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I Am All In with Scott Patterson

I Am All In…Again: Hard to Shake Your First Love (Season 4 E17 “Girls in Bikini’s, Boys Doin’ the Twist”)

Montag, 10. August 2026 · 40 min

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Scott’s friend and business partner, Dr. Adam Killpartrick, joins him to recap the spring break episode, “Girls in Bikinis, Boys Doin’ the Twist”

Why do Scott and Adam think Luke’s meltdown over the car reflects his own disappointment?

Plus, a surprising theory about why things didn’t work out with Nicole that even the biggest Gilmore Girls fans may not have considered!

And, to purchase Adam and Scott’s supplements visit maiome.com
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I am all in again. Lets you I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast. What eleven productions, Iheartradiomedia, I Heart Podcast Season four, Episode seventeen, Girls in Bikini's Boys Doing the Twist Air Day, April thirteen, two thousand and four. Gee, when was that? I have a very very special guest with me today. You don't know him yet, but you're gonna know him because he's got some big things in the pipeline and he's been a very very very good friend of mine for the past decade. And I'd like to introduce the world to doctor Adam Kopatrick. Adam, thank you so much for joining us. We are thrilled to have you.

Scott, I could not be more excited to be on, especially for this episode. I mean, oh god, yeah.

Pretty terrific, I would have to say. But let's let the audience know Adam and I have been friends for ten years. I'll tell the beginning of the story and Adam you can finish it up. When I opened my coffee company ten years ago, Scotty piece of Big my coffee, I was looking for an additive, healthy additive to boost the nutritional quality of each cup. And I was looking for those little powder packets that you can just tear open and pour into a cup of coffee. And I contacted a company, and I did a ton of research, and I contacted a company that can do this on the east coast northeastern United States. And that didn't work out with that company, but I I formed a friendship with Adam, who was a chief scientist at that company,

and Adam, you can take it from here.

Yeah, I mean we Yeah, over the years, we were trying to figure out like like a way to create the product that you wanted. We talked, we kicking around other ideas for other products, and all the while becoming friends. Over the time of anytime I was out in La we you know, grabbed lunch and you know, it was it just so happened that my daughters were huge fans of the huge fans of the show. So it was like, you know that that all worked out and yeah, we uh, we ended up we ended up becoming friends. But then yeah, we've we've stumbled upon some some exciting projects to work on together, and that's what we've been doing for the last last couple of years, the last few years.

We actually started a company together, Adam You we want to talk a little bit about that before we get into the episode. The name of the company and what does it do?

We you and I in all the conversations that we had, all the conversations about you know, health and wellness. Like you said, you wanted an additive that boosted the you know, health aspects of the coffee. We were always talking about health and wellness and that's the world I live in. And I had come across this technology that when I shared it with you, you and I were just like, oh my gosh, this is this is amazing technology. And it was formulation technology. And I've been formulating for at that point, like over a decade, maybe fifteen years, and so when I saw this technology that could really elevate the types of products that we could that we could make together, we both got really excited about it. And

that it's a it's a product line that we've developed over the last three years. Every part of it, Scott and I have built. Uh, it's it's it's a from everything from the formulations themselves all the way to the branding and packaging and and and you know, every corner of the website and.

We're talking about we're talking about supplements here.

It's a it's it's a it's a supplement line. That's and and I know everybody would say this about a supplement line. It's unlike anything else out there at so so we're we're super excited to bring it, you know, bring it to market. And and it's called My Own and it's uh it's it's a word I completely made up.

What's got And uh it's it's M A I O M E. And uh, yeah, so we're very excited about it.

Yeah, so everybody go to my own dot com and check out our website. We're very proud of it. And it is, uh groundbreaking company, groundbreaking technology. We just launched it. M A I oh M dot commayom dot com. Anyway, we'll get more into it later, but let's dive into this wonderful episode. First. Let's do a breakdown springtime Rory in Paris. They aren't exactly thrilled about having a proper college spring break. Meanwhile, Jason Styles is taking steps forward in his relationship with Lorelei, and Luke is taking a big step back in his marriage with Nicole, director Jamie Babbitt, writer Amy Sherman, Palladino Rory at Yale and spring break.

Paris and Rory don't want to do spring break. Instead, they decide to have a protest table in the cold weather and then they change your minds and catch you right with Glenn and Janet to Florida while Paris drives. When they arrive, Paris is tipping everybody. The next day, they run into Madeline Luise beach and they explain the rules of spring break. Later, as Rory and Paris are watching movies, they wonder if they're even doing spring break the right way. So they enjoy the pool. The next day and Rory spots the same cute guy from earlier.

There's always got to be a cute guy somebody spots. They head to a club where the actual band, the Shins are playing on stage. They're playing, so says I, and Paris and Rory think they should do something. Rory again spots this cute guy again. Just then Paris thinks everybody else is having a better time than she is.

Then Paris kisses Rory and she gets some cute guy notices the kiss and tries to hit on her, you know, Adam. Usually spring break entails crazy partying in gibauchery's you know, it's par for the course. But Peris and Rory are not that type. Do you like that they didn't indulge too much in these stereotypical spring break storylines?

Did I like that?

Yeah, I'll tell you.

I'll tell you what, Scott, I am the epitome of a scientist geek who never did spring break. I actually identified with them more than you know, they're friends that were, you know, jumping off the life the Lifeguarden truck and you know, taking part in all the debauchery. Yeah, so, I mean I thought it was you know, it's it's funny because I would I watched this episode. The very first time I watched this episode was with my daughters, and they were like, oh, spring Break, Did you do spring Break? And I'm like, no, no, I was. I was more like Rory than I was like anybody else.

And you know, there were plenty of there are plenty of questions around spring Break from my at the time nine and eight seven year old daughters, you know, So, so yeah, you know, did I did I like that they didn't indulge too much. Yeah, I guess, I mean they they indulged a bit. If memory serves, yea, they did.

They did tip back a few if.

They did well. Paris and Rory catch up with Madeline and Louise while they were drinking. Paris tells them about Asher fleming, and Rory tells them about Dean being married, but Louise thinks it's not going to last, so she dials Dean's number and Rory ends up leaving a drunk voicemail. Rory and Paris end up at the beach drunk and decide to cut their trips short. They've decided they've done all the springs, break stuff, and go home. The next day, Lorlike calls home, she didn't know they cut the trip short, and then Dean calls. They end up flirting and chatting on the phone, and Dean wrote down questions for Rory about her trip. So Adam definitely, Paris and Rory are out of their comfort zones, but also brought back to

madel and movies, those two wacky old friends from Chiltern. Did it feel like you were watching a different show because their storyline took place outside Chilton? Did? I?

You know? Yeah? But I think that was a good thing. You know, it mixed it up a bit, you know, I thought I thought the I thought the spring break of the beach was a good was a good change of scenery, you know, and that. But there was plenty of There was plenty of stars Hollow, Kurt at the beginning, and and you're in Luke getting arrested. That that's what that happened, right, So, I mean there was plenty at stars Hollow to dip back into. But yeah, I like, I thought the change the scenery was good.

Yeah.

So at the end details Rory, he wrote down questions for their conversation. Is this inappropriate considering he is married to Lindsay.

Yes, I wouldn't even think that would be a question.

It's uh, it's definitely inappropriate.

But that first love, right, that first love is very good. Yeah, yeah, very hard to shake that first love. And I don't think either of them will ever not feel something for the rest of their lives. I mean, they'll always feel something for each other the way it always is, the way it is.

Do you do you have and I don't want to get you in any trouble, but do you have someone like that in your life? So like a like a now your first your first love, if.

You want me to tell, I don't want to bore anybody, but uh my, my, I met my wife very young. I was twenty when I met my wife, and she was she was literally the first, the first person I.

Fell in love with.

And I actually asked her to marry me after about six hours and yeah, she made me wait a year.

Six hours.

Six hours. Yeah, it was six hours into us knowing each other. I had asked her, so, so, uh do I have somebody like yes, it's my wife and she's right out on the wood.

I right now, that's brilliant. That's six hours.

Boy, I knew, I knew Scott, I knew in ten minutes. Really, yep, yeah, that's fantastic. That's no joke. And in that I'm not, I'm not, I'm not just say that it was no joke. Ten after ten minutes, I was like, this is the woman who most spen the rest of my life with. And we've been married. We just celebrate our twenty fifth anniversary.

Yeah yeah, that's so wow, good for you. Great. Now, that's that's such a blessing. I did not know that. I did not know this new information. Of all the conversations we've had. You know, we don't talk much about our We don't talk much about our marriages, do we we talk about other things?

No, we don't. And you know, it's not the sort of thing I figured I was going to wait till I was on a nationally syndicated podcast to to tell anybody that story. So yeah, but that is the truth though.

Six hours. Hey's Scott everybody. If you want to come see me and hang out, I'll be at Pasco Washington Tri Cities Comic on August fifteenth and sixteenth. On August twenty eighth and twenty ninth, I'm going to be a Galaxy con San Jose on August thirtieth. I'm flying to Anaheim for one day for that Sunday, August thirtieth for the TV Millennial Convention over there in Anaheim, California. September fourth and fifth, I'll be a New Milford, Connecticut for that Gilmour Convention, which is just so much fun. And on September twenty sixth and twenty seventh Destination Stars hollow Brighton, Michigan.

Also October seventeen, eighteenth, Houston, Texas. More to come more announcements to come, but that's that's going to be taking care of the next couple of months. In my personal appearances, if you want to come out and say hello and hang out all the best guys. Luke shacka ball Shock is in a sour mood at him. Can you imagine this man being in a sour mood? Laurrelike comes into Luke's and shows off her stationary and calls Luke an investor.

But Luke is in a super sour mood. I like that he's super sour, and then he goes on to expl his socks situation. He is not wearing his socks at him. Then Lorelai comes home after a day with Jason to a voicemail from Luke. He's in Lichfield in jail. She rushes out to go pick him up, picks him up, takes it back to his truck. Luke explains that he wanted to see who owns the socks. He parked outside of.

The the I guess the condo that he wants shared with the cole and waited and saw Nicole go in that place with her new boyfriend.

So he got out and started kicking his car, but the police were nearby arrested him. Confesst feels like such an idiot, gets out of the car, shows LORELEI. The guy's card starts kicking. He's still super ups at Wow. Let me ask you this. Luke was there for laura Lives breakdown a few episodes ago, and now laurlie there foks breakdown. The support and friendship they have for each other is admirable, don't you think?

Yes, come on, of course, and you know you don't wear another dude's socks. I don't know why Luke put the socks on, he knew they weren't his. I don't know what he was thinking, but yes, the friendship is admirable. Obviously, always there for each other.

This type of behavior coming from Luke, him snapping like this, do you think it's emblematic solely because of this Nicole situation or do you think it represents more his overall frustration with not seemingly being able to have a healthy, steady, nurturing relationship within another on.

Knowing where the series goes and knowing where his heart is. I think he's you know, I think he's hugely frustrated, and I think he wanted I think His frustration comes not just from the Cole and whatever she was doing with whatever dude own the gold striped White Sox, but the fact that he ultimately wants to be with Laura Lai.

That's my that's that's what I think.

I think he's just mad at himself. I think the car represents him. He's kicking himself, Like maybe he feels that that the Laura Lai ship has sailed. He's stuck in this sort of I don't know, relationship with the Coal. He's pretending to love her, he really wants to love her. Maybe he does a little bit, but there's something missing there.

There's not the magic.

Yeah, yeah, there's just.

Not the magic. I think that what Nicole lacks is the ability to make Luke feel like I think she. I think Nicole has a difficult time not condescending to Luke, whereas Laurel I if she does tend to do that, it's in a very playful way, fun way, she doesn't really mean it. But I think Nicole, actually, you know, it's more impactful when Nicole becomes a little snobby with him, like because she's an attorney and she's got more education, you know, the way she stakes her opinions. I just think it's a style problem, right, Laurel Lize seems to have a much bigger heart and a much bigger capacity to deal with even though they both know that they're not on same level A lot in a lot of sense.

But anyway, do you wish we could have seen a scene with Nicole and her new boyfriend because I personally don't think that was necessary. But what do you think?

No, I think the car kicking was plenty plenty.

Yeah, I agree, well.

I think it was plenty and plus it kept the focus on on like you were asking about the friendship and the you know, the friendship and support. It kept to focus on that instead of going elsewhere.

Mm hmm. And I think that's the main point. It's like, I also think that Luke and lorlei situation answers the questions can you marry your best friend? Yes? And it's often highly recommended because if you don't, you end up in these very contentious situations with people that aren't your best friend. They're just you know, your girlfriend or your wife or and you haven't set a foundation like you did.

You set a sound foundation for six solid hours and then decided that was that.

There you go, Yes, six hours, best friend in six hours, but like when you know, you know, I totally was.

I'm just kidding you. That is I think that's fantastic. All right, Let's get to uh to the real relationship in this entire Jason and Laurel I. And by the way, I I really I love what what Jason adds to this entire narrative. This it's it's it's it's very spicy. Uh. And simultaneously you get the feeling that it can't possibly work because he's a bit of an odd duck. But then so and she right, so it kind of works.

He might be the male version of Laurel I in his quirkiness, in his idiosyncratic behavior. He's obviously smart, he's obviously motivated. He you know, he wants to move up in the world, and you know, I think he has just enough. You know, he has just he has He has so many of the same characteristics that Laurel I has that it it almost makes it a good match.

But anyway, Laura I stays the night at Jason and puts French toasts and bacon in a bag of Sarah. Jason then gives Flora a key to his apartment, and it's a bit awkward because that's a big move. That's a huge move. It's nothing like six hours, Will you Marry Me? But it's it's a key. Jason and Laura go on in a date, but Laurrenli is doing all the talking. Jason confesses he did it all wrong, the key giving, but he also admits this is usually at the time he bolts in a relationship, but he wants to stay. Wow, lots to unpack here, you know. Okay, so Jason's awkward with Flora. I when it comes to giving hers a part key. Adam, Yeah, and I already know what you're gonna say, but I'm gonna ask you anyway.

Do you think this was the right move or too soon?

Well, I gave my I gave my wife the key at four hours, so the progression was there with with her. No, no, I I I actually just to go back to what you said. I like Jason. I always liked him as a character, and I actually loved just I love that he came back in the in the Netflix special as well. I thought I thought that was I thought that was cool.

I always thought he was it was a good storyline, and then uh, yeah, they're both totally awkward and he's he's totally off the wall with his idiosyncrasies and you know, his the way he is. Uh, but yeah, I mean, do I think it was too soon to offer the key?

Nah?

I don't think so, You're you're asking me. No, I don't think it was too soon. But yeah, but it was awkward. It was awkward to watch, and you know, him squirming was was awkward. But I'm with you. I thought they were a good match.

Do you sense, right, do you sense any reluctance on laralized part to accept the key for Jason considering how deep her connection is to Luke.

On some level? Probably, I you know, when she's like, oh, the key, I feel like she's she has such an extreme version of ADHD that she's just like, okay, all right, to keep moving on. She's already ten steps ahead. So I don't really think she was like struggling. It didn't appear she was struggling, but like, oh, what's this mean?

She wasn't looking at the depth of the of the gesture. I don't think I think she was. You know, she was already at work.

I just you know, it's such good writing, because we are you know, we're hurtling at record speed. For Laurel I. That is into a rel that it brand new, into a level of commitment that we have not seen her make with any other man. And you know, the tension that it's creating regarding the question of luc and Laurel I ever getting together, it has become quite fraught with fear for maybe a fan base that is hoping that loucan laurrel I get together. But you know, it does seem that Jason and Laurel I are getting along very very well, and it's entertaining to watch it. Just isn't the same? What's the difference? Adam Man of the World Scientists slash he Man, Who do you think is better for Luke or Jason?

Jason was you know, he was mister right now. I think I think he was good for her at the time. But long term, I though obviously it's Luke, you know, but I think it was. I think it was good for her to be with somebody with those with those you know, the quirkiness, and for the shows. For the show itself, I thought I thought it was great entertainment.

Like you said, Hey, everybody's Scott. I don't know if you know this or not, but I've got a cookbook coming out. It's going to be on the market September eighth. You can get a pre sale right now Amazon dot Com and Barnes and Noble. It's called Scott Patterson Dishes from the Diner. It's got all kinds of great diner recipes from where I grew up in southern New Jersey and Northeast in general, and stuff I learned while on the set of Kilmoor. So go ahead and check that out and happy eaton right the episode? What do you think overall? Tons of fun, tons of laughs?

Yeah, I thought it was what are you doing? Like a scale of ten?

What do you what do you scale ten? That's right, that's how.

We roll here, ten being the best. Let's go. Uh. I would give this like a like a strong, like a strong eight point five. I was very entertained. Nice, Yes, how about you? What do you give it?

Yeah, I'm right there with you. That's the same, maybe a little higher. Those kids provide a lot of got I appreciate it, Yeah, they really. Yeah. Having said that, I feel that Luke could probably use some supplements, don't you think and do you think that maybe he should be using my own dot com supplements?

Yes, he needs to calm himself down. It was it was almost like it was almost like roid rage the way that he handled that car. But uh, yes he could, he could definite and that we use some supplements.

All right, Well, let's talk a little bit about what we're doing here with Mayom. Okay, what can you tell us? What do you want to tell us at this point because we do have a multi tiered launch protocol here and we want to stay disciplined, So I don't want to say anything before you know we're ready to say it, but share you know, we you know you alluded to a certain technology. I don't know how much detail you want to give about this technology, but it is very special, it's very proprietary and very powerful and it could change the business. So talk a little bit about the technology, why it's so crucial in the supplement space and the formulation the protocols.

So formulating supplements is it's it's an art and a science. You put together, you create certain combinations of ingredients that accomplished a certain goal, and a lot of times it's guesswork. You hope that you know a combination of ingredients, specific compounds will do what you want them to do. The technology is actually out of Europe. It's a it's it's a it's along the lines of a diagnostic AI platform and what the what the what? The company who the owner is a friend of mine and you know he's been working on this for about a decade. He was able to basically reverse reverse engineer products formulations based on specific patterns found in the body. Based all of that was was built as a result of I think it

was forty forty five thousand microbiome that's the gut microbiome profiles, as well as open source data, all the data that you see on PubMed and all that. They were able to compile all that data to figure out what certain patterns looked like within the body and how to reverse engineer the formulas that can balance everything out for specific patient populations. And so we were able to put together ten the top ten systems that need support for longevity and healthy aging. We were able to identify those ten products and build those formulas in a way that was easy for consumers to take. It's not twenty five different pills.

We were actually able to get it so precise that it's down to a couple capsules. Now this technology doesn't is not being utilized by anybody else, and it truly is, it truly is you know you it's a groundbreaking it really is. And so that's that's that's what we've been working on.

So talk to me Adam about this technology a little bit. Uh. It can interact with any type of medication that a patient, let's say, who has contracted cancer, leukemia, or liver disease, or heart disease, or or any neurological issues and they're on these very complex and very powerful drugs to help to help them. And so this technology that we are utilizing can interact perfectly in an ALEC cartway and design a very specific uh, you know, patient to patient can design a very specific formulation of a supplement that can interact with that medical protocol that that specific person, whether you know it's a man, a woman, whatever age, whatever weight, whatever condition, so it's a very person it's able to

personalize a supplement protocol for that particular patient. Correct.

Well, so when you're bringing in medications, most of the people that experience any sort of dysfunction or disorder. Yes, there are medications. And what this technology looks at is it looks at the specific pathways that are associated with whatever a person's going through. So if they got cardiac stress, metabolic stress, joint stress, you know, their skin might they might be having issues with their skin. There's specific pathways associated with all of those all of those issues, and the pathways contain bacteria, different ratios of bacteria. There's tons of bacteria in the body and there's different ratios, and those ratios will those ratios are basically there, like you were talking about different demographics, say a man who has

you know, joint issues, men women, if they have joint issues, that bacterial sort of blueprint looks the same or those ratios look the same. And so what this technology does is it says, okay, we need to adjust certain levels of certain bacteria, and we can do that with a targeted combination, a very precise, targeted combination of ingredients, and that will actually send signals to whatever end system we're looking at, whether it's joint skin, heart, metabolism, weight management, sleep in the brain. So yes, well, and when it comes to medications, when you deal with those types of pathways.

You can you can use those our type our products to my own products can be used in combination with medication and safely because they're working on different pathways. Does that make sense right?

It makes sense to me, And I'm sure you explained it very well. Yes, and we know that. I don't even know if we want to mention this, but let's just go ahead and mention it. This is an AI technology. This is why it's so precise. This is why this company that we're working with is so very very special. It's the only one of its kind in the world.

So talk about a little bit about you know, the level of precision that this AI technology regarding the formulations of each particular supplement is so significant in game changing. Yeah.

So when you're talking about influencing and manipulating levels of bacteria in the gut and throughout the body, all compounds have a different interaction with bacteria. And when I say compounds, I mean nutritive compounds, food compounds. And the company that we were partnering with, they built it's the only one in the world. They built what's called the Microorganism Nutrient Interaction Database. It's how food interacts with the bacteria, and it's able to calculate down to a milligram, which is I forget what it's like five grains of salt or whatever, down to a milligram how much a certain patient population would need of all of the specific ingredients. And when it combines them, it takes into consideration that this one

is going to have this effect on this, but that effect on that, and then you add another one and it's going to account for that, so it accounts for this. As a formulator, I was never able to do that. I was like, I was like, let's throw some ingredients together and cross our fingers. And I'm not saying that in a negative way. That's just how formulation works, and you try its trial and error. This removes all of that question. It removes all of that guesswork. And so for somebody who needs for somebody who has sleep dyspins, sleep issues, they have that certain sort of imbalance, we have the compounds that can balance that out and send the signals from the gut back to the brain so that your your brain recalibrates and it's able to have

a better night's sleep. So so that's the type of those are the types of messages that we're able to facilitate.

And so we're launching with ten products. Let's let's go. Can you go through those ten different categories.

Yeah. So we have joint performance, So I mean, obviously your background that was one that was that was at the top of the list. You know, you want to be able to keep up physically, So we have joint performance. We have skin collagen and you know, when people have challenges with skin like exim I'm not saying this cures EXAMA ranking, but there are challenges that people have with skin that are tied to the gut. We want to help.

We want to help provide, you know, an option for those folks. So we have skin and beauty, we have joint and performance. We have like digestive regularity, digestive comfort. We have weight management and energy. We have sleep and mood which helps with neurotransmitter balance. We have a straight up longevity formula that helps to increase what's called acromancia, which is a probiotic in the gut that is tied very closely to longevity. And then we have a cardiovascular and antioxidant support formula and then a metabolism formula which when I say metabolism. I mean how your body utilizes blood sugar sugar, so your blood sugar in that. So those are the ten that we have.

I used to surf. I don't surf anymore, but I am on the Mayo products. I've been pretty much the guinea pig for the company for the last six months. And this morning I went out and did the same thing and they say, oh, it comes, here comes.

Old silver Beard with his long board, and uh, you know what, I'm surfing with the young guys and enjoying it.

And I was never a I wasn't able to serve for the last twenty years because join is shoes and my shoulders And now I feel great. I'm paddling, paddling like a young and I'll tell you so. And it's uh so, thank you for making me a part of this company. Uh it's it's it's a thrill to be a part of something that I know is going to improve, optimally speaking, the health of anybody that interacts with these supplements. Everybody.

Uh my own dot com M A I O M E dot com.

There's some more news to Adam. Adam's book Wealth and Hellness is now out on Barnesennoble dot com for pre sales. Is it on Amazon for pre sales to Adam.

Yeah, I think so. I think it's on Amazon and Google Books as well.

Google Books as well. Wealth and hellness, it is a ride. We're going to make a big feature film out of it as well. It lends itself to the big screen. Uh and uh so look out in the next year or so for some kind of an announcement about that. We are behind the scenes packaging away. Anyway, I'm glad you got to meet my good buddy, doctor Adam Kilpatrick.

We've got a hell of a company and he's a hell of a writer and a hell of a guy. And that's just a side gig.

Malm dot com everybody for the world's most precisely crafted and high quality supplements that are available anywhere in the world.

Anyway, Thanks Adam for stopping by. And that's gonna deal with doctor Adam Kilpatrick. Adam, thank you so much for stopping by. Remember best fans on the planet. Keep those cards and letters coming to remember where you lead. We will follow.

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