touchdowns against Washington. Kenyon Sadiq, the top guy for sure. I'll let Jake talk more about him, but we don't know what the Garrett Wilson got hurt at the end of the game. I heard maybe it's minor, but we've got Anna Mitchell out with a finger injury. It just seems like Sadiq is really involved. Granted, this was against a Lions defense that has given up touchdowns to six different tight ends so far this season. But Sadiq looked the part. He looked amazing on Sunday. If you can't get him, Darren Waller, who with a Jalen Coker long-term

40:55 absence coming, I think Waller is more than just the red zone guy coming up. He had eight targets on Sunday, and that was the tide for the most he has had since coming out of retirement. in 2025. Streaming defense, they didn't look good last Thursday night, but the Green Bay Packers, because they're going against Jalen Daniels, who took his first snaps in the waning moments of the Buccaneers' loss on Sunday.

41:19 And then streaming kickers.

41:20 Matt Gay, shh, don't tell anyone the Raiders are 3-0, and they've scored at least 26 points in all three of their games, and Matt Gay has not missed a kick yet, 7-7 on field goals. And then Tyler Bass, Just your high floor, still available in like 75% of Yahoo leagues. The kicker for the Bills. You know, he's going to get like three extra points minimum every week.

41:41 I think Bass has made every single episode we've done of this on the streaming option. So he'll pick them up. All right, Jake, you can give us your quarterback and your defense. Just burn through that real quick because I know that's not the big topic here. And then let's talk about Sadiq.

41:54 Yeah, sorry, I zoned out. I didn't even know what you guys were talking about at the end there. So really what it comes down to, if available– CJ Stroud, I know he's over 50, but he's barely over 50, goes against the Cowboys, which similar to my touchdown flagpan, double touchdown call from two weeks ago going against the Giants for Devontae Adams, the Cowboys just ran into the same thing the Giants ran into where corners were dropping left and right, and they have nobody left at this point.

42:18 That secondary is just ripe for the picking. So if CJ Stroud is out there and probably gets Nico Collins back, we think, he would be my top. But if not, Jacoby Brissett, because who does he face? Oh, the Giants secondary and what's left. And also Brian Burns just got lost for the season for a torn ACL. So that Giants defense went from week one being like, oh, wow, they might actually have something put together here too. They don't have anybody left at this point except for like the young players. So tight end, yeah, Kenyon Sadiq. The interesting thing was he wasn't quite 60% of the routes.

42:49 I mentioned week one that he was coming for Mason Taylor. And we definitely saw that happen. It really comes down to Adonai Mitchell. By the way, Fitz, Garrett Wilson concussion, he came back into the game. That's what it was. So he should be okay. But Adonai Mitchell with the thumb wrap or whatever it is, if Mitchell's back out there, I would caution, do not go bonkers on Sadiq. It's a lot of fun. He is a very talented rookie.

43:08 This is why they drafted him. But with Mitchell back on the field, you're going to get opportunities lost. So the ceiling will be fluctuating. If there is no Mitchell, I think he'd be in the tight end one fringe conversation. And then defenses, Cardinals, going back to that game against the Giants, Cardinals defense has shown flashes. They get Jameis Winston.

43:28 They get Jameis Winston with like that defense. They're not going to be able to probably keep the Cardinals off the field. And then I know you're picking on the commander's pass defense for very good reason, Fitz. But even so, against your streaming quarterback, that run defense, this is for the rank show, sneak preview. I was wrong about Jadarian Price, not only because coming back, he was in a time, well, committee, is I'm going to, Give some credit to that commander's run defense. That's why everybody's picking on their pass defenses because that's where you get them. So if they get after Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones not running in that game and you get some turnover potential, I think the commanders

44:01 are risky, but we are talking streaming defenses.

44:04 OK, that's going to lead us to the final set here, which is the top overall waivers for the week. So what I'd like is you guys give me your top five. And if you could throw a little fab number percentage, most of these guys you've talked about. And Jake, we'll let you kick it off here. So we've got your top two, which I think you've mentioned. It's Braylon Allen, Ollie Gordon. And I think you've mentioned the percentages were what was I forget now. So you try to live in the teens.

44:27 You're probably going to have to go 20 to 30 if you're needy on both of them. and maybe sneak through Jalen Wright. That didn't make the list, but would have. We'll get to number five. Number three for me is Chris Bell. I don't know. This is a weird one.

44:40 You know your league.

44:41 This is why I don't love Fab. I know we give it to everybody. It's like, you know your league better. As Fitz said, how low his rostership percentage is, you might be able to sneak him through for four, five, six bucks. But I know in my leagues, if he was still out there, I'd have to go 15%, 20% because it's a thinner waiver wire and I know people get excited and pay attention to rookies. So It comes down to that. I just try to live in the single digits. Sadiq, I think actually is going to have to go for more than Chris Bell because I think everybody's going to be excited about the rookie and the opportunities.

45:10 He would be fourth again, depending. If I knew Mitchell was out for four weeks, I would leapfrog Sadiq probably pushing number two on this list, depending if you need running back. And then lastly, Alvin Kamara, just because people need running backs.

45:24 Fitzy, your top five, Braylon Allen at the tippy top for you, but who else do you have? Almost exactly the same. Yeah, I think you guys are pretty dang close, and then throw those percentages back on.

45:33 Braylon Allen, 15% to 30%. Ollie Gordon from about, I don't know, 12% to maybe 22%, 23%. Kenyon Sadiq, I don't want to pay double digits. Goes seven to nine and also seven to nine for Jalen Wright.

45:49 That's pretty close. I could argue either way.

45:51 And Alvin Kamara finally at about, I don't know, five to eight bucks.

45:58 Okay.

45:58 So that's your general space.

45:59 Hey. Good news on the injury front before we get out of here. I don't expect them for week four, but I think this is at least promising. All the Coke has... He's questionable for week four. So there you go. So like maybe only misses like one week. We need some positivity before we get out of here. This is very injury heavy.

46:16 I mean, as it usually is.

46:18 All right, there you go.

46:18 That is the top five. All the positional streamers, everything in between should get you guys set for this coming week's waivers. But don't forget about our weekly waiver wire live stream. It's right here on the YouTube channel where you can come and ask your specific waiver wire questions. We're going to be with you Tuesday at 3 p.m.

46:34 Eastern.

46:35 So if you're listening on the podcast, go over to youtube.com slash fantasy pros. That's youtube.com slash fantasy pros. Subscribe, click the bell, get notified, come in and hang out. And you can talk a little bit more specifics as well. Going in on Tuesday, we might have in the next 24 hours, Even more information that you can clearly see we've caveated a lot of this stuff because there are things we just don't know. We don't know the extent of certain injuries which could play a role in it.

46:59 But you got the names. You can go make the moves, and hopefully that helped you out. For The Athletic Zone, Jake Seeley and Pat Fitzmaurice, I'm Chris Welsh. Good luck in your waivers this week, and we'll talk to you next time right here on Fantasy Pros.

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