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Astral Therapy & Deep Soul Healing with Mariko Frederick

Samstag, 13. Juni 2026 · 1 h 55

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What if death wasn't the end... but the beginning of remembering who you truly are?

In this profound conversation, Mariko Frederick returns to share what happened after her Near-Death Experience and how it unlocked an extraordinary ability she calls Astral Therapy. Together, we explore parallel realities, higher realms, soul assignments, ascended masters, and the hidden reasons so many people feel called toward something greater in this lifetime.

For the first time publicly, I reveal details from my own Astral Therapy session with Mariko—an experience that took me through alternate timelines, a war-torn reality, a futuristic utopia, and ultimately into a realm beyond form where thousands of guides awaited. The insights from that journey continue to shape my understanding of consciousness, purpose, and the future of humanity. This episode is a powerful reminder that the time for waiting may be over. According to Mariko and the messages she received, humanity stands at a crossroads. The question is no longer whether we will awaken—but whether we will answer the call when it arrives.

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and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul, Its host or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome back to the show returning champion Marico Frederick Hayda.

Marico, Hi, thanks for having me again.

Thank you so much for coming. You are. You are such a unique guest for me, And I'll explain to the audience why when I first met you, you were you came on as a near death experience, and you know, that's how we spoke about your near death experience, that you died, you came back and when you came back you had you know, new abilities, things really changed for you.

And and if anybody's interested in seeing that, we'll put the link in the show notes for you know, for people to go watch that whole conversation about your near death experience. But that was that was kind of you know, when I want to have a near death experience around generally, that's that's it. We're good. You know you did. You told us your story and I generally don't have near death experiences back. Generally sometimes I do, but very rarely.

But for whatever reason, I always had you stuck in the back of my head. It was the weirdest thing. And then you started telling me about astro therapy, and then we did a session of astro therapy. But uh, when we did that, it was one of the more profound things that's ever happened to me spiritually. And we can we'll dive into that in a little bit. But I always had you in the It's just it's not like we talked every week or anything like that. I think six months later or a year later, I just text you and I'm like, hey, do you this is what we're thinking about. Would you like to do it?

And You're like, oh, absolutely, let's let's rock and roll. And now we've worked on a course together, we're working on a series together for Next Level Soul TV as well, and you flew down here to Next Level Soul Studios to do all the shooting and stuff. So it's just you're a very unique person in the in the scope of what we do at Next Level Soul because it's it's rare. It just doesn't happen very often. So you're an amazing you have an amazing energy to you and you're absolutely wonderful. So thank you for being here.

Oh my gosh, thank you for having me. It's been so fun since we first met and the journey that we've had over the past couple of years I've had I've had so much fun. And yeah, I think the near death experience for me, it's like the tip of the iceberg. You know, it's what people kind of like get introduced to me, the story that they find out about.

But for me in my personal life, you know, that was like, I mean not to downplay it, but for me it was kind of a blip. I mean not physically, it was really hard to overcome that. Physically, that was not a fun ten years afterwards, but you know, spiritually and like what I'm here to do and with what i want to share with people, Yeah, it was sort of the tip of the iceberg. So I'm grateful to get to come back and to share more both in the course and everything that we're doing with everybody.

So when you came back, what did you come back with the right like abilities wise and what opened up in you because that really kind of leans us into the rest of the conversation.

Yeah, so I think probably with a lot of people who have endes, we come back with a little bit of the other side, Like we don't come back the same.

Not like a horror story. No, like a horror movie, like all of a sudden, like I brought something back, Cey, that's exactly what it is, Stephen King Petar.

Right, No it wasn't, you know, Thank god, it was not like that.

Don't bring that on.

Maybe a Halloween episode. I don't know.

He came back with me.

No, no, no, I get scared easy, Okay, No, not like that, you bring back the bliss. It's like you come back with this imprint of of the other side with you. You come back like you come back almost like you've been reformatted.

With upgrade infinity.

Yeah, and with the knowledge of it, but not in like an ego look what I know, but more of like, oh, this is who we all are. I'm no different.

I just had to die for this to open up.

The right, Like I had to die for like a second or a little longer than that. Like, and I'm always joking with people like it would be amazing if everyone could just die for a second, because we would all have this understanding of the infinite and infinite love, and everybody would kind of stop fighting and arguing about anything because it doesn't matter. But you come back not with just like the knowledge mentally, but it's like an energetic you're changed, your frequency is completely different, and then it's like you have gosh, it's hard to explain, but it's like you have the library of truth with you in you, in your heart and with all that there is to know and learn. It's just simply love, infinite love.

And I think that's what I came back with. That's what everybody I probably comes back with, is not just an understanding, but that you embody that you are love, we are all love.

Well, you've been given the information, that knowledge, if you will, you've taken the bite of the apple in a way of the tree of knowledge, because you are seeing the truth now where this is not truth, this is an illusion, this is maya, this is a dream. Essentially, this is the matrix.

It's totally the matrix, and we.

Are neo now. But then you've got a glimpse of the other side. And once you get a glimpse of the other side, you can't take that back. You'll learn it no.

I mean it's it's funny because we say a glimpse of the other side, but you're in infinite time, so it's not even a glimpse.

You know.

When I died, I remember they were telling me to come back, and I was like, go back and be who, Like I've been here. People have asked like, how long does it feel? And I'm like, it's infinite. There's not a but I'm like eight hundred years. I don't know because there's not right right, but it's kind of the same, like it felt like hundreds of years. And by the time they told me to go back, I was like, do what, go where? Be who? And it was it was not fun coming back. It was kind of devastating because now I have to go back into the illusion and go figure out how to be this person Monico.

Was not easy, right, So yeah, let's dive into that for a second. Because when people do come back from when people come back from the dead, and it just sounds weird when you say it like that, when people have in near death experience and then come back, there is an acclamation period of how do I deal with this world now with this new information and then also be this person now that I am, like, the old version of you is gone. Stay dead, It's gone. There's a beautiful movie which I hope one day I can get on the platform. It's an older movie from the nineties called Regarding Regarding Henry. Do you remember that movie with Harrison Ford.

I know the movie. I can't remember, you know, I don't remember everything.

But it was Harrison Form and Net Benning. I think I think JJ Abrams wrote it. He might have directed my share, but it was about he was an a whole lawyer, Harrison Ford, and he was just a mean, mean person. Then has an accident, has a brain injury. When he wakes up, he's the sweetest human being on the planet and he has to figure out how to reacclimate to his world where everybody had disdain for him.

He was a very powerful lawyer. But his family, his colleagues, they don't know how to deal with him, and he has to try to deal. So I imagine that's kind of what it's like coming back from a near death experience.

I think, so yeah, and then you have this so yeah, it's almost like you're like, Okay, I'm back in this pretend world. But everyone thinks it's real, so I don't want to like mess with them because they get angry. Some people, oh yeah, or some people have a lot of questions. And honestly, I wasn't ready to talk about it. It took me almost twenty years to talk about it.

And how old were you?

That was twenty nine, So it took I don't know when, it took eighteen seventeen years for me to start getting comfortable something like that, you know, and it's so sacred, it's almost like you. For me, I didn't want to talk about it. There's no human words to talk about it with. So even when we say the words like bliss, infinite love, it's like, you know, it kind of falls short of what that experience truly is. And I think it's important that it's not an experience. It's you that was not me experiencing something that was me experiencing me, me experiencing the soul, a unit of God consciousness, and that's what we all are. And then we come back to this world where people are very human and worried

about stuff that you're like, gosh, that doesn't matter, and you just want to like share that.

It just doesn't it doesn't matter.

What matters is that they're getting out of alignment with their soul and getting in their minds or ego or whatever and arguing about stuff or worrying about stuff. And that's like, that's the hard part. When you come back with so much of the frequency of truth, the frequency of infinite love, how do you then and what do you do to communicate that when nobody there speaks the language of infinity?

So it's like, what do I do?

And then they send you back with an assignment on your soul and I'm like, I don't even First of all, I can't. I'm sick, so I can't like get up and do anything. And second of all, how do I even communicate? Is how do I explain the realms? How do I explain that this isn't the only place? How do I explain that you are all basically essentially a unit of God's consciousness, that we are all one. Yeah, we hear that, but like really feel it and experience it, and I think the weight of that, I'll say, blessing, But also not twenty nine. It was a responsibility. It was a lot. I was completely you're figuring it out still a twenty nine Yeah, I have no idea. Yeah, I have no idea what's going on? And then now

I'm supposed to do this thing.

You had no idea what's going on prior to die? It's right.

I mean no offense to people who are twenty.

Nine, but you know you're trying to figure it out.

Yeah, I mean even people who are old souls and all the things, and like, yeah, we are, but we've only been here twenty nine years, so there's still a lot of figuring out to do.

Yeah, it's kind of fascinating to you know. Sometimes I speak to ascended masters on the show, as one does regular Tuesday. Jesus buddhas coming great. I've had boot on the show and forever. But when you speak to these ascended masters, a question I always asked him was like, what is it like? What was it like being here at the time when humanity's consciousness couldn't even grasp the basic understanding of the Kingdom of Heaven is within you?

Something everything I can do, you can do in more very basic teachings that were revolutionary to the point where he we're speaking of Yeshua where eventually they're like, yeah, we can't have this guy around anymore. Let's take care of this situation, and they and they got rid of him, and that happens to a lot of these masters. But walking around with the knowledge at a very high level.

I mean we're talking about mastery level, and you're basically talking another language, something they can't even only a handful of followers, and even their followers, like the Apostles, are still they were still trying to figure it out. You know, some of them messed up a few things along the way, but it was very it was very difficult. So I could only imagine for someone like yourself coming back, not that you're an ascended master, right, Well, that's the problem.

I'm not so that. I'm just like, I'm just a regular person. What do I do with this?

Yeah, you've been given a glimpse. Yeah, you've been given a glimpse of the other side, and you've also been you've brought back a glimpse, not pet cemetery style, but you brought back a glimpse. I don't want that, no, no, no, no, no, don't. You don't want the creepy kid in the corn or that cat. But you've come back with a bit of that spark of the other side, and you. You are aware of what the truth is. And that's what happens with people when they awaken. That's what's happening around the world right now. People are awakening more and more and more and more consciousness is rising. But then to speak to your family, to speak to your friends, to try to deal with colleagues or careers, and it's so difficult

to kind of navigate your life in that world. And I know you've had challenges. I have.

Yeah, now I'm used to it, and I you know, if I talk to somebody that I knew thirty years ago who only remembers me from that time, it's like, I kind of sweetly joke that it's like talking to my echo. It's who I used to be, and I'm totally good with it now. You know, we could talk about whatever. It's not who I am right now, because it's not just bringing back a glimpse. It's bringing back a piece of the frequency and then embodying the frequency and then taking for me, you know, years and years to figure out how to how to share it with people in a way that's not just words, in a way that helps humanity with their frequency, because me just sharing a story is interesting to some fun, entertaining, but

not changing anything. And what I knew, what I can back with was an assignment to help shift something within people within people. But it's not like they gave me an instruction manual that I could read with, like you know, a list of like here are the ten things you're doing. The ascended masters just shifted my frequency. Like like I've said, it's like giving a box and I couldn't open it and I don't know what's in it.

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And then you got to use it right, like good luck.

You know what this reminds me of. I'm gonna I'm going to kick it back to the eighties. There was a show called the Greatest American Here.

Oh my gosh, I love that show, and that.

He got a super suit without the instruction manual and he just bums around. He can barely fly, but he's he's super strong, but he doesn't know what his own strength. He has no idea what the suit does. The aliens gave him this suit, and that's kind of happened to you. You're the greatest, You're a bumbler because you're bumbling around like you've given me these, but what do I do?

How do I use them? How do I help people?

Right?

Because that's it's kind of like a joke.

Imbody come back. I'm like, seriously, it's a cosmic joke that they play on you. It was, and I'm I'm authentically you know, I'm a goofball, So I am that anyways, and then I've got this thing I'm supposed to do. And then what I didn't know because nobody was telling me, who was there to tell me, was it's not about doing anything, It's about being. So I had to take the years to say, Okay, this did happen. It's okay that it happened to you. It's okay that you might know something. You don't have to be ashamed of it.

You don't have to feel imposter syndrome around it. Which was a huge thing for me, right, Like, shouldn't deepak between this? Like am I even qualified for this?

Oh?

Don't you know me? Yeah?

The impostic?

You kidding me that I'm like a spiritual show for me? What is this? I still look around Hollywood. I'm like I'm looking around, going this is this is Wow? Is this even a thing? I don't understand it. But apparently you know the story. Everyone knows the story or that I was told to do about my spiritual teacher, and I'm like, you're insane and blah blah blah. And four years later we have a million of followers and it's like what is what? Yeah, like how is this a thing?

So I get you. I completely under talk about imposture syndrome. There should be someone else doing this.

And you had to go in four years like I've been doing this for a long time. I got decades.

Oh yeah, it's it's been truncated, no question, I've Yeah, it's been a wild ride. It's been, and it's getting wilder. It is.

It's going to get even wilder.

So you have told me things, So.

Things are things are like hang on to your seat here. So yeah, it's it's a lot when you're here to do. I don't like the word do because people want to like what do I do? Nothing, that's a thing, there's nothing to do. You be the person who can do the thing for you. Your spiritual teacher was like, haha, this is what you're going to do, and you were like, no, things, I can't do that, but you've become the person who can do it. You said yes to what you're meant to do, and now things are growing. And that's really the first thing to do when you feel like you're here to do something more. When you have an assignment on your soul, whatever that is, you don't do anything.

You sit with it, and you become the vibration. You become the frequency. You say yes, even if it's like a little whisper that's like, oh my gosh, okay.

Open that business, write that book, you know, leave that job, yes, this other thing. You know, those little whispers which eventually turn into a sledgehammer. By the way, it starts as a tab a little whisper, little nudge, and then eventually the sledgehammer comes like you're fired from your job and off for you know, or something happens in a relationship and now you you have to leave. You know, kind of thing. I've learned a long time ago to just listen. Yeah, because if not, it just get it doesn't end well for you, because you're going to go there anyway, because that's what you've You've you've made that agreement with your soul.

Your soul made that agreement like you're gonna come down your soul made an agreement like yeah about when you're twenty nine year I'm going to die, and I'm going to need that to set me on my path of what I'm going to do. It's not going to be easy, it's not going to be fun, but this is the way I'm going to do it. And that's that was the plan? Is that? Am I correct exactly? Yeah?

Yeah, I mean I resisted, you know, a little bit more than what you but yeah, I resist resistance.

Yeah, you know, a lot of people don't know. I stopped the show.

Oh wow.

I started it April April twenty first, I think or Easter of twenty twenty one. By the end of the year I was, I stopped. And everyone knows how fat how much content I put out every week. I was doing one every month. Wow, that's how bad. I was just like scared, terrified, Yeah, your syndrome, until I got a kick in the butt by Connie, my teacher, and then I went all in. But it was a big leap of faith, and I've been taking a lot of those lately. You are.

Get used to it.

Yeah, it's a lot of that, but the but the goal is still the same, is to help people. And that's what kind of keeps you going. And the effect that these kind of things that we're doing, you and I both in our own ways, are helping people around the world. You know, this conversation is going to be listened to by a bunch of people.

Yeah, and we're here for a blip, like we're here for I always joke that it's like it's like running to seven eleven. It's like an Erran our soul. It's so fast.

Did you hear Jordan Peterson wrote it, said something so profound the other day I saw it somewhere on social media where it's like, when you die your let's say you die tomorrow, your wife and your kids, let's say you still have a wife, your wife and your kids will prepare the the funeral and they'll prepare the wake, all that stuff, and a day after it's done, they'll maybe laugh about some things you did in the past, and a month later you'll be a faded memory and a year liter and it just starts, and then you start to realize, does it You know, once your kids are gone, who's going to remember? Like if you're lucky you remembered in one hundred years if you're lucky, but most don't, you know, and it's okay, Yeah, you're here

for a moment in a thousand year. How many people from ancient Rome do we remember? I mean really like a few of a handful, right, unless you're a historian. And even then we're talking about kings and emperors that you remember. How about the millions and millions and millions of people that lived in Rome right in the Roman empum, no clue, you know? Egypt? You know, it doesn't at the end of the day, it doesn't matter that you're here for the moments that you're here. Use that time wisely.

And I think as we've both gotten older, you start to realize, like, oh, I think I'm closer to that than I was.

Were halfway done?

I think I don't am I in this road? Like? Am I? Did I pass the halfway pointer? Right? Like I don't? Holy crap, I know, you know, I'm like farther away from when I was born that I'm closer to when this journey is going to be over. And you start to think about things in a very different way. So now it's and even then it's not easy. You're still trying to figure it out because you've got deal stuff every day every day. Now, I want to talk to you about our session. Now, this is something I have never spoken about publicly before, and I'm going I was kind of saving for when we spoke. You told me when we first first at our interview, You're like, hey, I love to give you a therapy session. And I get offered stuff all the time by guests and people

who want to be on the show. Hey, I'll give you a free reading, or I'll give you free that. I'm like, oh, sure, why not? Sometimes I do it. Sometimes I'm like I'm good, thanks. I don't chase the psychic. I literally have a rolodex full of some of the greatest psycho meadiums and channelis in the world. And I never call I rarely, if ever call anybody, going what's going to happen? Like it's not something I do anymore.

But when you recommended, You're like, I could do astro therapy, I'm like, what the hell that's intriguing? What's astro therapy? Can you explain to people what astro therapy is, because it's something that you've brought back.

Yeah, it's something I guess I did. I brought it back, and well, I don't know if I brought it back so much as I've always had it. So you know my story. Well, I didn't remember, like I forgot, but I stayed conscious between lifetimes, and I thought everybody did until I was a teenager, and then I found out we didn't, and I was like, oh jeez. So I've always remembered being in the other realms, being in the higher realms before I was born. I remember who I was in my last life, and for me, it's one long memory, just like the past year is one long memory.

So I remember it, but not in that I forgotten. I'm like recalling it through acastak records or something. I just remember it all. And so when I was young, especially when I was a baby, I would go into the higher realms. I'd go into the causal realm and then I'd come back and be in my body. And so I was always traveling into the higher realms. And then as I got older, in grammar school, I would go into the astrol realm. And when I was going, I had some abuse happen, and to escape the abuse, I would go into the higher realms and hang out there, and so I've just done that my whole life, and I didn't know that not everybody did. I remember specifically thinking that talking about it was taboo and that we

weren't allowed to talk about certain things. Like when I was little, I was in pre school, and I remember I think we talked about this, and I'm not sure what show I talked about this on, but I see lights when I turn off the lights at night. To me, there's like millions of little lights. When I was younger, there were bigger lights and there were different colors sometimes, and I remember seeing them floating by, and I kept reaching out, like I can get one of those, because no one told me I couldn't. So I was reaching and reaching. I'd kind of like go right through the air, and then eventually I grabbed one. And I woke up with this astrally projected object in my hand, and it was shaped like kind of a toy. It was a

It was an animal head with a with a human long human body and in the eighties, totally yeah, so.

That's a thundercat. So I so.

The adults around me were like, where did you get that? Where did thinking I stole it from toys r us, you know, as kids kind of sometimes grab stuff. We have kids, like they're like, oh, like have we paid for that? You know?

Yes, my mom asked me to go pick up something in the supermarket. I started putting. I was like fine, yeah, She's like, I think you're stealing the yogurt. I'm like what, I'm just carrying all of them.

Right, We're following instructions. So I realized that it was like a bad thing. So I put it in the cookie jar and we'd check on it every every once in a while, and it was there until it wasn't and it just disappeared. So but in that moment, I got kind of afraid of myself, like I wasn't supposed to do that, and they think I'm lying because I'm They're like, where'd you get it? I'm like the light, Like bedtime is amazing, right, I don't know, we don't talk about this. I must have been the easiest kid to put down, like bedtime, And I'm like, yes, maybe so much fun to giving.

What did you get last night? Why are we not talking about this? This is amazing?

I used to think that, Like I get so excited and just think like, my parents must be having so much fun. My sister like, oh my gosh, what are the kidding? Where are they going? Apparently not or they were, and they just don't remember astroal traveling. You know, that could happen too dreams. So because we don't trust ourselves, so I come, I just stopped talking about it, and then I got sort of the next layer of that as a teen, when he was eighteen or nineteen, I can't remember when when someone told me that people don't remember those kind of things, and I was like, oh my gosh, I shouldn't talk about it. So when I died and came back, I knew in my heart and soul that I was meant to, but I was also like,

I will show all kinds of things, but not that one. So it was it was a journey of discovering that or more giving myself permission that it's okay, I'm here for a second, it's not a big deal, and I'm going to do what I'm here to do. And then as we get older, we really start caring less about others opinions.

It's just magical, as as the eighty year old without his shirt on gets out in the middle of the morning to go get his paper because he still gets a paper, and he's just like you do, and just like does not love it care in the least.

No, it's as older you get, the less f's you give. And I think that's.

Also why it took us so long, because we had to get through that, because you don't realize.

As you get older, you just start to realize how it's like things that you worried about in your twenties or thirties or forties, you start to like, oh my god, things that remember high school anything. And we both have kids, so both of us have about similar age kids. My god, everything. It's like, oh my god, don't say that, Oh my god, don't do that. Oh my god, you're embarrassing me. Oh my god, oh my god, all this crap. And we're and you're like, you're not gonna know these kids in five years. You think you're gonna be besties.

With it, like short maybe, yeah, maybe, but.

That's rare, Like, so just enjoy your life. If they're your true freendsident care, enjoy yourself. So it's it's fat but as you get older, you start to just really not care, especially if you've died and come back, then you really don't care.

I mean sort of, but also I did. I was afraid, afraid of different things. But like what people think of me and the things I'm like whatever, Like it doesn't matter, you know. I mean, I died. I've already died the idea of like getting fit and looking my best. I'm like, I'm happy to be walking and talking. So perspective, you're my perspective changed real quick.

So what is astro therapy? So?

Astro therapy is what I was doing when I was little. It's what I've always done. It's going into the higher realms. Only I figured out that instead of me going and getting the answers and telling people in a session or whatever I'm doing, why not come with me? Like, wouldn't that be more fun? So I developed astrol therapy as a way for me to bring people into the highest realm that they've been incarnating in, or at the very least, the astral realm, which is where most people go after do we die? A realm of light and vibration. Yeah, actually there's other emotions there too. Oh yeah, it's not always fun.

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So I bring people, at the very least to the astral world where they can experience a little more of the truth of who they are and for what I call higher realm beings. I like to take them to the highest realm that they've ever incarnated in and are accustomed to, to get re acclimated to their truth as a higher realm being, so that they can stop acting so human, get to work, do whatever they're here to do.

Write the book, write the song, put out the podcast, speak on stage, whatever the thing is in inventing. Yeah, it could be new tech, it could be anything. It doesn't have to be spiritual. But whatever you're here to do, the higher realm being that you are is ready. The human is the one waiting and figuring it out and having imposter syndrome. But your higher realm being, the truth of who you truly are, that part has the whole blueprint, is ready to go, has a plan, knows what to do, and so I just find it faster and more efficient because again we're halfway done here. I don't have a lot of time to get I don't have a lot of patience. E there sometimes let me talked about parenting earlier.

That was funny. So I figure it's efficient to say, why don't you like, I'll bring you up to the higher realms, go experience who you are. Let's go chitchat with your higher realm guides, your intergalactic team, your angelic realm team, your dragon team, whoever that is. You go get the downloads and the codes from them, because now this isn't secondhand, it's not coming through me. And then they download so that you get the experience too, because I think, well, it's more powerful as an individual to have the frequency. Like I said, I came back with the new frequency. It wasn't just knowledge and an experience.

So if everybody can like go up with me to go get the new frequency, the new light codes, whatever you want to call them, and come back down and then get your butt to work, because the world literally needs these people to wake up and start moving in a higher right because otherwise the lower realm beings and they're here too, are having a great time breaking havoc on this world with all the I'm not going to name all of it, but all the really bad things we see happening. Yeah, the trafficking, it's terrible. It's all the people that are like lower realm and Earth is a sea average, so we all the.

Lower realm are these just loss souls?

You know. Here's the thing. We're all one, right, So is anyone really lost or we just playing our role? So I think of it as like a person. And if you're a being and we're all one, and we're one being. Some people are at the level of the eyes and the nose and the ears, and some people are at the level of the knees and the toes.

So the lower beings at the level of the knees, the toes, the ankles, the higher beings the eyebrows, the ears. But we don't want to cut the lower beings off because we need our ankles and toes. We want that we're all one. And most people are in the middle because we're a c average planet. But even the people in the middle are moving up and the people at the lower realms, we're all ascending. But the more the higher roalme beings start to wake up and get to work and ascend, we shift everybody up. And that's why I'm just trying to get more efficient and get the people who are maybe I don't know any no one listens to your show. Who's average butt. But the masses.

You want to wake them up so that they start elevating, because that also brings up the lower realm beings and the higher roalme beings who are sitting here having imposter syndrome around like, oh gosh, you know, enlightenments only for Buddha, enlightenments only. I'm like, oh, good Lord, plea, No, it's not, it's for you. He did say you can do everything.

You don't have to do the wine thing. He did, you know, but he was a millennial, so good for him. You don't have to walk on water. But you can radiate the truth of your soul, which is simply love. You can do that. It's not hard, and it's not only for Buddha in Christ and Krishna.

Yeah, exactly at all. So when we went into our session, what I find fascinating is, you know, I was skeptical. I'm a very skeptical guy. As a general statement. I'm very open and I accept a lot of things. And like, if you're channeling cool, do I know if it's if it's an alien being coming, if it's the Palladians. Is it really in a sented mat I don't know, but I can feel energy and I can also hear what they're saying. So if what they're saying is something really profound in helping people, I don't care how it gets here.

It's up to that. It's fine. So I'm a skeptical person. I'm pretty grounded for the most part, but I am very accepting of a lot of weird ideas. But I'm always questioning things. So like when we went into our session, I'm like, as we're starting to go through it, and we're going to go and we're going to go into some detail about it. But as we're going through it, I'm like, am I making this up? Am I just making I'm like, am I making this up? You know, I've done a past life regression. I've done two astrotherrapies with you as of today, and the first one we're gonna talk about the first one. The second one not so much, but the first one we'll discuss a little bit.

But as we're going through it, I'm thinking, am I just she's guiding me? Am I just making stuff up? But then things start showing up in the brain that I'm like, I can't. I can't even make this stuff up, Like I just it wouldn't occur to me to make up what I'm seeing. So these images are coming in and I think, what's interesting, and I think this happens with psychics, with me and with channelers, is to allow yourself the ability to just accept whatever comes in and not question it, which is what we do. The ego mind or the the other side of the brain, analytical minds trying to break this down, trying to wrap their head around right, it's head around it, but there's nothing to wrap So as we were going through it, well,

what I found fascinating and then we'll go through the details of it. But what I found fascinating is you were telling me what.

I was seeing at the same time, right And at that point.

I'm like, oh, we're in a different journey right now. We left Kansas, this a long time ago, so you were telling me, yeah, so you're seeing this now. I'm like some of them see, like, how do you know what's in my head? Like, Okay, we're going here, we're doing that, we're doing that. What was really interesting, Well, we'll get to that part. It was so much stuff that was happening in that one, So we go in, can you explain to people what the process is? And obviously the course that we're going to be talking that we'll talk a little bit about later, but the one that we've recorded for Mastery for next levels OL Mastery is how to do astro therapy for yourself essentially, But can you explain the basic concept of astrotherapy and what

like typical session is without going into great detail as far as exactly mechanics.

Well, because everyone's different, right, Everyone's going to have a different experience, And I think the important thing is what you touched on, which is trusting yourself, you know people, And I had trouble too after my near death. I was like, did that happen? Yes, it happened, But even understanding that this happened, I still had doubts. And so I think the greatest issue that most of the humanity is having right now is they don't trust themselves. Because if we could trust our intuition, we'd have a whole different world, amen, you know, and we don't. So part of it's giving yourself permission to trust yourself that you are a higher realm being, that you have been incarnating on higher realms that you're not from here, and for

those it's easy to go right. I'm just connecting with my astral body, which is always here. We all understand we have an energy body. It's not just the chakra system and the aura. There's a lot more going on, especially if you're from a different realm, You've got a whole different energy system from that realm. A lot of people, so astral therapy is essentially connecting your consciousness and your awareness of self, not necessarily a physical body. You can stay in your physical body. For me, astral travel is not this phenomenon of I left my body and I don't feel myself anymore. No, well, you're welcome to stay grounded in your body and be connected to your astral body, your astral self, your soul if you will. And then

from there we go into I open up portals and we go through into the astral realm. From there, we can go forward in time, we can go backwards in time, find timelines wherever we're going. Heal things clear, Things get very clear with you obviously shocker into a lot of different dimensions.

Yeah, it was that when we were going through our first session you went to a place like I've never gone this high, Like where are we We're going to a really high level here. I'm like, all right, let's it's fascinating. Cause for me, I'm like, all right, cool, let's I have no idea what's happening. But we went to different really really We'll talk about that highest level in a minute, but all right, so let's let's get into this. Like I said, I'd never have spoken about this publicly on the show before, and I just think it's interesting and it's something that hopefully will help people.

So we start our session and you tell me, okay, who do you want to guide you? And the first person that shows up is a shocker. Yoga Nanda shows up and I'm like, oh, hi, how you doing paramons? And he's like, how you doing? Let's and he's the one that's guiding me through this whole process. And we start opening. You're like, okay, we're going to open a portal, and in the back of my head, I'm going there's some crazy stuff.

Going on right here.

Really absolutely, I was like, I'm like, okay, I obviously Yoga na It's not like Krishna showed up, like, no, yoga. Nanda showed up because I have a deep connection with yoga, so he showed up, and I'm like, I'm making it. I'm literally in my mind, I'm like, I'm making this up. This is I'm like, let's just go for it. Let's just go on the ride, let's see what happens. But you're like, okay, So Yogananda opens up a portal and we go into this first I guess parallel reality.

Yeah, for you, it was a it was an alternate dimension and a parallel version version.

Yeah, And there I was. I saw a basically a the dope, like a basically a bombed out reality like it was war torn everything, and I saw a young version of myself sitting on a rock crying, and he was a I guess he was a young man. He must have been in his teens. And I'm like, again, I'm pretty creative. I don't even like I'm like, at this point, I'm starting to get away from this is crazy to like what the hell is happening, which then gets even weirder, as it's a lot weirder as we go forward through it. So then I'm sitting there and it's almost like it's it's a weird experience because it's not real time. It's not like you're watching a movie.

It's images that are kind of like sent in different sequences. So I see that first, I do look around and I can see things.

It's like a broll click, yeah.

A bunch of different things. Yogan Nanda's hanging out. He didn't say much. He did say he was just hanging out, and all of a sudden, he's you could see he's crying, but then he's really angry about what has happened to his planet, his reality. And then I remember him bursting out in almost a Japanese anime. I said that to you, I said Japanese anime motion that he's yelling out and he just jumps up and he's like frozen in the air, like so angry. And I'm just like, what is happening.

I haven't taken anything. I can't we imagine if I took actual payote what happened to me. So I was like, this is really weird. She's like, okay, let's go to the next one. So then I leave the portal. I'm in this in between worlds like this kind of like for me, it was almost like contact the movie Contact, like when she's going in between world. It seemed like that, but a lot less aggressive than it was in the movie.

So I'm sitting there, and then another and then Yogunda opens up another portal and I walk in through that one, and then that one. Let me see if I remember correctly, it was that one. Then we went into Oh, yes, this was weird. So this is the war planet.

Yeah, that was weird.

That was really weird.

That should be a.

That is I'll make one. All of a sudden, I see a battlefield and it's and it's me in one of these. Uh. I'd say it's kind of like one of these walkers from Avatar and from Alien if you remember Aliens, the walker that she's walking around with, like she beats up the queen Alien or Avatar, those things that the guy the men jump into the fight the Avatars.

I was in something like that, but I was surrounded by and I forget the term of it when a circle is circling another circle and another circle.

Because it was bigger.

Yeah, it was, it was around, it was and that's I guess the protection of it. But I forgot what that gimbal. I forgot what it's called but it's like just all this kind of stuff. And then the creatures we were fighting were like giant headless gorillas, monsters but they had no heads. And they're just like, we're just making a just crazy and there's a bunch of us fighting this all up, and it's a very dark world.

And I'm sitting there just watching it, going what is happening? And you're telling me. You're like, oh, what is happening. I'm not telling you this stuff and You're like, oh God, what are those things look like? And I'm like, how are you get out of my head? Marie, God, you're big too. They were, Oh no, we're talking about you know, thirty four. We were huge, Yeah, high. I mean they were monsters.

I mean the thing you're in was big too, Yeah, but it was it was smaller than the thing. The creatures.

It almost felt like Pacific rim where like I'm fighting these giants, yeah, giant alien monsters. It was crazy. So then all of a sudden, in the middle of that battle, I kind of transcend in the machine. I turned, I start to glow white, and I started to levitate outside of it, and I'm like almost ascending, like an ascended master, if you will, Angel like almost and I just start glowing white light and these things freak the hell out and start just scattering everywhere, and I'm like, I'm watching all of this, and I'm like, I'm not making this up.

You're telling me this is happening as i'm seeing. You're like, oh now you look, get out of my head. It's very strange. It's very very strange. And I'm like, what is happening right now? That this is crazy? And then and we'll do a download afterwards, you and I do you do a download afterwards and kind of like a recap and explain what happening because I don't know what's happening.

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show. So then you're like, okay, it's time to go. I'm like, I think it is. So wait.

Do you remember when that version of you stopped and looked at us? It was like I forgot okay. So there's a point where we're about to go and he stops and looks at you and is basically like, I'm holding this realm. Could you go get to work in your little cush life over there? Essentially, that's what he was saying.

Oh my gosh, he.

Is aware you, the alternate you was aware that we were there. He's fighting this.

War and going like, in this realm, what.

Are you second guessing with your hat and you have this more cush life we all do because other versions of us are fighting other battles.

That's a really powerful idea that there is. Well, obviously, the concept of the multiverse been around for thousands of years. The Vedicts talked about the multiverse all of that stuff, that there are multiple versions of ourselves in this lifetime, but in different versions of ourselves, and not just in this world, parallel world as well. So there are different versions of this conversation endlessly happening around the world. But there's also the war planet. There is also the other one that apparently he lost that battle and he was very angry. The very first the teenage version of it was very.

Very I could like it was so heartbreaking.

It was horrible. I felt it, I felt the feelings of what I was wasting. The oddest experience but profound experience of my spiritual life. And I've had a few things happened to me over the years, but this is the one that really stuck with me. And then you're like, Okay, it's time to go. And I found that so fascinating that another version of myself is battling in another reality.

So I could do.

This and you also got a glimpse of what happens if you lose, if we lose, the devastation.

Like right, So that was the first step, the first step. Yeah, So the very first one was that. The very second one was the battle of it. It's almost like we're Christmas Carol. I'm like, I'm literally I'm like Scrooge and you're like taking me through Christmas Path, Christmas Present, of Christmas future. It's it's really great. So the past one was the past one. Then there's the current one. I guess that was going on. But then we left and we go to another one and in this one, we're in a utopia and it was these we go into this.

I know I sound crazy, everybody, this sounds it's crazy to me talking about it, but this is what happened, and I have a witness that was explained what was going on.

It happened.

And again before I even continue, I don't care if you believe or you don't believe. I just know what it felt for me, kind of like I don't believe if I don't believe, I don't care if you believe I died or didn't die. I know what happened. So it's kind of similar in that sense. Like, but what I felt from it, it was profound. So even if I was making it all up, I'm pretty profound within myself that I've made these things up. I'm made you imagine that I could feel these things. It wasn't just a witnessing. It was a feeling of it. So the next one, we go in and I'm in this kind of bubble city. So we're in this I can see it very clear, these giant buildings, but very futuristic. We're enclosed in this kind of almost dome glass dome of

some sort, and everything's beautiful.

Everything like a force field actually, yeah, something like that.

That, yeah, exactly, some sort of dome of some sort, yea, And everything's perfect. Everything's beautiful. And there's these beings there who are again versions of me, but that's this is not a human version. This is a very tall The only thing I can I can kind of connect it to where the i'm's going to geek out here a little bit. In Star Wars Attack of the Clones, the species of alien that made the Clones very tall, lanky, tall necks, but they were not exactly that. There were versions of that, and they were very peaceful, and they're like, oh, we're so happy you're here. This is nice. This is what it could be. And that's the feeling, like I this is where it could go. This is where we can go as a species, to this beautiful, peaceful, blissful place.

So we're going through all of that. Yoganana's hanging out in the corner just watching the whole thing with me, and then then that's this is when it starts to get a little interesting and I might need some help from you. Recollecting as much as you can. We come out and you're like, Alex, would you like to go to the higher higher realms. I've never been here before.

And I'm like sure, let's go, and You're like okay. And it was almost like we got into an elevator. I remember, this is my recollection, Please correct me if I'm wrong. We got into an elevator of some sort and we were just shooting up like passing, do not pass? Go do not collecting. It's just like straight up. And when we get to this place, it's almost like I can't say it's heaven. But the floor was clouds.

Yeah, it was cloud Yeah. It was a non corporal right completely.

There's no there's no structures, there's nothing. It was just kind of like this light clouds were the I guess this the floor, and there's not really a floor.

It's not really like a realm of yeah, just light and light.

But I remember clouds. I remember some sort of clouds around where the floor would be. As I'm recollecting this story, it's still like a little nutty. And then I see all of my guides, all of them, and there's thousands.

Well I think it was from all the dimensions or something, because it was all of them.

It was it was you were like, what is like it was all yeah, I don't know, I mean I could. It was like seeing a sea of beings, all light beings essentially, And they turn and they look at me and they're so happy to see me. And then one of them moves forward and I don't remember anything after that. We have the recording. I should go back and watch it.

I remember that he was kind of like or that being was the spokesperson of the of the whole kind of like a like a group entity, kind of like when you channel you know, THEO, like she channels THEO. It's a group of angels that walks through this one this one voice. It was something similar. What do you remember from that because I don't. I don't remember what was said. What I just remember. I knew who they were right away, Like I wasn't like, who are all these beings? I knew, I'm like, these are these are my guides? Holy crap, this is my this is like my spirit team.

It's like but it was all all of them, from all that from the multiverse.

It was it's like seeing a seed that you had no end. And then they all turned and looked at me, no eyes, and just I just saw their energy coming towards me, and it was like this thing I was just it was just so bizarre, but I felt it. I felt the love, I felt the bliss I felt. I just when you're in the astro realm, there's a knowing.

Yeah, you remember, you just know who.

That person is or that thing is or where we are, Like you just know it's no one's telling you. No one's explaining, hey, Alex, these are all your spirit gud No, It's just what it is. So it was very it was very just amazing. So what do you remember.

From that, I mean from my experience of it was being in a realm of infinite consciousness. And so while you saw the guides and we could feel their presence and feel they were just beaming with infinite joy, for me I was experiencing you receive that love. Understand, you know, the assignment on your soul is much bigger than you.

Spans not just this universe, not just this dimension, but it ripples out into all the other us and all the other into the multiverse. And so make no pressure, but like this version of you has a lot to get done. And so what it felt like to me was getting kids, shifting the multiverse. It's like, you know, it's Tuesday. So for you it felt like getting an I don't even say download because you can't download so much.

But it was this merging of remembrance, of saying, this is who you are, this is who you were here to be giving you that, and then watching you your consciousness, your your your your consciousness, really your your energy. More than energy, sync up with all of it and move into oneess consciousness, and so the highest realm was just one is consciousness where there is no one. And so eventually that's what I was experiencing, was just watching. There's no words, just watching you be saying nothing, just watching you.

That that that unit of God's consciousness returned to God's consciousness and then just be in the infinite band of love and consciousness. So that's what I was witnessing.

Yeah, I don't remember them saying anything.

There's nothing to say.

Yeah, it was, and I don't remember that the download, I don't remember it. Logically, no, there was.

Mentally, you can't take it in. That's what I'm saying. When we die and we get all this stuff, there's no words to be like you're going to do this, it's like ooh, it's instant, you became it.

It's just there. You're just done. Like, yeah, if you asked the question in your mind, it answer it is being It's answered in less than a second. It's instantly answering. Yeah. It's way more efficient, very much more efficient than this this clunky language that we have to constantly change depending on the region of the world. We're at or the age of our kids. Riz, bro, you have a lot of aurae. Okay, so hold on, hold on, I got it.

I gotta say this for every parent listening. I've I've I listened. I heard I heard this somewhere and I thought this was genius. If you want to one know, if you have kids who say six seven constantly, every time they say six to seven in front of you, all you have to do is they'll go six seven and then you'll go eight nine, and it pisses them off so badly it freaks them out and they'll stop doing it in front of you. So it's a it's a little tip from Uncle Alex.

Wait to try it on nine.

Try it. Please leave in the comments what happens, because trust me, it will piss them off and it just and they're they can't compute what's happening. They're like, wait a minute, we're the only ridiculous ones here. You can't be ridiculous too, like eight nine eight nine, eight nine, brilliant. It's brilliant. I've seen it. I've seen it work on my kids and on other kids. It freaks them out.

It's wonderful. But yes, different languages that are constantly changing is not as efficient. So then I came back and we had this download explaining the whole thing. Can you do you remember a lot of the things that I might have not recalled in this or did I recall it?

Pretty you recalled most of it. I think the big thing, you know, the last part I do is what it's a download's an imprint. I call it an astral imprint where I bring the teachings of what they're trying to share with you through words, through frequency, and like imprint it with like codes into you or they essentially do right, I'm here, but they're you know, not gonna yoga nandas I'm not doing a better job than him whatever he wants to do, I'm like, cool man, I like whatever you need to do is fine. So that was the astral imprint of like, this is what you're becoming, this is what you're here to be, this is who you're here to be. Go be it. We get that download but for you again. In the end, essentially it was like, yes,

next level soul has to grow, it has to it will, more opportunities will come, All the things that are coming will come. And it was I mean It's interesting because with you, you know, I think a lot of your guests like we're here to change the world, We're here to help, but you're providing the platform for people to do that. So for you, there's a lot more at stake.

It felt like you had like the burden of like actually doing it. Like I could say, oh, I'm just here to we have to be, but you actually have a lot to do. And there was so I felt like they were giving you the support structure to do so you could become the person that can do because I mean, if you think next level souls big, now, like give them a minute, and it's it's going to grow.

And again I believe it has to grow beyond your life time the work you're doing. And that's why it was just it was very important not just to you and and the people that watch today, but to humanity. And so essentially they were like, this is why you're doing it, this is what you have to do, this is who you have to be to do it. Let's give you the energetic, the frequency, upgrade, the support so that you can because it has to live beyond you.

Like it's important, but.

Marico, it's it's a that's a lot.

I know, I don't end you. It is heavy.

It's heavy. Yeah, it's a heavy it's heavy. Like when I mean, I've heard this before from others again, so many psychics, so many channelers. I've heard of this before, but seeing it and feeling it through this astrotherapy was very different. For whatever reason. It's just the path that we're doing right now. But it's it's a lot. And I say that it's a lot, not just for me, but even for yourself and others who are trying to awaken the planet. This is a very heavy job for a lot of people. Some are heavier than others, some are smaller than others. It doesn't have to be this grandiose thing that you have to reach billions and billions of people. It can be your community, it can be doing one on ones. It can be doing you know,

events and in smaller things that reaches hundreds of people or thousands of people as opposed to billions. Everyone has their own path. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor and now back to the show. But it's still a challenge, especially in today's world, which has gotten a lot of I mean, these conversations are going out and a lot of people are watching.

It not have happened in nineteen eighty four.

We would have been stoned. No, I don't think we would have been ston Well, it depends on where we were in the world. We would have been stoned. But that's why it's always fun for me to talk to people who were doing this work in the eighties and in the seventies, because they I'm like, man, can't it couldn't have been your channeling? Are you out what You're basically being possessed? You know? And I mean I can depending on where you were. I mean, if you're in San Francisco, you're probably going to be a little bit more accepted. But if you're in the middle of the Bible Belt, good luck. You know. I can only imagine what they went through. So it's always fascinated me to talk to how that was. But now they look at

things like I can't now everyone's coming out like I'm a channeler, I'm a psychic medium now you know I do this? Or I died. I'm like, you might have just been hungover. No, no, I've died. I saw something. I'm like, Okay, tell us what you did you know, So it's it's interesting now it's kind of like I wouldn't say it's the cool kids, but it's a lot more acceptable than it.

Yeah.

Yeah, people are just more open to it. Before they would recoil. And don't get me wrong, there are still people who recoil, sure, but nowadays people are much much more open to a conversation like this about astro.

There well, a lot of them they've had an experience too, so it's not just that they've shifted their open I mean, I think in general the frequency. You know, thankfully the people in the sixties, seventies, eighties were working on the frequency of the planet and so then we can hold more consciousness and have these conversations, and a lot of them opened up that pathway for us. But I think that because of that, there's more experiences, whether they're having it in a yoga class or meditating at home. So they are more open because they it's not like you said, it's not like they heard about it, but they experienced it, or it needs to happen a lot.

More, and that's what a lot of people have has happened with a lot of the episodes that come out, people feel the transmissions people feel, feel the energy. I had a friend of our mutual friend of ours who did an astrotherapy with you, and they said it was one of the most profound things that they ever experienced.

It's a pretty powerful thing, dis astrotherapy. So we'll talk a little bit about the course and a bit. But but you're also a kind of a channel as well, right, you channel information, but you're not a chance channel.

I'm not a chance to me. It's like, really really, I feel like it's really really really fast conversations. Okay, like it's happening so fast that it's just happening in real time. But yeah, I guess you know that is channeling.

So you're yeah, you're not trans channeling. You're not bringing someone.

In or anything like that.

They can stay over there.

They can stay over there. But you so like, if we start having a conversation, I'm like, hey, can we And do you know who it is? Do you know what it is?

It's the ascended masters. I think it's the people the ascended masters that So it's always been hard to say who because when I had my ND there were four beings were they're downloading me and giving me information, not wordless. There was no again, I wish there was an instruction manual. And I feel like it's it is correct. It is the four of them, but they're not guides in a way that we can comprehend on earth. Because I have been trying to comprehend them as a guide, and I realize they're not guides. They're not just ascended masters for me, they're like higher realm, alternate dimensional ascended masters. That's the end.

So there are sended masters from another reality, yes.

A higher realm and alternate realities.

So they're like the Jesus in the Buddha of their reality.

Kind of they're saying correct, okay, but again it's like not quite the right way.

I'm just trying to wrap our head. I know, I'm trying to.

Like honestly, give me better words, you know, I do that all the time, like I'm human, give me human words because I can't explain this. But that's correct. It's kind of like they are the ascended masters, but from a different reality that we haven't wrapped our head around. And so they're here because they want people to be able to go and connect with their astral self, their causal self, their soul. I mean, that's the end goal.

What is my purpose? Enlightenment, That's it. It's really simple here, you know, right.

But and when you say enlightenment, a lot of people think that's a destination, but it's not. It's not.

It can happen right now.

And then now you have to continue this journey with that knowledge, with that information, which happens. I mean Buddha became enlightened and lived decades right.

An accountant.

Lehir Masha was an accountant and a family many householder. Yeah, I always I always look at him as one of my heroes because it's real easy. It's easier to become enlightened when you can just focus on you all the time, go into a into a cave in the Mlayas and meditate for twenty years and not have to have any other worries. But when you have a family and kids and worldly issues and still be a master like he was who brought Korea yoga back to us and taught taught which then taught yoga Nanda and then baba Ji showed up and and Babaji worked with the Yeshawa and all of that stuff. I always look at him with a lot of love. I'm like, man, how'd you do it? Brother?

But I think that is the new spiritual teacher today has to see.

Yeah, the guru that is by himself, and there are still those, and that's fine, amazing, but I think that I think I heard this from somewhere and I forgot who said it, whether it be the Dali Lama or another master that's walking right now that said we need to come out of the caves and come down and become the CEOs, become the leaders that we need because the era of just the enlightened, you know, Buddha is we need more now, meaning that we need active participants, not just information and not just being. There are those still in Goblin and I've had some of them on the show, but that's what you need to be out in the world. You need to Like, if if Yeshavah or Buddha were alive today, they would be on social media.

They would they would have a YouTube channel, and they would not be broke, and they would not be.

Broke because it's okay to make a little money. It is as a spiritual person, which is a thing that pisses me off so much that you have to, oh, you can't make any money money, Well, how do you think this stuff gets made?

Yeah, I mean we have cell phones and we have to pay for these, and we have you know.

A staff kids, Yeah, it's a staff and all this stuff. I mean even taxes. Yeah, even the gurus in India they have people that are paying for them to eat, for them, to maintain the property. You know, there's there is real world things.

We have to be practical to exactly. But I love you brought up the CEO because I'm a big believer that. You know, the way I want to run my company is I want people working with me, not for me. They work with me whose sole assignment is to work with sole prity, whose soul assignment is doing what they're here to do. And I think, imagine if the companies out there started attracting the people that are working with them, not in a hierarchy, because it's what they're meant to do, And how much more productive would that company be if every single person there, from the CFO to the sales team to the people cleaning, or like, this is the environment I meant to be in, not because their resume says that they're qualified, not because they went to the

right school necessarily, but because it's what their soul is here to do, and that's my team. And I'm really blessed that I have that, and I want that for everybody because there's such ease and even more abundance because everybody's doing what they're meant to do, and that is allowing everybody to live their spiritual life all day long because they're in alignment with their soul. They're in alignment with their soul assignment. So as a CEO, you're going to be more profitable, You're going to make more and be okay pay your bills because everybody working with you is in alignment with your soul mission. It's their sole mission too. And I want that so bad before. I would love to see that before I leave this world.

I don't know if I will, but I think more companies are waking up.

I think more companies are starting to wake up, and I think that things are changing. I know it doesn't seem like it, because if you look at the news, everything is you know, hell.

I just don't look at the news.

I stopped looking at the news a long long time ago, and my wife always like, don't you want to know what's going on.

I'm like, no, well, that's my next level. Soul TV is great because then people could just stay in that bubble because obviously what we think about is what we're manifesting. So if we just.

Conscious, conscious thoughts, conscious media, and it is very important what you feed your body, but also what you feed your mind with the energy that comes in, you know. So, I mean sometimes I'll look at movies that I absolutely adored in the eighties and I'll go look at it. I'm like, that doesn't resonate anymore. Like I can't watch blood Sport anymore. Like, no, I can't. I can still watch Predator, though, it's so it's so good.

I mean, they have done a lot of remakes. I mean the first one it's just so it was so scary. I have the noise that thing made that clicking.

Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry everyone for my horrible Predator impression. And die Hard is a Christmas movie. It totally is.

Thank you.

Anyone who says it's not listen, Okay, Bruce will say it's not. He said it is somebody else.

Okay, yeah, he said it is. So people get Okay, let's because we're recording this around Christmas time. So I love to talk about Diehard in my in my former life as a podcast host in the film industry, I actually had a statistician come on who all he does is crunch numbers all day? And he proved without a shadow of a doubt that Diehard is a Christmas movie.

And some of the key moments of that is one every December, Google searches for die Hard goes skyrocketing people wanting to watch it. So that's indication one that people believe, whether you believe it's it is or it is and it's irrelevant, people do watch it during the holiday, so hence it makes it a Christmas movie. There is more Christmas references in die Hard than there Isn't Home Alone.

Really, Oh I love that he.

Went frame by frame, more Christmas trees, more this, and they actually say Christmas I think more times in die Hard than they do oh my, oh no, yeah, it's and if you start seeing the iconography in die Hard, Christmas is everywhere. We'ren't Home Alone. It's not it's I mean, obviously it's a Christmas. Home Alone is a Christmas movie, but it's not. There's more and they say the word Christmas more. They refer to Christmas more. There's more Christmas elements on every frame. He went frame by frame, so it's proven it's frame by frame. So without a doubt that heard.

Is a Christmas controversy.

Is until Hans Gruber falls, it's not Christmas. T Hans Fuver falls off the tower. He doesn't until he's done. Is until he's that at the end, it doesn't. It's the most spiritual conversation we've had.

But those part cemetery.

Okay, well there's that place. But there are certain things energetically that I can't watch anymore. Like I just can't watch certain movies that I adored when I was growing up. But I'm like, oh god, I couldn't even watch Steven sagall movie. She's kidding me for many reasons, not just because wow, he was a special soul, but there. But so when we created an Next Levelsol TV, it was about reading this safe space where you can watch movies and TV shows and shows like this and a book the other day, audiobooks.

The Atlantis one.

Oh is that that was so fun? Which which volume on?

I'm on three. I'm just starting three, so you get the first two. Yeah, And I was like just it's like I don't have to think about like I don't have to I don't have to screen the content, which I really like, you know, because I don't look at the news. I live in a bubble, you know that I have no idea what's going on. Half the time.

If it's important enough it gets to us, it.

Does somebody will tell me. But other than that, my job in this realm is not to be super involved with all the stuff.

You have to do your thing.

I'm doing my thing.

Yeah, and if it's again, if a hurricane's coming, somebody will tell me. Someone's gonna say, you're going to see a line out the door somewhere at home, deeople.

Or at the super husband who's very grounded. Well, we'll get things.

Do we all have that person life? You do? Don't let us know. My dad will call me like do you not know what's happening? And I'm like, no, what's happening. I have no idea what happened? Where is it going? So they eventually get to but yeah, but having that book series, by the way, it's one of my favorite things we have on the platform, and it's the years of Atlantis's fall. The second book is Atlantis Reborn in Egypt.

And then the third book, which is what you're in, is The Atlantis Reborn in America.

You haven't started it yet, so I'm about too.

Yes, I loved about that whole about like why in these last one hundred and fifty years we've made more technological advancements than we did in the last six thousand years. I mean literally, it's such a small time. Oh, it's crazy how much we've in our lifetime, how much has changed.

We were alive when the microwave was invented.

Oh, remote controls, Oh my gosh.

Remember how they like had cords?

No, that was that was the cable box. I remember that. Yo, that was the original was connected to the TV. Then the cable box that you would hit a button and then then it'd be like MTV.

Wait, I didn't have I didn't have cable.

I didn't that's my dad had cable. Yeah, I didn't have cable in my mom's house, but he had cable when I went to go visit him, which now is closed. I know, it's up sad, to be fair, it was closed a long time ago. They stopped playing music a long long time. Yeah, but it was. Yeah, so much has changed it just in our our life and why we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

Why now, like, what is happening to where humanity? Because we're getting help?

Oh, no question.

This is not just this is downloads, This is higher realm helping. This is this is other beings more vance than us giving us the downloads and the ideas.

When it's when it's time, When it's time. Yeah, you give the telephone idea to Galileo. Good luck. He wouldn't have been able to put it.

Together, didn't she Look at all the things he.

Drew and he and they were just so.

He can't make a helicopter back then, even though he knew about.

It, right, you know exactly.

But it's interesting to see, like instead of just thinking, I have this idea, how can I market it and sell it? Okay, great, do that too. It's practical.

Why why am I doing this?

Why are you doing this? How is the serving humanity on a bigger scale? Whose sole assignment is it to come work with me to help build this thing?

Listen, this work is not easy for anybody doing this kind of work. And if we have companies, it's stressful, there's a lot of stuff going on, a lot of money, So there's this mission based. It can't be money based because if it's money based, there's easier ways to make money or what's the point of this? You know, this is exhausted.

There's a lot, there's a lot of moving pieces, especially for you right now.

Right and apparently these pieces are going to start moving faster and more in the future, so it's it's a lot. So it has to be mission based. It has to be like, how can I help How can I help the world? How can I help them awaken? What can I do? It has to be that because I'm not thirty anymore and I don't have the same energy that I had when I was thirty, So it has to be mission based. Where before it was all about the hustle it was and now it's not.

And that's how we were trained. But even the people outside of spirituality, it's like if they did invent something, why are you doing it? Why are you doing it? What's yours? What's the higher what's the higher reason? Yeah? Is it just for money and profit? Okay, whatever, But like if there's something more, I would love to see those people, those CEOs elevate their business in higher realms, you know, like you know what I do with businesses.

It's fun.

It's It's like Jim Carrey when Jim Carrey came out and said this beautiful quote and I'm paraphrasing where he said, I wish everybody could get everything they ever wanted, so they would understand it means nothing because he got every single thing he ever wanted. Biggest movie star in the world, rich beyond compare dated, the most beautiful woman in the world, had the world that it was an oise, everything, fame, fortune, all of it, and he kind of just go, oh, this is this is really not empty. It's not what it's about.

No, he was born. I mean he's gifted too, you know, aside from all the things he got with money, he's also gifted.

Yeah, and he's he's awakening and I'm Jim anytime. See it's always open for you, brother. I would love to sit down and have a conversation with him, because he's such an interesting soul. That is a soul that is received so much in his life and now he's kind of like put that aside and it's like more focused on painting and more focused on raising consciousness and that kind of stuff and talking about that. And I don't think he gets a lot of people who can talk to him at that level, you know what I mean.

People they're just like looking at him, Jim Carrey, like he's lost his mind. You gave away how much money? Like you don't you turned down twenty million dollars? Like, because people are still caught up in this stuff. He's at a different place. He had a Kundalini awakening.

Yeah, and we need people like that to awaken, to share it, to say it's okay, yeah, exactly, to say it's okay not to chase money and fame and all this stuff. It's okay to seek inward fulfillment. And we didn't learn, I mean, gen X, we didn't. We did not grow up with that message. It was go to school, make money, blah blah blah. You know, we did not get that. So I'm glad that he is gen X.

God bless us. How we even made it is beyond us.

We survived on hoses, on.

Hoses outside, drinking water, unfiltered water from a hose.

We survived probably like God knows what is it?

Oh, I mean, they made us stronger.

But thankfully there was the psat night asking where your kids are?

Ten o'clock do you know where your children are? I remember just watched it the other day and it was like all the celebrities of the day like Cyndi Lauper and Madonna, you know, all prints and like, hey, do you know where your kids are? I'm like, I can't believe this was a thing. Every every ten o'clock at the news, they would just like, hey, do you know where your children are?

Do you remember we have kids? Do you remember that you have kids?

Do you have kids? And you're like, oh, yeah, where is John?

That's right?

Where is the door? Unlock? A door? Lock? We can't have him a key? He should did he make break? He make dinner for us? Yet?

Is your clean?

I mean, oh my god.

So if we survived, we get to do fun stuff like this and then and we.

Don't get bothered by things. No, we really don't. We do not get offended by things. Just watch any eighties movie and you'll understand why we're not offended.

But oh my gosh, honestly, something you wonder why they're not getting remade?

Got sixteen candles?

Oh my gosh, honestly, zero consents, so bad.

Oh, and the Asian stereotypes I used.

To hurt my feelings being half Japanese. What was the guy's name, Jerry, Jerry's.

No One Dong Kong or something like that. Yeah, that was so bad.

It was so bad.

But at least he was Asian. He was, it was, but it's not like Breakfast at Tiffany's that you see what's his name? What's his name?

Playing at Japanese when people were allowed to be Asian in films, right, and he was.

Like Andy Rooney, Andy Rooney, the kid from God from the eighties, from the twenties, Oh god, anyway, that character that actor played him, it's a Rooney something Rooney Mickey Mickey Mickey Rooney played a Japanese the upstairs. And you're just like, oh, oh oh, that's so horrible. I'm not going to do the impression, but it was horrible. So but raised with that kind of stuff, you start like, we're not offended by not anymore.

I mean, it used to confuse me because I'm half Japanese and I'd be like, my family doesn't act like that. We don't they don't talk like that if it was confusing, Like for me.

For a while it was Scarface and Ricky Ricardo because I'm Cubans and those were the two things. Scar Face is an Italian doing a Cuban guy really well. But it's a character sure at this point, So we have to talk like this. We haven't talk like they talk about speciality like this today. Man, Okay, I'm a political person from Cuba. We're going to talk.

About about vacuuming though if I can.

Okay, well, let's not go down that world. That's a whole other. Cumanisms is a whole other conversation. We make up words constantly in Spanish and that's one of them.

But anyway, give yourself permission to make up for its.

I did lother than So so let's get back. Let's get back onto the track. Man. Uh, it's gonna become a meme now me talking?

Do you need to just like open the show like that?

Okay, man, everybody today we welcome to the next letter song. We're here to talk about cocaine and about or us. What did that be? Amazing? Oh god, you need to do that. You're crying.

I'm sorry, we.

Talk about coe. Okay, now, First of all, the chakrass get activated with more cocain. No, I'm joking.

Maybe you can talk to lower realm beings. Aura.

O god, I can't wait for the comments.

This is as like on care off camera or worse off camera.

Oh my god. But the thing is that you have to have fun you do. Spirituality cannot be this like deep hard. Oh my god, you can't say anything. It is supposed to be fun.

You're supposed to be playful.

It's supposed to be our so loves joy.

That's why people come to me and they're like, how do I make money doing X Y Z and like whatever sounds like fun.

Yeah, you know, we're probably gonna bleep out when I say cocaine, so you'll know what. You won't even know what I'm saying. I'll probably beep out cocaine exactly today to talk about maybe I should do an entire episode in my stark face accent.

When you interview Jim Carrey.

Can you just have a segment, Jim carry, let's talk about this awaken in your head? Did you have the okay before you awakened? How did you awaken? Where's people are probably themselves?

I can hear him and like his all the voices he can do. Oh my god, that would be so fun. You should have an entire episode.

Please do please, I'm gonna please, Jim, come any time. The door is always open, always open, all right, So I wanted to talk to you really quickly about your channeling. So you are obviously channeling these ascended masters. What do you What do they have to say to us right now? What messages are they kind of bringing in that we need to hear at this.

Point, I mean the big thing literally for everybody, and I'm paraphrasing, it's go time. This idea that you're not ready, that you're not prepared, that it's not for you, that you're not qualified, is a lie. It's something that you made up in this realm. It doesn't exist in the higher realms. You are literally made for the thing you're here to do. Nobody else can take your place. This is for you. And still even when people hear those words, it's like it doesn't hit inside there, it doesn't awaken.

It needs to awaken something they need to remember. And even they can move forward even without remembering they All they have to do is keep saying yes, okay, I'm gonna do it, Okay, Yes, what is the next step for me? And too many of the people on this planet right now are not just second guessing themselves, but even denying who they really are. So if they could just express to you that those of you who are feeling like you might be from a higher realm, that you are not an average being. You are here to do something bigger. You are here now here's the caveat CEO with a higher assignment on your life. It is also up to you to create an atmosphere where you are hiring people of a higher consciousness who are here

and their soul's mission is to work with your company, and it has to start there as well. It can't just be the people going I'm here for something more. I'm here for something more. Not every eight billion people on the planet are here to start their own podcast, write their own book, and do something. Some of them are here to help support the companies that are inventing things or doing something bigger. But those companies, the CEOs, they need to be feeling their soul assigned. They need to realize that what they're here to do isn't just a thing to make money. And I think they already know that, but it's okay, and they need to give themselves permission to not necessarily just look at the resume

in the schools, but the people and to hire based on is this the assignment on your soul? And if you have no training, can I train you? Or is like where can you fit? Because to me, that's the enlightened company. But in order for so many people on the planet to know what am I here to do? Some of them literally are here to work for the CEOs that are here to do something big, but they have to hire differently.

That's very true, and it's happening, though it is it's slowly, it's slowly happening. So that's the big message that they have for us.

Because to say to everybody, go do what you're here to do. Again, not everybody here is here to have their own company or be a healer. So for the people that are listening that are CEOs and have a company, start hiring more consciously, because you're going to attract more people that are here to do what you're here to do.

What you're also here to do. It's a group effort. And see what else they have to say that that was a That was one big thing to sort of wake up those CEOs to say hire differently, hire more consciously, because it aligns everybody with their soul assignment. Again, it aligns everyone with their soul. And again, if the goal the goal is enlightenment, being aligned with your soul assignment, doing what you're to do allows you to live in alignment with your souls. You're not chasing money or wealth or fame or whatever. You're doing what you're to do so you can live in that love, in that state of love and gratitude all the time. And you can't do that if your soul assignment is a side hustle, if you have to go work somewhere that is in

alignment with you, Then how do you stay aligned with your soul assignment? How do you follow that intuitive nudge that you're here to do something more? And then enlightenment meditation becomes like a thing you do in the evenings for a few minutes or an hour. It's not enough. That's the thing. The people here are here to open up opportunities for other people to live the assignment on their soul. They've got to open up the opportunities. They mean to do that on a bigger scale. Then you get the people that are here to do the bigger thing.

Now they're in alignment with their soul and everyone's moving toward enlightenment. Now the consciousness of the planet is raising because the modern day spiritual guides leaders whatever it is, like you said, are also CEOs. Yeah, and they need to run their companies like that, and they're not not enough of them. And the ones that are on the fence and thinking about it, like, the answer is yes, go do it. Stop second guessing yourself.

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Because where's everyone else go? Where do they all go? There's too many of us for everybody to go be a spiritual teacher or healer, a podcast host or author. There's too many, but there's not too many if you're finding the right fit.

Yeah, it's and I love what you're saying that you don't have to open up your own company, you don't have to be a published author, you don't have to have your own podcasts or think unless that is something that is ringing true to you and then you might be able to do that for yourself. So it's not saying that you don't have to or not to do it.

But it really is up to what your soul assignment is. Right, Like you said, if you're on the fence, do it.

Go do it.

But you might want to go to another company first and see how that works out for you, because yeah, it's not everyone's going to be a boss.

And not everybody's going to be a healer or a podcast or channeler. Most people of the eight billion people on the planet aren't. They want to go work somewhere, but it has to work for their souls. It has to hire them, yes, And that's not how we hire. It's not how, it's not how businesses. It's I don't think business schools train people to hire in alignment with your soul assignment. It's not. That conversation needs to start and the people that are running the companies have to be brave enough to do it and to go. You know what, I want to hire this person even though it makes no sense. You know, the person I heard no experience. It's his soule assignment to be working with me.

It's working on amazingly. I wish everybody could do that. It is possible, and I understand if you have a corporation of thousands of people working with you, you can't necessarily change over right now, But can you inspire them?

I think you might remember this. In the eighties, there was a problem with tyn and all. Do you remember that with thilanol?

Yes, the company gosh, I do beg right.

So somebody went around and poisoned bottles and people died because before them, there was no safety cap. Someone could just open up anything, put anything in, and close it and nobody would know the difference. All that safety stuff happened after that event, But that CEO, without thinking twice, pulled every bottle of thailannol off the market. They lost millions.

I remember that because he's like, it's the right thing to do. Why would I risk Why would I risk someone's health because of it? Just it was such a different perspective in today's world. I don't know if that happens. I mean, I remember there was a lawsuit back in the day of there's a movie made of it. One of the I won't say the company, but there was an automobile company that had a effect in their car and if you hit the car the right space and the light was on it would explode. Literally.

I remember those cars.

They were, I mean, it's pretty legendary. They were pento. Yeah, I brought it up to they were pintos. My grandfather had one. I get it. Yeah. But if you like had the left signal and you got rear ended the damn thing up, what the hell?

And you could still buy them then?

And yeah. So but the company said, okay, so how much would it cost to pay lawsuits versus doing a recall? And they figured out that it would actually be cheaper just to pay people off once they died then to actually do the right thing. So that's what we're trying to That's the example of two different approaches, and one's hell a lot more conscious and more just right. It's just a human thing to do because he was looking at the human cost of life versus profit. And I think that's where we've kind of we've we run a muck with profit and the market and having to pay shareholders and every month is grow, grow, grow at any cost.

Where you know, people are you know, don't have pee.

Breaks and warehouses because they have to hit certain markers every day and and so on, you know, to get more what stuff, you know, there's a there's a point.

Where this isn't sustainable.

The whole system, this whole matrix.

The whole system as of right now is not sustainable one hundred. We can't deal with one hundred more years of this. It just won't work. The planet will not support it, We can't support it, will kill ourselves off. So something has to change pretty drastically.

Really fast. And that's where it's like companies need to change, like it's go time. It's go time for the people waking up, but it's also go time for the people that have the opportunity to give opportunity to other people. You know, if you're here and you have a company with one hundred people, or you're starting one, or you're growing one, think about hiring people that are in alignment because it's going to work out better.

Well, it's kind of like when you know, I've spoken to so many near death experiencers that many of them their life was going one way and they were off track, and this near death experience is the auf ramp that they set themselves up. Like if I haven't figured it out by then I need a wake up call. And then they just kind of get thrown into dying and coming back. And there's different variations of it. Some are more peaceful, some are not as rough, but some are extremely difficult. I think humanity is going through that now.

We are in a rough stage right now. We're not in alignment, we're not in the road that we need to be on. So some and it's been giving us signs stick things. Twenty twenty was a drastic thing, you know. Uh eight was a drastic thing. Ninety nine was like there's a bunch of things that shifted the planet in twenty twenty pre stopped the world literally. I believe that there's more of that coming. What is There's gonna be something that's going to rock everything again because we haven't listened.

We moved a bit, but we didn't move fast enough. We haven't moved enough. And that's to think why there's so much stuff in the world happening right now? What are your feelings on that? Like right now, what are their feelings on where we're going in these next I.

Mean it's five six years right, It's like, well, what do you want?

We have to make the decision.

What do you want? Do you want chaos? Do you want to get the you know, parental slap on the butt, or do you want to get your stuff together? There is still a moment where we can choose. It's just there's too many people choosing the wrong thing and those who were able to choose correctly go bait. That's the thing.

You can't keep yourself a secret if you're here to do something or share something like do it. It's important.

And that's where around right you know me, you know, I know, I'm like trying to I'm trying to behave myself in my language here. So there's not too many beliefs, but it's.

I think they don't understand the importance of what it is they're here to do.

Well because of that's imposter syndrome exactly.

So I'm like, get over it. It's go time. You're asking what the ascended masters have to say, like it is go time or there's chaos. The thing is coming quickly.

The thing I've learned in my journey is that one person can affect millions of people. You know, we have been able to affect millions of people with the with the work that we do. And if I can do it, anyone can do it in their own way. It doesn't have to be through a show. It can be through a book, it could be working at a company, it could be a thousand different ways. But all of us have the potential to really affect the world, and we have to believe that we are worthy to do that.

And that's the big thing because through while our lives, most of us are told calm down, don't dream, You're just one person, You're a cog in the wheel. That's what we've been told. That's the programming, especially in the West, that's the programming. We need workers, We need people to just do things and machines and so on, which is the other thing that's going to happen. Now. We've been told to do these things all our lives. We're told like, if you go to school, you get this degree, you'll get this job. I don't know about you, but that doesn't apply anymore, and it's going to apply less and less in the next two to five years.

Yeah, I mean, unless you're going for something specific like nursing school. Okay, you do have to get a degree in that.

But other than that, yeah, engineering, yeah, yeah, but remember a few years ago, they were telling everybody you got to be a coder, to code school. Yea, yeah, that's a future that's that's its future proof. Yeah, we're always going to be coding. We're always that the world's going to be more coding. And then AI shows up and now like coders are like.

Well I do yeah right. But see, the other thing is that as much as we can look at the programming we've had and realize it's it's a dead end. Awakening happens in a moment. It doesn't have to take time, So everybody could wake up right now, or even if if fifty on the planet woke up a little bit more, we would live in a different world. And it's a choice to trust yourself. It's a choice to trust your heart.

The Marico, it's scary, Get over it. I know, I know it's scary. And the reason why I'm going to say it's scary is because I go back to that scene in the Matrix where Cipher, the bad guy, is eating the steak and he's talking to the agent and he's like, I know that this stack isn't real, and I don't care. I don't care.

That's what most people are doing right now.

I know this isn't real, but I'm either too scared to go into the real world, to the reality of the truth. And I'm just going to stay in my delusion because my delusion is comfortable. It might be painful, it might be hurtful, but it's comfortable because I know it. This other thing terrifying happened to me with this show.

I stopped. I was terrified it was the unknown until I finally said, Okay, I'm gonna make the leap. Same thing with people. What I find fascinating about this conversation is we've had a scarface. We've talked like this in the conversation, and we've had astrotherapy. We've had a cocaine driven a cuban talking about chakras and auras, and we've had a channeling section. We've covered everything.

You invited Jim Carrey.

Jim Carrey has been invited officially, you know officially. Now anyone watching who knows Jim, please put the word out. So we've had a lot of things covered in this conversation. And I think that this episode is really the essence of what I try to do with Next Level. So yeah, very deep mystical experiences, deep stuff, funny and laughing and making fun of things that we should make fun of calling calling what it is it is, you know, calling a spade of spade you like this crazy, Yeah, you know, like the astrom what the hell? So it's been it's been such a joy talking to you. Let's talk a little bit before we go about what we were what we created with your astrotherapy course. You know, in the course we were trying to put together. And when I

say we, it's you. But you know I was there in the room. You're there, I'm there our press record. More than that, I directed a little bit. I'm like, okay when we do this with that. But generally, what we were trying to do is create a kind of almost like a mini personal course on how to do astro therapy for yourself or for your friends and things like that. Right, So, can you explain a little bit about what they can expect in that mastery course?

Yeah. I think what they can expect is one trusting themselves. I mean, really, if you don't trust yourself, it's really hard to move, it's hard to do anything right. So I'm inviting people to trust their intuition or their imagination. See, this is the thing people down plant there, am I imagining it. It's so what if you are what if your imagination is the way that your clar cognizance, your knowing is showing up, because that's usually what's happening. They have a knowing and then they imagine the knowing and they're like, I just imagined it. No, you knew it to be true, and then you create an image perfect.

So with astral therapy, you can expect to connect to your higher body, your astral body, your body of light, and expect to experience connecting to the higher realms. However that works for you though, See, everybody's different. So some people have all their clares open and they might see and feel and hear all the things. And some people, you know, if you want tail.

Thunder cats.

Amen s hear it too. So you might experience a lot of phenomenon. But if you know me and you know me, phenomenon is not the most important thing. It's lights and sound effects. It's not. Astral therapy to me, isn't about having this huge experience, because now you've got you having an experience which is separate from God consciousness.

But if you can experience your body of light, your consciousness perfect. If you experience a knowing great and some people will have a lot of experiences like you. But the ones who don't, that's perfect too because they're gonna experience exactly what they need. So it's gonna be different for a lot of people, but you can experience your guide.

That was one of the big goals that we set was I want them to be able to get answers because again coming back to trusting yourself, and some of the answers people get, you can't make that stuff up. They're gonna no, that was not me, that was not you. That was their guide. Yeah, that was their guide. That was their higher self, their soul, whatever, giving them instructions, telling them some truth, possibly releasing something, maybe something that's been lingering, something they need to heal. Because again, I'm not really big into the lights and sound effects of all the psychic stuff because I've been you know, my whole life. I've had it. But that's not allowed that.

That's not a road to enlightenment, all the lights and all that stuff. It's not a road to direct enlightenment. Oneeness, consciousness, remembering who you are, that's the iportant thing. So I'm really careful to not get too carried away with that because too much emphasis in my experience of a few decades.

People get way too into the experience. I want to experience. I want to see, I want to I want to I want to like I don't hear anything. I'm like, great, good, do you know it? Yeah, that's so much faster Now you don't have to process what you heard and saw on all this. That's great, it's wonderful. I have all of them open. But like, I want to make sure that people understand that their experience is valid and true and perfect for them, and it shouldn't be any other way.

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show. Yeah, not everyone's going to have my experience.

My experience, Your experience was my experience, and what your experience.

Is always, But it's what I needed to see, it's.

What you needed to because of what we're doing about what we're doing now. And some people might experience what they feel is like the voice and knowing because that's what they need.

And that's the key to this.

That's the key. You're going to get what you need, not what you think you need, not what you think you want. Yeah, or what your friend got or whatever, and we don't want to compare.

Yeah, it's like, oh, I didn't I didn't see my spirit guys, so I didn't see I didn't I didn't have yoga on the show. For me, I'm like, that's not that's not the point. It's kind of like the the yogic traps, the the the yogic powers, the saetis, I forget what they're actually called, but the the levitation, the biolocation, the manifestation of ash or something like that, or these powers, the yoga power that come along as you're on the road to enlightenment. They're kind of traps because you can spend thirty years figuring out how to levitate, right, and it's done. It's been done. It's it's it's something that can be done, or telekinesis or moving things with their mind using the force, all this kind of stuff.

But it's it's all these yogic powers that people will get just by the nature of going on the road to enlightenment. It's paratechnics. M just like, oh that's nice, let's keep going, keep going. Yeah, it's like you know, and I just always keep going and not get caught up, not get trapped by these things, and this is something similar.

People can get addicted to this.

Yeah, I'm really really careful with everyone I work with though that like, do not get caught up in the lights and sound effects. That is not enlightenment.

That's not the point.

It's not the point. It's not my point. It's not what I want for people. It's not my soul assignment to entertain people. That's not what we're here for. Aligning with who you truly are, remembering who you are, and that's really what astro therapy is. It's a chance to go into the hire realms to remember who you are from there. If you're remembering correctly, you'll remember that you are love, you are joy, you are bliss. You are not lights and sound effects. You are not whoever you are in a past life. And that's why I also don't do readings as far as like who was I in every past life? It's sometimes it's so deeply healing and helpful to find out, but that's just not my work because I'm kind of like, well, I don't care

who you used to be, who are you now? What are you here to do? And how do you stay on truck with that with enlightenment. And my thing is like, yes, I want people to move into a higher state consciousness, to move toward enlightenment and pay their bills. And that's why I was calling on companies and CEOs because people need to do both. We can't choose anymore. That's the problem.

That's why this world is broken. That's why the matrix, the the illusion we're in is going to run out of time and we're moving into crisis. We can't choose both at the same time, and so we have to choose money because we have to feed our children, but we don't wuld you need to feed our children, but we shouldn't have not the eighties.

Okay, this is not the gen X crowd that you just get thrown out into the street until midnight.

But we can't choose only money and success because success is empty without love. And too many millionaires and billionaires have found that out. That's so sad because they found that they got everything and it was nothing. And so that's why I think the guides we're calling on the CEOs and people who have opportunities to give call in the people whose soul assignment are in alignment with yours because now they don't have to choose between feeding their families and being in alignment.

Beautifully said. And the other thing that we did while we were here is shoot a little series that will leave a little bit mysterious at the moment. But we did shoot a series that will be coming out on Next Level sol TV as well coming up. So we've done a lot.

Why we've been busy. I'm so excited about this series.

It's because of but that's why we're working all the time.

But that I don't know what's in here.

I love this. On that note, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing.

My website, I'm sorry, Soule Priority dot com Soul Soul Priority, and I'm on Instagram at Madico Frederick and Facebook and YouTube Madico Frederick TV.

Yes, and people I have a feeling they're going to reach out to you to try to get an astrotherapy session from you. Can you just explain that process because it's not it's open, but it's not open.

At the same time, there's an application process because I have an astrol Therapy membership and so that's where a lot of people can receive an astroal therapy. It's not one on one. It's a group and I do a live astro therapy every month. Other than that, there's an application on my website. You can click on it. I think it says one on one astual therapy and people can apply there and if it's the right fit, we'll put you where. You know, depending on what you're ready for and what you're looking for, Like some people are looking for something so simple that I'm like, oh my gosh, you'll get that in the membership. And then other people have a lot that they want to work through, like okay that we need a conversation, I need two hours

with you, right.

And and and then a lot of them can actually get a lot of it through.

The course, and a lot of it's they're going to get. That's my goal is how how many people can we help just through the course and get them where they need to be, get them where they need to be, and then have them also be self sufficient with it.

Right, could be the course of course could be level one membership level too, and then if you really need.

It a one, we're going intergalactic.

Yeah.

At that point, I remember you said that after you you when we finished the first astal therapy, you sat back and you go, WHOA, that was like Interstellar the movie.

Yeah, I was very Interstellar. I felt I felt like, yeah, I was going through wormholes and you were. It was. It was all sorts of craziness happening. It's I just love this conversation because we covered a lot of ground. We had a lot of fun and uh and a lot of cooking.

So we're waiting for the Cuban accent show.

Oh my god, it's gonna be And but the thing is a lot of people don't know that I'm Cuban, so they're like, I can't believe that this white guy is using the Cuban accent cultural appropriations.

And I'm like, oh, you're Italian.

No, I'm I am Cuban. I am Cuban.

Well, I want a whole show. I think I'm speaking on behalf of everybody. We want a whole show with the Cuban accent, with all the made up boards like the vacuum cleaner and the other one like refrigerator.

There was refrigerator which is which is basically just frigid air in Spanish. Then there's a pull over all over which is a sweater in Cuban, but it's a pull over that it took me forever to figure out. Yeah, it's I might do a special Christmas special starring the Cuban version.

Of my accent, or at least in April first version. Like somehow, you've got to do something.

Just something like that. I might. Today we're gonna talk about.

I know there's like spiritual comedians out there. Well, Kyle Kyle se is he okay, Kyle is That's right, that's right.

It was a former stand up who uses.

Humor for so he needs to be the one.

He's coming on the show in a few weeks. And when he comes in, I'm gonna I'm gonna do We're gonna do a bit. We have to you have to now and now I have to you know what, If I'm going to do a Cuban episode, it's going to be with him.

It has to be. Yeah, you have to have a comedian here who could actually like go back and forth.

It could be Jim maybe Jim will well, Jim too.

We need Jim.

Yeah.

I think all the comments just people are manifesting Jim Carrey being here as well.

Yes, if anyone knows them, please reach out and put that energy on the world. I think he would. I think if Jim came on the show would be a pretty impactful.

I think it would be right.

I think it could really affect a lot of people and help a lot of people get a much clearer idea because I don't think he has been asked deep questions. I think it's all been real superficial stuff over because the shows that he's been on, our you know, you know, talk shows. I think we can go a little.

Deeper, a lot deeper, maybe profound, and it would be funny. It would be funny. Yeah, yeah, Well he's coming. He's got to come. The world needs him if he's here to serve. This is a great platform.

It has been a pleasure having you here. And thank you so much for being here and working with us on our court, on the course and the series, and for everything you're doing to awaken the Plan. So thank you, Thank.

You so much for having me. It was so fun being back here.

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