IAAI Town Meeting: Logan is Making Us Swoon (Season 5 E7 “You Jump, I Jump Jack”)

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Today we're talking about one of the biggest episodes in the series, which is Season 5, Episode 7, You Jump, I Jump Jack, aired November 2nd, 2004. I was telling you right before we started, the second I just clicked start on this episode, I was like, oh, You Jump, I Jump Jack. And I'm not someone who remembers the titles as much, and this is one where I'm like, I know this episode.

Yeah. Yeah. This is, like, a landmark episode in the series, for sure.

Yeah.

And I think you mentioned it's a lot of people's favorites, right?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Like, anybody that, like, all of the Rory Logan shippers, this is, like, their episode.

So, let's just start there.

So, I know I said last week that, like, I understand as an adult being a Logan girl.

And this episode, I was like, get it. I get the appeal.

And I know we get annoyed with him over time and he does things that piss us off.

I know that. But like, man, they couldn't have brought a more charming person into this show.

Yeah. For sure.

Matt Zucree is very charming.

Yes. He's very charismatic for sure.

Yeah.

I mean, little things like from the, you know, I know it comes off the last episode, but they did like a previously on like from like Chatting her in like the AOL messenger to like, and just looking at her as she types to, I don't know the way he's like, the one part I noticed is when he's like, pick the right size dress for her. And I was like, that was so, and also he thought about it. So it's like he was, and then leaving, you know, made sure someone got a photo on her camera and leaving it behind her door with the gorilla.

I mean, listen, that's a girl's dream to have him. someone remember all those details.

Right. Yeah. I, I thought he was very chivalrous. He was very charismatic. The thing about the dress, I didn't, I didn't really like the, I thought the idea was nice that he had a dress for her, but I didn't like the way he said, I have an eye for dress sizes. Like that was kind of creepy. But other than that, I totally agree with you. And it also, like we talked about in the last episode, it, there's this widening gap between Dean and Logan that is becoming apparent.

Like they're really emphasizing how she's, she had pivoted, you know, to Dean at the end of last season, but now we see that she's moving away from Dean and like leaving him behind to go because there, you know, things with Logan, like that's opening up like a whole new world to her. So it's really interesting. kind of emphasizing the difference between Logan and Dean. And so we're starting to see, you know, it's not, it's just hard to meet up with Dean and she has to drive or he has to drive.

And also the Logan stuff just seems way more entertaining than hanging out with Dean.

For sure. Exactly. Like he's just this small town guy and she's going to go, you know, watch him stock shelves at dozies or something like that. Doesn't seem nearly as interesting as going to this forest.

Which, by the way, what a beautiful set.

Yeah. It was nice. It was two different places from what I've read.

Griffith Park.

It was, yeah.

Everything is in Griffith Park. But one of, if you watch it again, I think it was like the nighttime scenes where they were in the camp area with the tents. It's all pine trees. And then when they were, the daytime part when they did the jump, like they were like oak trees or something.

Yeah.

But it was magical, like with the twinkling lights and stuff.

And also, I know it's cool, but when you really think about it, you're like, man, they just basically joined a cult.

I know.

Like when you actually think about it, you're like.

Yeah.

This is weird.

Well, I wanted Logan to answer Rory's questions when she's like, who set this up? Like, who pays for this? Where are we? Who owns the land? Like, I wanted to hear the story about how this all came to be.

But I think that's the cool part about it. Because we never know. It's supposed to be this secret society. And to this day, we don't have those answers.

Yeah. Yeah.

So, I mean, she's being a journalist. She's doing her job. And he did not budge.

Yeah.

Yeah. It was pretty cool. And also I love how like, I think it's in the next episode, right? I haven't watched it yet, but that she writes the article. And wasn't it Doyle's like, how did you get this or something like that?

Wasn't that?

Yeah.

It wasn't this episode, right?

No.

Cause she hasn't turned anything in yet.

Yeah.

Cause at the very end she picks up the camera and stuff from behind her door.

You're right. Right.

Right.

So that's coming. But like, it's just cool to be like, look what she did.

Yeah.

And also when the, um, the gorilla girl, what a terrible name to give her poor girl. She could tell that, like, Rory was charmed by Logan, for sure.

Mm-hmm.

When they're talking.

And she's like, there's a line to get to him.

Her name is Stephanie.

Yeah.

Well, Rory calls her Gorilla Girl.

Yeah.

But, yeah, she, yeah, I mean, the whole, that part of this episode, I loved.

Mm-hmm.

The rest of it, don't care for it.

Really?

Yeah.

Even Luke going to Emily's for dinner. I thought that was hilarious.

I felt really bad. And so it made me just bummed for Luke. Like who do they think they are for like just insulting him for his business and all that.

And so I think that pissed me off.

And the fact that he got like double whammied by both of them like at the dinner and golf.

And then like the point where he's golfing and like basically making fun of him.

For not knowing how to golf.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I can see that.

And so I just felt bad for him. It was entertaining. I just felt bummed. And then the other part is I just feel like the Lane stuff is so cringe.

Yes. Although I had to laugh when they're trying to have their date on the living room couch and Brian comes in and he wedges himself.

I will say that was fun.

And yeah, that made me laugh because he's like, they're like, we're on a date. He's like, but this is what we did last night. Like he was so confused, understandably, because this is exactly what happened last night. And that wasn't a date last night. But now tonight it is a date. I thought.

Yeah.

But generally, yeah.

Even the kiss was weird.

I don't know. Having a date in the living room was cringy to begin with.

But even the kiss.

Yeah.

Like it all.

I know.

Yeah, you're right. A date in the living room. Couldn't you go to like the park at least? I don't know.

Right. I mean, there are options in Stars Hollow. You don't have to just have a date in your living room, but I don't know. I'm not a Zach fan at this point. I like him better later, but I don't like him right now.

Yeah, I think that's why I was like, let's just remember the.

Here's the other thing.

You put Rory and Logan in the same episode having this kind of special moment.

With Zach and Lane. And you're like, well, how am I supposed to compare that?

Right. Like, where is Lane's magic? Like, I want her to have.

She doesn't have any. Right.

I want her to, you know, have some kind of a nice experience, too. Like, Lane always has to settle, and I hate that.

Yeah.

I mean, I know we didn't break down every scene, but that's what the recaps are for.

Yes.

But no, I mean, I love this episode. It's very memorable. I mean, there's literally merch about this episode. Yeah.

Yeah.

Also, I meant to bring this up and I think it may have been.

No, it's this episode in the beginning when Lorelai's wearing the pink coat, right? Oh.

It's the beginning of this episode.

Maybe.

Yeah, it's the beginning of this episode.

She goes to Emily's at the beginning of the episode. I didn't even notice.

And then under the pink coat, she's wearing like a brown and pink heart. And I was like, is it Valentine's? It was very Valentine's Day to me. Yeah. We're definitely in fall.

Yeah, it was... it was it was brown but also hearts so it kind of like yeah it was.

It was cute i was just like what season are we in anyway but i love the episode i didn't have any notes i didn't catch anything i was just thoroughly entertained the whole time.

Yeah the the only note that i had was when emily was giving them drinks and you know she makes sure that luke's luke wants a beer and She already had all the drinks ready on the tray. If you watch her, she just turns around.

She grabs it.

Yeah.

And here's the drinks. And then she's like, the beer is nice and cold. I'm like, how could the beer be nice and cold if it's been sitting there while you were waiting for them to show up?

Unless she just put it there.

Yeah, maybe.

That could be it.

But I thought it was a good episode. I liked the Lorelai and the Gilmore thing just because there was parts of it that were funny. Like, I do totally get that it was not... I mean, they're never very nice to him for no reason other than that they're just snobby. But there were some funny parts. And, like, when he's at the golf course and, you know, laurel is like you stay away from the deboncorn guy like my husband and i just will randomly pull that line out for no reason but yeah so i i did i it went by so quick like it was over so quickly because you're just was action the whole time so yeah definitely definitely a good episode.

Was that your only note the drinks Yeah, I.

Didn't have anything else because I just was watching the episode.

I know.

But also we were so out of our element. There was like nothing really, you know?

Yeah. I do want to shout out to the writers, though, for that whole section of dialogue that did not use the letter E. That must have been hard to write.

Right.

Oh, yeah. I have to give them a shout out.

Oh, by the way, this is a Kenny Ortega episode.

Yes.

I was going to mention that, too. And I forgot.

Did you notice it said Kenneth Ortega? Oh, no, I didn't. It threw me off. And I was like, oh, is it the same person? I mean, I'm sure it is. But it said Kenneth Ortega.

Oh, is that was that different? I can't even remember now other episodes.

I don't know. But I was just like in that moment, I was watching it.

And I'm like, huh, I didn't even pick up on that part.

Yeah i have no idea.

But but that explains why it's so enjoyable.

It does and you know the most memorable episodes have to do with kenny ortega like the other one right off the top of my head is the the dance-a-thon yeah yeah and the one with the dinner table yes that's what.

I was trying to articulate.

That's exactly that's what makes this show and like the writers because that's also the writers like but the direction of that is kenny ortega and like The fact that I can say, oh, when they spin and they're talking, and you're like, I know which episode. By the way, we're watching this during fall season, and let me tell you, it is nice. I had a candle on watching these episodes.

Oh, that's a good idea. I should do that.

Except while we're recording this, it's like 100 degrees outside.

I know. I've got all the air conditioners on right now.

My air conditioner is about to break. It's been on for so many days.

For people who don't know, while we're recording this, there's a heat wave in Los Angeles, and.

It's miserable. So I'm jealous whoever can wear a jacket.

Yeah. My thermometer thing says, let's see, right now it's 4 o'clock in the afternoon, and my thermometer is 87 degrees outside, and that's the coolest that it's been in a week.

Oh, you want to see how hot it is outside my house? You're closer to the beach. Mine says 98. 98. Oh, geez.

Yeah.

I took my dog for a walk. Well, not for a walk.

I just put him out to like go to the bathroom before I went to bed at like 10 o'clock the other night. And it was 85 degrees.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

It's bad.

I have a question for you guys. I'm going to hop in here.

Please do. For you super fans.

Um, before Gilmore Girls, did you guys know about these Yale secret societies? Cause I had no idea.

No, I didn't know.

Like there's Skull and Bones. Apparently George W. Bush was part of it. And like George.

I did.

I did know because you have to remember, I watched this when I was 12. So I think like what literally I was, I was actually just turned 12 when this episode came out. And I think I remember like looking it up to be honest, or like asking someone cause I, I watched it and it's, but then when the DVDs came out, I went back and I'm pretty sure I asked someone. So like, I actually did find out before or after watching the show.

Got it. And they did, they did comment during the episode when they rang the gong, they said it was like the 108th meeting. What I see, I wrote it down. It was, maybe I didn't write it down. It was right before they jumped.

Did they reference it?

Oh, here. Yeah. They said it was the 108th grand assembly. So, Oh, Clearly, like, these societies have been around for.

Yes.

I mean, there's, like, if you Google it, and this AI gives me Skull and Bones, Skrull and Key, Wolf's Head, The Ancient Age.

The one thing, though, Jackie, is I didn't... I haven't looked it up in a long time, is, like, some of the things they do the same.

Uh-huh.

Like, do they wear masks and stuff?

Oh, I don't know. It just says, like, this one. What's the detail of it? One of them has been founded in 1832. Skull and Bones. Yale's first secret society. It's the most famous and notorious. You know, it's... Huh. meets in a windowless stone building known as the tomb.

Because I know about them. Type of thing.

But I know about them, but I don't know, like, if there's ever any details that's come out about it.

And I wonder, too, why Amy Sherman Palladino decided to go this route with Logan, just to contrast what she was, where she's from in Stars Hollow and bring her out of her comfort zone. You know, like, why did she include this?

I was thinking it's just some rich, preppy kid.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah.

But it's, like, big and grand, and it's, like, not subtle at all.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it worked. Yeah, it did.

I mean, it totally made me Google, is there secrets?

But I also wonder if it was a way to get, like, to tap into, like, his family. Because he did mention, was it his grandfather?

Yes, Elias.

Remember the picture?

Yes, when she writes.

Down the name on the Post-it and puts it, it says Elias Huntsberger.

Mm-hmm.

And so I wonder if it was to tap into, like, his family, because obviously, spoiler alert, we find out that the Gilmores know the Huntsburgers, so.

Yeah.

And a way for her to, like, get out of her little, like, Star's Hollow comfort zone.

And another question that I see people bringing up on social media is, why wouldn't Richard have been a part of this? Oh, that's a good point. In that same social echelon, so why would... he not have known about life and death brigade or been in it. I mean, maybe he was, but just never mentioned it, but it's just, it's something interesting to think about.

It does seem like a small group though.

Yeah. I mean, now we don't know what it would have been like when Richard was there.

I'm thinking of, I'm just picturing like all those people who were standing before they jump.

It's like, it can't be more than 15, 20. Right. And there's thousands of kids in the school. So I don't know.

Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know.

But it was a good episode.

Such a good episode.

Jackie, this is your first time. No, you have now, this is your second time around.

Second time.

Yes.

The first time. On this end.

Yes, on this end. The first time I did Google. And then again, when I was, you know, doing prep for this episode, where we just had Catherine Bayliss on. So she's the gorilla girl with Scott. So doing prep for that episode, I looked it up again too.

So fun.

I liked her. I wish she had been in more episodes. I know.

She was really good. What else has she played in, Jackie? Do you know off the top of your head?

This is why we know her. She's Erica Marsh for six episodes in One Tree Hill.

Oh, okay.

Yes.

And then she did Hit the Floor, which is like that cheerleading one, dancing one. And for 41 episodes, she was Kyle Hart. 2013 to 2018, Hit the Floor. And One Tree Hill, she was six episodes, which I think she is Lee Norris's mouth. Yeah, I think it's a love interest for her.

Yeah, when you said the name, I was like, I know that character.

Yes.

All right, well, next week we're going to talk about season five, episode eight, The Party's Over.

We'll see you then.

Meeting adjourned.

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