Rewiring the Programs Running Your Life with Bruce Lipton

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1:18 by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul, its host, or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome back to the show returning champion, Bruce Lipton.

1:35 Did I win?

1:36 You won just by being here.

1:39 I'm so happy to be here. I just want to say how much I appreciate your work because... Civilization is facing an evolution, and to get through it requires knowledge. Knowledge is power. And your program, to me, is very important because you are feeding knowledge to a public that is in desperate need to learn how to move from where we are to where we can go.

2:05 Well, first of all, thank you so much, and I appreciate you saying those kind words. And I appreciate you coming down to Next Level Soul Studios. I've been wanting to do this since the first time we spoke. I didn't even have a studio. I'm like, one day I want to sit down with you in person. So it's a joy to have you in the studio. So obviously, we've talked a lot in our past conversations about epigenetics and gone down the road of that and talking about the power of the belief and the power of the mind to heal and to change your genetics and things like that. How powerful can a negative belief be on the body?

2:37 Very, very important question. Why? Oh, positive belief, positive, you know, placebo effect, positive belief, okay? And no one until now is mentioning the negative side. And to me, that was the important part of the conversation that has been left out. Why? Negative thinking is equally powerful as positive thinking. You can heal any disease with positive placebo thinking. What people have to know is you can manifest any disease and even die with negative thinking. It's all it takes. You can get cancer because you believe it.

3:19 That is a lot of times like you don't know it until the doctor says, oh, you have three months to live. And like, well, I guess I have three months to live. And the body reacts.

3:25 Yeah. And this has always come about because for most people, during the formative years of programming, which is up to age 70, If people have a family doctor and anybody gets sick in the family, oh, we have to go to the doctor. I go, well, there's a problem because in that programming it says, well, if it comes to health, I don't know anything about it, but the doctor knows.

3:53 And so you transfer the power of knowledge to whatever the doctor says. So, and this is a scary part because if a prognosis is not positive, it's a prescription to manifest. So, as you mentioned, like, oh, you have three months left to live. And people die in about three months. And, you know, many times in autopsy, they never died from the cancer they were supposed to have died from. They died because of the belief they were going to die. And this all comes down to a simple fact. We are manifestors, creators of our life experiences.

4:35 We are a piece of God. And the idea is you don't recognize the power of that position because we've never been programmed to see ourselves as that. We've been programmed to be victims. And powerless means... I can't do it, but somebody else can do it. And then the question is, how much will it cost to fix me? And you become a customer, a consumer of something on the outside to replace what you already have innately on the inside. Powerful.

5:16 But if you don't believe you're powerful, it's biology of belief. Mm-hmm.

5:21 It's a good book, I heard.

5:22 I heard it's a good book. I've seen a copy.

5:28 Well, then let me ask you this. On the flip side of that, why do people who think positively still get sick?

5:36 That is the most important question because that's where people come and say, well, that must be a bunch of BS, a belief system. And I go, no, you see, when you say the mind, it's in my mind. it conjures up an idea that there's a single entity called the mind, when in fact there are two minds that are interdependent.

6:02 The latest evolution of the mind is right behind your forehead, a lobe of brain called the prefrontal cortex. This is what makes us as individuals different. This is our source. This is our identity. as we get into it, this is the seat of our spirituality, okay? And the character of this conscious mind is creative. So I say, hey, tell me your wishes and desires, and whatever you come up with is a manifestation of a creation. Oh, I want this, I would love to have that, you know?

6:43 I go, yeah, creativity. Then I say, The other part of the mind, which is about 90% of the brain, is the subconscious. And sub means below conscious. It operates without you even paying attention. The subconscious is the equivalent of a hard disk in a computer. It's got programs, what we call programs, habits. Now, there are some good habits.

7:10 When did you learn how to walk? That's a good habit. Before two. And you're still walking. And you can be 100 and you're still walking. I say that's the power of a program. Once it's in there, it's your whole life. So the idea is this. The conscious mind is creative. The subconscious mind is a hard drive with programs in it.

7:36 And then comes this issue. When you're coming from a conscious mind, as an observer and participant in the world, then you're manifesting wishes and desires, okay? And here comes the problem, and nobody's aware, and that's why I thank you for asking. The conscious mind can look out your eyes, pretend your body's a vehicle. Your conscious mind is looking out the windshield, and the conscious mind is driving us to what? Wishes and desires. Wishes and desires. But here comes the problem. The conscious mind can think. I go, what?

8:16 I go, thinking is not looking out. Thinking is looking in. A thought is inside. So the moment you are thinking, you are disconnected from the world at that moment. You're inside. I go, yeah, but I love it if you're driving a car and all of a sudden you say, yeah, well, when I get to the store, I'm going to do blah, blah, blah.

8:42 I'm going, at that moment, you are not driving the car. I go, what do you mean? I say, you're thinking. You're not even looking at the windshield. Yeah, but the car seems to be driving okay. I go, and this is it. The subconscious is autopilot. When the conscious mind is engaged, thinking, the programs in the subconscious mind take over, okay? Now, that subconscious mind is a million times more powerful a processor than is the conscious mind. So I said, yeah, you taught the subconscious mind how to drive a vehicle just as much as you taught it how to walk, okay?

9:26 So the idea is the moment you were thinking about what you were going to do at the destination, the autopilot subconscious took over. And it drives even better than you because the processing power of that mind is fantastic. So the idea was, yeah, you were thinking and the car was being driven unconsciously by the subconscious. Now, to conclude this very important part, how much time does the average person spend thinking? And the answer is, is 95% of the day. Meaning, this is it, 95% of the day your life is operating from the programs you have in the subconscious mind. And because you are not looking out, you don't even see the program you are playing because you're inside. But everybody else is responding to your program, okay?

10:31 And now comes the bitter pill, and that is this. 95% of your life is the program, okay? And percentage-wise, 60% of those programs that we download in our life are disempowering and self-sabotaging. So that means when you're on autopilot 95% of the day, the majority of your behavior is self-sabotaging.

11:04 Well, Bruce, is this what happens when the powers that be are trying to control the populace? by feeding them fear and constantly trying to control them in that way. Because if you, that's a program as well.

11:18 Excuse me, they are controlling them. And this is really important because, well, people watch the media, okay? And then they tell us, this is how life is. Right. These people are bad. And then all of a sudden, you're in your living room and you're watching, you know, the planet go to hell. And you look outside and say, oh my God, we're in trouble. It's like, Well, that's because of the video they're showing you. And it's like, is that the real world, or is that the selection of what they want you to know? Let's go back.

11:55 The idea of this programming, which is biologically and scientifically the first seven years of your life, your brain is not even at the level of consciousness until age seven, okay? Under age seven, you're in a brain function called theta. Theta is imagination and character. So a child under seven lives half of its life in the real world and half of it in the imaginary world. You've got imaginary friends, imaginary games, blah, blah, blah. So I'm saying this is a download period, okay? There is no filtering of life.

12:35 It's a state of hypnosis. That's what failure is, hypnosis. I go, why? Hey, how many things you have to know to be a functional member of a family? Or how many things you have to know to be a functional member of a community? I say, thousands of things. You know, the rules of life. I say, how is a young kid, an infant, going to learn the rules to be a participator? And the answer is, well, they can't read a book and they can't go to a school, but nature has made that mind a state of hypnosis.

13:15 So all you have to do is observe. You observe your parents, their behavior. You observe the community, their behavior, and you download them. Again, you're downloading other people's behaviors, and the majority of them are self-sabotaging, okay? And then 95% of your life, when you're thinking, is coming from those programs. So now I go, 400 years ago, the Jesuits started telling their followers, give me a boy until it is seven and I will show you the man.

13:53 I go, my God, they knew even that it was seven years. And they knew that whatever program went in, 95% of that person's life is a program, and what do they manifest? A Catholic school.

14:11 Why?

14:11 Give them the rules before they're seven, and the program for that would be in their mind just as much as walking would be in that program, and they own you from there, okay? Well, that was 400 years ago. Today, the programming is much more significant than it was when the Jesuits were aware. I always tell people, look at an infant carrying an iPad. And that's that moment you say, that's programming. You're programming an infant to use this computer. Insidious.

14:53 And I say, but most of the programming is very negative. And I say, the result, as we just mentioned, was.

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15:13 The programs make me feel like I'm a victim. I cannot control my genes. I cannot control what goes on in my life and the world. I'm a victim, powerless. And if the moment begins, you're powerless. You will pay anything to get power from somebody else.

15:33 And there's always someone who's ready to charge.

15:35 Yeah, watch TV every 15 minutes. 15 seconds nowadays. Yeah.

15:41 So let me ask you this, Bruce. Is there any programming from your first seven years that seems to still show up every once in a while that you've become aware of and you might have adjusted in your life?

15:52 Not negative ones. Okay. Why? Because... I had very negative programs. I'll tell you very personally, my father and mother had a very dysfunctional relationship, okay? And I said, so what? I observed my father's behavior, which under age seven, what did I know was good or bad behavior? I downloaded his behavior. And then for 40 years, 40 years, I could not sustain a relationship. And the reason was once I would start thinking, and my father's behavior would be the autopilot, my relationships were gone. But I met my partner, Margaret, I think 32 years or so ago. And she, in her former career, was head of a workshop, a programming company, very much aware of programs. I was aware of programs, you know, from the mines and all that. So when

16:54 we started to get together, We had one argument, just once. And it was like two egos bouncing against each other. It was the worst argument ever, nothing. Directions, how to go someplace. I remember for about a week or two weeks after, my hands were, my nervous system was shaking of how that was traumatic. But we made an agreement and never, to have an argument. And we both knew about program, so it came to an option. If I came up with a program that was negative, most people, when they do that in a relationship, one comes up with a negative program and the partner observes and goes, who are you? Where did that come from? Well, you have to remember, if you're playing a program You're playing because you're not paying attention, so you don't know what

17:55 you just said, but your partner observed it, okay? And then, well, you did this, blah, blah, blah, argument, fight, 50% of relationships dissolve in divorce. Why? Because the person's negative programming overrides them at some point. So bottom line was this, Margaret and I, knowing about this, if I came up with a negative program, It wouldn't be an argument. It would be, Bruce, did you just hear what you said?

18:24 I go, what did I say? And then she's telling me, I go, oh, no, I didn't really mean that. And that was the opening to change a program. So in our relationship, I changed all the negative programs. Anytime they would come up and she had hers and we would change them. And so what was that? Removing the negative behaviors and retaining the positive behaviors. And the result is the honeymoon that I've been on for 32 years of waking up every day with, oh my God, I'm so happy, I'm so in love, I love my life, I love my partner. Heaven on earth for 32 years, not one argument ever after that.

19:15 Beautiful, beautiful. Now, is there any beliefs that you've had in your life that has affected your health or your body?

19:24 I'm dealing with it right now. I say, what was that? About two and a half years ago, I was having a pain in my ear, my side of my face. I went to an ear, nose, throat doctor, and I'll never forget it. He says, oh, let me look down your throat. And then he looked at me with this serious look close to my face, and he goes, Bruce, you have cancer in your tongue. I go, oh. And he's waiting for.

19:58 Oh, I got cancer.

20:01 I just said, oh, well, I knew this for a fact. There's no gene that causes cancer. There's not one gene that causes cancer. Cancer is 90% minimum due to lifestyle and consciousness.

20:17 Environment too, no?

20:18 What's that?

20:19 Environment as well, right?

20:20 Well, yeah. That's involving lifestyle, okay? How I manage myself, okay? So I realized, okay, I have a cancer. And people think cancer is a problem. I want to acknowledge it. Cancer is a symptom of a problem. This is why, where is the cancer? Lung, kidney, prostate, wherever. That is a, it's actually telling you there's an issue you are not dealing with. And the cancer affects that area where you're not dealing with something, okay? So I have a tongue cancer and my career is speaking. And all of a sudden I go, well, I can't. I lecture. I'm still working on rebuilding this tongue muscle. And I said, oh, my God, there's no more speaking. And then I realized for 20 years I've had a knowledge of the theory

21:24 of evolution that was challenging Darwinian theory. I call it the antidote to Darwinian theory. And the simple fact, if we get into it, is Darwinian theory is the cause of the upheaval of our civilization at this time. And I have this new scientific theory of evolution that completely challenges the whole Darwin thing. I mean, the whole idea is Darwin is based on competition. The new theory is cooperation as the drive of evolution. And I didn't write it.

22:04 I kept speaking and giving more and more lectures. About it or about other things? What's that?

22:09 About it or about other things?

22:10 About anything but the story.

22:12 Interesting.

22:14 And therefore, I say, so why is my speaking affecting? It says, because you are not writing what you've had in your mind for 20 years. So simple conclusion. Okay, I commit. I'm going to write this book. My scan from the med people before writing a book, malignant tumor. In the middle of writing my book, a scan said benign tumor. At the completion of my book, the last scan said no tumor.

22:53 Really? But it still affected your tongue?

22:55 Well, yeah, because for two and a half years, remember, tongue is muscle.

22:59 Of course.

23:00 And the tumor had wrapped around the nerve. which I couldn't move that muscle. Well, anybody who knows about muscle, you can build up muscle, but if you don't use the muscle, it atrophies. So I'm still working with what? Rebuilding the muscle for two and a half years. It was paralyzed. And so I'm in the process of, a lot of people when I tried to speak earlier said, oh, you must have had a stroke or something. Yeah. No, it was just my inability to maneuver my tongue and speech.

23:37 So I want to dig into this a little bit because it's such an important lesson for people to listen to. Is that you had, and I'll argue, I'll just say you had a download of this information.

23:48 Yes.

23:49 This information came through you and you said, for whatever reason, scared. I don't want to go down that road. I know what's going to happen when I come out there. They're going to attack me. I really don't want to deal with this.

24:00 Are you me or what?

24:02 Well, I've had similar worlds myself, my friend. I didn't hold onto it for 20 years, but I've had these conversations with myself and I'm like, oh God, but you've been given the gift. So you've been given that information and it's your job and your sole mission to to put this out. You agreed to it.

24:19 Well, yeah. And the idea was I wrote a book called The Biology of Belief.

24:24 And if I can't heal.

24:26 Myself, then the book is meaningless. Right. And all of a sudden, I'm under some pressure.

24:33 So there's a lot of levels to this.

24:35 Yeah.

24:36 So when people hold on to a dream. Or stifle a talent.

24:41 Yes.

24:42 So like, I really want to dance, but I'm an accountant. And there's nothing wrong with being an accountant if that is what you're supposed to do and what you find joy in. And that's when people, and that's when they're like, oh, or I'm holding on to something. I'm just not letting go of it or not processing it. This is where disease comes from.

24:59 A hundred percent. People think, oh, genes are responsible. A fact, less than 1% of all The health crisis on this planet, less than 1% is even connected to a gene. 90 plus percent of the health crisis is due to one thing, stress.

25:22 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

25:23 And the world is getting more and more stress every day.

25:26 Every day.

25:27 And the health crisis is going up more every day, no matter how much medicine, no matter how many hospitals, blah, blah, blah. The health crisis is getting worse. Why? Why? Because we brought into the medical system as, well, I'm not well. They're a doctor. They're still locked into an old belief about if something's going on below your neck, it must be something wrong with the mechanism. Yeah, the machine's wrong.

25:56 The machine's wrong. And so here's some medicine, a drug, a chemical. Put this into your system and it's just a machine. And the problem is this. 99% of illness is from here. And if you don't deal with this, then you're going to just struggle to try and keep fixing the machine when the problem was up here.

26:22 So then as well, to fix the machine as well, there's a belief as well, and I've realized this as well in my life, is that what you eat and how you eat is not only on a physical level, Of like, you know, the energy of the food, the chemicals of the food that help you and all that stuff. But belief of that. So even like, I know everybody watching has at one point or another go, I need to get in shape. I need to start eating right.

26:51 I had to do this myself with the wake-up call with my cancer.

26:54 So tell me.

26:55 Yeah. Okay. Number one. This is, people have to wake up. This is a tough one. The minimum lifespan of a human biologically... is 150 years. We get to 100, everybody thinks, oh, my God, you live to 100. I say, you're missing 50 years. I say, where's the problem? Almost all of it comes down to food. I go, why? Well, let me tell you first the negative side. When you burn fuel, let's say gas in the car, you get energy, but you get toxic waste product coming out the exhaust pipe.

27:35 Don't breathe the exhaust, it will kill you, okay? When you burn food, a toxic byproduct is called free radical. And free radical are charged ions, atoms.

27:50 With a charge.

27:52 And they shoot holes in the cells and they kill cells. The more food you digest, the more cells you kill. Now, basically, you're killing your body cells, the ones that are already functional, liver, muscle, skin, blah, blah, blah. Interesting fact. Here's a fact. Every second, three and one-half million cells die. Every second. Three and a half million just die. Three and a half million just die. Well, we have stem cells, which are embryonic cells with a new name, and they replace the cells that are dying.

28:37 But when you eat food, the proportion of cells that die, proportion, are the body cells. But you still hit a number of stem cells. Over time, you will diminish the population of stem cells. And that's where the problem comes in because You're still losing three and a half million cells. But if you don't have enough stem cells to replenish that loss, it's a downhill ride. That's the aging that comes in. Okay?

29:09 How do you keep the stem cells at a good level?

29:13 Take care of yourself.

29:15 Eat right. Take care of yourself.

29:16 Okay. Many things come in here. I'd like to tell you something that you're not going to find in a textbook. Okay? It's a short story. Chernobyl, the reactor blew up. And every year they put a robot with a camera, go through the reactor to say, what's going on? And year four, there was black fungus growing on the wall in the reactor.

29:50 How can anything live in the reactor? Well, that pushed some scientists to say, what the hell Is the fungus able to do, to survive in the reactor? Well, it turns out it was what made them black. I said, what was that? Pigment. I said, what's the name of the pigment? Melanin.

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30:23 I go, why is that relevant? It's the pigment in all of our skin, except for albinos, okay? All of us have melanin, okay? The degree of melanin is also due to where people came from to a certain start, like the equatorial zone. And melanin had two functions. Absorb the negative rays from the sun to keep us from burning ourselves, okay? And the new function, and this is it, folks.

30:55 In plants, there's something called a chloroplast. It's a protein granule that takes sunlight and converts it into energy and food. Melanin is the animal equivalent of chloroplast. It takes energy out of the field, converts the energy into biological energy, and provides our energy resource. I go, how much? Well, about 90% of the cell's need for energy comes from the environment. 10% from nutrition. And the point is what?

31:40 We're eating too damn much food that we should be on a subsistence diet. There are people that call themselves breatharians. They say they don't eat anything. They may not. And some of them go, He had crackers. I saw he ate some saltines. I go, he didn't supersize his meal, my friend.

32:01 We're not here because of the saltines, my friend.

32:03 No. But the point was what? That they have as much a healthy life as people that eat the full three meals a day.

32:12 Which is all corporate.

32:13 It's all corporate pushing. Yeah, that's why a hamburger is not enough. You need a double hamburger. With fries. With fries.

32:20 And a supersized Coke.

32:21 Oh, I guess I cook because of that sugar.

32:24 But Diet Coke is fine, right? Because that cancels out all the calories, obviously.

32:28 It's a sales gimmick. And here's the hard part. Eating meals is an addiction.

32:39 It is.

32:40 Meaning, okay, it's lunchtime. I'm hungry. Why?

32:43 It's lunchtime.

32:45 Am I really hungry? No, not necessarily, but it's 12 o'clock. It's time to eat.

32:50 So I want to tell you something I've been doing lately.

32:54 Yes.

32:55 And I'm in it right now. I did a six-week juice fast.

33:01 Yes.

33:01 And I felt better than I felt ever. I'm currently on day seven of another juice fast.

33:08 Yes.

33:09 And day one or day two is that detox time, your headache. Yes. And you start feeling, second day I was like.

33:15 It's like drug withdrawal. You're going cold turkey.

33:19 Right, and I was eating extremely well these last three months since the first time I did it. Because I changed my diet and became stronger and all that stuff. And I'm in the middle of it now. And I feel fantastic. I feel energetic. And I just have juice and coconut water and some veggie broth. And I'm good.

33:36 And that's my fast. What is happening? Can you explain to people? the power of fasting and what it does to the body. Because I agree with you, like after all the research I've done, we eat way too much.

33:50 Way too much.

33:50 And our ancestors did not have three meals a day. They ate once every four or five days if they were lucky, generally speaking, if they're hunter-gatherers.

33:58 They were the breatharians.

34:00 They were. But yet we, this is a thing, there was a myth thrown around like, oh, if you don't eat, you're going to lose muscle mass. And to a certain extent, You do lose a little muscle. But I always thought to myself, well, wait a minute. If you're a hunter-gatherer, you lose muscle. You can't hunt. And if you can't hunt or you can't grow food, you can't do anything.

34:18 One of the best exercises is not running but walking.

34:22 Yeah.

34:23 And a hunter-gatherer walks.

34:26 And if you walk uphill, it's even more powerful than running a mile.

34:29 Yeah. So, yeah, this is an important part. So, number one, as you just mentioned, You're healthier. Why? Using the digestion process takes a lot of energy from the body to digest all this. And then all the waste product adds to the misery of that. As a downhill run, you lose 50 years right away from living the way we are living. But number two, is the food that we're eating beneficial? And the answer is no, not now. Industrial farm food It's so short of nutrients. But it does what its intention was. What's that? I'm satisfied. I was hungry.

35:14 I put something in there. My stomach says, okay, we have stuff. We're good. I'm satisfied. I ate. Comes to digestion. It goes, there is nothing of value in this food.

35:27 Let's just get this out as fast as possible.

35:29 Get rid of it, yeah.

35:31 It's fascinating. It's like. Because now, yeah, I'm full, but our body never thought that we would be eating this unnatural food, this ultra-processed foods.

35:41 So the whole mission statement is to really look for organic, natural food, okay? Yeah. And you can be vegan. You can be vegetarian. You can be omnivore. It's the amount of the food that makes a big difference.

35:57 And the quality of the food that you eat.

35:59 Well, the quality. That's why I said try not to get the commercial stuff sold in the market.

36:06 Yeah, farmer's markets.

36:08 And there's so many other aspects to this about this food that's not helping us, but I feel satisfied. I ate that supersized meal. I'm so full. I've got to just sit here for a while. And I'm going, you are killing yourself. Now, you can't just say, oh, Bruce said we should eat virtually nothing. Tomorrow I'm going to eat virtually nothing. Don't do that. You can't do that.

36:33 It's a withdrawal from a drug.

36:37 When I eat, I eat probably my biggest meal will be lunch, which is not that big. And then I'll have a light dinner, but I have intermittent fasting, essentially. So I eat basically within a seven, eight-hour window. Six to eight-hour window. And that's it. And it seems to work for me. And my body reacts very well to it.

36:55 Everybody's body would, okay? Because the mechanism, you're overfeeding a system that says, I already make 90% of the energy, that whole thing. myth of, well, you have to eat this for your energy. I go, I don't have to eat that for energy. I'm taking it right out of the air. Okay?

37:15 And the sun.

37:16 Because, as you said, the hunter-gatherer doesn't eat every day, maybe days. I go, well, are they going to die because they didn't eat for three days in a row? I said, no. They can make energy. The body is in it. It's killing the body with food that is too much And it has no ability to nourish you. And so there's minerals, too, which is not in the soil anymore from repeating the same farming over and over and depleting the soil from elements that are functional for us.

37:54 So it's a filler. The food is a filler.

37:57 And it's getting worse. I mean, there's movements of regenerative farming and that kind of stuff coming up. And I think everyone's starting to wake up.

38:06 Not everyone, but it is a necessary part of our evolution at this moment is the wake-up call. And the wake-up call is very simple. Science has recognized that to sustain our civilization at this minute requires the resources of 1.6 planets. And they say, wait a minute. We need resources of 1.6. We have one planet. Where's the extra 0.6 resources that we're using coming from? And the answer is we're destroying the ecosystem under our feet. We're destroying the soil. We're pillaging the resources of the minerals under our feet. We're collapsing the web of life around us. And there's one big problem. And I say, where is it? We evolved from the web of life. If the web of life doesn't exist, we cannot exist. And so science has recognized

39:09 the demands of civilization on the resources is in excess of what the planet can provide. So NASA scientists have come up with an understanding to reveal, and I want to emphasize this, They have given us between 10 and 20 years before there is, and this is the emphasis, an irreversible collapse of civilization. I emphasize that because I'll be, oh, we'll just go back to the old way. I say, no, the old way was not sustainable either. That, oh, we'll just do what we used to. I go, no, we were not in harmony with each other. We were not in harmony with Mother Nature. It was death. We're moving out.

39:59 This is what we were talking about. People are waking up. Let's eat less. I go, eating less saves your life. Guess what? It saves the planet.

40:08 Well, there's a movement going on right now because of these GLP-1 drugs that are going around, which I'm not a fan of. But it has changed Americans specifically, their eating habits, fast food joints. are losing money because they're eating less. It's fascinating.

40:27 It's a health benefit.

40:28 It's a health benefit of a drug, but it's doing something. It is a reprogramming. It's a rough one, and there's a lot of issues with those. There's a lot of studies being done right now, and that's another episode.

40:40 But I would like to add this because sugar is like a cocaine.

40:47 It's a drug.

40:48 You can take it, and then it feels good, but then you need some more. Then you need some more, okay? So they are sweetening the food with high-fructose corn syrup.

41:00 Oh, the worst thing.

41:01 Let me tell you about this, and people don't understand. In experiments, they fed rats one group sugar, real sugar.

41:08 Sugar cane, yeah.

41:09 And the other group got the high-fructose corn syrup. And then they ran through a battery of tests of learning and memory. The high-fructose corn syrup rats failed miserably. They weren't able to hold the memory and their learning was impaired. And I go, guess what? The government is paying the coin growers to make more. Why? Because it's the cheapest form of sweetener. Yeah, but what else? It incapacitates the public.

41:42 And all of the products from Coca-Cola down to health food bars have high fructose corn syrup. And I tell them, That is a toxic element that will take away your consciousness, your ability to memorize, your ability to learn. And we are feeding Americans this. Europeans, they have sugar, cane sugar in their soda. I know.

42:07 When I was in Italy, I drank soda. I hadn't drank Coke in forever. And I just drank it. I was like, oh, this is delicious. I was like, I don't remember it tasting this good. Yeah. But I had it in Italy, but here it's just, ugh.

42:21 Yeah, but that was the plan. Why would the government fund this? Should we give us sweetener? No. To take away our consciousness, to make us less mentally fit. Why? Control. Control the population. Why?

42:41 Why?

42:42 Because they know it's going to collapse civilization, okay? They know that. And so how are you going to control people? Make them less intelligent. Put the clamp on them. Hold them down because this upheaval will challenge the entire way we are living because the way we are living is we're living beyond our means.

43:08 And now corporations are creating seedless... versions of fruits and vegetables, so we can't even collect seeds to grow it ourselves.

43:15 Absolutely. Manipulation. The major problem, you cannot plan agriculture if you don't know what the weather is going to be. The U.S. and Midwest call it the bread basket. We get the wheat from the Midwest. This year, Kansas, one of the biggest providers of wheat, There is no harvest at all this year. Why? With the bad weather from the spring to the summer, the plants didn't grow. So there's no harvest of wheat. Wheat prices have gone up 40% already. Well, everything from bread, pasta, cookies, anything with wheat, the price is going up. Is the salary going up? No.

44:08 Is the cost of living going up?

44:09 You bet.

44:10 What's the point? It's not sustainable. People can't afford living this way. So a little advice. In my new book, there's a section on nutrition, and it brings up something very interesting. It said before industrial farming took over, the staple diet of people from Nepal, India, China, Japan, South America, was rice and beans. Interesting. Those two foods together offer the complete amount of different amino acids for a human to build their body. All the amino acids to build the proteins come from two foods, rice and beans. And it's interesting because at this moment, that's still the cheapest food in the market.

45:10 It is.

45:11 And the point about it is we're facing an upheaval.

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45:24 Matter of fact, with diesel prices going up and the industry putting us dependent on diesels when we used to have The railroad, which would deliver everything, now is diesel trucks. Where I live in California, it's $ 8. 75 a gallon for diesel. And the point about it is, well, even at the high price, there's a shortage of diesel. October 1st coming is supposed to be a trucker's strike. I go, you don't realize how this will incapacitate the entire country. Why?

46:07 How are you going to get food to the supermarket? It has to come by the truck. And what happens when there's like a hurricane or something, disaster coming, the food stores, two hours, the shelves are empty.

46:23 Now what?

46:25 This is the problem. We're facing that kind of big dramatic thing coming, whether it's a tractor strike or the fact is, We're running out of food that people can't afford. In fact, more and more people are now charging the food at the supermarket because they don't have the cash. What does that mean? Living beyond your ability. It's always going to hit the fan. At some point, you still got to pay for all this stuff. So I'm coming down to what was the point here? We're eating too much.

47:00 The food prices are going up faster than you can afford them. And the resolution is two things. Eat less. And the cheapest food in the market are rice and beans. And if we went back to that, and I want to add this for the people. Generally, you have a first aid kit in your house. I don't want to use my first aid kit. But if there's an emergency, I damn well have one. I'm saying that the food in your pantry is like a first aid kit. As long as there's food in the market, I have no problem.

47:38 But the moment there is no food in the market, where are you going to find food? And so my suggestion, people, please listen. Put away food for at least two months. Dry food, canned food, food that you can add some water to.

47:56 Easily cook.

47:57 Easily prepare. To sustain yourself. Why? We are facing an inevitable crash. We're beyond the ability of the planet to sustain us. This is not a suggestion. This is a fact. And I say, so when there's no food in the market, what are you going to do? And the answer is, you better have something put away. And while the prices are going up, hey, this is a great time to buy some rice and beans. Why? That is the basic staple to live on. around the world. That was the basic staple. And I'm just saying, worrying, we are facing an evolutionary upheaval at this minute.

48:42 Why?

48:44 Not sustainable. Okay. And this is why I'm saying, if you know this is the future, that knowledge should empower you to say, I have to take care of myself because the future is is the government's not going to come and help you.

49:04 And it's, I think, a message that we're trying to put out there is that you have the power within yourself to not only take control of your own life, but to take control of your own mind, to take control of your own experience, where you've been programmed to believe that you... are lesser than that you can't connect to God you need to have a middle man to do it you know that you aren't you're born.

49:27 With original sin 10%.

49:29 And I just need 10% of everything you make for the rest of your life you know you're born with a sin and you need me to clean it from you it's insane.

49:38 It's a We are prisoners of a belief system.

49:42 I call it a story, a framework story that we tell ourselves.

49:46 Yeah, but somebody told you that story.

49:48 Exactly.

49:49 People that knew that they can control you.

49:53 Why?

49:53 Control has always been who's dominant. There's an evolution of control. The first control was who's the biggest badass in the community, the one with the biggest club. If he says do it, You do it, okay? Big bad guy. Then evolved the guy who owned the resources. Because even the big bad guy had to have those resources. Then the big bad guy became the soldier for the baron who had the resources, okay?

50:26 So we went from bad guy, resource provider, and then the last level was knowledge is power.

50:35 Hmm.

50:36 And that's when the church owned the knowledge. We get it direct from God. You don't get it. We have it. You can buy it from us. And scare people. You're going to go to hell. Where did hell come from? Oh, it's down there in the fire. It was from mythology, from the Greeks. The Greek myth of a lake on fire was what prompted the idea of hell.

51:06 Wasn't it– so Jesus also talked about the lake of– God, what's the lake that he talked about where there were sacrifices in Jerusalem and they were throwing kids into it? Hena. Oh. Hena. Lake Hena or something like that. And that's– he's like, if you guys don't behave yourselves, you're going to end up there. And they took that. and created the hell concept, but then wasn't it in the 1300s when Dante showed up?

51:30 Yeah, well, Dante made a visual.

51:32 Oh, he was great, wasn't he? He did him a great marketing.

51:34 Oh, now I see what.

51:36 You're talking about. There was no devil before Dante. There was no levels of hell. There were no demons. That was not a thing, because that's just good storytelling.

51:44 And we bought it. And once you buy it, then fear. And then once you have fear, then you have... Yeah, because fear, you give up your power to be safe.

51:54 So, Bruce, I think also that now... People, it seems like, and it's a story as old as time, where they create a tremendous amount of fear to control people. And then if they create enough of fear and everything gets a little too crazy, they go, we're going to need to do this. We're going to have to take away a couple more freedoms from you, but you'll be safe.

52:19 And you'll take a little bit, we'll control your food, but you'll be safe. And you just trust us, you'll be safe. That's the oldest trick. And now it seems to be happening not only in this country in many ways, but around the world and in different countries in Europe and Asia and everything.

52:34 Whether you want to say it was the church in hell or the medical community, which is the pharmaceutical company, giving that fear and controlling through that fear, that's a history story, as you just said. Make somebody afraid. Make them a victim, and then they will pay or give up whatever is necessary for them to feel safe. And as we're facing upheaval, there's going to be more control to keep this.

53:08 Thing from exploding. You feel it. You feel it coming in. I mean, from the food prices. You're right. At a certain point, this has got to pop. This bubble has to pop. You can't just keep spending 40 trillion in the hole. It might as well be 40 trillion. It doesn't matter.

53:31 I love it because Musk is a trillionaire. I go, that sounds like a lot. I say, a trillionaire has more money than 1,000 billionaires. Right. 1,000 billionaires worth of money in the hands of one person.

53:48 That's insane.

53:49 And the problem about all of this is there's a certain amount of resources on the planet. This is like NASA research. Imagine a pie chart. I say 100% resources on the planet. Then I say less than 1% of the population has more than half of all those resources. So take half the planet, take it out. Then what?

54:13 Eight billion people are competing in a struggle to get a piece of the half that is left over. We manufactured our own struggle. It didn't exist. And I have to say this as well. The Darwinian theory, and people, you didn't have to go to school. My father never went to school, but He was certainly aware of the concept dog eat dog, survival of the fittest, compete, all that, which is the theory, is permeated our civilization with a belief that I must compete to get a piece of a struggle. I go, well, first of all, we manifested the struggle. Nature was never a struggle. Nature is a garden.

55:09 I said, what's a garden? a community of insects, animals, and plants living in harmony. A garden is a beautiful place of harmony. And I go, what's the relevance about this? And I go, well, the only organism in the garden that is not participating in the harmony of the garden are human beings. We're destroying the garden under our feet, and I mentioned earlier, if the garden goes down, we can't be here either. But we have some belief, and it started with the Bible. Oh yeah, God, Genesis, made a planet, put some water on it, you know, light, blah, blah, blah.

55:53 Yeah, we're like 5,000 years old.

55:56 And then added the humans as like an option to nature. So the concept of, oh, we're separate from nature. And the idea, we have dominion over nature. I go, How's that working out? We're destroying the world that we live in because of belief we can do what we want. It's like, we're destroying, we're the only organism not in harmony with a garden. And a garden, by definition, is not a battleground. It's the height of cooperation. The only organism not cooperating are humans who have been programmed to be competitive.

56:40 I love that thesis. I love that. You're absolutely right. If you look in nature, and it's regardless if you're an atheist or you're a full believer in everything we talk about on the show, you have to admit that there is a beautiful design to this, not only this planet, this universe. There is a cyclical situation with everything. And it just seems, I love that I've never thought about it this way, but the garden, as your example, is a perfectly cooperative. And if it was the bee trying to compete with the wasp or trying to compete with the, it wouldn't work. It has to, everyone does their job.

57:23 Everyone works together and everything just flourishes. It's only when one thing goes a little too hard that everything gets thrown out of whack.

57:31 And then nature tries to compensate by eliminating that one thing from the carbon.

57:36 So I'm from Florida, and they introduced, I think just Floridians introduced the python, pet pythons into the Everglades. And now they are run amok. And now they are now the apex predator. That ecosystem had never was designed for that being to be in there. So now the alligators are being eaten by the python. And it's a big problem.

58:03 That's a perfect example of something being thrown out of harmony because someone is competing for everything and it's not supposed to be there.

58:09 Absolutely. And we have this problem. I remember there were these African killer bees.

58:15 Yes.

58:16 And their design was kill the other bees. And it was just like Fauci thing in a lab. They were growing some killer bees or COVID in another lab. But a couple of bees got out. And all of a sudden, oops, they started mating. And then coming from the far south, they started to increase and increase. Why? There was no competitor in those environments for those bees. And they were killing what? The honeybees. And we have that problem today with roundup. And I go, why is this a problem?

58:52 The answer is you will not have agriculture if you don't have honeybees. They pollinate the plant. And therefore, we're facing this crisis of we can do what we want. We can make what we want.

59:07 I'll quote the great Jeff Goldblum. from Jurassic Park. Just because you can do something, and there's a loose quote, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something or even think, should I do this? You never thought about it. You just did it.

59:23 That's having dominion over nature.

59:26 In Jurassic Park, it didn't work out. It didn't work out well for everybody.

59:31 Well, we're in that situation now, and this is the whole issue is civilizations have come and gone. There was a Roman civilization, and it disappeared.

59:40 For a thousand years.

59:41 And then guess what? What people have to recognize is civilization disappears. The people don't die. The people change the way they are living and move into another civilization.

59:54 Like the Mayans.

59:55 Yeah, everywhere. History has repeated this. As Buckminster Fuller, the futurist, said, don't go in and fight the existing system. Step outside, build a better system, and people will follow you.

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1:00:23 Well, This is the process we're in right now. And again, I'll reiterate, to me, thank you for letting me be on the program. Why? Because you, with the offering that you're providing the public with about health and life and all those characters, are a fundamental way of what? Building a new, sustainable civilization. You were playing it. a godly important role, and I'm happy to offer what I can.

1:00:54 Well, I appreciate that, Bruce. Thank you for those kind words. Now, I wanted to switch the subject for a second. I wanted to see what you thought about this. Do you believe that we've lived before, that we have a soul that reincarnates? Yes, 100%.

1:01:06 I go, why? Well, I'll admit this. For 40 years as a scientist, um, I had no belief in spirituality. Oh, it was genes and chromosomes and proteins, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then when I was teaching immunology, a very important fact came. I said, what? We cannot exchange organs with each other. I cannot put my kidney into your body.

1:01:34 Why?

1:01:35 Your immune system, if I do the transplant, your immune system says, not self. And you can't put your organ into anybody else's body, their immune system, not self. Well, the immune system sees physical things, viruses, bacteria, parasites. And then it hit me. I said, wait a minute. If I put my organ into your body, and it's interesting because red blood cells are an exception. you can transplant red blood cells as long as you get the blood type O, A, A, B. Okay. But the other cells have an identity that the immune system doesn't see and it has to be physical. So I started looking at it and I go, oh my God, on the surface of our cells, with the exception of red blood cells, there are protein receptors. Okay. Well, on the skin of

1:02:32 a cell. I said, well, We're a cell enlarged. Look, eyes, ears, nose, taste, touch, all this. Our receptors are built into the skin. What is a receptor? Receiver of what? Environmental information. This is how an organism can adapt to an environment because we can experience it and then adjust our biology, okay? So I go, no two people are the same. And then I found on the surface of our cells, there are a set of protein receptors, receivers, the equivalent of like antennas, okay?

1:03:15 And there are a set of them. The name was misnamed, but now it's the appropriate name. They're called self-receptors. What does that mean? It's identity. I go, why? No two people, 8 billion humans, Those two people in the entire planet have the same set of these antennas. If I take a cell and remove these antennas, there's no identity. Let's say I have a liver cell, Bruce's liver cell. I remove my cell receptors. Now it's just liver cell. I can transplant that into any human. We all have liver cells.

1:03:56 I remove identity. In my show, I say, well, wait. I take Margaret's liver cells, and she has her self-receptors. I take my liver cell, I remove my self-receptors. Now, it has no identity. Then I say, but if I take Margaret's self-receptors and transplant them onto my cell, I can't put my cell back in my body because it's Margaret.

1:04:22 But she can have my cell, okay? All of a sudden, the pieces started falling. I said, oh, my God. The receptors are receivers. They receive an energy field. Definition of field in physics. Invisible moving forces that influence the physical world. Ready? Spirit. Invisible moving forces that influence the physical world. Quantum physics has recognized there's an energy field that we download through our receptors. No two people in the whole world are downloading the same energy field. Imagine like a radio, FM radio, and as you turn the dial, here's a station, then you move it, and here's another station, and here's another.

1:05:16 Imagine there's a broadband of human biology, human energy, okay? Each of us is downloading a station. No other person in the world is downloading. It's my identity. It's picked up by my self-receptors. Only I am downloading this. So I'm going, oh wow. My identity is not built in. My identity is downloading into my biology. Then comes the analogy.

1:05:48 Imagine the body is a TV set and my Self-receptors are antennas downloading a program, the Bruce Show. Hey, folks, here it is. You're watching the Bruce Show on this television. I go, so what? If the television breaks, we say it's dead. They go, absolutely, it's not working. Dead. If the body dies, it's dead. It's not working. If the television dies and we call it dead, the question is, is the broadcast still there? Yes, of course. Broadcast is not part of the TV. It's downloaded. So if the body dies, the broadcast being picked up by your self-receptors, it's still here. It's here. It never went away. It's always here. Until what? An embryo in the future shows up with the same set of self-receptors you have right now.

1:06:47 You're back in a new TV. And the point about that is called reincarnation. This is a reality of human life. We are immortal spirit fields, the broadcast. And there's a TV with the receptors that can download your back into the physical realm. And if you die, broadcast is still there until it happens again. So have we been here before? Yeah, we've all been here before. And we'll be here again.

1:07:25 And then all of a sudden, then it asks this question about, well, does it make a difference if the TV is male or female? I go, no. You're the broadcast. You are not the TV. So I say, you're still the broadcast. I say, so male or female? Not relevant. Oh, wait. Does it make a difference if the TV is white, brown, black, red, yellow?

1:07:47 I go, no. That's the TV. you are the broadcast. Does it make a difference if the TV is programmed to be Christian, Muslim, or Jewish? I said, no, that's the program. You are the broadcast. Does it make a difference if it's American or Iranian? I said, no, those are the TVs. We all come from the same broadcast.

1:08:19 And I said, Everything else is separation. Every way you can separate gender, religion, race, nationality. I said, what has that done? It's taken the organism of the human being, which is part of a family of 8 billion human beings. You're looking at the TV. You're ignoring the broadcast. Why? We all came from the same broadcast. We all came from the same source. The separation is the illusion and disempowerment.

1:08:56 Because you can't have people. Well, it's the old story of the Tower of Babel. It's similar because if we all spoke the same language, we could cooperate a lot better.

1:09:06 That was the whole idea. Why? Okay, here's the point. My life is coming from my broadcast, okay? My broadcast is immortal. I cannot die because I'm the broadcast, but I play through this body. I say, so what's the function of this body? And they go, it's a manifestation mechanism. I asked before, what do you want from your life?

1:09:36 And you say, well, I would like this, I would like that. I go, that's just a thought. Without a body, there's no manifestation.

1:09:44 You can't.

1:09:45 So then I started preaching again. I said, oh, my God. We came here to take these bodies and use them to what? Manifest our wishes and our desires. And then I thought about it. I said, what is heaven? Well, you have a different definition. I have a different. Everybody has their own vision of what heaven's about. I say, yeah, but when you come into a body, you can manifest it.

1:10:16 But you're not the body, you're a manifestor, okay? Let me give another word, creator. You are creating your life experiences, okay? And all of a sudden I say, oh, biggest story that we got screwed. Well, if you follow our rules, religion, and you follow them, when you die, you can go to heaven. I said, what's heaven? Oh, that's where you create.

1:10:47 I said, no. You were born here. This is where you create. When you die, you leave with the memory. But you don't have the mechanism. So the whole idea is, well, I'm waiting until I die. I go, well, you're wasting the entire process because earth is heaven. Earth is the site of manifestation. And that If you live in harmony, there is a harmony, then you have heaven on earth.

1:11:20 I'll be honest. I've been with my partner Margaret 32 years. I have lived and do, right at this minute, have a life of heaven on earth. I have no stress from the world. Why? I don't fix it. I take care of my own backyard. That's the old hippie thing. Before you change the world, take care of your own backyard. Yeah.

1:11:43 Because you're so concerned about what Iranians are doing and Ukrainians and all that, and your life is falling apart in your house.

1:11:52 And you're worried about things across the world. Yeah.

1:11:55 And it's funny because I don't know how many years ago, not that long ago really, I came across something called the serenity prayer. You must have heard of it. The serenity prayer is there are things you can do something about and the things you cannot do something about. And the prayer says, God grant me the power to distinguish the ones I can do something about from the ones I can't. And then do what? Work on the ones you can do something about. Let go of the ones you cannot do something about. Why? If I put my energy into helping the Ukrainians at this point, I'm losing my life. Why? Energy is life. And the more energy you give away that doesn't affect your own life is lost life. What you want is the energy to maintain

1:12:52 yourself in the environment with safety and all that, okay? And the idea is we're giving problems on the news that get our consciousness like, but these problems you can't do anything about. But you have now invested your energy and now you're taking it away from what? Your own life. So the old hippie said, I'm taking care of my backyard and I'll do what I can if I have some influence. But if I have no influence, I am not using my consciousness, my body energy, my spirit to get involved where I have no influence. ability to influence, okay?

1:13:43 And if you do that, you recover an amazing amount of life. And I love it because you mentioned recovering the energy when you went on the juice fast. You were recovering energy from what? Not digesting all that other stuff you ate. You recovered your own energy. Well, there are many ways to get your energy back because energy is life. And if you give away your energy, you are unknowingly giving away your life.

1:14:14 And that's why they always say you have to be strong yourself before you help. Like with an airplane, you must put oxygen on first.

1:14:19 I love that because that's a great one. Put your energy on first before you help anybody else. Why? If you can't take care of yourself, how the hell are you going to be helpful to somebody else? If you can't breathe, how can you help someone else breathe? I love that because I use that in my lecture. Why?

1:14:36 Because it's the true story. You have to take care of your health if you want to be a participant in the game.

1:14:42 When the body passes, when that signal, what happens to the signal the moment our body?

1:14:51 There's a disconnect from that receptor. And as a result, there's no signal coming in. Then it's a breakdown of the machine because it's an automatic machine with a subconscious program, but it will break down automatically. without having the programmer in the machine at that point. And then, you know, we're off on it.

1:15:12 Here's a bit.

1:15:14 Quantum physics, all we have is quantum physics. That's that special weird physics. I remember going for my PhD, I had to take a physics course, and I was optioned to take quantum physics or take the conventional Newtonian physics and sort of like, I want to be a biologist. What the hell do I care? I'm going to take the easy physics. Quantum physics was weird, okay?

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1:15:49 Quantum physics is weird for people because if I say this, it sounds like, well, that's weird, and I go, it's the absolute scientific reality of the world we live in. Quantum physics is the most valid of all the sciences on planet Earth. And I go, what is it? All of us grew up with the idea of a Newtonian physics where the universe has two realms, a physical material realm and an invisible energy realm. And in Newtonian physics, if something is made out of matter, it can only be affected by matter. If something is made out of energy, it can only be affected by energy, but matter and energy don't communicate. Well, hey, medicine. There's a thing called mind and spirituality. Well, those are energy fields. Medicine has

1:16:41 never included or put in mind and spirit as part of a medical aspect of a human life. When I was in A professor in medical school, you never mentioned the word spirit or consciousness. It wasn't relevant to the physical human body. And the fact is, now quantum physics comes in in 1927. I said, but what was the relevance? Well, they were taking the atom apart, okay? First of all, it was like this giant sand grain. And then in 1895, We got the image most people have been programmed with, a nucleus with protons and neutrons and satellites of electrons running around the outside. So we got that model called the Bohr atom. But they took that apart, and they found there was a smaller thing, a crack, a crack.

1:17:39 And then they took those apart. When they got to the bottom, it wasn't physical. The basis of an atom is an energy vortex, like a nano tornado. It's energy. Well, an atom is made out of energy. I go, yeah, everything is made out of energy, whether it looks like matter or it's invisible. So what I'm bringing us up is there's a quote profoundly important. And that quote is from Albert Einstein. The field, which is the invisible energy.

1:18:15 We're in the field right now. We're in your studio, but oh, the broadcast waves from TV and radio and cell phones. We're in an aquarium of energy, a field. The quote, the field is the sole governing agency of matter. The invisible field shapes our experience in the material world, okay? Okay. Now, the first thing people will say, well, wait, Bruce, if energy is invisible, how the hell can I see you?

1:18:49 And then I give them the answer, and they always giggle, and I go, it's the answer. I say, what is it? You can only see me when the lights are on. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. No, no, no, you see, a light has photon particles, right? And the light source sends photons, and whenever it hits an energy field like my body, the photons are deflected back. So the light's hitting me, hits my body, but the light bounces back into the eye of the receiver. What's the point?

1:19:25 Underneath a veneer of photons, the body's invisible. I go, yeah. The new scans, CAT scan, MRI scan, PET scan, They don't read matter. They read energy. I said, so what? I said, look at a cash can. There are the bones. There are the muscles. There are the organs. I said, you're looking at energy fields. That device doesn't read matter.

1:19:50 So you can see every part of the human body is an energy field. Back to the quote. The field is the sole governing agency of matter.

1:20:01 Aha!

1:20:02 And then this part comes in, and then it's like, I got it. I said, what is it? The brain energizes in consciousness, which is what? An energy field. I can read your consciousness, wires on your head, electroencephalograph, EEG. Well, that led us to believe my thoughts are in my head, okay? A newer device called MEG, magnetoencephalograph, reads brain function. Yeah, but I said, what? The probe is out here. I said, what does that mean? My thoughts are not in my head.

1:20:43 I'm broadcasting my thoughts. That's what energy feels. The energy field is a soul-governing agency of master. Our thoughts are manifesting all of this. It's from our thought. And my thoughts manifest my version. Your thoughts manifest your version.

1:21:04 So then what happens when two come into one? Like I interact with you. How does that work?

1:21:10 That is such a perfect response for this reason because I have a perfect answer. And the answer is this. My thought is an energy field. There's an amplitude, a power to my thought. My thought affects my field. It does not affect your field. But if we share the same thought, then we add up. The amplitude of my thought, the amplitude of your thought. And if a thousand people are sharing the same thought, then there's a thousand times the amplitude of that energy field. Or a million times.

1:21:43 I go, then what? The power of that creative field of the sources that we commonly agree to, okay, become so powerful, they manifest the reality that we're experiencing. A civilization... is based on the thoughts that hold that civilization together. When the thoughts of the people change, the new thoughts generate a new civilization.

1:22:12 And that's what's kind of happening now with this awakening.

1:22:14 Awakening says, yeah, the way we're living, that thought, I can do what I want. It's not going to work, so we need a new thought. And the more of us that come together, the greater the amplitude of that field in shaping the world. Now, just as a side light, because it's fun, I'm broadcasting my thought. I say, yeah, but I'm receiving a field. Well, the thought and the field are on the same vibrational frequency. So what? My life experiences go back and alter my source. It's called karma.

1:22:57 You came in with a frequency, but your life, as a result of you manifesting your frequencies, is altering your source frequency. You've changed who you are by living this life. If you have a negative life, you've made a negative vibration in that field.

1:23:17 But how about if you come back into this life in a positive scenario, but you have bad things happen to you or something along those lines?

1:23:23 That's why when we come back, I don't think there's a chance. I think we end up saying I need to balance what I did in the past by this new version. And if you understand it and manifest it, you can cancel the karma, especially the negative karma. Then what? Then your life is based on what? Harmony and beauty.

1:23:46 But if you come in with a crooked karma, your life is not harmony at all. And so all of a sudden it says, wow, we came here to manifest heaven on earth. If we do it in a negative way, we've altered who we are as a source. And when we come back the next time, you're given an opportunity to compensate for the previous programming and enhance yourself. And when you get back into the beautiful energy of the spirit, then you're back in harmony. And when you're back in harmony, then the idea that you came here to manifest heaven, you have it.

1:24:30 What gives you the most hope about our future as a species?

1:24:35 Well, there's a personal level. My life was not in harmony. My life was conventional, working hard, struggling, trying to make it, and then understanding the knowledge, power. And this is very important. People, this is so important. You can get smart. You can download, oh yeah, that's how it works. Yeah, I heard Bruce talk about this. Yeah, that makes great sense. I go, that's in your conscious mind. But the conscious mind only working 5% of the day is not your life. Your life is a program. So here's an important point. You can educate that conscious mind, be super, super smart. But if you don't use that knowledge in the day-to-day life experiences coming from the programs. That knowledge in your head,

1:25:35 100% useless. This is one question I don't think we ever answered. Come back to it. How come I have great wishes to be like Bruce said? I could have heaven on earth. I could have great harmony. I have this in my head. My life doesn't look like this. I go, because of what I just said. The wishes. 5%. If you don't change the program, I don't care how much your wishes are, you cannot manifest your wishes because your programming is what's manifesting your life. You have to change your thought. You have to change your consciousness to accommodate a new belief system. If you just keep it in your head, and I gave you a test, and you say, oh yeah, I can get 100% If you say all this, there's 100% of what he said. And

1:26:27 how much of it is in your life? Well, not really. I go, well, then guess what? All that knowledge is useless. You must apply it. You heard about juice fasting before you did juice fasting. You studied it. You said, this is a good idea. Good. I don't care how much you study it, it didn't change your life until what?

1:26:52 You did the juice fast.

1:26:54 Same thing with everything.

1:26:56 This is the whole idea. Yeah, let's educate people. I go, well, you can educate them. There's an old saying, you can take a horse for water, but you can't make it drink. I can educate you with this great knowledge, but if you don't use it, it's not relevant to anybody, including yourself, of course.

1:27:14 So is there anything in our future that, scares you.

1:27:19 It scares me?

1:27:20 It scares you about what humanity is going to, where it can go, the option.

1:27:25 It's an option to wake up. Okay? It's an option to take this knowledge and make your life out of it. I call it an option because it's not required. And if people don't change, the writing on the wall is the end. It's coming. And it's not that far into the future. So Is there a negative side? Yeah, the potential is negative. But the positive side is, hey, people are waking up. Now if I can get them not just to wake up but use the knowledge they're waking up to, the new world, I know it exists. Why?

1:28:03 I live in that world. My life is not the way it was for the first 40 years of my life. I love my life. I wake up every day. I don't know what's going to happen. But I also know I'm still mastering my response and how I'm going to respond to this thing. And I wish people would understand that because people, as a group, want the same thing.

1:28:32 Absolutely. The more I travel around the world, I know you've traveled around the world a thousand times already at this point in your career. I just kind of... of came to a realization. It's like everybody, no matter where they are, they want the same thing. They want to be loved. They want safety for their family. They want to follow their dreams. Everyone has the same core values.

1:28:54 Right.

1:28:55 Safety, a roof over their head.

1:28:57 A job.

1:28:58 A job, a purpose, food in their belly, love from somebody else, love from their family.

1:29:04 Harmony in the environment.

1:29:04 Everybody wants it. When you find a group of people who don't have that, there's a program in there.

1:29:10 Oh, yes.

1:29:10 That's a really bad or negative program. Like, you don't believe what I believe, I must kill you. As opposed to, that's one program. Or, you don't believe what I don't believe, let us talk about it. I'd love to hear your point of view. And maybe, just maybe, I might... find something interesting there, or maybe I could just live and let live.

1:29:27 Yeah. It's interesting because we talk about polar experiences, the opposites, okay? What people have to recognize, although things appear to be opposites, they're on the same wavelength, so to speak, the same scale, just one end versus the other end. Very interesting point. The Arab Spring started in Tunisia when a man who was so oppressed by the government to do his business with a food cart burned himself alive in front of the parliament. He said, I can't live here and burned himself.

1:30:04 They got rid of the dictator. Then they had a problem. They had a parliament. The parliament said, what can we replace the dictator with? We need to make a constitution. And for a year, it was polar versus polar in that parliament. Argument, argument, argument, argument. Nobody got anywhere. The next year, women got voted into the parliament for the first time. Sure.

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1:30:44 And a profound difference happened with women. They said, look, you guys have been spending your time fighting each other as polars, this belief, that belief. They said, why don't we start in the middle where both sides believe the same thing rather than starting with both sides don't believe. What do you believe about education? Yeah, both sides, we should have education. What about health care? Yeah, both sides, we should have health care. You know, putting all that together They created a constitution based on the harmony that was the best, is the best constitution of any country in the entire world. It was such a great constitution, they got a Nobel Prize for this. I said, what was the difference? Get out of the polarity. Come to

1:31:40 the mid-ground. The mid-ground allows me to see your side, and to see your side at the same time. And that way I can pick from both sides. Right now, polarized. And the idea is, well, then my side is against your side, and they're not going to come to an agreement until we kill each other over which side, when it was women who bring harmony in. Men bring the polarity.

1:32:12 And women bring the harmony.

1:32:13 Is it because women are more cooperative by nature, nurturing by nature, than men? Men are more aggressive.

1:32:20 If we had the time, I would love to show you. The difference, there are two kinds of bonds, chemical bonds that make up this universe. One is called a polar bond. The other is called a non-polar bond. A polar bond is like an arrow, positive on one side, negative on the other side. A nonpolar bond is like a benzene ring, like a ring. I say, why? Because the charge is running around the ring. There's no one side or the other side. It's a harmony, balance, okay? Fats are nonpolar.

1:32:59 Protein is polar. I go, before there were sexes, both things were required for a cell, right? The nonpolar was the digestive system and the metabolism and reproduction. The polar was the skeleton, the support, and the protection. When differentiation occurred, the males acquire the job of the polarity, the muscle, which has a positive and negative muscles, the arrow, okay? Okay?

1:33:37 So when a bunch of men come together, they line up the arrows, positive, negative, positive, negative, positive, negative. When women come together, they form that benzene ring, a circle of harmony. And men, their original job was what? Protection and support of the female, which allowed her to do the reproduction and the vegetation. The women were the goddesses of plants. The men were the powerful forces. Well, balance is when they come together. Imbalance is where we are right now. The men polarizing, the women have been put off to the side. And the balance has to, the women have to come back in just like in Tunisia and temper the men's polarity and return them to what is the job of a male Support of what? The female. Why?

1:34:41 Where do you think vegetation is coming from? The plants. It's female. Reproduction of female. So physically support him and protect him. That is the mission. But the mission is men win, women, who are they? Yeah. And that's like, well, that's completely out of balance.

1:35:02 It's been like that forever.

1:35:04 Not forever, because there was a matriarchal period where the women were in charge.

1:35:09 When was this?

1:35:10 Oh, back to ancient Greece, just before ancient Greece.

1:35:14 I mean, if you look at the Spartans, the Spartans were the male, but the women were renowned with their power.

1:35:21 Yeah. They were the ones that gave the omens of future, the reading of what was going on.

1:35:28 Oh, the oracle.

1:35:29 The Oracle, right? Interesting. The U.S. evolved from the Age of Enlightenment. What was that? 1700s. I said, go to Europe. It was a caste system, upper class, lower class. The lower class were slaves without the chains. Meaning, if you want to survive, you have to work for the baron, the upper class guy.

1:35:57 The king, the queen, right.

1:35:58 It hasn't worked for them, okay? And the Age of Enlightenment spoke of a utopian world where you can become whatever you want to be, not based on your birth as lower class, upper class. You can do what you want. John Locke in England was one of the philosophers, and this guy Rousseau, Jean Rousseau in France. And Rousseau wrote about the utopian world. where you can become what you want to be. Harmony, the garden. Radical, radical. Where did he get his idea? He studied American Indians, the Native Americans.

1:36:40 He said, look, they all live in harmony. The women and the men were in harmony. When we created the U.S. government, founding fathers, Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were predicated on the Native American government that was here when the Europeans fled the slavery of Europe to the freedom of coming to North America and be what they wanted to be. They even wore the buckskin of the Indians. They lived like the Native Americans. Why? Harmony. Okay?

1:37:20 And so the beautiful part about that is women had a very important role. They had a house, a Congress. The House of Representatives, the equivalent, were representatives from the different tribes. The Senate, the highest house, the one that makes the decision, war and peace, was called the Council of Grandmothers. It was only women who were in the Senate.

1:37:48 But when the Europeans came and copied, they couldn't have that. It wasn't in their world that women could be involved. So they just put more men in the other house, and both houses now were filled with men fighting each other. But the Native Americans, the women, and something else. It was called the Children's Fire. And what that was was here in the background were all the people in the government of the Native Americans. But in the front of them was a fire where the children sat. And the whole point of it was that the government in the back was to see the future of the child. to plan seven generations ahead of what? Supporting the children and that children's fire made sure that harmony prevailed for the children.

1:38:46 We don't have anything like that. We have the fight guys in the back fighting over how much money and who's got the power and all that BS. And we lost why the Europeans even came to North America.

1:39:02 Do you believe that this... I think it's a sickness of greed and more, and I need to accumulate more and more and more. Because at a certain point, you know, Bruce, if you make a certain amount of money, you're done. You can live a comfortable life. And if you make a little bit more, maybe your generations, if you're smart with your money, generations behind you will be fine. But Then there's these people who are just obsessed with how much money they're making.

1:39:32 Money is power. Money is tangible energy. It's physical. If I have money, I can buy it. I can get it.

1:39:41 I can control it.

1:39:42 I can control it. And that's Darwinian. The theory says power. I say, well, what in our world is power? Money. That drives the 1% to get as much money as they can get.

1:39:56 I go.

1:39:57 How many trillion dollars do you need? And the idea was according to the theory, there's no limit. The theory is make as much as you can. And here's the problem, my friends. There is no morality in Darwinian theory. What do I mean? Whatever it takes to win, I don't care how you do it. You mean a thousand people will suffer if I do this, but I win?

1:40:23 Whatever.

1:40:25 Those thousands are not fit. They're the less fit.

1:40:28 There's a story that has to be told about those thousands.

1:40:31 Yeah, but survival of the fittest. I'm the fittest. Why? I have the money. I don't care about them. They're not fit.

1:40:38 But Bruce, don't you believe that inherently humanity comes in with an empathy?

1:40:43 A hundred percent.

1:40:45 But that's been blocked out.

1:40:46 Yeah, but that's programming. The child is born in love. The child doesn't have any idea other than harmony. I showed a video, it was really interesting. It's an infant, an infant-infant. And there's this little bit of a puppet show, more or less. And it has a circle rolling to go up a hill. And there are two other players.

1:41:10 There's a square and a triangle. So the rolling one's trying to go up the hill and falling back and drives and keeps going until it gets to the top. Then they introduce the triangle. And the triangle comes in as the rolling circle is trying to go up. The triangle is pushing to help it get to the top, okay?

1:41:34 The next thing is a square. The square is at the top. And as the circle is trying to get up, the square pushes it down. Now the infant, after seeing this a number of times, the person running the show, comes out with a tray, and on it is a triangle and a square. And it shows it to the infant. The infant picks up the triangle and will not pick up the square. Why? The triangle was the one that helped.

1:42:11 The square was the one that pushed the circle down the hill. And the infant sees that and already makes his decision. The triangle is friendly. The square is not. At an infant level, the child was born with harmony is better than the square at that moment. The child is born with this. But then they're in a program in a family. And I say, well, how much of that family is Darwinian? I say, all of them. I say, how much of them are so dependent on the competition that killing somebody is That's a way of life. I'm sorry.

1:42:53 That guy was challenging my survival. I do what I need to. They program the love out of that child.

1:43:03 Let me ask you this, Bruce. What does a healed civilization look like, not only spiritually but biologically as well?

1:43:12 A garden. It's a garden where everybody is in harmony. We love each other, help each other. support each other, there's nobody living on the street, there's nobody starving in that world. Humans are supposed to be mammals, which by definition means nurturer, nurturing, taking care. I'll give you an example, I talk about dolphins, Dolphins are mammals, they have to breathe air, even though they're under water, they have to come up and breathe air. If a dolphin gets sick, the other dolphins in that pod that they're in will lift up the sick one, bring it to the surface so it can breathe, and then let it back down again.

1:44:07 That is nurturing. That is taking care. We are designed to be nurturers. But the program has taken away where, oh, screw that one, can't breathe, that's his problem. I can breathe, screw them. It's like, that's not nurturing. That is Darwinian. And this is why I finally had to write the book because nature said, you have the answer. You've had it for 20 years. What's up, man? So that's why the book is called Beyond Darwin. Because it's Darwin theory that puts us in this position that acknowledges, well, that's okay.

1:44:47 It's based on competition. Survival of the fittest. A loser, not fit enough. And that's why they're a loser. So don't worry about losers.

1:44:57 So how's the book being received?

1:45:00 First week out, New York Times bestseller.

1:45:03 That's beautiful.

1:45:03 It was wonderful. I want this. And they say, why? Because I want to sell books. I say, no, that's not even a mission. The mission was, I want to wake people up.

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1:45:25 Now, Biology of Belief has been around the world. It's sold millions of copies, okay? But that's a community of people who are awakening to belief in biology. There's a larger population that are sleepwalking through this thing, buying the show on TV, buying the ad on TV, buying the news, and just sleepwalking. I was thankful for the New York Times bestseller list on my book because it opens it up to that community. Instead of the same one I keep talking to, I'm talking to it The converted. The choir.

1:46:06 I'm talking to the choir. They already know what I'm talking about. It's the other ones I want to wake up. That's exactly what we need. And so the New York Times bestseller accommodation for me opens up this to people who will not normally read that book.

1:46:26 Bruce, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing?

1:46:28 I love it. It's so simple, right? BruceLipton.com.

1:46:33 It's good. It's good marketing. It has a thing to it. It's very nice.

1:46:36 It has everything we're talking about. It has written articles. It has audio presentation. We'll have this podcast as well as other video podcasts.

1:46:46 Why?

1:46:46 It's a resource base. All of it's free. Download for free.

1:46:51 All of it.

1:46:52 Why? What good is it if I'm the only guy who is saying, I know how to live in harmony. And you don't. So, It's like, if you live in harmony, my life is better. And that is why I want to be surrounded by people who live in harmony. Because on the outside, the disharmony people are far away. They're not affecting me. The bigger the circle, the more harmony.

1:47:21 And what would be, we've been talking about, what's the destination? When we all wake up as a part of the garden, where the idea is to Be nurturers. Take care of each other. Take care of the garden. And wake up and do what? Enjoy the life. I frequently ask people, I say, when was the last time you saw a sunset?

1:47:46 Most people can't even remember. And I go, I ask that because I lived in the Caribbean for a number of years.

1:47:54 Beautiful, isn't it?

1:47:55 Oh, my God. That water. It was, I would love to go back.

1:48:00 Yeah.

1:48:01 And the point about at sunset, almost everybody comes out on the beach.

1:48:05 Of course.

1:48:06 And they're just quiet. They just sit there in contemplation. They watch the sun go down. And they leave in harmony. And they leave in peace. And this is what the sunset looks like. always reminds me of, a moment of quietness. Sit there, enjoy the beauty of the sunset. It's peace and harmony with everybody. It's like, wow, that is a destination.

1:48:39 My friend, it has been such a pleasure having this conversation with you. I know it's going to throw ripples out into the universe, which I hope it does. And I appreciate everything you're doing to help awaken the planet, my friend. So thank you so much. I cannot wait for our next conversation.

1:48:54 Again, so happy to be here. With the deepest appreciation of offering a platform to provide some knowledge, some empowerment. I want people to have their power. I trust them more. than the government and the corporations.

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