Gilmore Girls Gazette: Parenthood: A Big Leap Backwards (Season 4 E15 & Season 5 E1)

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Podcast season finale and season premiere recap today.

I have a lot to say.

I have so many thoughts, so many things to say. Is this is kind of a hard episode to do because it was two very meaty episodes.

I totally agree.

And the time jump, so I think we're gonna have to, like, I think we're gonna have to do the finale and then the new one.

And I'm just gonna say that. Sorry, it's does it feel very echoey? Does not great because it's very echoy here.

I loved the finale, yes, didn't love the premiere premiere. It's fine, It's fine. Yeah, It's not as good as the finale. And my concern is is this leading us down a bad path for this season?

Oh don't tell me. Is this season seven of Gilmore Girls? No? Is it?

What season are we on of Parenthood?

This is season for the four four finale, five premiere.

So we have just two more, we have five six.

Yeah, it's still good, but this premiere was not good.

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, But what is there a bad season of parenthood.

No no, no, no, no, okay, no, all right, let's start with the finale.

Yes, the highlight the adoption.

I know, I know, you know, there's I loved. I loved that Victor came to Sydney on his own term totally totally and was like, look, you're my sister. I want you to be there. I loved the whole interaction because because it was.

Very sibling ish. They can fight. They're not gonna get along right all the time.

They can fight. That's totally reasonable.

Well, and like that Sydney was just like, okay, sibling ish. I like that we're.

Coming around and not having quite so much drama. Yes, that was getting even though it was realistic, it was getting a.

Little a little yeah, a little hard to watch, I thought. Trying on the suits and then being like, you're not gonna pick out your suit, but I'll let you pick out a.

Tie, and then matching ties roses tie and then they matched so iconic. And the adoption ceremony where everyone spoke, that was like a great.

Zeke just starting. Oh and I love what every single one of them said, you know, like even Sarah being like, I probably can't give you advice. But I'm gonna be that fun fun aunt that's gonna you know, just great. Like, loved it.

The whole thing was great.

It was that was a great storyline, a great way to do it, a great way to make it positive, a great way to make it believable. Yeahy braverman, they all come rolling in, They're all always there.

Yeah, I loved it. Loved what did I I thought of you the whole time when Drew got into UC Berkeley, and I thought of.

You the whole time.

Like, Amy's gonna have so much to say about this.

So this is the thing they did a good job on. He should go to Berkeley. It was he's smart. It makes sense, and it allows him to still be in the in the show without it being.

Unbelievable. Like why is this kid coming home so much?

You know what I'm saying, Like they live in Berkeley, he can he can totally bop over for dinner.

It's it's perfect. When they all came running in.

With the gear, and the gear was so legit, I wonder if they have to like clear the gear they must, because I'm sure like it's all copywritten. Because the bear is called Oski so did you see like I think Amber was wearing the hat with oscy on it. But it was like, great, that was very realistic, very realistic.

How he suddenly got it on the computer. I mean we didn't when you got into college.

Was it on a computer?

I know it was envelope, so you know, you're like, is it small as a big Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally same.

So that was like, you know, it was all that was great and I think that that does open up some good interactions with Drew for season five. I thought the Amy Drew stuff was necessary and good, except for the I'll never.

Forget you I know, Oh no, I'm going to see you.

Tomorrow in the hallway, Like I don't know that part was a little bit too dramatic.

I agree with that. The only thing that I kind of agree with is when you have this like you know, your your high school boyfriend and you guys are like, yeah, I'm going to go to school in Boston, I'm going to stay. Doesn't it school in San Francisco? We are not on the by Berkeley. Yeah, We're We're not on the same field here.

You know, like, doesn't it make you think of did you guys have your books. Yeah, k I T keep in touch?

Ours was Hags have a good summer, Hags.

Had I know you didn't have k I T keep in touch?

No, what about definitely Hags?

What about all the people writing? Never change? That was so weird.

Never changed?

That was so weird.

My favorite, My favorite is when the like in element it was more so like the elementary school yearbooks, like the ones like you know whatever, and it was like, I can't believe I'm not going to see you for two months. Please keep in touch, I love you, you know whatever, as if the world is any and you're like, it's just two months away, You're going to see each other real soon.

Oh my god.

It's like that you feel like it's the end of the world writing.

Oh my god. I read back and I'm like, I can't read this.

It's way too cringe. It's just so cringe. The year books are cringe. So anyway, that was still good.

Yeah, I I I love that. I was actually really sad about Hank just being like I'm moving, I'm going to Minnesota's.

Oh.

There's so much talk at the beginning at.

Five hours so annoying.

The beginning, first of all, it was all good in season four, like the Mark stuff. I like that she went in person to say to Mark like, I'm going to try and make it work with Hank.

I'm going to make it work.

I Am going to her house and being like it was great.

I think I love you when he's like I think I love you.

I know. That's why it was like, how can you say no?

That's why season five, that storyline in particular, just poops the bucket, Like I'm so just irritated by that, which we'll get into, but and it's just first of all, like, there's no way Hank is going to move to Michigan or wherever it is, Snowy come back without his kid, which I think the kid does move to San Francisco or Berkeley soon, but whatever. I just was so very pleased with season four ending, and so like h season five beginning, I'm like, so you.

Like that Hank moved You like that?

He was like I gotta go yeah, yeah, because there First of all, yeah, I didn't mind that. Also because I think I have the knowledge that they all move back the daughter comes back, so I wasn't that worried about it, but I had forgotten they have this dumb breakup for a bit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was dumb.

The one thing I did like about it, well, it bummed me out. I was like, gosh, like literally, Sarah is like taking a leap here and going for it, and he's perfect for her, and of course he's leaving. But the one thing I did like about it is she ended the relationship with Mark and right now it's kind of ending the relationship with Hank for the time being.

So she's by herself, which I feel like is what she needs. I do want her to be.

She's by herself the whole show.

What are you talking about?

She's also somebody, I mean not really Like she had those bad dates in the very beginning, and then she found Mark but like they kind of were hot cold, and then John Corbett but that never really solidified.

I'd like her to have something stable.

There was somebody before Mark, who am I forging?

I know she went on like two dates with the like Kevin O'Malley, but it wasn't Kevin O'Malley. It was.

In the very very beginning. I forgot Kevin O'Malley. There's somebody after there was something Kevin O'Malley. I think it is Kevin O'Malley. It's not Kevin O'Malley. Oh he is something O'Malley. It is high school boyfriend. What's his name?

Definitely not Kevin o'm malli because that's just like some random person.

What is the gun?

He is?

Right?

Can some I know? But can someone help us?

Like wait, Tim O'Malley, Paul O'Malley, Mike O'Malley. Mike is from Kevin to Tim to.

That was gnarly. That was so gnarly.

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You guys, who are we missing after O'Malley? Who she dated? Somebody? Am I totally making this up?

I don't really remember anyone.

Steady first of all, blurring gomer girls right now because I'm like the coffee guy.

But here's my thing. Suddenly she's seth.

I guess okay, all right.

Suddenly she's managing an apartment building and you know the guy from across the hall. He is the ultimate that guy. That guy is in everything, but you're like pressed to name what.

Are we jumping to the premiere?

She's gonna hook up with that guy? I don't like, clearly so annoying. What is that actor's name. He's very handsome and he is in everything, but he's never.

Like you're always like that guy. That guy, he's that guy. He's that guy.

He's like a pause pause it on the I almost aid, TVO, what do he pause it on like streaming, like now you can just pause everything.

So what is he in?

But anyway, Oh god, you're asking the wrong person. I didn't even he didn't even look that familiar to me.

He's so familiar to me.

By Jackie will look into it.

Let's yeah, But anyway, I don't like that suddenly she moved out. I don't even understand why. I don't really understand why. It's like, well and just why.

Yeah, I agree with that, it was just very I guess she needs to have a job because she's not working at the photo studio anymore since I closed down, So I guess there's no I.

Didn't close down because he's back and now Max is there. But I guess she had to go get a job. All right, fine, fair, but she's perfectly Yeah, Josh Stanberg, he's super handsome. Josh Stamberg, I've googled him before.

What is he in?

He's in something I don't get? Yeah, fair a fair, Yes, he's hamp super handsome, but that's right.

He's that.

He's just the ultimate back guy and nine one one that's probably where you.

Yes, he plays kind of a he played sort of a sketchy cop on nine one one.

Yeah, I think he was sussy.

Anyway, I don't care for that storyline.

Maybe he'll get better, I don't know, but I don't like it.

Let's go back to the finale and let's let's wrap that up because we see that Christina get to a lost chema treatment.

That was That was a good storyline. Yeah, that was good.

And she's and she was cancer for the time being, because as you know, she says that I am at least for five years.

I believe it is so nervous for Rose ab do.

I have this terrible feeling like that.

I don't know if it's because it's sort of like a leading us to that or if I actually remember it, but terrible terrible feeling.

She's super sick, like because.

Cancer came back. Terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible.

Oh that hurt. That hurts to really git.

That was.

That was and great acting because obviously it's very minimal scenes, not a lot of like writing there, but you just get it and you're.

Like, yeah, it's pregnant, and did you like they were at that dinner.

I didn't love the like she's being so fussy and poopy and then all of a sudden she's like, well, we're pregnant, and then it's like all gay, I don't like them, mom moving out. That's all just a storyline that I don't Poor Jasmine.

And Crosby, they can't. They just get the short.

End of the stick constantly. They sort of just never have the meat. But there it's like they're almost like pretending it's meat, but it's just like.

They had it. They had it for half a season and then it just went down the drain.

What do you think about Pete? And Pete is a that girl. She's like also in everything, somebody tells what she's from.

I want to say that you but you're jumping to Joel and Juliet thank you for saying that. I do not like that. Pete's gotta go.

Pete. Yep, Pete's a little bit. Yeah, I don't like, I'm not worried about Joel. You don't play like that.

And also her like, yeah, I like I knew you were more than just to stay at home. Mom like little comments like that, like she just digs and she says really mean stuff. I don't like her.

Pete, Yeah, she said mean stuff.

You didn't you didn't hear that like it. Julia got like offended. She was like, do you think you are? I was a miss misread misinterpretation. What did didn't she say? Like a mother is so important some kind of like oh. She was like, oh, you know, like that's really important too.

I remember this dinner scene where I.

Just got to stay at home.

I think this is the problem when someone's a that guy or that girl. I was so distracted, going.

How do I know this woman? Yeah, but I can't hear what they're saying. That is why you should pause the tvo people.

Chievo, stop it, pause your tape.

Oh my god.

I was laughing because my niece, who's eight, said, can I videotape this on my phone?

And I was like, interesting, she said.

Videotape instead of record or film?

Yeah, She's like, hey, videotape this on your phone?

And I was like, yeah, how do you know video? How do you know that free?

Maybe she's watching some old timy like shows.

She watches that Babysitters Club, and I think they videotaped stuff.

They picked stuff up like that from TV.

Yeah.

Anyway, Ryan and Amber, sorry, I make it.

I liked it fine. I liked it. I liked that he got the jump. I like that he's working hard, then all of a sudden he's like deployed. Like that was my problem on Time Jump.

I did not like it.

Jumping so much. I did not.

I think the reason we had to time jump is because it was the shortened season, so it was literally a year later or more.

Before the show came back.

So that's potentially why since this time jump was just awkward.

It's really hard with the binge. Maybe like in real life it wasn't so bad.

Oh, you know, that's a great point.

Because in real life you are waiting, you are waiting that year.

It's really great that it.

Makes a lot of sense stuff happened since we been gone.

That's so interesting because you never think about that like back then, but now that there is such a thing as binging, the time jump is more awkward because it's like we like jarring well, and we watched it in the same night, like we didn't have a.

Week right right, right right, or.

Day, like we literally back.

I watch him back to back, do you I watch him back to back?

I too at a time well, and then Ryan's proposed proposed, and you know, the whole day I.

Loved that scene where he like returns from deployment. Them getting engaged just feels weird to me.

They're way too young. She's like twenty one.

Well, and it's just I feel like they got a lot that they need to do first as a couple. They've been dating for a minute.

If you get it though, because like you understand why, I get it.

I get it.

You know people in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine soldiers, armed forces.

It is of like you grow up faster, right the.

Relationships become more serious, so you kind of get it. It's not so like so random, but it's just like.

Oh yeah, it's just this is not gonna be good.

No. It feels like they're not setting themselves up for success right now. And I'm scared scared because as we can, as we know, there's a lot of emotion tied to this relationship. So it's just it's heavy. It's heavy.

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Who's your favorite right now? Yeah? In the season five, I just I mean, my favorite couple is Hank and Max. Honest, it's like they're rad but he's like, you're in my radius.

I'm in your radius the whole Like I thought that the gift was very thoughtful, like totally yeah, and.

Then he's using it and takes good pictures and like.

No, I love it.

I think Hank and Peter Krause, we'll get him out of my radius then, like.

Yeah, so good, it's so good.

An I'm going to give a ten to the finale.

Maybe nine nine missed a big okay, yes for the finale, yes, but we have to talk a lot about Christine's run for mayor.

Oh my god, that was so you know, I glossed over it. I don't like it. It's just like I don't mind her working. It's just like you can't just suddenly go.

Run for mayor of Berkeley, like out of nowhere, and like guy that kissed Amber so irritated and he probably should be, because he went that's kind of like stealing, almost like, hey, do you want to work on my campaign?

No?

Thanks, but instead I'm going to run against you.

Well you didn't even think of this, right, right? That was like weird, Yeah, it's weird. It feels a little forced, And I get it. She's trying to you know, Carpy DM is what she keeps saying, and like she's.

Also had no reason for Peter Krauzer to hate him as much as he does because that guy just didn't really do anything.

Man.

I think he just thinks he's a tool. And like guys, I like that guy, Bob Little is a tool.

I like, I don't have a problem with Bob.

Of course you like Bob Little.

No, he is I know.

I always like, I'm always like, oh, that storyline always is like up my alley, like wow, this is kissling the intern.

Well, like that's always like but it's a little Nah Little.

I think he's cute.

I don't hate him, He's just.

I would have been totally happy with him and Amber.

Oh, okay, all right alone on such a.

Bad angle of this zoom today that I'm like.

Real video Julia interviewing for jobs.

Well, first of all, she didn't leave on bad terms. That's why I'm so confused. She literally didn't leave on terms.

She didn't. She just said I need to go be with my kid.

She's screwed up, screwed up.

And then she said, they said we want you to stay, but you got to give a one hundred ten percent, and she did said I've just adopted this child.

I got to devote myself to that.

Yeah, I'm writing a positive recommendation for that.

Like, who's who's mad about that?

Yeah?

I mean I get it. I get what you're saying. Because her track wasn't she.

Inspired or something right like? And also was it just wasn't that. I don't know.

I don't think that she should never get a job because of this one law firm.

Right right, I get that. But this guy maybe said that maybe it was like she was my great my greatest asset, and then she just lost herself.

I don't know.

I don't know. That's just been far patched.

It was to perpetuate the she can't get the job and Joel.

Is thriving storyline, which is fine.

But sometime both to work because I feel like they both too they just need to get a nice They both get it.

They've got both the kids in school. They easily can work from nine to whatever they can afford help, Like, yeah, it's.

Kind of dumb, and I mean, look, I'm in one of those relationships where we both need to work. Like it's just something that we both meant until he need and that's okay. That's how I feel like Julian Joel both are like they both meant to do something for themselves.

Yeah, and they don't forget about the money they to, you know, like.

You know, doesn't hurt to have all that two incomes.

But right right, so you look.

Ten for season four finale. Season five premiere is probably the worst episode yet of the series, but I get why. It's sort of like maybe it has to happen for us to get to the I'm gonna I'm gonna see what episode two brings without any like judgment.

Trying to look through and see all the things we missed. One other thing, Jasmine is having a baby girl. We found that out they had the baby.

Girl, and that they're having a girl.

They had it. This is the end of the premiere where the baby's born and the whole family comes over and like, is they're having dinner?

That's the premiere. Wait a minute, so quick, I just realized that so quick.

Yeah. So And at the end of the season, so she just.

Told everyone she's pregnant and then the baby came. She oh yeah, the baby came like three weeks early in the baby store or whatever. And then everyone comes over with the like pot of chili.

I will say that was like great though. Having people over is the and you would just have a baby. Everyone wants to watch and wants to visit the baby, and it's great and it's so nice and it's so kind.

You know what. Is beautiful and amazing.

And also a lot of people in your house right after you have a baby, A briss I want to a bress and I get it. It's great, but it's also one hundred people in your house, like I think three days.

After you've given birth or something.

Oh my god, it's like a lot. That's a lot. Just any any traffic through your home after giving birth to a child is.

No child, just right, like any people in my house like pass, I don't want that. My house is always a disaster sidebar because we're always doing so much work, so literally there's always stuff coming in or stuff going out for.

An event, so I have no entryway.

It's just right now it's filled with like four hundred bags of sonships and it's just.

So chips are good.

I'm like, hi, I look into my house. It's completely a disaster. Anyway, whatever is what it is.

We find out the baby's name is Ada or Ida Aida Ida Braverman, I remember which it was, and Crosby's having a hard time. He's having all.

Oh yeah, because he wasn't connecting with the baby.

And then Adam's like, I don't know, I connected right away, right, blah blah blah.

I felt for Crosby.

He'll be fine, he's going to be fine, but sometimes that does happen where it takes like a second, and also just with the chaos of it.

All, if you're so tired. Yeah, so anyway, I mean, it's all kind of I don't love Season five, Episode one.

It's fine, it's fine, it's an it's a seven eight. It's just not it's it's not where I want it. To be, and I think we'll turn it around.

Well, I'm excited to see Crosby as a dad that well no, but like as like a newborn dad. Like he missed that.

Sure he mentioned good point. You make an excellent point. Sorry I poo pooed.

That, but you are correct. But you are correct too. He obviously is a dad, but like in the thick of it.

We get along.

Yeah.

Anyway, Braverman's men's out. I want.

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