My Psychic Abilities Saved My Life with Annette Bricca

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1:17 and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul Its host or any of the companies they represent. Now, let's dive in to today's episode, like to Welcome to the show at Netbrica. Hi doing net? Hi?

1:33 How are you? Thanks for having me?

1:35 Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm excited to talk to you about your credible mystical journeys that you have had in your life. So my first question before we get to go down that rabbit hole of the near death experience you had, what was your life like before the near death experience?

1:54 So my near death experience happened when I was about seven or eight years old, so I was my parents were divorced. I lived with my mom, my brother, and my sister, and I would you know, say that it was typical of in the seventies what a divorce family would have felt like. But I knew that I was psychic, even at a really early age, but I didn't really care.

2:14 I mean, I knew things that would happen. I would see my family members when they were going to pass over. I would see their faces melting, and a few people in my family and people I knew that were much older were psychic, so I was familiar with it, but I was just a kid. I didn't really care about that necessarily. So when the near death experience happened at a very young age, I mean I knew right away what it was, but at seven years old, it completely changed my life. Because even now I'm fifty seven years old, and when I think fifty years ago that this happened.

2:45 Once it happens, it can never not happen. You don't ever not remember it. I don't, you know, It's just like it happened yesterday, even now. So it kind of set me up for living a life of really of gratitude, of feeling grateful and thankful even as a really young kid, and that there was a bigger picture of everything, so that the way that my life ended up evolving. There were a lot of really scary, terrifying things that happened, but I think that the near death experience happened so that I did get a big picture feeling at seven years old. So you know, at that moment, I wasn't I knew it was profound. It did change the way I thought about things, But I didn't until about I was ten, and then twelve is when I really understood

3:27 why it happened. But it was it's transformative. You know. I've said to a couple of people in the past that whether or not people have had near death experiences, it's like one of the greatest gifts you could ever have. I mean, I feel bad that people have to die for a period of time to have it, but having it, and especially at a young age, it changes everything that you think. It changes how you feel about the world because you know that there is more than this. I guess that that's the meaning. You know that there is a higher beings. So even if you're religious, even if you know I was Catholic going to church and I knew about God, but you know, I was seven, I really care about God, but I got it. I got

4:08 that there was a big patro And I remember after the near death experience, like telling my family members about it, and they, you know, they were in their fifties and nineties and seventies, and they're like, wait, what happened, and its it. It's just a life changing, game changer event.

4:24 So when you you work, when this happened to you. I mean, you're right. It actually gives you a gift of understanding that we're not this is not it, And that's a that's a question marked the most human beings on the planet have, like what happens after we die? Yes, but you had you had a gift of clarity of truth given to you at a very very young age.

4:45 So what happened? How did how did you have your NDE?

4:49 So I was at school. I was in the hot lunch line. It was, you know, a big long line, but it was me and two of my friends, and there was a record a free standing record player like on a metal stand, and we were right next to it, and we were going to play a game that who could hold their breath the longest, and there was, like I said, three of us. I was gonna go last.

5:08 I told them I know that I'm gonna beat you too, And I did go last. I did beat them because the next thing I knew, I was in the nurse's office because so I passed out. I hit my head on the metal stand. I was in the nurse's office. But before I came to, I saw a white light and I saw a tunnel and kind of like the classic story almost of what you hear about a near death experience, but not a tunnel that was small like big, but you could you felt like you knew that you were surrounded by something. So I was in a tunnel and I felt myself like going towards this white light, but not like I was walking, like I was being like shuffled or scooted forward, like just being pushed forward, but not me walking. And I saw this white light.

5:52 But the thing that I that's notable and noticeable to say, it wasn't just a white light. It was I could hear music, and it was also a white light, but with colors as well. And it was almost like you know on fourth of July when you have a sparkler and it's you know, sizzling and sparkling like like crackling like kind of sparkling to it, and you just felt complete love, I mean, and I felt like I was embraced by it, and you felt like an enveloping of love and you're not afraid and you I was scooted towards this white light, and I just felt like I was home, you know. And I'm seven years old. I don't even think, I know what I would even say the definition of home was, but I felt like I was home and I and then all of a sudden,

6:32 I was told that I had to go and that I was being scooted back, but I did not want to go. I wanted to stay and I and I also knew that it was not in the same realm. I knew that I wasn't like in the consciousness realm. I knew I was in a different realm. And I felt like I knew that I had passed away or that I was passing or about to pass. But I was told that no, no, this was not your time.

6:54 And then the next thing I know, I woke up. I was in the nurse's office. She was leaning over me, and you know, just say what happened. And I didn't tell, like I said my family members till a day or two later. And then when I realized what that was, and you know, I realized them. But once I had that conversation, I felt like I went from seven to like thirty. Immediately I felt old, or even though I was still a kid and I was doing kid things, I didn't I wasn't afraid of anything. I mean, I just It's really such a gift. You know, that stupid holding my breath in the lunch line was one of the best things that's ever happened to me in my whole life. It was really fabulous. And even now when I talk to people and you know, and like you said,

7:34 many people, the big question they have is, you know what is outit there? You know what happens when we pass away? And I tried to always when I do a reading, convey a little bit of that story because I do feel like it's a game changer because I can say it with such conviction because I went through it.

7:49 So you know, sometimes they say if a thousand people were to come in the room and they didn't believe it or they questioned me on it, I would I would be able to tell a story in such a way that would make everybody because it because it's like it just happened yesterday, It was it was forever. It altered my life. But I believe that the reason why that happened in hindsight now is because all the things that were going to happen to me so that I was brave enough and courageous enough to get through what I needed to so I do think it happened for a real particular reason.

8:21 So it was a primer if you will.

8:23 Yes for sure. Yeah.

8:24 Yeah. So when you when you came back, you said it took you a couple of days to tell you parents. What did they say? As good Catholic parents. I'm a recovering Catholic myself, so yeah, me too, I'm.

8:36 A recovering Catholic. Exactly what I say.

8:38 They.

8:39 I think that they were kind of afraid for me. I think that they thought that it was too much and it was overwhelming, and they didn't want me to be afraid that I had maybe you know, was about to die. But I wasn't afraid. I was the opposite of afraid. I was, And I think that it only took a couple of days to tell them because you know, I was living with my mom and my mom was not the stable one my so I didn't want to tell my mom right away because she was unstable. So I waited a day to talk to my father, who lived out of state, to tell him. And you know, he he understood it, he he, but I think he was afraid that I thought it was too much. I don't think I did a good enough job at the time of explaining no, No, this was fabulous. It was

9:21 a great gift. So, you know, he accepted that I went through it, but I think that he was trying to trying to make me not afraid. But I wasn't afraid at all. I was the opposite of afraid.

9:32 Right now, how long did you Did you keep this hidden to yourself beside your parents for a long time, or did you tell everybody?

9:40 No, I didn't tell everybody that I met because I was trying to be a normal kid, you know, because here I was not really normal, but I was acting like I was normal. I knew things I shouldn't know, even though I knew a lot of people that were psychic. You know, a lot of my neighbors and the people I dealt with, my friends and their families didn't really know about that or care about that. So I didn't want to. I didn't really want anyone to know that I was psychic. I was, you know, And so now on top of it, telling them I had a near death experience, you know, now, I'm like an alien almost.

10:10 So I didn't tell my outside circle. My inner circle knew, but not really like my friends and stuff, not too much later.

10:19 We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor. And now back to the show. When did you decide to come out of the closet publicly?

10:34 Well, my whole story just a year ago.

10:37 Actually, oh really, so before then you weren't talking about it.

10:41 Well, I've been doing readings since I was twelve, because once so I had the near death experience. And then after that, my spirit guide came to me in a way that I actually saw my spirit guide in the room with my sister shared a bedroom, and so my spirit guid came to both of us, and in a way that I mean there was no question. I mean, I knew it was my spirit guide. And then after that, then I saw a videotape of my life when I was ten years old, of but I didn't know it was of my life, of a chain of events that were going to happen. So one night I was sleeping and in a state of so I wasn't really sleeping, my eyes were shut, but I was awake, and I saw videotape up here of all these different things that

11:20 would happen to a person in many different stages of their life. So I was ten at the time, I saw when this person was going to be twelve, then twenty, then thirty, then fifty, then even older than I am now. And at the time, I didn't see the person's face, and I actually didn't even know what was me because I didn't see her face. But because I saw all these milestones of different major things, like I saw something that would happen when she was twelve. Then I saw that she would get divorced. Then I saw these different things.

11:47 So I thought it was just a series of events for other people. I thought it was like the same kind of thing that I see about psychic things with other people. But when I turned twelve years so one of the things that I did see when I was tent was that at there was a girl that was about twelve years old that she would be abducted, and I saw that there was a period of three days that she would be kidnapped and then she would you know, be taken from her home, and that a lot of awful things would happen, and that I saw that. It's like almost like watching a movie where you're where you're rooting for the main character. You want them to get out of this scary situation. So when I was seeing it.

12:25 I mean, I saw this little girl like terrified, like scared to death, and I could see what they were doing to this girl, and it was really her like horrific, and I was trying to cheer her along, and I was trying to like give her hope, like tell her you're gonna get okay, You're gonna be okay, you're gonna get out, you know, somehow you're gonna make it. And I was, you know, like in real time, like you know, cause one of the things I tell people is that time is an illusion. And even that seems like so confusing and so broad, but it was me cheering this twelve year old on in real time, saying, Okay, just keep your wits about you, you know, stay above water, because you're you gotta get out of this. So it

13:03 ends up that two years later that was me. I was abducted from my bedroom from two strangers. They kidnapped me in the middle of the night. It was over a three day period, and they put me in a car. They had duct tape in my eyes, in my mouth, and I went in. So it ends up that it was four miles away from my home. The next day when my mother realized that I wasn't home. She called the police and the FBI. And back then it was nineteen seventy nine. As a child, as minor, they didn't tell your name on TV. They so they showed like my face, but they blinked it out. They didn't say my name. And so they had said that, you know, here's this missing girl. And the FBI was at my mom's house. So that happened for a three day period.

13:42 So when this was happening, I was like laying on a crack mattress and so I was. I had a duct tape on my mouth and my eyes, and there was a Christian radio station on in this room, this bedroom that I was stuck in with these two guys, but they were having parties and they would I had this music on loud, but there was a Christian radio station on it. At one point it kept saying, if you believe in God, you know, ask God for whatever you need. God is here. God will listen. And here I am. I'm you know, I'm being you know, beaten, raped, drugged.

14:15 And at this time I didn't even know how long I had been there. It ended up that I was there for three days but at that time I didn't know. I had no concept at the time, and I thought, okay, if there's a God, yeah, God, I could use you, you know, if you're here, I need you right now. And so I got brave and I took the duct tape off my eyes, and I saw that there was a window in the room, and that the the and it was in September, and that the window was up, and that the shears were like billowy. So I knew that the window was up, and I saw that there was a phone right next to the mattress that it was on. So I hurried up. I picked up the phone and I called my mom, and the FBI got on the phone and they said, listen, you've been gone

14:52 for a few days. Tell us, you know, look out the window. Try to describe your surroundings. And so I did. But then I heard these you know, bad guys come back up the stage. So I heard him, hung up the phone with my tape back on my eyes, and then like about an hour later, when whatever happened happened, they went back downstairs. I thought, I got to get myself out of this. They're going to kill me if I don't. You know, and then I realized that, you know, I was that girl that I saw two years ago.

15:15 I was that girl. And even though you know sometimes that I tell people now and they're like, well, okay, so you got kidnapped and you didn't realize that you were that girl when you were ten, I said, well, yeah, it's easy now to remember. But I had seen so many things, and you know, you're not You're connecting all of it. And I realized then that I was going to get away because I was going to get away, not because the FBI was going to charge through the door and save me. I had to save myself, so I hurry up, I got dressed, I jumped out of a second story window and I broke my foot, but I hobbled over to the next door neighbor, and I remember like it happened yesterday. I mean, there was a young guy who was like in his thirties who was

15:49 lying underneath his corvette working on it. So I can only see his legs, and I thought, oh, you know, I hope I can get his attention. So I said, I guess I was crying, and he came out from underneath the car and he said, oh, you the girl that's been on TV. And I said yes, and we hurried up and we went into his house and he called Night one one and the police and the FBI came, and so it ends up that they were caught. They did go to trial six months later. They were both sentenced to thirty to sixty years in prison each. They served twenty six years in prison. But at the time when I was getting ready for my trial, the FBI agents that were in my house, So there were two FBI agents on the case, and they said to me

16:27 when I explained that I kind of knew that this was going to happen and that's why if I had the nerve to jump out of the second story window. And they're like, well, what do you mean, how did you know? And I kind of told them and they said, listen, we actually have a couple other cases, like missing person cases were working on. Can can you help us? And at that point I had never done anything psychically. I just knew things, but I never like gave anybody information.

16:50 I said, well, I think I can, but I don't know how, and they said, well, you know, we need help, so whatever you can do will be helpful. So then I said, well, let's let's try it. And so they gave me a little bit of information. And at the moment, I don't think we all thought that I would start solving cases necessarily. We just thought, well, we'll see what happens, We'll see if I could help. And I actually, in that six month time solved two cases for the FBI.

17:17 So here I was preparing for my own trial, and then I was solving two cases for them, And that's just kind of how it evolved. And so from that point on, then we were six months later they got you know, they went to jail, to prison, both of them, and so about a year later, I was thirteen years old. So then I went and moved in with my father and I said to him, listen, I need to know why this happened, because even though you know, I got away and they went to prison, and you know, everything's kind of okay, why would they pick me, you know they?

17:46 And so my father showed me two New York Times articles. One one of the kidnappers had escaped from a prison in Schenectady, New York, seven months prior and drove to where I was living in Michigan to come and kidnap me. In particular, so it was it was some random it was a setup. He was coming to get me. And so I said to my father, what he escaped from prison?

18:09 Because I didn't know that at the time of the trial. When I was, you know, testifying, I didn't have to back then, I didn't have to be in the courtroom with them, so I got to testify. They were not in the courtroom then when they testified, I didn't have to be in there. So when my father told me a year later that, you know, one of them was an escape convict from prison, and then I got really really afraid. I thought, you got because thinking it was random was less scary than knowing that somebody escaped from prison and drove all this way for seven months and came and got me, and you know, and I was really really terrified. So then here I was trying to live a normal kid life. I was thirteen, fourteen, fifteen

18:47 years old. I was, you know, a cheerleader. I was doing you know, book reports, whatever normal kids do. But then I was the FBI were contacting me and asking me to help themselves cases on the side, I wasn't getting paid for it. Then the local police, I was doing that for them as well, and even one of my best friends in high school. I remember I went over to her house one day and we were just hanging out and her father, who was like the local police detective, who I didn't know was my girlfriend's father.

19:14 When we both saw each other in the kitchen, we had to act like we didn't know each other because I was helping him on local cases. But I didn't know that that was his daughters. So we know had because nobody knew that I was doing that except the people that knew. So when I graduated from high school, I thought, all right, I don't really want this life.

19:30 You know, here I was like solving all these cases. I was a psychic. But I didn't really want to do that. So I moved to California because I thought, I'm going to reinvent myself. I'm going to just I don't know sol.

19:41 So before we go to California, I want to go back for a second. Couple questions. One, why did that man? Why did that man escape and go after you? What was the purpose?

19:50 Why?

19:52 We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, and now back to the ship.

20:00 So this actually nobody knows except you. Know a few people that know. So this is the first time I'm sharing this with you. It endscept that, yeah, and I appreciate you because I mean, there's and this is even why I came out with my story a year ago, because of all the chant of events that I'm about to tell you. So it ends up that my mom once my mom and dad got divorced, and like I said, my mom was the unstable one. We were living with my mom, me, my brother, and my sister, and we had I'm from Chicago. My mom had a few boyfriends, so we went from Chicago. When they got divorced, we moved to Arizona, and then we ended up moving to Michigan.

20:36 This is where it happened to me. In Michigan, my mom had a string of boyfriends and she had drug and alcohol problems. But one night, her and her boyfriend were in a bar and they were drunk or high or both or whatever, and they made a five dollars bet with one of the other kidnappers that if they lost the bet that they could come and my mom would leave the back door open and he could kidnap me.

20:58 So he contacted so for and my mom lost the five dollar bet, so she she and he told her that one of his buddies had escaped from prison. He was on the way to Michigan. And so it ends up. So this happened over Labor Day weekend. On the Friday night that this happened to me, so I was going into seventh grade. That night, I wanted to spend the night at my best friend's house who lived next door to me, and that was like a and my mom really didn't care where I was at, you know. So that night I said, you know, this is like my last hurrah before seventh grade? Can I spend the night at Sonzo's house that night? And she said no. And not only did she say no, she made me, my brother, and my sister go to bed like really early, like

21:40 at eight o'clock at night, which is again not typical of her. That night, my sister went to go shut the back door when my mom forced the three of us to go to bed at eight o'clock at night, and my sister saw that the screen door and the and the lock on the door were like broken. So my sister went to my mom and said, I can't locked the back door because it's broken. My Mom's like, don't worry about it. My sister Barb said, no, what we have to worry about it? What do you mean?

22:05 And my Mom's like, no, no, no, don't worry about it. So that's why it happened, because my mom made this bet and wow.

22:12 So okay, that's a that's a whole other that's a whole other rabbit hole. Okay, So my next question is you said that you saw a videotape of your life or something equivalent to a videotypic you. When and how did you see that?

22:27 So when I was so my near death experience happened when I was steping in again. It gave me this feeling of and at that point I just thought, Okay, I'm a psychic kid. I'm like a little bit weird. I didn't really want everyone to know that and that I had the near death experience. And at that moment, I just thought, well, maybe this is what happens to kids that are psychic, that you have like this near death experience, so you have a bigger idea of the world. So at that moment, that's what I thought, That's what it was, and I did feel good about that. Then at a couple of years later is when my spirit guide came into the bedroom with me and my sister. My sister and I were sharing a bedroom. We had twin beds,

23:02 and my sister was in the middle of the night and she started crying and she I woke up and she pointed to the door, and in the doorway, like the whole size of the doorframe was like a silhouette or like a three D figure or like a hologram of what looked like almost like a figure of like Abraham Lincoln. And when I say Abraham Lincoln, it was because he wore a really big, tall hat. And at that time, I was like maybe nine years old, That's what I thought, And so I didn't know what this was.

23:31 I didn't know this was my spirit guide. My sister was really afraid and she was crying, and I said, just put the covers over your head, don't look. I could not not look, so I kept looking, and I wasn't afraid. I knew that this being was there for me and not for my sister. My sister was just unfortunately there and so I kept looking at this being, and then the next thing I know, I woke up the next morning and my sister and I were getting ready for school, and she was really upset, didn't want to go to school. And I said to her, do you remember? Because I didn't at that point, I didn't know I was dreaming. I said, hey, I remember, do you?

24:02 And then when we compare notes, and then I went to people that I knew in my family that were psychic and other psychics, and I said, you know, this being came and they said, oh, that's your spirit guide. And I said, oh my not. What what do I do? And so they said, well, he's going to help you, they said, name him. So I named him David because you know, I didn't name him something spiritual because I was a kid. So I named him David. And they said, well, he's here to help you when you need help. But I didn't want to help, but you know, I still did.

24:27 Was didn't want people to know I was psychic. So I said to David, who kept showing up, listen, stop doing that. I'll let you know when I want to know something. You just, you know, quit doing this to me. And I said, and by the way, would you quit stop making my family member's face melts, because that's not helping either. I want to just ride my bike. I want to do normal things. So we kind of had this deal that when I wanted to know something, he would like put a message in my head, or I would put a message in his head, like saying, can you help me out. A year later is when when I was sleeping, I saw this videotape of again the person's life. But again I didn't know it wasn't me, and I didn't know it was one person of all

25:04 these things that were transpired. So when I ended up jumping out of the window, I realized then the near death experience helped me because it helped me know that there is a bigger picture. There's not just me making all these decisions. There is a higher being helping me, higher consciousness, And you know back then, I mean, you know, forty five years ago, because this is the forty fifth year of it happening. Forty five years ago, I didn't think of higher consciousness. I didn't even know what higher consciousness meant. But I knew enough to know that there was a big picture. So I knew that the near death experience happened to set me up so that when my spirit guide showed up, I wouldn't be so freaked

25:41 out and that I could say, you know, hey, don't don't show up unless if I need you, and then to prepare me for the kidnapping and the rape that I went through, because now what I realize, you know, I tell people all the time, I would never even though I was psychic, I would never have done this professionally for sure. I mean there's no question. I mean I don't even even sometimes I don't want to do it now. I didn't have a choice, and I always I realize now that I had to go through the events that I went through because I had to go through really difficult things to understand how how lucky we are to be alive. And even though you can go through really horrible, terrible things, you can get through those.

26:21 And I believe that we're here for two reasons. One is our human life that we're supposed to go through to get through obstacles and experiences to learn for our soul's perfection. But then once we can master that, if we can, then we go to what we call our sole purpose life, which is us living at a higher vibration where we are experiencing love and joy as much as we can. To the degree you know, for the rest of our journey, and I believe that that is about helping other people. So when I moved to California after high school again thinking I was gonna, you know, get out of this area. I didn't want people in Chicago because I hadn't moved back with my father at that time to know who I was. And then actually

27:00 the opposite happened. You know. I thought I was going to be a genius and reinvent myself. But then I started hanging out with celebrities. They knew who I was, and so here I was. I did the opposite of what I wanted to do. I was more in the limelight. I was not only doing readings for like really big shots, you know, I mean even people now forty years later that I've been doing since I was a kid. I mean really well known, very famous people. And then I was hanging out with them. And back then there wasn't a lot of remote readings, so I would, you know, I was in my twenties hanging out with these celebrities and producers and movie stars and athletes, and then I started.

27:34 I did that for about four years, and then I got a freight I thought, you know, what I didn't really have a reference to one of these guys would get out of jail, but I knew that they would, and it started to terrify me that here I am, like, you know, who do I think I am? Now I'm in California hanging out with like celebrities, so it would be easy for these bad guys to find out who I was. And I knew. And again, because it wasn't random, I thought, when they get out of jail, they're going to come back for me. They're not. You know, this is not going to be one and done. So after about four years, I moved to New York and I thought, Okay, now I am going to do the opposite. I'm not gonna I'll be psychic. And I said to the universe

28:07 in my spirit, I said, listen, if you want me to do readings, I'll do them. But I'm I'm not advertising. I'm not gonna nobody's gonna know who I am. And you better send me to people to me because I nobody's gonna know anything that I do. And so that's what happened. People would come to me, they were referred and I would like give them the third degree. I would say, well, who referred to you? And they'd say, oh, my cousin Tommy, and I'd say, who's Tommy. You know what I was really if you didn't tell me exactly who referred to you, I would refuse to do the reading.

28:34 And so that's how it just built. And so from the age of twelve until you know, all these years later, I had this huge clientele and I would do all these readings for all these people, and you know, not just celebrities and wealthy people, but I mean everyday average people. But it gave me a life of gratitude because I felt that I was helping a tremendous amount of people.

28:54 But I was also the entire time always helping the police and the FBI with missing children because I always felt obligated to do that because of my own situation. I remember being in that situation like praying that somebody would save me, and you know, not thinking that that would happen, and to a point where I thought, you know, they're going to kill me. You know, that's it. There's I'm not going to get out of this. And so now you know, even though helping with missing children is really a hard thing to do, and that's something that I love doing. I never turn it down because I want to always help whenever I can. So at this point, a year ago, I had an opportunity to be on somebody's podcasts, and so I have throughout my career had

29:35 many opportunities to be on it. I was on TV a few times, I was did many radio shows, and I at the time, throughout my career, I wasn't even doing it to promote myself. I was you know, I would have a client that would say, let's say, have a radio show and ask me to be on it, and I was here and I'll do it, but I wouldn't really even give my contact information.

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30:04 And so the reason why I agreed to do this podcast a year ago is because I found out that that so one of the kidnappers is on death row. When they got out of prison after twenty six years, he reoffended and murdered girls and raped them and he's on death row. The other one that escaped from prison did reoffend. He went back to prison several times. But I found out that a year ago he was going to be off garole for life. I found out he also lives thirty minutes from where I live in New Jersey.

30:31 So I live in New Jersey. But so, you know, the thing is is that when all this happened, what is supposed to happen is the courts are supposed to notify you as a minor when something to this degree happens when somebody gets out of prison, for your own safety. But because my parents were divorced and then I moved with my father, I guess I fell through the cracks and then I became an adult. So I was never notified that, you know, they had gotten out of prison.

30:54 So even though I knew that it would happen, one day, I was I didn't know a timeline. There were sentence from to thirty to sixty years. I didn't know what was happening. And so when I randomly found out a year ago from my attorney, by the way, I'm something else. She said, you know, I you know, she knew my maiden name, and she said, you know, I'm it's it appears that there's this person on parole. And I was terrified, and I said, she goes is that you? And I said, yeah, and she said, you know, he lives not too far away from you. And he was also trying to sue the State of New York because once you are a sex offender to that degree with minors and you get out of prison, you are forever banned from the Internet,

31:32 so you couldn't have Facebook. And by the way, I never had Facebook in my life either because I never wanted them to find me. So I was the only person on this planet. Even now I'm fifty seven, I don't have Facebook and the only person that doesn't have Facebook or any social media I have Instagram a few years ago because my twenty eight year old daughter, when she moved out, I wanted to see what she was up to. So I did an Instagram, you know account.

31:57 She realized what I was doing and she blocked me so that I could. You know, then that was it. That was my whole thing with social media. So he tried to see the State of New York to get access to Facebook because he said that was like against his civil rights. He was declined, but my attorney said, I think he's looking for you. So I decided I was going to come out and I was going to say what happened because one of the things that I found out is that he in that seven months when he stayed from prison, he was doing terrible things to other girls and some in the process of working with the FBI now and there are seven murders that took place.

32:33 There's four girls that have been identified. We're trying to identify the other three that we believe that he's associated to. So here, I was all these years living like this really private life, even though I was doing these readings. I didn't really want anyone to know who I was or you know, how to reach me. But when I realized that a year ago that he was out there and he was trying to find me, and he was, you know, had the audacity to try to sue the State of New York to get the access to Facebook, which I don't even have, I thought, you know what, no, I'm not going to be private. I thought, I'm going to tell the world and I'm going to you know, put him behind bars, and I want everyone to know.

33:07 And then something unexpected happened that I didn't anticipate. So when I did the podcast first, I got tons of edible arrangements and flowers and candy and you know, wine, and from all these clients and people that didn't know my story and didn't know what happened, because you know, here I was like, for example, going to you know, a famous musicians party when I was in the twenties, and they would ask me, how are you psychic? You know what makes you so special? But I never wanted to tell my story. And even though there were a few people in Hollywood that didn't know my story, they kept it private. So I would just say, well, I just yeah, I don't know, I just know things. But I didn't want them to know. So when it finally

33:44 came out a year ago, all these clients of mine reached out and you know, and you know, they were so gracious and so wonderful. But then I thought, because all these years, when I would do a reading and I would tell people what I would predict, they I think they thought, you know, well, here you are, you have such a charmed live. If you're a psychic, you know, what do you know? How do you you know you don't really know what it's like to go through difficult things because I never told people that part of it.

34:08 And so now I was able to say listen. Not only because when I do a reading, I do a few things. I don't just tell you what I predict. I tell you what I predict, but I also say it's going to be really hard or really sucky for a while. But this is what this is the light at the end of the tunnel, this is what you're working towards. You can get through this. And in the past, I think people, you know, because again they just thought it was like me looking at my crystal ball predicting it.

34:31 But when I said, I know what you went through or are going through because I went through this really terrible thing, it changed my readings. Because even though I was, you know, famous without being famous, you know, I had this clientele and I was making tons of money for forty five years. It was like a new level of respect and I and I had. And what it did change things because then people felt different about me. They felt like the message that I was giving them wasn't just a hopeful one, but one from you know, a point of view that I understand the struggle like a human struggle, what it's like going through.

35:05 And uh, and then I have to ask you this question, why, with all your abilities and all your your understanding of why things are in the world, the way the world works and everything. Why do you believe this happened to you in this life? Is this something that you and I say this very I'm asking this question for a very specific reason because so many people go poor me, poor me, poor me. It's a gunny question, and I want I want you to tell them. Yeah.

35:33 So okay, So this is my fifty seven year old self right now, you and I meet fifty seven, going to give you this grand answer. And I have known from the age of thirteen when I so after the trial, my dad said that your mom is the one that did the five dollars, but that's why it happened. The guy escaped from prison and this wasn't random. I'm like, holy shit, you know, because that's a whole different level of I realized from thirteen to now that it had to happen, and it was going to happen. But what I did realize was that I designed this. So I believe what happens is when before we incarnate, before we're here and we're you know, when I was my spiritual self on the other side, you know, hanging out with

36:15 my other spiritual self buddies, I said listen, I'm going to go back in. I'm going to go back in. I'm going to go be human again. And they're like, oh, you're crazy, why would you do that. I'm like, well, you know what I need to learn for my soul's perfection, and I believe what happens. It's like when you go to high school and you pick your classes, and you know, sometimes you give yourself really difficult classes, and even your guidance counselor may say that's too much. You're putting too much on your plate. So here I was my spiritual self knowing that I had to learn from my soul's perfection, and I believe that I chose it. And that's why I believe we all do. I don't think that anything is random. I think that we choose, you know, because again,

36:52 you know, we're brave when we're spiritual, you know, before we come back in, I'm like, oh, I got this. I can handle this without knowing that I chose this. So it is not for me, it is for me, you know. I think when I'm on the other side again, I'm going to have a talk with like I'm going to be a Karen and talk to the manager and be like, you should have let me do that, that was too much. But I do realize that we all do choose what we are going to go through for our soul's perfection, and the goal I believe is to to go through it, to learn from it, to master our human life so we can get to the spiritual side of it. So that's why I you know, I was able to embrace doing readings, and I just wanted

37:31 to be safe while I was doing it, but I know that I was the one that did it, which sounds.

37:35 Creat Yeah, No, Listen, crazy is relative in this in this show.

37:42 Thank you, thank you, thank you.

37:44 Yeah, many people think I'm crazy, so it's a very it's a very relative in this show. Without question. Before we continue, I want to thank you for sharing your story with us, and thank you saying so yeah and saying so publicly this because it I feel it's going to help a lot of people listen, help them heal, and also let them process things that happen to them, because, like I said, there, I don't think there's a soul that comes down here, maybe with a few exemptions of a couple of avatars, but other than that that doesn't escape without any negative things or any trials or tribulations or any struggles, because that's why we're here.

38:22 It's the point, the whole, that's the whole reason, right, And I actually believe that, you know, I don't want to say that I'm this brave warrior because you know, I mean, it is horrific what I went through. Even now. I mean, I'm triggered all the time. Like I said, you know, you know, this is the forty fifth year of when it happened to me, And so I think about all these things that have happened in my life and all these opportunities I've had, and all these people I know. But I mean, I but I also am just like a normal person here. I hear I do readings all day long from my home. And I mean even my neighbor doesn't even think I have a job, like make sarcastic remarks to me when I get the mail,

38:55 and he's like, you know, women in twenty twenty four work, and I'm like, okay, And I said to my house you think that I have a job, And I'm like solving you know, cases for the police, and then you know the FBI and and you know, and all these like high level things I'm doing, and he thinks I'm like, you know, day drinking and watching Netflix all day.

39:14 Yeah, well, I mean, but who does what does he really think? No, I mean, listen, when people ask me what I do, I'm like, uh, I talk to people on YouTube. It's insane. It's insane, you know.

39:29 Yeah, and I have you know, I have an annual party every year where it's about two hundred people, and even a couple of years ago, so there's a couple of cops on my street and one of the cops is like, what do you do for a living? And I go, well, what do you think I do? And he says, well, a lot of people come in and out of your house. So I said to my husband, he probably thinks I'm either a prostitute or a drug dealer.

39:48 I go, I'm a psychic, and he goes, Okay, I would never have guessed that, but you know, I'm glad to hear you know that was what you were doing. But so now everybody knows. I mean, you know, before I was in advertising, but it was for my own safety because I had a young daughter at the time and I wanted to have a normal life, and I was really afraid, you know. I mean, I can't even emphasize that enough. I mean, right now, I mean, and I'm still not not afraid. By the way, I am afraid, but I'm not. I feel like I'm going to take over my story because I now have a new So an article is going to come out in the New York Times as a follow up to what happened that he is off parole and he lives down the street

40:24 from me.

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40:39 Nut, you know, thirty minutes but to me, it's down the street, you know, So he's thirty minutes away. So there's going to be a documentary that comes out, and there's also an opportunity for a TV show that's going to come out based on me and a few other Psyche gigs. And at the time when this this opportunity came, I said, I don't want to do that. I mean, I I think you can take selfies. I don't want to be on a reality show. And they came to me and I kept at first. One of my clients that many years said, you know this big shot wants to do the show about you, and I said, I'm not interested, and I would even take the zoom calls.

41:13 I would just not even go on. And he said, what are you doing? And I'm like, oh, because I didn't want that. But then when I realized, this gives me a platform to do what I want to do as far as my story, because that's the reason. It's not for my it's not for more readings because I don't need more readings. I don't need more people. But it's because I want people to know when we go through really terrible things, we are the ones that design it.

41:37 We did it for a reason. But if you're brave enough to get through it and understand that you'll have to learn for your soul's perfection, there's really fabulous things waiting for you. Because every day I can tell you that I live with such gratitude. I feel like every day I won the lottery. And sometimes I have really difficult days. I was working on a missing child case last week and I found the child, but the child was not alive, and that most of the time is the case that they're not alive. So it's not always a happy story, but it gives the family closure and it gives them peace because we all want to be found, we all want to be you know, you know, but to rest and giving closures. So I realized that is

42:15 what I was here for. I realize now in hindsight, why I then, you know what I made up my classes for this lifetime, why I had to go through all this, And I'm grateful for it, even though it sounds crazy because I had to go through something so terrible to be able to identify and to deal with these thousands of people that I deal with and to help with missing children, or because I don't think we always want to help people, and I don't think I would do it. I don't think is after you make a certain amount of money. I think I'd be like, all right, you know what, I'm going to go on vacationion, I'm going to live it up. I'm going to go shopping.

42:48 I wouldn't always be answering the calls. I wouldn't always be doing readings. But I want to give people hope because I remember what it was like, not feeling hopeful, not feeling like I could go on. You know. I sometimes give people the analogy of like Wizard of Oz. Remember when Dorothy was, you know, up in the tornado and the house land and she you know, she opened the door and all she saw the munchkins and the different colors and everything was it wasn't in black and white anymore. And I feel like that's what happened to me once all this happened. It was like I was able to see life differently, differently than everybody else. And even though, yeah, your life does feel black and white and it is really difficult, and a lot of bad

43:27 things happen to us, if we can just flow through them and know that we're going to get to the other side and it's okay that we're going through that and you know, be excited about what's happening. I believe that not only does it change us in our experience, but it's a ripple effect to all the people that we deal with. Because if I do a reading for you and I help you and I give you hope, I don't just give you hope, but everybody you deal with now you're you act different and you vibrate different.

43:52 So it is a ripple effect. And I believe that it helps us at a higher level, our higher consciousness. But I think it helps humanity. So I don't think that I'm so special that I myself, because I tell people all the time if I lose my car keys, I can't even find them. My husband says, sometimes says, you can find a body, but you can't find your car keys. You know. I tasslitly tell him call my phone.

44:14 He's like, can't you just the same way you help the police last week find your own phone.

44:18 You know.

44:18 I can't sometimes even do that for myself. But I realized the big picture of it, and and it's a miracle. It's it's it's a it's a it's a great life. It's a great life to have, and I'm I'm happy to be able to share it to to help people get through all the hard things they have to get through.

44:36 No. Nette, you mentioned that you know that sometimes there's a struggle, uh, and that we have to plow through it to get to the other side of it. There seems to be a collective struggle that the planet's going through, that humanity is going through, and our consciousness is going through. As as as a psychic what do you see as this whole kind of stuff that we're going going through and to give people hope and also to give people the truth of what's coming.

45:05 Well, I think it's good actually because think about this. So I actually when I did the original, so I've done a couple podcasts now and like I said, years ago, who was on other things, But I then, for you know, like thirty years, didn't want to be on TV, didn't want to do radio shows. So I was, you know, kind of just doing my own thing. Then a year ago I did this one podcast and I made a prediction on the podcast that freaked a lot of people out.

45:27 They were you know, and even freaked out the person I did the podcast for, you know, you know that everybody was all nervous. I said, listen, you don't have to even look at me, because if you look at the history books, you know, we've always from the beginning of time, there's always been a lot of heartache for everybody.

45:41 There's always been wars, there's always been a depression, there's always been money strung right, there's always disease. You know, this is not a new thing twenty twenty four and what we're going through is not new. But I believe that we have to go through it because we as because I think two things happen. I think that as we go through our own personal struggles and we raise our consciousness to a higher level of consciousness, and we do flow through it and we do master our human life.

46:07 So it doesn't mean that we never have struggles, but we can get through them and then we can vibrate higher and have the best life we can. Then it's a ripple effect to other people which helps connect to humanity. That then the higher consciousness is more And I do believe that we do, as time goes on, collectively get to get this higher vibrational level. Because even now in twenty twenty four, I remember thirty years ago, it didn't feel like the universe was vibrating high. I mean I felt like I was, but I didn't know a lot of people that were. I know a lot of people that are because humanity is because we're getting smarter, like even with AI. You know, I know, you know, AI is so interesting. You're either you love it or you

46:47 hate it, depending on how you feel about it. But I say, well, it's just like a microwave. I remember in high school, we were like the last one on the block to get a microwave, and I thought, oh, this is kind of crazy. But now when you think of a microwave, that's nothing. Pretty soon twenty years from now, we'll think AI is nothing, that it's just an evolution the way that it's supposed to go. So I don't think that anything that goes on in the world that is difficult is a bad thing, because that is the other thing that all these experiences have given me. I see things as events. I don't think of them as positive or negative. And even though I know and sometimes they use the analogy of like the lottery or breaking

47:24 your leg, I know, from a human perspective, if you win the lottery, that feels great, and if you break your leg, that doesn't feel great. But breaking your leg from a spiritual standpoint, might be better than any lottery because usually we you know, the most change happens when we go through difficult times and we do have a better life. So you know, in that moment, you think, oh, it was an accident that I broke my leg, but it's not really an accident. You were meant to break your leg. It's an inconvenience. You don't want to break your leg, but you are supposed to so when wars go on, when there's diseases, when all these terrible things happen, and they are terrible to some degree, I don't think

47:59 it's like the world just under attack. I just believe it's the way it's supposed to be, because that is the whole point. That is how we learn.

48:06 If you don't mind me asking, what was that prediction that you've been in that other show that got everybody all would up.

48:11 Well, here we go, so let's get what we can get everyone rolled up. It was about the financial you know future.

48:18 So before so before you continue, I want to preface this. We are due economic ups and downs. There's always the boom and the bust. We haven't had anything since two thousand and eight. We are about a decade overdue for something to happen economically. You could just look out throughout the history. Every eight to ten years something happens. So without that, I just wanted to preface that for everybody to know that's not the same.

48:45 Thank you, thank you. And so Actually, when I did the first podcast, you know, I did it and it was taped, so after it was over, my husband said how to go, and I go, Oh, I went, so fast. I don't even remember what I said. And so when that part came out and I heard about that prediction, and then, you know, on a backlash, my husband said, well, that's barely a prediction because everybody knows that because that's just the way life works. You're right, we are due.

49:10 So what I said that was the controversial part was not that we would just go through this financial hardship. But I said that the way that we use money, you know, currency was going to change. And I said on it at that moment. It wasn't even about bitcoin at that time, and because I think even the person asked me, well, do you mean bitcoin or whatever cryptocurrency?

49:30 And I go, well, kind of, but not even really, not that, not like what you would think. I said, So what I believe will happen with our financial money, it's going to collapse. So I think the word collapse is what makes people sink. But you know, you know, but like COVID, when COVID happened, even though many people knew that COVID was going to happen, and they didn't have a name for it, but they knew because again like even like Bill Gates knew from ten years prior that that something like a pandemic, what's going to happen, and was trying to tell everybody that this was going to happen. It happened to us, and it changed the world.

50:03 I believe that the financial crisis that will happen will change the way that we barter and use money. We will use a different exchange and it's not good or bad, it's just different. It's just because something will happen that attacks our financial systems. So it's not just like we go through a depression or a recession. That's one thing.

50:21 It's the actual currency that changes, So it would be more like, you know, think about it now. Nowadays, I can go out to lunch with my daughter and I can, you know, zell her the money.

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50:41 But you know, thirty years from ago, that sound crazy, we could even imagine that that would happen. So we will no longer have dollar bills or euros or that it will be more of a you know, like a transactional computer wire system, not actual you know, give me change for my dollars here. So I think that what makes people nervous is So I had a lot of people that contacted me that were senior citizens that said, I don't even use the computer. I don't have online banking.

51:09 How am I going to manage? I said, listen, I didn't say this to make anybody panic. I just made a prediction that you know and you don't and you could just see what happens. You don't have to even believe what I have to say. But that is just just like COVID. Nobody would have believed that we would have all been walking around in masks, that everybody.

51:25 Would die then were months right?

51:28 That we would be sitting in you know, working from home with our you know the Jamazon, you know we underwear on the bottom and you know, a tie and a spotcoat on top on zoom. Nobody would have ever imagined that happened. But I say to people, think as awful as it was, it kind of reset the world because think about how we weren't in the rat race anymore.

51:48 We got to eat dinner with our family, do puzzles. You know, it felt like thirty years ago to me. So even though a lot of bad things happened, I think a lot of good things came out of COVID, and I think the same with the financial crisis. So the prediction is more not just that it's a recession or a depression, it's the exchange of the currency. But again, I don't even know that that's so much of a prediction prediction because I think that anybody, if you really think about it, should know that that's where we're headed.

52:14 Anyways, Yeah, that's that's not a question. And I've heard about the currency as well, and that also makes sense because of the way we've been inflating our currency and propping it up and constantly printing money, and where the US alone is like what thirty trillion in the whole or something something.

52:35 I mean, there's a better way to do it, I mean, right, And I think that we realize that in a few years.

52:41 Yes, So so let me ask you this. When you said there's a better way of doing it, I've been saying, and many of my guests have said, that the old systems need to come down. Older systems that are not serving us anymore need to come down to make ray for these new systems. And that's in every avenue of life, from religion to economic to health care to education, to media, all of it. These older systems need to be brought down so these new systems can come up. Is that what you're seeing as well?

53:12 Yeah, because think of it. You know, it's almost like you have to make space for the news. You got to get rid of the old. The old has to breakdown. Most people are not forward thinking enough or brave enough to meet things head on there. You know, a lot of people are afraid of change and how it's gonna affect them. So it has to almost break down because we're not even we're so primal, so primitive actually when you think about it that, you know, we think we're so smart and such higher beings of higher consciousness, but we're not. Because when something new, we all freak out.

53:41 I mean, I've had so many AI conversations, and I say people, I mean it's helpful. I mean I think AI has helped me with several things recently. I thought, oh, this is freaking fantastic. Why would you not want this? So it almost has to come down to a screeching pull. Things have to break down completely so that we can't.

54:00 But that's just the natural way of things, and it's not a scary thing at all.

54:04 Now what other? What other? Is there anything else that you can tell people in regards to the rest of this year and in the coming decade that we have besides economic that you would like to share with the audience.

54:15 So you know, you're a great interviewer. Because I didn't know what we were going to talk about, I was thinking, I should I say this, this is this? So I'm going to say a few things that so prior to the assassination attempt with Trump, you know, July thirteenth, I'll never forget it. I was. I actually had that weekend off.

54:35 I was not going to work that weekend, so I was I sent to my housband, Let's do what normal people do. Let's go out to dinner. And then the next day we were going to go to a movie like Matt and had like two old people, and I said, let's just do normal things. Okay. So I was out to dinner and I had my cell phone on the table out to dinner and he's like, why do you have yourself? And I go, A client's got to reach me.

54:53 They're just going to text me whatever. My phone started blowing up and I answered it, and it ended up that there was a high level of fish connected to this intel on this assassination attempt. But it was the day before and they said to me, and he's a client of mine. And this person said to me, uh, you know, can you where are you? And I said, uh, I'm out to dinner. And they because they could hear that I wasn't like at home or whatever, and they're like, well, you know, I need to ask you some questions about the president if you think that that's not just like, hey, are you going to meet your boyfriend next week? I said, I need to like go home and meditate. I said, can I get back to you? And they go, no,

55:33 this is you know, we have intel on this. We need an answer. And I said, all right, well I'll leave dinner, I'll go home. I'll call you back like in an hour. So I went home. I did a meditation and I saw it in real time, things that were going to unfold. I called them back and it was, you know, many people involved in this and I and I said what I thought would happen? And I and they said to me, well, do you believe that it can be stopped? And I said, no, I know it won't.

55:57 I said, but the thing is this, and they were assassination. I could not No assassination, I said, but because the intel that we have is about a president is going to die. But I said Biden and they said no, no, it's not Biden. And I said, oh, because I originally thought when they said, is the president to be assassinated?

56:17 And I said no, no, I said no, no, no, he's not going to be assassinated. I said, so when they asked me, well, do we do you believe you could it could be stopped, I said, not only do I think it cannot be stopped. I said, it's already in motion. I said it'll happen really soon. And they said, well, how how soon? I said well, and I knew it was Trump because it was invited, and at that time Biden was running still. And so I said, what if you looked at his schedule, and you looked at ever he has scheduled for the next four weeks, it will be one of these events that are already scheduled. It's not like a future event. So I knew it was going to happen soon. And so I, you know, said the chain of events that I thought that took place.

56:57 And then the next day I was at the movies, you know, again during the day, and my daughter texted me, my twenty eight year old daughter, and said Trump just got shot. And I'm like, I go to the lobby and my phone blew up. And the people that contacted me the night of war, and so I had been involved in that since that took place, and that is not something that I would have wanted to be didn't because, you know, unlike helping children and doing that. I mean, I because it's kind of a catch twenty two. You know, you help, I help in some way, but other people got hurt and other people people were killed and it wasn't a great I predicted the presidential elections, like since I'm a kid, been a kid, and I've never been wrong.

57:35 And so about a year ago, a bunch of people that even when Trump won, I said that Trump was gonna win way before he won. And then when he did win, I was on a radio show and you know, that person, you know, made a big deal that I had predicted. I was like one of the only people that predicted that he would have win whatever. So then I predicted you wouldn't win. And so this time around, I kept saying that I don't believe that Trump will win.

57:57 But I said, but Biden's not gonna win either. At the time, people can those two so what do you mean, And I go, well, I don't know what I mean. I don't even know. I just know it's not either one of them. And I have a lot of clients now, like you know, high little politicians that who esping me for months, who at the time didn't realize. And so when all this stuff with Biden happened, then that's when I realized that's why I was being shown that it would be neither one of them. So I can see the election. I see also that for us, so the financial crisis that will take place. So I believe that in the next two years, like crazy, people are going to go towards spirituality, like your neighbor, you're a best friend.

58:38 People who don't talk about it much all of a sudden become spiritual beings. They kind of get the big picture, because I do believe that there's a shift with the world that makes us all. Like when I was a kid and I had this near death experience that I had my spirit guide. Then I saw that video of my life and I got the bigger meaning I feel like we all just kind of start to get it within the next two years. And I don't think that's accidentally happening. I think collectively humanity is about to march in a different direction. So all of a sudden, we get to this level with again, doesn't matter who you are or what age you are, you just feel spiritual and you kind of understand, you kind of get this.

59:16 That changes us as a whole, and that changes our species and our race, because I do believe that there are major changes with when you think about it, you know, we we were cavemen, and then you know we've evolved over all the years, these years, and I think that there's a major evolution that's taking place now. But it can't just be like it is now. It can't just be you and I living the way we are. So I think that everybody has to get on board. And I do think that part of what COVID was, which is I know sounds terrible and I lost a lot of people in COVID, So I don't want to say this lightly, but I think that it was a reboot.

59:47 I think that it was you know, the universe saying in a very big way, we need to reset, we need you know, things are not going the right way where this is a rat race, everyone's you know, not thinking correctly because not only I did a lot of people pass away and that was terrible, but it changed the way we thought. It changed the way we processed life and the way that we interacted with one another.

1:00:09 And so I believe that when we go towards this idea of spiritual weality, whatever your beliefs are, it is because our our consciousness raises and we become smarter. Because one of the things also that you know, during my teenage years, so again I wasn't just like a normal teenager.

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1:00:38 There was a period of time that I felt like I knew really like what a UFO would be or an alien would be, but I didn't really care about it. I wasn't studying it, I wasn't trying to know, and I just would know. I would just have this feeling like I knew. And then there was a period of about several months where I would actually like, no, I would I would just have a thought and I would go to bed and it would feel like I was having a dream of like an experience like being on a UFO or with aliens. And then a couple months later I realized, like, Okay, these are not experiences like I'm having where I'm dreaming. I'm actually you know, I think I'm sleeping, but I'm actually experiencing this because I

1:01:16 knew it, just like that near death experience, I knew that I was it was real, but I wasn't telling everybody because it felt foreign. It was again so many years ago, not a lot of people were open to it, and even now I don't tell many people about it. But one of the things that is notable about that is I remember being like around these aliens. Let's say that we're so high tech. We're so like vibrating very very high and vibrating to a point where like it was like, so when I vibrate high, I tell people that I can see a color, but also is music, which is also a language, so it's not just like a vibration. It's like everything mixed together. These aliens were all those things back when I even knew what that was,

1:01:58 and we were so you know, we're so primitive. I feel like we become more like they are that we that, but we have to have not just get yeah, we evolve to that level. So that's why in two years that will happen.

1:02:12 So what I'm hearing is also from different channelers and other sidekicks I've been on the show, is that we're going to have a major encounter in the next two years with with beings from an uh you know. And I don't want to put the tinfoil hat on. I try to keep this house as ground I try to keep the show as grounded as it can be. But the facts are that there's probably some life out there.

1:02:36 There's just just by logically by numbers, yes, yes, yes, so is it possible? Sure? And I keep hearing it from multiple things. But when I hear it's not going to be Independence Day or aliens like you know, like Predator or something like that. It's going to be something that's going to help evolve and lift us to a to a higher and higher places. That's very, very fascinating.

1:03:01 I appreciate you giving me all that insight in regards to the political stuff. So you're saying that you're predicting that Harris is going to win at this because are the only two in there, yes, okay, and now.

1:03:12 Yeah, And by the way, for everybody listening or watching, there's not even who I want to necessarily and not who I don't want you, So I'm not making you know, it's not what I want personal my prediction, yes, exactly.

1:03:25 So what I heard as well is that if either of them win, there's going to be some sort of chaos. There's going to be some sort of upheaval, There's going to be some sort of something that happens. So if Harris wins, you know, are we going to have another January sixth? Are we? Is there some other stuff that's going to bubble up because of that?

1:03:44 Yeah, So I'm going so I'm going to tell you life. I would tell other people because sometimes, you know, what I do a reading, because it's not always unicorns and rainbows, and when I do reading, it's not all happy things, and they're not I get cursed out a lot people are you know, are not always happy, and then they eventually call me back or come back and apologize because things came true. But you know, it's not all great.

1:04:05 So I even hate to say that, I do feel like something like that will happen because then people say, well, then you're putting it in everyone's mind. Well that's nonsense, you know, I mean, but I do believe something like that will happen because I do feel like there's such unrest in this world that think about it. It, Yes, it matters who wins a presidential election for anybody in any country, and those things do matter. But if we all take our own personal responsibility to know that we all have a choice in this, we can all, you know, go and vote, we can all fight for what we believe is right. Because like even when I was a twelve year old girl, I could have died, or I could have been you know, brave and jumped out of

1:04:42 that window and just did what I had to do. So sometimes we do have to do the hard things to make our lives better. So if you really have strong convictions and you believe that so and so should be the president, or you want laws to be changed, well then fight for those things to happen. But I do believe that there will be a big part of the world of this country that are not going to like the results, and I do believe that they will retaliate, and I and I don't think that's a great thing to do, you know, and I don't want to, you know, make that prediction. And again people are going to say, oh, you put that in their minds, that that's crazy, because I'm not, because you know, because people know right from wrong.

1:05:18 But I do believe that that will happen. Yeah.

1:05:20 Interesting, and I think that's terrible.

1:05:23 You know, it's terrible that that will.

1:05:25 No, of course, but we've gone through it before. And it's again, it's not as much of a prediction that as this is a logical stance on something like that, because you're looking at it. I mean, you're not talking about like, you know, I believe that the moon is going to crash into the Earth in a year and a half, like it's something that's so you're saying that goes that makes sense. It happened already. It literally, it literally happened already.

1:05:49 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

1:05:51 Only logic would dictate that there would be some sort of response regarding that, you know so, And and like you said before, I think some of these things might need to happen in order for us to wake up to like, you know, these wars are happening around around the world. You have to go No, that's not what we want to be, and that's not what we want to be. Is there is there an event that's going to you say, in the next two years, we're going to wake up, and I agree with you. I think this decade is a very pivotal decade, and there's going to be many more things coming in the decades to come, but this decade specifically, since twenty twenty, we came in hot.

1:06:28 We came in very hot. There hasn't been a decade like this in my lifetime nor in yours. I think that so much has transpired already and we still have, you know, five six years left.

1:06:42 I will tell you this, So I believe in So this is twenty and twenty four and I'm fifty seven now, so I can't do the quick math in my head. But when I believe, I believe around two thousand and fifty and now, when I was a kid, and again I think it was like thirteen or fourteen, two thousand and fifty, I saw that year and that seemed like, you know, really far off. I mean now it even it seems far off now, but you know, forty years ago was even really far off. Two thousand and fifty is going to be the biggest game changer, because see these little things that we're talking about now, like the financial thing that's going to happen with the change of currency, presidential election, you know again kind of the same thing.

1:07:22 No big deal. These are minor steps. But in twenty and fifty, I think there's a total reset. I think what happens is that we are vibrating at a very high level. I do not believe that we are living like human beings like we live now, Like where we're getting in our car. I feel like it is very space age, very much so. And I don't think because when you think about ten years ago, well you were you know, you might be driving a nicer car than you were ten years ago, but you still were driving a car. You weren't you know, you weren't in you know, you weren't hovering over something, you know, like the Jetsons.

1:07:52 You weren't doing that. So it wasn't that big of a deal. But I think in twenty and fifty everything changes, and I think that human beings looked different. I think that medicine is different. I don't think that you have to take medicine anymore. I believe that you will be healed by light, like colored light. I believe that. You know, like even years ago, you can't imagine having anything done labroscopically.

1:08:16 You would have to be invasively cut. And now lots of things are, you know, labroscopic. I don't believe even that will happen. I believe it will be like light therapy. Will that will change. So in the year of two thousand and fifty, I think is the biggest reset that you know, some of us will be alive for. But I think that the world is completely different because in the last few decades it's been the same, which just became more you know, we have cell phones and microwaves.

1:08:40 Yeah, but it seems that the speed of everything is growing so much more exponentially from one two thousand. I mean, I had a website in nineteen ninety seven, I had a big online business in ninety seven ninety eight.

1:08:53 Wow.

1:08:54 And from that I know exactly right. And I was one of the first people on YouTube in two thousand and five. So I from that time to where we are right now, that's twenty twenty five years. At this point, it is night and day from where we were. But every year that's gone by, I mean AI showed up a year ago, a year and a half ago, really really in the zeitgeist, you know, when chat ChiPT hit.

1:09:21 I still remember like people going, Oh, what's this AI thing? And oh what's this thing? It was it was the exact same thing that happened in ninety six when I was in college, going what's this internet thing? Where do I get that AOL floppy disc so I can log into fluff? And it was that thing, Oh what's this new this new streaming? What's this net? Netflix? What's it called?

1:09:42 Like?

1:09:42 It's I remember all of this and now it's just like, oh yeah, of course now it's it's so it's moving expedentially fast. You know, we have rockets that land themselves. You know, we're taking tours up into space for very expensive tours, but tourists nevertheless, you know, so.

1:10:02 Pretty soon that'd be nothing. That'll be like going to Central Park.

1:10:07 We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show. Yeah, you and I will jump on just like going on a plane.

1:10:19 You and I will jump on a plane. Not around tomorrow. I'm going to the moon, yeah, see, yes, Thursday.

1:10:25 Yeah, And that's that's what we were promised, by the way when we were growing up, this space age, flying car stuff. I'm still waiting, but it hasn't come up as a cottum, right, right, But that's all very fascinating, And also that this everything you're talking about, there is hope for all of this. It's and I've been saying this to people for a while. It's gonna be bumpy, it's it's gonna be challenging, but we will be better on the other side of this. We are getting to a place where, hopefully by twenty one hundred, our species and our our consciousness is raising to a much, much high I believe.

1:11:03 I believe it will, and I think and I and again, you know, knowing that I don't think one event is better than the other. I think there are two different experiences. And I and again, you know, I can say this from my own life because I've had a horrific, really horrific I've had really great things, but really really terrible, horrific things. So they have to happen, good and bad have to happen, or what we perceive to be good at bad, so that you can value things. So things have a meaning, they have a purpose, they're they're worth fighting for because I mean, I have such a fabulous life, and I mean again, I do you know, I do tons of work with missing children and it's really sad and terrible and a lot of evil people. But every

1:11:38 day I feel grateful. I feel thankful for my life. I feel thankful for my neighbor who you knows, smart ass things to me out at the mailbox, who doesn't think I have a job. And I think that's funny, you know, I think you know because it's not just the big major things in life. It's it's every little detail of your life. And that because it's the totality of everything that makes us have a great life and know the meaning of it. And I tell people it doesn't matter if you're going through a challenging any time, because you're not always going to and you should actually be glad that you are because not something's going to change, there is change on the other side for you, and that you know it was just going to be better

1:12:13 and bigger. And I do feel like we are supposed to help each other, and I do believe that that's why I do this work. But I do believe that humanity has to change, and I think about it now, you know. I mean when my daughter was an elementary school and I was doing readings, and when I was in California, I was known for like being a famous medium, and I didn't even want to be a medium actually at all. It kind of scared me. And for some reason I was really known for that. And so my daughter went to school, elementary school, and said that my mother talks to dead people, and the school called me and I had to go to school and talk to them, and they, you know, and they said, well, what do you do? And I said, well, actually, I you know,

1:12:51 she's right, And they thought it was great. But you know, now in twenty twenty four, nobody even thinks it's a big deal. But back then it was a big deal.

1:12:58 Oh it was a huge deal.

1:13:00 Oh, I mean they you know, I thought Child Protection Services was going to get involved, and you know, she was gonna have to go to special counseling, and so would I and and you know, but now you know, everybody that you know, you know, vibrates higher and they believe in higher consciousness, but not to the degree that we're going to. So I think that I'm really excited about two years from now you know, I don't think I don't care about the election. You know, I do care for personal reasons about certain things, but I know that those little things just get us to that bigger picture of the two years because that's when I feel like humanity really does change on a grand, grand scale, and I think it's an exciting time to be around.

1:13:38 Is there going to be a catalyst for that change or is it just going to happen?

1:13:41 There will there will be a catalyst.

1:13:44 And uh, but every so everybody, So everyone watching and listening when she's pausing, and I'm just gonna and I'm please correct me if I'm wrong. You're hearing the answers coming in from the other side, and you're right.

1:13:58 And I'm also I'm also trying to worded to not make you know, the average person freak out or collapse with panic, because I never want to do that. And again, I don't think that that's what it's going to be. So I believe that there's a few things that happen. We do have the financial crisis that again it's not in the long run we're better off, but a lot of people don't meet it like that, So there'll be a lot of panic. There will be something similar to COVID but different that makes this panic, and there will be more beings. And again this is where you know a lot of people that know what I do for a living. You know, I am a medium and I am a psychic, but I don't talk about aliens often and hardly ever. But I believe that there's going to

1:14:36 be a lot of I don't want to say alien invasion because that sounds, you know, not very yeah, right, But I do believe, you know, kind of the idea that that regular people will have inner actions with aliens or or higher beings from other galaxies that there's no question to happen, not just like you know, oh I think it might have happened. They're like no, no, no, last Tuesday at three o'clock, this happened, you know, and people from all across the world. Because I think that that invasion, which again it's not a scary thing, it's not an invasion, but that like, we need beings that are higher than us to kind of, you know, remind us that you guys are still not where you need to be. We're light years, no pun intended, ahead of

1:15:17 you guys. So I do believe that you're going to hear a lot more of that. And I do think that people, kind of mainstream people try to steer away from that idea of like what we think an alien is because it seems so foreign and even myself, I mean, I even I'm imagining a month from now, and you know, my neighbor who's going to get the mail is going to see me and he's going to be like, what it's going to happen with these aliens? Are all these other people that are going to say this, but it should just kind of be I don't want to say obvious, but it feels really obvious to me that that would be the next step. And I think that is the catalyst that part.

1:15:49 And that I have a dream that one day people in the future will look back on the show as an oddity that they're like, they really needed to talk about this kind of stuff about frequency and operation, and like it's just so rudimentary. It's a It's the equivalent of you and I looking back in two thousand, you know, two thousand years ago and going, don't you guys get that that's not know and that's do you not hear what Jesus is saying, I mean, he has he's got some good ideas here, guys, like what's going on? Like it would that kind of right Somewhere there'll be a computer and some kid will log in and go next level?

1:16:29 So who is this?

1:16:30 Right?

1:16:31 Mom? What's a psychic? Aren't we psychic? Everyone's psychic?

1:16:33 H what I mean exactly? Because they'll already be at their highest level, vibrating high on a regular basis, not you know, us getting to that point. I one percent agree, And to me, it feels like that just seems like the natural stuff for everybody. But I mean, I think that, you know, the big message is is that we live our daily life a lot of people in fear because most people, you know, I tell people, we are supposed to enjoy the whole thing. We don't just enjoy it when we get to the point we think we're supposed to get to, but along the way, you know, even during the trials and tribulations, because if you don't enjoy all of it, you know. I mean, sometimes I'll do a reading for a person and a young person and

1:17:14 it'll be a young woman, let's say thirty years old, and I'll, you know, tell her who she's going to marry. And I can't tell you how many times they'll say to me that that bride to be will say, well, well, I be happy, And I said, what, that's what you're hoping for? I said, you know what, you might not be happy because if you're happy now, you know, just because you get to that point you meet Prince Charmy, maybe you won't be happy. Because happiness is a state of mind. It's being in the moment and living your best life, feeling hopeful, feeling positive, knowing that you can get through all this. It's not that you know when you get to this end road that all these great things happen. That's not really the idea. And I think

1:17:50 that that's kind of what motivates me to do readings. I mean, because I don't know that I would always want to do this. It doesn't always feel great in doing it, you know, on a daily basis, giving individual readings day after day after day. But every time I do a reading, I feel joyful. I feel hopeful because it does change people's lives. Because even though I feel like, all right, I know this, I know this because of everything I've gone through. But that doesn't mean that the person next to me knows it, and I do believe that it helps everybody and changes your life.

1:18:20 No, I'm going to ask you a few questions, ask all of my questions about all my guests. What is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

1:18:26 Living a fulfilled life? Well, I feel like I live with now, and I think that it is living in the moment and not being afraid. And when I say not being afraid, I don't mean like of the Boogeyman, but like not being afraid of Oh, next week I might not have enough money, or next week I might get cancer. Because maybe I will get cancer, or maybe I won't lose my job. But that's okay. Those things can happen, and I can be prepared because I'm gonna, you know, take it one day at a time. So living a fulfilled life for me is just living for this moment, not freaking out about the future because I'll worry about next Tuesday. Next to you, and I do live in fulfilled life. And I have lived a fulfilled life for

1:19:03 a long time. And I you know, I was a single parent for many many years, and I you know, didn't always have a lot of money. I mean I always made a lot of money, but I was like hustling. I raised my daughter in Long Island and we lived in a really great neighborhood. But I was a single parent and I was like, you know, doing reading after reading after reading, and it took all the money that I made to raise her. So it wasn't like we were rolling in money. So I've gone through a lot of really difficult things. But even back then, when I was, you know, struggling in a single parent and hustling, I felt like my life was fulfilled because I felt like I understood the meaning of life and I understood that

1:19:39 that's okay. Then I'm going through all that because I still can live for this moment. So that's what I believe. Living in the moment is fulfilling.

1:19:48 We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show. Now, if you had a chance to go back in time and speak to the and what advice would you give her?

1:20:02 Oh make me cry, I would say, Well to.

1:20:04 Un beautiful, how do you define God or source?

1:20:09 I think God is us all. I think that we're bits and pieces of God. But you know, humanity is God, so you know, we're all you know, you and I and you know the other billions of people are God. And I believe that when we get to when we're able to reach our higher consciousness, we're like, oh, I don't know I was always God. I don't know I was Jesus, but we are. And I think that that's what it is. I think it's higher consciousness. And I think you know. One thing I do have to say that feels important is that I do feel like time is an illusion. And even that feels confusing to say even I'm kind of confused, but I know that. So like I know that my fifty seven year old self, who is talking to my twelve year old self to say,

1:20:53 jump out of the window, because even though you talked to the FBI two hours ago and they know that you're missing and you've been on the TV, they're not going to save you. So you have to jump out of the window to get out. You have to save yourself. It's all happening right now. I don't believe this past president in future. I believe it's all now, which is so confusing. People are like what, So that's why I would say to my younger self, well done, because you know it brings us all to this full circle moment.

1:21:19 I think life is all of us interacting so that we can build our higher consciousness, so that as humanity we can work together. We can be one. You know, we can you know how we feel connected to one person. You meet somebody, You can meet somebody at a party and you just naturally gravitate towards them and you're like, oh my god, it feels like we've known each other forever.

1:21:38 I think that that is when we feel like that mostly about everybody, and that it's just the big picture of us all coming together. That it's not you know, I could want a certain president to win, and you could want somebody else, and I could, you know, have a different career than you do. We can all have differences, but we're vibrating the same way because we're vibrating high.

1:21:56 Because I think that when we go through wars or disease or famine or kidnappings or whatever, that's us vibrating very low, our lower consciousness. That's not our higher being. So that's you know, that's here we're supposed to be here.

1:22:11 So the question was what is love?

1:22:13 Oh? All sort Oh, I think love is is that I think love is everything. I think it's us being collectively together. I think it's a state of being. I feel like it's hopefulness. I feel like it's me feeling like I feel connected to you. I feel that love is everything. I think that love is the bottom line that because if love wasn't the basis of the foundation you want to go forward, It almost keeps you going.

1:22:42 But it's easy to recognize love when everything's great, when you have enough money, when you're married to the right person, when your kids are great, you know, when life is good. Oh, it's easy to define love. It's really really hard to define love when you don't know where your next paycheck's coming from, or if you are even going to have one, when you have termed middle cancer, when your kids are missing, when you you know, when really awful things are happening.

1:23:04 But that is love too, because you have to You have to go through both to experience both the light and the dark.

1:23:11 And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

1:23:13 I think to go through our human existence, our human experience for soul's perfection, to learn to grow to become higher beings. Because I feel like when we are no longer here and we are on the other side, which is just right in front of me, you know, vibrating at a different It's not heaven, you know, three thousand miles in a cloud somewhere. It's just you know, somebody passed aways, you know, eight inches away from me or foot away from me, and they're vibrating at a very high speed. So I think that ask the question against I can answer.

1:23:44 That, what is the ultimate purpose of life?

1:23:47 Yeah, I think it's to live our human experience for soul's perfection, to learn to be the highest elevated spiritual being that we can be. So it's like going through school, you know, you go through first grade through tenth grade to learn same thing with.

1:23:59 This, and where can people find out more about you and the amazing work that you're doing in the world.

1:24:04 So just like I was not on Facebook and I still am not, I do have a website that I started a year ago, so that just started and that's my name, a Nettburka dot com and that's how to find me.

1:24:18 And I will put that link in the show notes and in the description and then that Do you have any parting messages for the audience?

1:24:24 Yeah, you know, I would say to anybody who is watching or listening to not and you know, again, we all feel different about different things, and some things may come across as scary, but that is never my intention, because I mean, really truly living a life of many different things happening to me, I know that there is a greater purpose for all of us. I know that to live a hopeful, joyful life again, despite what's going on, is the meaning of life, and that you know, we can get to the other side and to try to vibrate as high as we can't to get through it.

1:24:53 And I think that that is, you know, my message for everybody. When I do a reading for anybody, it always is to you know, I do medita before I do a reading, and I always say, because I'm always worried it's not going to work. Even though I've done you know, hundreds of thousands of readings since I was a kid, I still am nervous every time, and I just say, please tell me something that I can help this person. And so I just want everyone to know that whatever you get from this today, it's it's not meant to be scary. It is actually the opposite, that there is you know, something more for you waiting that you can get through it, that there is a reason to get through it, that you know there is a light at the end of the tunnel for sure.

1:25:28 And that it has been absolutely a pleasure talking to you today. Thank you so much for being so raw and honest and sharing your your journey with all of us. I hope it really does help a lot of people watching. And I look forward to our next conversation in studio.

1:25:43 He'll be in yes, yes, time, Yeah, in person, my advisor. Yes. I cannot wait. And I want to thank you for this opportunity because, like I said, there's things I've shared today that I didn't plan on shitting. I didn't think I actually if you would have asked me three hours ago, I said, I would have said, there's no way I'm going to say that, And it just felt right, imperfect, and I appreciate the opportunity to even have said that because I do think it makes a difference.

1:26:07 So thank you, and I appreciate you. Thank you again.

1:26:10 Thank you, have a great day.

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