IAAI Town Meeting: Unhinged Emily is our Favorite Emily (Season 4 E16 “The Reigning Lorelai”)

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I was at dreary duty And for those who don't know, I don't know if you guys mentioned it, but I was literally chosen to be juror number five.

We didn't we didn't talk in great detail about it, but we did tell the world that you were on.

Yeah. You know, it's so funny. Everyone I talked to they're like, I don't know anyone who's been on jury duty. I'm like, well, now you do, because clearly I got picked.

So it was it was interesting. It was kind of cool to say I did it. I would prefer to never do it again. Yeah, it's just kind of like consuming.

Yeah, yeah, you know.

Actually, and we'll jump right into the episode, but I'll say real quick, there was when we were wrapping up the case, like second to last day, the other courtroom on our floor there was like one hundred people and we're like, oh, they're probably picking the jury. And someone in the bathroom during our break mentioned that that trial was going to be an eight month murder case. Oh my gosh, and I was like, how in the world do people like, yeah, I don't think I would have a job, like I can't.

I can't leave this for eight months. Yea, mind you.

I was still kind of working before and after jury duty, like for things that like obviously things like this like Jackie covered me, things that like I need to cover could be covered.

But yeah, I don't know how people can make that commitment like that.

No idea. Yeah, but anyway, let's get into Gilmore girl watching the floor. I were here, Yeah, we're watching season four, episode sixteen, the Raining Lorelei, which aired on March second, two thousand and four. And I loved Emily in this episode.

Yes, this was yeah, and we just are coming off of scene in the Mall, which was another you know, Emily centric episode, right, He's just amazing, Like Kelly Bishop really deserved some kind of a ward.

I didn't realize because I watched to catch up from where you guys left off.

I didn't realize that it was the Mall episode.

And then this back to back because I binged through it and I was like, oh wow, it was back to back.

Yeah, yeah, she's great. The whole cigarette and the drink and the book so funny, Yeah.

So good.

It made me think that because we only see Penalin Lot once in this show. Yes, we talked about it should be a drinking game. How many times her name is mentioned? Like it blew my mind because we did talk about how she's only been in one episode it was at the game, and but.

We hear about her all like she just never goes away.

And it was so funny the way she kept saying penal Lot, like she emphasizing the p.

It was honestly, what a great name, Like, what a great character name.

I kind of wish that she actually had more of like a role, because I just love her.

It's just such a good name for a character.

Oh yeah, we could have had so much more unhinged Emily if we'd had more Penalan Lot.

Yeah, yeah, I would have preferred that. I would have preferred that.

I will say, even though we loved Emily, Rory kind of was annoying this episode.

Yes, well whiney to me, Yeah, yeah, she tends to. She tends to fall into that the whining thing. I don't know, I'm not I don't know what it is about her, but yeah, she was. I agree, she was kind of bugging the part.

Where she should we be crying like like that part, like should I be? I was like, okay, come on now. Yeah, it was just a little odd.

Yeah, that kind of fell a flat for me. Yeah.

Yeah, and the whole weird thing with Michelle and the dog show.

I don't know that.

I'm not gonna lie to you. I forgot about that the episode was over. Yeah, it felt like a filler, Like I feel like we could have used those scenes for anything else.

Yeah, well, I wondered because there was the whole thing at the end of that scene where where she does the awkward hug with Michelle and she's like, let's never do that again, And then there was the weird awkward hug with Richard and Jason yep, and like were they trying to like draw I don't know, were they trying to draw up parallel with weird hugs. I don't know what the point was in that whole That whole scene was Suki in.

Yeah, you're right, those were both yeah, same episode. Yeah, well the Michelle one made sense to me because Michelle is Michelle like that won the awkward hug.

It made sense.

I feel like I didn't need Jason this episode, Like, I just I think we could have mentioned him, like, oh, I have a meeting with Jason or something.

I don't. I don't think he was needed.

Yeah, I agree.

We already saw Richard having enough of a breakdown that having like a plugging thing and where he's crying and all that. It didn't I don't know we already had that, Like, I don't think we needed Jason there to ye take that.

By the way, Speaking of Richard, I googled mock turtle soup again because I know we talked about it before. It still doesn't seem appetizing to me.

It doesn't.

It doesn't really have turtles in it, does it, Like that's why it's monk.

Yeah, it's not. Hold on, I looked it up last week.

What a weird name, Like, why would you why would you call it that?

It's a long simmered stew of beef, tomato, vinegar and or lemon juice.

So no, it's just okay, that actually doesn't sound bad. I'd probably eat that.

I think the photos I looked at like it's one of those things that like doesn't look like you're gonna like eh, and then the name of it doesn't really Yeah, but you know.

Soup, Yeah, I do too, and I like stew but it's.

It's from like the eighteenth century, like it's it's like an old English soup, so that's what it is.

Yeah, Okay, so.

That sounds kind of grand like that.

I don't know it honestly worked out.

I just thought it was funny that now, like also sup, he has to figure out how to make it.

Yeah.

Well, and it was funny that whole scene because she she says she's gonna make the soup, and then Laura La says she's gonna go call Rory. But then she walks in the door at the Gilmour house and the soup is made already, but she hasn't called Rory yet. So I don't know that the whole whole timing like didn't quite match up because she doesn't call Rory until after she leaves Emily's house, but yet soup was done instantaneously and.

She's resulting at her phone call.

Yeah, so I don't know.

Another inconsistency I noted was the whole thing about the fresh clothing because Laurel I said that the instructions said, I have, I have the exact quote. Laurely's line is Graham requested that she'd be buried in fresh clothing. Yeah, but then there's the whole thing about her being cremated. So is she going to be buried or is she going to be cremated.

I also that little back and forth about fresh clothing. I also was like, does it mean clean?

Does it mean new? Like it was so generic?

Yeah, they never they kind of like left.

But she goes to the store and she's looking for new clothes. I assume I'm at new.

Yeah, but only the underwor I don't know. We don't know what Laurel I picked for her, other than the Hello Kitty bracelet, which it's hilarious.

Remember Laurel I with that one.

Yeah, but yeah, so we don't I don't know. There was a question.

But then she wants to be buried, and I don't know, maybe she means bury the ashes.

Who knows.

I don't know, but I mean I guess you could non.

Richard says it again at the end of the episode when he's telling Emily that they don't have to put her urn on the mantle, right, he says she can be buried with my dad, So like.

Well does it mean? And I don't I actually don't know the answer to this. When you're cremated, can you be cremated with something?

So I googled that because I didn't know either, and I was like, wait, when they cremate you, is the is the body naked? Or assume you cremate them in their clothes? See? I thought so too, But then when I googled it, it's apparently more common to be cremated with clothes.

On m okay, so that makes a little bit more sense.

Yeah, And I did also look because I this is thankfully something I've never had any experience with, Like if you're cremated, can the ashes be buried or is it one or the other? And then I think you can, Yeah, you can bury ashes. So maybe that's what they were getting at, like maybe yeah, okay, them were supposed to be on the mantle and then part of them were going to be buried, but then they Richard said no, we could bury her with my dad.

But then that's the I don't know.

So if you have a plot, like like for example, like when my grandpa passed, though my Grandma's still alive. She she has the plot next to him. Yeah, so when he passed, she already purchased her plot, which is just a weird concept to think of.

But she has hers.

But I'm thinking, like, well, if she wanted to get cremated, she's technically good. And then you bury the ashes, you just need the spot. Yeah, so interesting. I actually it's something I never thought about until.

I didn't either until Yeah, I had to google it. As I was watching this, I'm like, wait, a minute, how does this song because it seems inconsistent.

Yeah, I texted this in our group text. But I thought laurelized like vest sweater thing was so ugly.

Yeah, the black and white kind of argyle.

No, it's red, it's red and black.

Yeah, I met red.

I said white, Yeah, red remind me of clown.

Yeah, and she So somebody commented on I think it was our last episode or maybe the episode before, because we missed uh where Laurelized outfit got repeated, so somebody called that out to us. But this sweater or the black and red one, she wore it in the episode where Luke came over.

For movie night.

I don't I can't remember if it was in the actual movie Night's scene, but I know she was wearing it in the diner in that episode.

Okay, so with a coat or something. I actually don't remember it.

I can't she had a white blouse on because I remember the collar of the blouse kept changing. But I don't remember the whole outfit in that episode. But but it did like that attractive.

I didn't know, but I did like that tweet red and black coat she wore later on. Yes, yes, that one was really cute. Wish we're going with a red and black theme apparently. Yeah, it's not the holidays either, so it was kind of interesting.

Yeah, it's it's we're in March.

Yeah, I kind of.

It's not my favorite sweater either, but the sweater or the jacket, the vest.

The vest, yeah yeah yeah, but the sweater, the the coat I liked.

Yeah. Yeah.

The only other thing I wrote that I wanted to flag was I thought that the whole thing in the beginning with Kirk was actually pretty funny with the fish pan and then reading I actually because then he's like does no one trust me? Like he had this line like someone.

Believe me in this town?

And that's like the one time he was right, Yes. I thought it was a fun little Kirk moment.

Yes, and he's trying to like translate the lip reading.

Yeah, which was like he was so confident that I was like, what in the world, so very calm.

So we had three repeat actors in this one. We know how they liked to recycle their actors, so we have Okay, so the sales clerk that was in the lingerie store, she was the hostess at the sixty forty bar when Emily and Laurla.

Went to the spa.

Oh okay, and they went to that bar and with Hallandon and yeah, yeah. And then I mean, obviously the major one is cousin Marilyn is Marion Ross, like I think I'm hoping everybody knows that. So that was she was grand and cousin Marylyn. And then the last one, so the minister that shows up for the funeral. He actually played two different characters, so this is the third well this is the second of three times that they used him.

So he was in season one.

He was one of Richard's friends at the golf club.

Well like episode two, yeah, like.

Episode two or three where they go golf theme room.

Yeah, he was one the guys.

Well he was he was at lunch when at lunch okay god yeah, after the steam room when they were having lunch. And then also he was in a Year in the Life the revival. He was the old guy that worked at the newspaper at the Star's Hollow Gazette.

Well, they really spread out his three appearances. Yeah, he's one four in the revival.

Yes, yeah, cool.

It's cool for him to kind of.

Like he passed away earlier this year, so old age.

But yeah he was. Yeah, he was old when he was on Gilmore.

Yeah.

No, yeah, that's why I was like old ach. But that's cool to have that and on his on his resume.

Yeah, and then one other thing to look for the next time you rewatch it. There's a part where I think Lauren almost breaks character and then she recovers. It's in the lingerie store. There's a scene. I can't remember exactly what they're talking about, but it's the back and forth between her and the sales clerk. And there's a scene where they cut to like a medium shot and Lauren starts to laugh and covers her mouth and then she like pulls it back together. And like, you know, walks off behind the scene. But yeah, so watch the next time you watch it, watch Lauren because there's like a it's real quick where she starts to laugh and then she puts her hand over her mouth and then like recovers shock.

They cat that take.

I know I was too.

Maybe I don't know, maybe it was one of those that they only did one take. I don't know, but yeah, that was pretty funny. And then another thing that makes me laugh every time is the scene where Luke and Nicole are. It's in the diner and you hear Luke and Nicole fighting but they haven't come downstairs yet. Yeah, when Luke comes like busting in and he's all yelling at them, and Patty's ordering her salad or whatever, she picks up the marmalade jar and starts eating it with the little, the little tiny serving spoon that he's like scooping the marmalade into her mouth.

That's fun just keeping busy over there.

Yeah, She's like, I'm not getting my food anytime soon, so.

I must let me eat well.

I mean, honestly, that's that was probably it. She was like starving and Luke's over there in the back not paying attention, right.

Because that's when they went outside to go yell at each other.

So it was nice to see Lane back in the in the diner though, Yes, yeah, I like that.

Yeah, it's been a while since we've seen her there, right, well, because she was she was.

At Yale with Rory and so I think she came back.

Well, it was the last episode, the episode before when she was like sleeping on lorale Ice couch.

Yeah, so so in scene in the mall is when she came back.

So it was the.

Episode before she Yeah, yeah, there we go. So you you missed that one, but I watched it.

Yeah, she's just barely come back because that was the episode where she went and picked up all her stuff and Cousins was there and all that.

Yeah.

So yeah, but good, good episode.

It was a good episode.

Yeah. I love Marion Ross, so I'm all happy to watch her.

All right.

So the next episode we're going to be talking about a season four episode seventeen girls in Bikinis, boys doing the Twists.

We'll see you next week.

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IAAI Town Meeting: Unhinged Emily is our Favorite Emily (Season 4 E16 “The Reigning Lorelai”)

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