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The Extra Point | Week 6 Fantasy Football Advice: Start/Sit Calls, Trade Targets & Players to Stash (Ep. 2253)

Samstag, 10. Oktober 2026 · 58 min

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Scott Bogman and Tera Roberts are answering your fantasy football questions with Week 6 lineup decisions looming. Should Jacoby Brissett start over Jalen Hurts? Can you trust Emmanuel Wilson, and how much would a Rhamondre Stevenson absence change TreVeyon Henderson's outlook?
They also tackle trade strategy for contenders and struggling teams, Michael Mayer's sleeper appeal and a massive dynasty offer involving CeeDee Lamb.
It's a full slate of start/sit, trade and roster questions pulled directly from the FantasyPros Discord.
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FantasyPros Discord -
Arizona vs Detroit -
Trade for Achane in a Rebuild? -
Ugly Flex Situation -
Kamara or Shipley -
Which Side of This Trade? -
Fix My TE Position -
Time To Be Aggressive with Trades? -
Jaylen Waddle and Tuten for James Cook? -
Polymarket -
Trevor Lawrence vs Drake Maye -
Darius Cooper or Jaylen Wright? -
Need Help at Running Back -
Trade Zay Flowers -
Trade Luther Burden? -
FantasyPros App -
Out on Jalen Hurts, Start Brissett Instead? -
How High is Jacoby Brissett Ranked? -
Start Allgeier this Week? -
Move on From Christian Watson? -
Nabers, Rhamondre & Montgomery for Jeanty and Corum? -
Trading Away Christian Watson -
4-0, Do I Set D'Andre Swift? -
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Welcome, everybody, to the Fantasy Pros Extra Point on Discord. I'm your host, Scott Bogman, joined by Tara Roberts. And today we're going to be answering questions from everybody on the Discord channel here. You know, people raise their hands, they ask questions to us on mic, and then we also answer them in the chat as well. So looking forward to another fun week of fantasy football and football in general. But let me tell you guys, if you're listening to the podcast right now, come join our Fantasy Pros Discord community. You can chat with other fans, get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed.

The current schedule as it stands right now, Worm and Fitz at 5 Eastern on the first Tuesday of every single month. Myself and Fitzy at 5 Eastern on the third Tuesday of every month. Welsh and Erickson normally today when we are doing this show, but they are both off today. So it is Bogman and Tara for you.

Come get your questions answered and be on the show at FantasyPros.com. All right, Tara, what are you looking forward to most this weekend?

I am looking forward to most Arizona versus Detroit because all games against Detroit are my happy place. I know that like the St. Tyler Chuck let us down a little bit in terms of fantasy production, but still. I mean, same general formula for these guys. It's just a lighted up scenario. And I love it that one, we're in a dome. Yay. So that's awesome because Arizona has been on the road. So I'm ready to see this show inside a dome and get some volume from Jacoby Brissett.

Yeah, I am. I'm pretty excited about that game as well. I got a couple prop bets on Michael Wilson. So yeah, that one's going to be a really fun one for sure. And I'm I just want to see Jamar Chase come back. I want to see Justin Jefferson come back. I just want to see some of these guys play. Unfortunately, it looks like no Lamar. So some Snoop Huntley action this weekend as well. And yeah, man, I'm just I am ready for the weekend. But let's see who has some questions for us. And Catalyst, you are up first. What do you have for us, my friend? Come on up. Hi, Bog.

Hi, Tara.

Thanks for having me on the show. So I'm sharing my rebuild on chat. And so as far as the picks go for next year, I'm pretty confident I'm going to get a one-on-one and I have a projected mid round and a late round. And I was seeing if there was some potential buy lows that I could do right now with the late pick. I was thinking mainly of, of the Miami running back. Oh God, I already forgot his name. But yeah.

Yeah.

Or if there's a potential other target, I could go with the late pick.

What are your thoughts to start us here, Tara? Is that something that you would do with knowing the incoming class is good or is this something where you want to hold those picks?

So we're definitely holding the one-on-one and holding the first, but I think you have the right idea in the mid one. Um, but the, the late one, I think you have the right idea in trying to ship that one off. I was thinking about it cause I too have a rebuild and I have a Chan and I'm, and I'm I'm not selling them because I'm at a rebuild, but yeah, if you've got the, uh, the, the person who rosters him in your league is competing. I think of a first is reasonable. You might have to, you might have to attempt it, add a little something in maybe, but I think that's a very good target.

Now, uh, those first, well, I guess I'll just put a couple names here together on this list. Herbert, Gentee, Olave. Would you be willing to give up that late first for any of those three in a super flex?

Oh, no, those are the guys I already have.

Oh, those are the guys you have. My bad.

Yeah.

OK.

Everything in chat is what I already have.

I was like, man, I think I would give up a first for, you know, Gentee right now if I could possibly get that. But that's your team.

My bad.

That's Herbert Brissett, Gentee, Olave, Lemon, Concepcion, Loveland and Pitts. So this class and we've talked about this on the Dynasty Discord a lot. This class is supposed to be insanely good specifically for Superflex. But having those three picks, I think that people are starting to overvalue the first round picks in 2027. So I think it's a good idea to see what you can get because people are now starting to overpay. So I'm with Tara. I think I would make some of those moves if you possibly can.

Anything else for us, Catalyst?

No, that's it.

I felt like that targeting a running back with the late pick is probably my best move, which is why I thought of a Chan. And then I could just use my early picks for obviously Jeremiah Smith and hopefully someone else. Maybe a Becker.

Yeah, I mean, that would be nice. I will say that I think that second pick like the first pick is definitely going to be Jeremiah Smith. I think that second pick is probably going to be a quarterback or you're going to be able to trade it. for something better than what's on the board. You know what I mean?

Because quarter there's going to be a decent amount of quarterbacks coming out here. So I think, you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't trade that second, that middle pick until I get to the draft and see what's on the board when I'm picking. So, uh, because it might be worth way more than the actual skill position players there. If it's like, you know, Jeremiah Smith and then six quarterbacks straight or something like that. So, but, Great idea on flipping that last one. That's how you turn picks into actual studs. So I really like this idea. Good work, Catalyst.

All right, let's see who is next up to talk to us here. Joe, what is going on? Joe, how we doing?

Good.

How you got?

Doing great. What do you got for us?

Yes, sir.

So I have a start or sit question for you guys for half PPR. I just need you to pick one. What do you guys think one for the best flex option would be? I have Emmanuel Wilson, Travion Henderson, Marshawn Lloyd, Debo Samuel, or Devontae Smith, if healthy.

I know that's a lot. Sorry.

I don't think Devontae Smith's going to play, so I think we can take him out. Give me the first two again. It was Emmanuel Wilson and who?

Emmanuel Wilson, Travion Henderson, and Debo Samuel.

Hmm. Tara, who are you looking at in half point between, I would say to me, this is between Wilson and Henderson.

Yeah, and it comes down to whatever is going on with Ramondre Stevenson. And hopefully by the end of today's practice report, we'll get a little bit more detail. I assume tomorrow we'll get that final choice. But as of right now, as long as we still have Henderson in the mix, I am leaning towards going with Emmanuel Wilson.

But if Ramondre Stevenson is out, He vaults ahead just because of pure volume, decent matchup with Vegas. Defense has been strong, but I mean, if the workload is purely on him, we've seen what he would do. So yes, I would put him solidly ahead of Wilson if Ramondre Stevenson is out.

Yeah, I agree 100%. This is exactly the correct take, in my opinion. Let's wait and see what happens with Ramondre. If Ramondre is in there, then it's Emmanuel Wilson. He looked great. last week, a lot of missed tackles forced, just more explosive plays than we've seen from Helani. Obviously, they decided not to go with Mixon, so Wilson is going to be the guy and have a lot of volume.

But like Tara said, if Stevenson is down, Henderson's value really does go through the roof, and the matchup's a little bit better. As well, going up against Vegas versus San Francisco, whose defense has been pretty strong to start the season. So, a little bit of a caveat, but I think I think Stevenson's going to play. So I think this will end up being Emmanuel Wilson for you, but we will hold that out. If Stevenson sits, uh, it's Henderson.

So.

Perfect.

And then, um, I just got one more thing, um, for my full point PPR league, I'm trying to figure out what would be the best RB two player, either Alvin Camara or will Shipley, but the fantasy pros app is suggesting me to start Camara over Shipley. And I just want to see what you guys think about, like if, the fantasy pro app is suggesting you to do something.

Do you guys more than likely, you know, just do what the app says, or do you kind of just, you know, base it off of what you kind of think yourself?

Yeah. I mean, they're so close, like an ECR for, uh, they're 29 and 31. In that case, I think I would probably in a PPR, actually, I'm looking at half PPR ECR. So let me flip over to PPR and see if there is a difference between, uh, Shipley.

Yeah.

And this one, Shipley is 25 and Kamara is 26. So Tara, what are your thoughts about Shipley versus Kamara as your RB2 in a PPR?

So problem is, is that both are in terrible, terrible matchups, right? And I get the reason why in full PPR, they're putting Shipley ahead because obviously Shipley does have solid and, you know, in terms of they'll be raising up, obviously, you know, Damian Pierce and Can he theoretically catch some passes? Sure, but probably not. Will Shipley's got that trust. So at the very least Shipley and Camara are similar in the sense of the fact that they will be the primary ones getting the check downs. But the difference is, is that I think that Camara's check downs are going, it's a much higher baseline level. So even in full PPR, I still lean towards Alvin Camara. Again, unfortunately, this is another point that is dealing with an injury. He kind of,

you know, got banged up a little bit with the knee. And left the game, came back in. So he's mispracticed on Wednesday. But again, but honestly, I think he mispracticed with a back injury. So maybe this is just kind of something that is just a little management and not a major issue. I would be more than willing to risk it as long as he's cleared by Friday and go with Alvin Kamara.

Yeah, I think. Perfect.

Thank you guys.

The difference for me is that Alvin Kamara scored twice last week, right? Like I just don't really, I don't buy into him as a guy that is going to stack yards for you. So I would say that Shipley with a full run and not being questionable probably has a higher floor, but the higher ceiling. And that's typically what we want from an RB two is Kamara because he scored twice. And I think if you get near the goal line, For Philly, it's just more likely going to be Jalen than it is Shipley. So that's why I would lean towards Alvin Kamara just slightly. So good question, Joe.

Thank you, my friend. Thank you. You got it. All right. We got Sully next. What's going on, Sully? How we doing?

Guys, how are you?

Doing great. What you got for us?

So I got kind of more of a trade question for you. I'm going to drop the team in the chat. So it makes it a little bit easier. So I had a manager offer me. It's a little background. It's 14-team full PPR league. A manager offered me Matthew Stafford, George Pickens, and Roman Dunzay sending to me. And then I would send them back Ollie Gordon and Zay Flowers.

I'm not trading Zay. There's no way. But I do need a little bit of quarterback help because Caleb is out and I'm starting Aaron Rodgers this week. So I was thinking, I just wanted your thoughts on maybe just sending Ollie Gordon kind of selling high and maybe grabbing Stafford.

As a low-end QB1.

What are your thoughts on, on that one, Tara, uh, trade away, Ollie Gordon and get Matthew Stafford.

Yeah, I'm 100% okay with that. I got scared at first.

You said, say it.

I was like, Oh, yeah, good. We're holding on to Zay upside is just too crazy. Hi, Gordon. Again, like as of right now, he is the RB one. I trust it, but it is a, it's a long season. So at any point we could continue to see this maybe become a hot hand situation. So to offload Gordon right now in order for you to secure a more stable option at quarterback is I think the right move for you for sure.

Yeah, I would, I guess I would ask like, what are the, are there any quarterbacks on waivers? But if there were, you probably wouldn't be starting Aaron Rogers. So, uh, yeah, I would say that this is a fair trade. You are selling high a little bit and Stafford, you're kind of buying low on Stafford dude is throwing a pick and every single game hasn't looked exactly like the guy we saw last year. So, yeah, I think for the way your team is structured, this is a fine deal.

Thanks, guys.

You got it, Sully. Appreciate you. We got Cornwallis up here. What's up, Cornwallis? What can we do for you?

So, I want to talk about tight end position. It's pretty bad. I'm looking at getting Mike Mayer, not for this week, I'm streaming just sicky, but like, I feel like Mike Mayer is kind of being slept on a little bit based on the fact that like the Raiders run 12 personnel time that they're willing to throw out a 12 personnel time and Brock Bowers is effectively their wide receiver one. So they're not being deployed the same way.

And I think that he's just going to make this offense better overall. So it might open more stuff up. So I just wanted to get your guys' take on that and see what you guys thought.

So who is, you would start Mayer over who? Well, not this week.

I'm trying to think. It's like Brenton Strange, Dalton Schultz, Gadsden, like all those guys who are between Chisiki this week and Mike Mayer.

I got you. What are your overarching thoughts on Michael Mayer, Tara? Are you in this camp as well where, hey, look, this guy's underrated. They don't have a true number one wideout. It's kind of Bowers. We know, obviously, the ball's going to Gentee first, and then Mayer is third in this offense, or do you think he's more of, sometimes third and sometimes fifth.

I honestly think he has a more solid floor than Trey Tucker. Obviously, Tucker would have the higher ceiling, but really and truly, yeah, I think he leans more towards the third. It's ironic because when we needed him as the starter and he was the actual starter, he did not put up the numbers. But again, you mentioned the amount of times that he's on the field. And this was something that the Raiders talked about during the offseason, the coaching staff. They were very clear that their intention was to utilize Michael Mayer on the field at the same time as Brock Bauer. So I don't think it's an anomaly. This is something that they want to do moving forward. And it has been working out pretty well.

I too, I'm surprised that he hasn't been for my roof further up in ECR. He's at what? Tight end 26 now in ECR and looking at the guys ahead of it. I mean, it just, you got Greg Dolce, guys like Greg Dolce and, Brenton Strange, an unreliable Kyle Pitts, a Rondé Gadsden, which I totally get, but the same opportunity is there for Mayer, and the offense is functioning better, and he's seeing more consistent targets. So, yeah, I think he's a very interesting stash in deeper leagues.

And to your point, Cornwallis, I just pulled a PFF here, and I'm looking at routes run by tight ends. Mayer is eighth. He's ahead of Fryermuth, Ferguson, Loveland, Kelsey, Kraft, Likely, Kosicki, Hawkinson, Waller. Uh, Barner, Evan Ingram, Brenton strange, uh, he's ahead of, so he has run way more routes. Now as route percentage is lower than some of those guys, but it's still higher than Loveland. It's higher than Hunter Henry. It's higher than TJ Hawkinson. So yeah, I, I think this is a very smart grab and stash. It's a good way to look at things here as well. And I think, and I agree, I think that him being at 26 for this week is probably a too low, maybe a little bit matchup-based because New England's defense is historically good. But

I would take him over like Pitts and Gadsden and Otten and Barner and maybe even Pat Frymouth. These guys just aren't doing a lot right now. So I'm with you. I think it's a great point to make, Cornwallis. You got anything else for us today?

I guess a quick question since I didn't realize there was a Ramondre Stevenson issue. If Ramondre's out, would you play Denzel Boston or Henderson?

I mean, if Stevenson is out, I'm going Henderson just because the volume makes the floor so high and his burst makes his ceiling so high. But, you know, I really do like playing Denzel Boston and I have Boston in a lot of my lineups this week. So it's not by like a super surprisingly high margin, but everything that Tara said earlier in the show, I think just sticks out when there's no Stevenson. You agree with that, right, Tara?

Yeah, 100%.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it's Henderson in that scenario, if there is no Stevenson. So appreciate you, Cornwallis. Good questions, my friend. And a great point to make on Michael Mayer there. So very, very, very good point.

Let's see.

Next is really him. Man, I need better glasses. This purple, this purple, I cannot read. What's going on?

Can you guys hear me?

We got you. What do you got for us?

So I have a super flex team that started 0-8. We play against a league median every week. I haven't scored above 100 points one time, except for this last week where I had TET score 43 for me, and I barely cleared 100. So do I red alert panic and start trading TET and Bayshall as my only two valuable options, or do I stand pat and wait for Caleb to come back and maybe just try.

To play waivers?

I was, so I'm sorry. What's your record? Oh, an eight.

Oh, is it a redraft or dynasty?

It's a redraft redraft.

Okay.

Yeah. I'd probably panic. I'd probably start making moves if I'm oh, an eight to start, you know, one for twos, a lot of that trade, Ted McMillan after this big game. I mean, uh, I guess you do get to make up more games if you're playing two every single week. Uh, but, I don't know, like starting 0-8 just feels rough. I know it's the equivalent of starting 0-4, but I don't know.

What are your thoughts here, Tara? I think in an 0-8, 0-4 scenario, I'm probably hitting the panic alarm.

Yeah, need to start selling off, unfortunately. I mean, there could be value in Tucker Craft as well that you could maybe do if you've got some people out there in your league that are struggling. We got Tucker Craft off the big game. clear volume in that offense is not going to stop Jordan love. Um, it's going to be pushing 300 yards on a very regular basis with the way that defense looks. So yeah, I would start a little fire sale there with McMillan and Tucker craft off of the high games. And yeah, you're right. You're going to have to do two for ones you're looking for.

You don't need the superstars. You need more volume so that you don't have to start guys like Dante Haymix or even Marvin Harrison, Jr. Jordan Addison.

Yeah, that's, That's a, you've had, you've had a tough start here. So, but I think don't accept any trade. It's gotta, it's gotta make your, to me, when you're in this scenario, you have to make a trade that makes your starting lineup better overall. So if you're downgrading from base shell to, and you need to be adding a wide receiver to right, make sure that that running back is okay, but the wide receiver has to be better than Wicks or bell like that. That's how I would say that. Same thing for trading Tet. Like, You can take the step down from Tet to a different wide receiver, but whoever you get back also has to be better than Wick. So the two need to be better than your two. And that usually will make the

other roster better because they're getting a starter and, you know, moving a bench piece. So it's hard to do this, but it's possible. And I think with an 0-8 record, you probably need to start firing on it. So anything else for us?

No, that's about it.

Thanks, man.

You got it. Appreciate you. Take it easy. Let's see who is next here. We got Grand Lake Rocks. What's going on, Grand Lake? How we doing today?

Doing good. Yourselves?

How's it going today?

Awesome.

Awesome.

What you got for us?

All right. So I am in a 14-team full PPR league. With the bye weeks coming up right now, we're starting to see some actual quality players because it's only three bench slots being kind of dropped with all the injuries and whatnot going on. So we actually have... Guys like Travis Achan, Echan, I don't know how you pronounce it anymore.

Achan, yeah.

Yeah, Achan.

Jalen Warren got dropped, but I'm 4-0, so I'm not going to be able to get him, basically. But I'm looking to just try to upgrade with everything going on. And so, you know, I've been trying to get the the gentee owner to bite on something they're owing for. But would you do something like Jalen Waddle and Tudin maybe for James Cook? Cause you can go and get, uh, you know, ETN on waivers probably with the IR squad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That, that is.

So I love this type of short bench league where people start to panic and, uh, and throw out some good players. I'm, I'm in a big money league that that's like that with one of my, my friends, uh, It's hard knowing when to buy because that's also no fab. It's like a waiver priority thing. So if you pick somebody up, you go to the bottom. Trades in these type of leagues with good players on the wire are some of my favorites to do because you can do that where you trade two guys for one, but it's never really two guys for one. It's the two guys you move, you get the one good one back, and you get somebody for free off the wire. So free in most cases, I would say. So what are your thoughts on this, Tara?

Yeah, I 100% agree with you. I'm fine with that combination for Cook. I would also, you know, tell you, you have the ability to also try and shop around Aaron Jones in combination with Waddle as well. Just don't settle for, you know, getting rid of Tootin just because long-term I would rather have Tootin on roster than Aaron Jones.

And I think Aaron Jones is in a little better buy high position and maybe you can sneak one over on somebody that's panicking because at some point Jordan Mason is going.

To be out.

So my favorite combo is, would be Aaron Jones and Jalen Waddle, but I don't mind the Aaron Jones and facial.

Tootin' one.

I agree.

Awesome, yeah.

Yeah, that's it for me. Thank you guys so much.

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I've got two questions here.

One is in a 10-man standard league. One of my league mates, I guess, a panic drop Drake made last week before they beat the Bills, so I picked him up. So I have him and Trevor Lawrence, and I'm wondering who should I start this week. Looks like they're back-to-back ECR and... My thing with Trevor is every other week he plays okay, and then the other week he plays really good.

So I'm trying to decide which one to start this week.

What's your thought there, Tara? Drake May versus Trevor Lawrence. And like Buck said here, they are back-to-back in ECR. I guess they're not. It's Trevor Lawrence at 6 and Drake May is at 8. But they are close. They're both QB1s. Are you Lawrence versus Philly or May against the Raiders?

I am trusting Lawrence a little bit more because there's a lot going on with Philly, right? The defense hasn't been as strong as it's been in the past. Some odd performances from the secondary. And then, of course, we got the struggles on offense. We don't know if we're getting Devante Smith back, no Saquon. So perhaps some more struggles on offense create more opportunities for the Jags offense to be on the field where this Philadelphia defense down.

So overall, once we get through the entire game, Trevor Lawrence comes out on top and they're just so deep at receiver. So yeah, I mean, Lawrence hasn't been pushing aggressive volume and like for anyone just like, don't panic on that.

Right.

Because they're in the difficult part of their schedule. Once we get back from their bi-week, I mean, it's just lay up after lay up, after lay up in terms of fantastic matchups. So The higher volume days are ahead. So I don't know in this matchup, we're still going to get Trevor Lawrence going over 30 attempts, but he's been so efficient. I'm okay with leaning into him as the safer option.

Yeah, I would say Trevor Lawrence is definitely safer, but this is the London game. Anything to that? Or is it just saying, look, the Jaguars, that's basically a home game for them. They've done it so many times.

Yeah, they're very experienced at it. So, I mean, I know things can go very sideways. Lord, last week, sideways with these international games. But I do trust them as a team a little bit more, and I'm still okay with it. So, yeah, international game not deterring me too much from Trevor Lawrence.

Yeah, I think I have made one spot ahead of Lawrence this week, but it's not like this is such a coin flip. And all the things that you said about Philly apply. And it's not just about, you know, Trevor Lawrence having a good game against this defense. It's also like, how long is Philly's offense going to hold the ball? They're down three offensive linemen, their best wide receiver, their best running back, right? Trevor Lawrence is going to hold the ball a lot, and that can make the passing volume go up as well. So I'll co-sign on this.

I do have May slightly higher just because I'm excited about how good he looked last week, but I'm fine rolling Lawrence. Lawrence definitely gives you the higher floor, in my opinion, as well.

So.

If you're looking for floor, to me, it's definitely Lawrence. But if you need to play the upside, if you have bi-week issues or injuries or stuff like that, for ceiling, I would start May. So that's how I would break it down. Anything else for us, Buck?

Yeah, one more question. So this one's in a different league.

It's a 14-man half PPR league, and I'm struggling with some injuries.

So my flex position, I have.

Darius Cooper or Jalen Wright as a flex.

Yeah.

What do you think on that one, Tara? Darius Cooper versus Jalen Wright. I'll tell you what, for a 14-man as your last flex spot, not the worst. And I'm playing in 16-mans too, so I have made much more gross decisions than this one.

I'm the same.

I think it probably has to be Cooper right now, right? Or would you go with volume for Jalen Wright, Tara?

No, I would go with Cooper. And oddly enough, I probably feel more comfortable with it than I should. Again, this is for deeper leagues, right? But I feel more comfortable with it because of what we saw last week. And, you know, hey, perhaps Philadelphia decides that they want to make some offensive vision changes because it didn't quite work last week. But my gut tells me that they stick with the same concept that they had of, they're not really adjusting a Kyle lemon roll and pushing him to the outside. They're not tilting more volume to Don Tavian wicks.

They're just doing a replacement of we're shoving Cooper in there and we're rolling with this offense as we use it on a weekly basis. So that does give him a certain baseline of targets and he seems to have for the end zone. So that's cool. So if he's getting those looks, they don't have a reliable, consistent tight end.

I know, you know, we're still waiting to see, you know, Zachary's get up to speed and whatnot, but, Yeah. I think maybe he's that bigger presence in the red zone and touchdown dependent, but those touchdowns are going to be there, especially because we expect Jacksonville to be able to push the ball while still on this defense. So I'm okay with going with Cooper rather than right. Just risking the, this being the Ollie Gordon show, because he's got the hot hand coming into the game.

What if, what if you threw Cody white into this wrench, uh, the Cody white wrench in here, when you start Cody white over Darius Cooper.

I think I'd still lean towards Cooper.

I think so, too, with all the injuries that they have right now. I think I would roll with Cooper as well. But I just ask that question because Scott Bogman may have an issue where he has to start Cody White in the league. But I think Cooper's on the wire there, too. I'm like, man, this is where we're at. But good question here. I like the deep questions, Bucks, man.

Good stuff there. Appreciate you, my friend. You got it. Let's see who is up next. Buzzard. What is going on, Buzzard? What can we do for you today, my friend?

How's it going, you guys?

Can you guys hear me?

We got you. I love this picture with the orange cat, too, by the way.

Thank you.

I'm dropping my team in the chat.

I need help at running back.

I want to see, like, is there anything you guys would do to help me upgrade at running back? Because I'm in dire need.

Let's see. We got Bucky, Coram, Lamb, Evans, Kittle, Zay, Santos. And then what's the bench here? We got Barkley. It was hurt. John Johnson, McKay, Lemon, Shipley, Hill, Brooks, and Tyson. So it's injuries here. I mean, I do think Barkley is going to be back next week. So I think you'll be okay. But with this squad, it would probably be dealing. If you do want to upgrade an RB spot, it's probably dealing from your wide receiver depth. Right, Tara?

Yeah, I agree with that one. I mean, ultimately long-term your team should play out well, but moving on from, yeah, just trying to make sure that you're, you have the ability to start someone other than Blake Corum because the volume has just dipped to no consistency for him. to help get you by for right now while Barkley is out.

Cause hopefully next week, but you know, uh, but you've also got Will Shipley on there. So you know what, this is more of a shop at around kind of situation because technically speaking, you can just roll with Shipley this week with Bucky Irving. If you want to go that direction and uncomfortable with Coram's floor being a little bit low and then shop around the wide receivers. Mike Evans still has good trade value, um, because of perception of him. And he has the clear wide receiver one of that team, um, But it's not the worst thing in the world to move off of him because we do know that he is, you know, older, continually getting banged up and he's gutting through it. But we worry about these injuries, you know, that keep plaguing him. So

perhaps it's a nice sell situation for you to get back a decent running back that you can actually run.

All right.

Sounds good. I appreciate you guys.

You got it. Now, Tara, let me ask you this off of this question. Would now be a good time in a scenario like this? to possibly trade Zay Flowers. He's got Lamb. He's got Evans. I don't particularly want to trade Zay Flowers, but his value is very high right now. And Lamar is starting to deal with these injuries again this season. So is this maybe the time to start looking, you know, or at least floating the idea of trading Zay Flowers just to see what type of offers you would get?

I love Zay so much, but I think it is worth it. I've been enjoying the Fantasy Post trade market values because that allows you to get like a direct one-for-one look at the value of a receiver like Zay Flowers. I mean, he's got clear top 10 value right now. So you are trading him at a high and he can yield you an actual RB1 depending on what route you wanted to go. I mean, it might be shooting a little bit, but considering the true upside that Zay has, you could go for a gentee. So he is going to yield you an RB one. So if you want to go that route and you feel comfortable rolling with your wide receivers, because you're super safe with CD and you would rather just make that transition to get you

a clear RB one. Zay is a reasonable ad to really get you into that chase Brown and above range of running backs.

Yeah.

Chase Brown is kind of the example I was thinking of. I think that's probably, I mean, if you could get gentee, I would do that all day. That's just like so many touches, so much floor for Gentee. But Chase Brown, I think, is looked down at right now because he just hasn't put up big numbers quite yet. And he's still a really good running back and still kind of the solo running back there.

Right.

Like I know they use Ryan, too, but he's the he's the volume king there for sure. Austin, you are up next, my friend. What do you got for us, Austin?

So in my super flex dynasty, I just threw my team in the chat. I was offered, I would trade CD lamb for Luther burden and three first round picks. Two of those first round picks would be late this year though. I was wondering if you think that would be enough because I have like no running back depth right now. And I have a pretty good team, but like, I don't have a ton of depth just in general.

I was wondering if you think like is burden plus the three first enough, or do you think I should be asking for more? Or do you think with this team, I should just hold on to lamb?

Man, I think. I think burden in three firsts is enough, and I'm not one. I'm not one to trade a guy like Lamb when he's doing this stuff, specifically if I think I can win. But I see your point about you like your second running back spot is in question now because Etchen is hurt. Quorum's not getting volume.

Hampton is split between two other guys right now. but the rest of your wide receivers are still really good. Nico Pickens, Ladd, Terry, and you're going to add Burden back into that group and you get three first round picks back. Tara, I just think this is almost, this is a godfather trade, right? Like this is one that you want to say no to because Lamb's your best player, but it's too good to refuse.

Yeah, and I knew you were going to say yes when I heard those picks. I'm like, he is definitely going to say yes on this one because again, I mean, yeah, we've still got a long way to go. in season and obviously the classes can flip on a dime, but we do feel really, really good about this wide receiver class.

So that many firsts, is it going to yield you a CD lamb specific? I mean, obviously we don't know what it could be. Could it, it could be a CD lamb, maybe not, but at the same time, that's a lot. So I could absolutely move on that. I think you've got the right idea for sure, because you know, as, as Boggs mentioned, you're just very deep at wide receiver and, in terms of guys who are having down years right now, like Ladd, but still have the potential to yield value in the future.

And Austin, do you still have your first round pick for 27 as well? So you'd have three 27 firsts?

Yeah, I have my first round pick, but I don't have my second or third. So I don't have another pick until the fourth if I don't do this trade.

Okay. I mean, but also what this could do is this could, you could take two of these picks and potentially move up. to get a guy that you want, a running back that's coming out, maybe to shore that up, a wide receiver. Maybe you're picking three with your pick, and you could take the other two and move up to get Jeremiah Smith. So I think just getting those picks also gives you a lot of flexibility in what you want to do with this roster, which is probably add a little more depth to quarterback because behind me it's Daniels, who's obviously injury-prone, Penix, who's had injury issues, and Kyler, who is not working out in Minnesota yet.

So I just think that this trade gives your roster a lot of flexibility. You're trading the best player on your roster, which is always hard to do. But I think it gives you so much flexibility moving forward for this roster. I think it's that godfather deal that you kind of have to say yes to. So I would definitely do this trade.

I was thinking the same thing.

And with the way Odunze hasn't looked that great, I feel like there's a chance that burden ends up being the number one in Chicago also.

So it definitely could be, I think they're both still going to be good. I mean, we've seen them with, you know, what is it? Two games of Caleb Williams here and then backups. So, you know, I think there's still like Odunze can still rise to the top, but I think both those guys are going to be valuable and Loveland. So I just like every piece of this bears offense. So Yeah, I'm pulling the trigger on that one for sure. So thanks, Austin. Great, great, great trade you got offered and good discussion you brought to the show today. Appreciate you, my friend. Before we move on here, I do have to tell you that you can manage all of your teams wherever you go with Fantasy Pro with the Fantasy Pros free app. Get expert start set advice,

find the best waiver ads and available players in every single league and manage all your teams online. from one convenient view. You can even set your best lineups automatically with autopilot. Download the free Fantasy Pros app today at fantasypros.com slash apps. That's fantasypros.com slash apps. All right, we got about 20 more minutes. We got three people with their hands raised. So we'll answer these questions and then get to anything we can in the chat at the end.

So let's see who is up next. It is Steven. What's going on, Steven? What can we do for you, my friend?

I am just having some questions cause I am fine. I think I am out on, on Jalen hurts and I want to make sure I'm not crazy for actually starting Jacoby Brissett. The Eagles have like one of the worst, I think it's like their EPA per plays 31st on offense or something like that. Something atrocious. I think the only team that's worked in them is the bucks. Am I crazy for saying I want a piece of this Arizona Cardinals offense?

I have Brissett at seven this week and I have Jalen hurts at 12 at quarterback. So The matchup is just too good. It's the first thing Tara brought up when I asked her what she's looking forward to this weekend, right? Is watching this Lions and Cardinals game. Oh, sorry.

I jumped onto the show late, so I definitely missed that part.

No, no, no.

I was handing that to Tara. My bad. I wasn't scolding you. I was not scolding you, I promise. That was a.

Handoff to Tara.

Well, since you guys did already cover that, I do have a second question if we wanted to cover that instead.

Please, please. Yeah, go ahead. Of course.

So I have the best running back in football as my RB1, not the best fantasy football running back, but the best running back in football, Bijan Robinson. And I've got a bunch of others as my RB2. And I'm debating whether I should start Emmanuel Wilson, who had a great week last week, Ali Gordon, Omari and Hampton, and unfortunately drafted him super high, David Montgomery.

Oh, man. Uh, lay, lay him out one more time. Give us all four real quick. Of course.

Of course. David Montgomery, Emmanuel Wilson, Ollie Gordon, O'Marion Hampton.

Who, who is solid? We're picking one, correct? Just one.

Yes.

Picking one to start next to Bijan.

All right. Uh, Tara, who do you have out of that group?

It is Emmanuel Wilson for me. I'm going with the guy with the guaranteed volume in the best offense, um, between that grouping. I know that, you know, maybe the matchup with San Francisco makes it like a little bit closer, but, and you know, when we're looking at a guy like David Montgomery, you can make the argument saying, okay, Hey, we've got a matchup against Tennessee. It's generally been a matchup where Houston should finally be on the right side of a game script to be playing from ahead. And then they can, yeah, hopefully, and then they can run the ball with David Montgomery. Maybe we'll get back to that week one version, but I can't, I just can't take that risk when you have an Emmanuel Wilson that

is more than likely going to beating a solid 15 plus and could hit that 20 range again the only thing that could maybe hurt him is you know San Francisco's offense is so strong that it can make it, you know, maybe the game script flips, but even then, so we did see an uptick in check down usage from him as well. So they, they like him and this is where it should have been for the first couple of weeks in terms of using Emmanuel Wilson. So it's, it's Wilson that I trust the most of that group.

Yeah.

And looking at ECR, uh, we got Wilson at 17, David Montgomery at 23, Ollie at 25 and Hampton at 26. And I'm, I'm pretty similar. I believe I have Wilson at 18. I have Hampton at 21. I have Montgomery at 24 and Ollie at 25. So I do think Dave Montgomery could have a bounce back, but I just don't know how, like it's been three weeks in a row.

He's been terrible. Awesome week one and three awful weeks in a row. I don't know how it can't be Emmanuel Wilson out of this group.

Well, and like kind of to your point, They dropped his touches by nearly half. He had 20 in week one, and I think last week he had, what, 10?

Something like that. Yeah, that's the game script stuff Tara was talking about, too, where it's like, you should have this lead. So if you're beating Tennessee, who is bad, and you have this lead, you should be able to turn around and hand the ball off to Montgomery to beat them up and wear them down for the second half.

But the way the defense has been playing, cj shroud had one of his best offensive games in the regular season ever last week so it shouldn't be like this with that defense but the defense has been miserable so i don't know if tennessee is going to put it together against them but everybody else has so it's just very surprising the way things have gone in houston so far so yeah i think we're both on uh emmanuel wilson out of that group you got anything else for us steven No, perfect.

I appreciate you guys. That's who I had in, and I wanted to make sure I was in the right thing. So I appreciate both of you guys. Have a great rest of your day.

You got it. Thank you. And Tara, just to make sure, on your quarterback rankings, how high is Brissette this week for you?

You're slightly higher, um, which is probably putting me to shame. It's that tells me that I need to adjust and get up. I'm just like giving like a slight deference to Drake may still off of the big game. So yeah, I've got him at, at nine right now, but honestly, I realized that I, you know, probably just need to go ahead and bite the bullet and move him up to where he should be his rightful place.

Yes.

And it's funny. Jalen is Jalen's fallen back to 16 in ECR.

I didn't realize he was that low. Like I still do think that if they get near the goal line, he can score a couple rushing touchdowns specifically with Barkley out, but how are they getting there against Jacksonville? Right. I think that's the question. And it is a weird early London start for Philly. Who's not used to this. Like the Jaguars are, and it's basically going to be a Jacksonville home game, even though it's an international territory. And I know it's technically a Jags home game anyway, but they're just there. So often people get behind them. So, Uh, yeah.

Great questions there. Uh, appreciate you, Steven. Uh, Ronan, you're up next, my friend. What do you got for us, Ronan?

How are you all doing?

Great.

Uh, two quick, or two questions, really. The first one's about this week. Trying to find a person for my last flex spot. Got like Algier, Cooper, Shipley, JCM. I mean, who's, who's the person to go with this week, you think?

So, Algier, Shipley, and Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt. Who are you picking between those three, Tara?

Uh, It is in an ideal world, JCM. I know again, you know, he's was listed with a groin injury. We'll we'll see. Obviously things have not been super effective for him. Although last week was just a strange situation. And I think we should get him back up a little bit higher in carries. Last week was low nine carries. And obviously the, in the addition of Austin Eckler is maybe making us panic a little bit, but JCM should still have the bulk of the workload on the ground. in a much better matchup against the giants. So I would still lean JCM just for overall better team environment, especially with Jane Daniels.

Back, man. I just can't do it. I, I think I'm low ranker on JCM this week. Overall, I am at 37. I do have Algier at 35 against Detroit whose defense has just been bad. And I have Will Shipley at 31 against Shaxsville just because there's no other running backs there. I think it's Jaden blue. is behind Will Shipley right now. So there's just not a lot on the roster behind him. So I just think for volume for me, it'll be Shipley. I just, JCM being questionable, maybe Rashad White back. I just don't trust Shane Daniels at all to stay healthy either. So I'm slightly on Shipley.

So I don't know if we're giving you much help here.

So That's okay. That's kind of the coin flip I was with, too. What about Darius Cooper you were talking about earlier? Would you start him over any of those two?

No, I think the volume for all three of those guys is just way better than Darius Cooper. I know Cooper scored a couple times, but I think out of this group, I would say Algiers is probably the most likely to score out of these guys because that's a really high total game between Detroit and Arizona. And Jeremiah Love's not 100%. So this is a good question because the margins are razor thin here. So Corey Kroski-Merritt is probably in the best matchup, as Tara mentioned. I think Tyler Algier is most likely to score. And Will Shipley is probably going to have the best volume. So it is, we are messing with really tiny margins here. So I would lean towards Shipley. You know, whoever your gut says,

I think that's probably who you should play. So if you have like, gut feeling one way or the other, the margins are so thin. I would just go with your gut.

No, let me add this.

Please.

Sorry. We had this in as well. Um, with the Jeremiah love injury, if he is cleared off of the plaque, uh, the injury report off after the Friday practice, I kind of have a little theory based on what Jeremiah love was saying in terms of how they're managing his workload is they're trying to help him not get overworked and dealing with this ankle injury. We're seeing highs and lows, right?

High performance, touches come down. High performance, touches come down. So if we see him cleared by tomorrow and they're really just limiting and resting him and managing the carries, perhaps we get a workload increase that would make Tyler Algier less ideal. But if he's still questionable heading into the weekend, then that would be enough for me to bump Algier up and lean more into him.

Okay. I love that. I love how you thought that out as well. That's it's really good stuff, Tara. Cause I have not been paying attention to that, that strong. So that is, that is really good info there. Just lowering that practice level after the big games and then removing the injury report means he's probably going to have a little bit more. So good stuff there for sure.

You got anything else for us, Ronan?

Yeah.

In the, yeah.

In the chat, I put my, my roster in there. I'm five and three. I've lost the last two games in some injuries. My question to you is I've seen a lot of my players on the maybe sell or trade blocks like Waddle and Watson, Smith and Swift even. Is there anybody on that roster right there that you think we need to start getting moved, whether that be Devontae Smith on a sinking team or something like that?

I don't, I don't know that I have like a great feeling about moving anyone here on this roster. Tara, when you look at this, tell us about Christian Watson. You're the Packers fan here is Christian Watson, a guy that we should be moving on from at this point.

I don't want to right after the down game, just because there's so much negative associated with the Packers offensive line and with Jordan love. So coming, I mean, the vault, the value is still high. But I worry perception might be just a tiny bit low. So this is not the most ideal time to sell him. But ironically, maybe shop around Jalen Waddell with the news of Sean Payton taking over play calling. That might read as a super positive big change and maybe make someone want to get overzealous and overpay for him. So maybe that's the direction.

But honestly, overall, I love your wide receiver core. Last week was just a down week. Tampa Bay is not an ideal matchup. We are going to continue to see Jordan Love pushing volume. So you've got high volume assets there in Olave and Watson. Hopefully Philadelphia can figure things out, but at least we know that Smith is the wide receiver one. And then there's ascending Denzel Boston, who is just a few good matchups away from becoming a weekly wide receiver too. So yeah, there's a lot of promise here.

You're deep at receiver. So you can move one, but just know it's a good group.

I think so too. And like Tara said, if you are floating some of these guys, Denzel Boston might bring you back a little more than expected right now. He might bring you back nothing, but he's the guy that might, it might be nice to float specifically if he has a good week this week and just see what type of offers are coming back to you. So good stuff, Ronan.

That's everything. Yeah, that's everything.

Appreciate it.

You got it, my friend.

Appreciate what y'all do.

Thank you. Appreciate you. Let's see who is next here. chinser what is going on chinser how we doing my friend we.

Are doing great look at you guys stepping up in the absence of welsh and.

Erickson yeah we figured y'all wanted a good show this time so.

Yeah finally that's why everybody's back.

That's right that's right what do you got for us my friend Two questions.

One, I made a trade in a 14-team full PPR league where I had to start two running backs. My running backs were awful. So I probably gave up a little too much. I gave up neighbors, David Montgomery and Ramondre, and I got back Gentee and then just Blake Corum.

What do you guys think about that?

Give it to me one more time.

So I gave away neighbors. remandre and and monty and then i got back genti and quorum.

Yeah probably an overpay who's your who's the other running back you'll start with genti moving forward.

It's either quorum or it's going to be bill the reason i gave it up is because i had remandre and you know remandre just had a good week but monty's been since week one almost a nothing and then my wide receivers are puka save flowers and christian watson so i was like well I value neighbors the least here, so I got to get something reliable in the RB1 spot and hopefully RB2 will just show up off the waiver wire. I can plug and play until then.

What are your thoughts on this trade, Tara?

I mean, I do think it's an overpay, but over time it won't be just because I think we're right at the I'm on the side of thinking that. We're not going to see a major change in David Montgomery and this split that we're seeing between him and Woody Marks is going to continue through the end of time. And maybe it'll pop up and be good and productive and good matchups. But for the most part, I don't want any piece of this backfield. So while it may be an overpay on paper right now, it probably will work out for you at the end of the day because Ramon Dre's volume is unreliable for a weekly basis.

And there's just such a capped ceiling more than likely with Monty. So ultimately, pivoting to Jenty will work out for you. You just got to figure out who that RB2 is.

But you're right.

You know, guys pop up. So guys get injured and guys pop up.

Yeah. Dealing from the depth that you had was a good thing to do. And you also dealt like the wide receiver who might be the most injury prone out of this group as well with Malik neighbors. So, yeah, I think overpay probably works. but for the structure of your roster, probably better in the long run, as Tara mentioned.

Right, and I will say I'm in two 14-team leagues, and it is almost impossible to trade for running backs in those leagues with how scarce they are. Especially with the market right now, everybody keeps going down, so I can't believe I was able to get it off. Anyway, other ones in Dynasty, I'm in full rebuild. My only pieces worth anything are Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and Bowers, and then Christian Watson. And so I put Christian Watson on the market and I have somebody who's interested and I have a five first round picks for this next draft.

Ooh, nice.

And I, he already have his first for 27. And so I was wondering on the thoughts of like, I don't know what I would even do. Like my first thought was like maybe a second for this year's draft from him. And then maybe his first next year. I mean, that might even be a little steep. I don't even, I don't know if he would do it, but what do you think on like the idea of like trading like, a player to someone who's first pick you already have and making their team a little bit better and potentially hurting your draft capital, even if you're acquiring more.

Um, yeah, it's, it's a good point to think of, but I think it's so far down the list that is not something I take into consideration as much, right? Because this guy's already good. If he's trading you his first round pick, he's probably traded other picks. I bet this roster is probably good. And if he doesn't get the wide receiver he wants from you, he'll probably just go get it from somebody else. So I don't know that I would think about it in terms of impacting your team in the long run of you're hurting yourself by doing this trade because he's probably going to hurt you by doing the trade with somebody else anyway. So if you think that the trade benefits you overall in– you know, just within the trade, I would probably still

end up doing it. Tara, do you have any different thoughts in those terms?

Yeah, I agree with you on that one, especially because the first would be so far out that, you know, you never know what could go sideways. So ultimately, it might not even matter that you're making his team better. If you can manage to get the first and the second, I think I would make that move.

Yeah, if you can get the first and the second, definitely do that deal. I just don't think you would. Tara, would you trade Watson for a 28 first straight up?

Oh, I need to feel a lot more comfortable about where it was going to be because we're talking about locked in contract, right?

Yep.

Wide receiver one, probably a team that has zero interest in investing in another wide receiver. So this receiving core is what it is. They're going to be, they're going to be drafting linemen. So yeah, he's very safe, very, very safe in terms of his longevity. So I would need assurance that it's not going to be a very late first.

And there's no way to know that. Yeah.

So it feels, yeah. So I would need that second as well.

Okay.

Yeah.

Then there's, there's two juggernauts in this league, but I mean, he's right there in that next tier of teams, like probably in that five to third best team range.

So you're trying to get up there and he's, he's gonna, like, like I said before, he's going to make it happen one way or the other. So if you think, if you can get that second first, I'm pulling the.

Trigger on that.

I just, I do think that's an overpay. I don't know that they'll do it, but that's one of those auto-takes if I can do it.

Maybe the world of fantasy football will balance out for my one overpay in the other league comes an overpay on his side for this league.

That's all I got.

Thanks, guys.

Thank you, Chintzer. It all seems to work out in the end, right? You reap what you sow is what it is for the most part. Oro, you will be our last question of the day here, my friend. What do you have for us?

Hey, guys.

Can you hear me?

We got you.

Yes.

Awesome.

I'm in a 10-man full PPR league.

The only one that's 4-0, so feeling great about.

That so far.

I got a quick start or sit question for you.

I need a running back and I need a flex.

I have Braylon Allen, DeAndre Swift, and Christian Watson.

Wanted to hear your guys' input on that.

And we're starting two of these? Yeah.

I need a running back position and then a flex.

Yeah, I need two of them.

Which two are you going with Tara?

I still feel very good about Deandre Swift for running back. Um, I know that last week was a bummer, but you know, as we've seen with, you know, multiple, I mean, Ramondre Steven is Stevenson is the perfect example. Punishment for fumbles usually is a game punishment. It doesn't extend into the next week. So in Swift and Menungai are both dealing with injuries. So we'll have to see what that shakes out. as, but Swift is my preference in terms of running back.

And then Watson would be the flex.

Same.

Yeah.

Uh, no argument here. So I'm on that as well. So we're rolling Swift and Watson for you. Oro, you got anything else for us?

No, that was it.

Appreciate your guys' input.

Thank you, my friend. Uh, take it easy. And that is going to wrap it up for us. We appreciate everyone hanging out and asking your questions and, uh, We did it. No Thursday night questions, which was the one rule that I was told over and over that we couldn't have. So thank you, everyone, for all of your great questions. We got some really good discussion out of this as well. And that's going to wrap it up for us. And I believe Welsh and Erickson will be back here next week for you guys. So you'll be back to your normal programming. But hopefully you enjoyed myself and my friend Tara Roberts. And we will be live on Sunday. wrapping up the week as well. So come check us out there with Dr. Deepak to go over

the injuries. And that is it for us today. And we will see you guys on Sunday. Take it easy, everybody. Thanks for listening to.

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