202. “She racked up $50K in debt — why should I trust her with money?”

Emma (39) and Dave (39) make $258,000 a year—but they’re stuck in a toxic money dynamic. She built a financial plan during maternity leave. He didn’t believe her. Now, they’re battling over trust, $50K in debt, and whether they can afford a $700K house.
With conflicting money roles—she’s the anxious planner, he’s the passive skeptic—they can’t move forward. In this episode, Ramit breaks down their “chaser/avoider” dynamic, the emotional cost of skepticism, and how to finally create a shared vision.
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