Interest Rates to 10%: Why the Treasury Market is the Real Speculative Bubble (Not AI) | Russell Clark

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In this episode of Other People's Money, Max Wiethe sits down with hedge fund manager Russell Clark to discuss why he believes the U.S. Treasury market is a much larger and more dangerous speculative bubble than AI. Clark details his macroeconomic outlook, arguing that a shifting political landscape focused on 7% wage growth and lower living costs will eventually push the 10-year Treasury yield up to an astonishing 10%. To stabilize affordability for younger generations, he predicts real estate will remain flat nominally while heavily declining in real terms. Clark also breaks down the massive capital expenditures in AI, viewing them as defensive strategies by legacy tech giants to protect their moats rather than mere speculation. Finally, Clark also warns about sectors reliant on low rates and the severe illiquidity and mispriced risks currently lurking within the private credit and private equity markets.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:38 Why Treasuries Look Risky

04:33 Foreign Reserves Shift from Gold to Bonds

08:59 Politics Turns Inflationary

14:12 Japan Leads

16:09 Wage Inflation Drives Yields

20:37 Sponsor Break SOYB

21:58 High Real Rates New Normal

26:14 Trading Long View vs Noise

29:09 Housing Tug of War

34:02 Politics Converge Anyway

36:03 Chips Are New Oil

38:38 Is AI a Bubble?

44:12 AI and Wage Politics

50:37 Strategic AI Spending

54:17 Leverage Unwind Risks

59:29 Private Credit Red Flags

01:04:13 Wrap Up and Links