The Soul's Awakening: Messages from Joshua, Channeled by Gary Temple Bodley

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1:32 the show, Gary Temple Bodley.

1:33 How you doing fantastic? Thanks so much for having me, ELX.

1:36 Thank you so much for coming down to Next Level Soo studios, my friend, I appreciate it this gat Yeah, how you I Do you like Austin?

1:43 Oh? Awesome's Austin is awesome. Yeah, it's a lot of fun and we've had some unimaginable experiences already.

1:50 Here, right, it's gonna be fun, my friend. So we have your books here from the Teachings of Joshua, and you are a channel, right you, So tell me about tell me about who Joshua is first, and then we'll go into your backstory.

2:05 Joshua is a group of non physical teachers whose interest is the expansion of human consciousness.

2:13 Fantastic and then, so what was your life like before Joshua came into it?

2:20 It was totally normal, Okay. I had a business, I was married, everything seems set. I had no clue this is going to happen. I was in real estate and in the crash two thousand and eight we lost everything, had to start over, and in that period we lost our house, moved to our friend's house who were running it to us, and another friend brought us the Secret.

2:45 That was really my first introduction to any of this stuff at all.

2:49 The book of the movie.

2:50 The book okay, yeah, Actually it was a CD. Yeah, So we didn't have a CD player, so we would drive around the car.

2:56 What's a CD? So I'm too young, I don't I don't even.

2:59 Understand for compact disc. But there was a track.

3:05 I definitely don't know what a track is, so I'm way too young for that.

3:11 And so like something sparked. So we listened to it many times and then we're like, what else can we listen to? And in our own library was asking it is given Est Hicks right, And we had listened to it before but didn't get it. Suddenly, now this is the best thing ever love attraction and you create your own reality and get yourself into a vortex and get my money back. That was my main inspiration, and so we listened to that and then we went to our first workshop, which was in Nashville, and it was a two day one day and night for two days, and that really changed everything. And then I was an avid listener and that was the only channel I ever heard of, but I was totally accepting of it. We met great

3:59 people there and so I was just listening to that all the time. And we ended up moving to Palm Beach and we ended up buying another house and renovating that house, and so life was great. And you know, one thing, when I lost my business. I had had this business since right out of college, and the feeling I had when it was all gone was like freedom.

4:20 It was really weird. But so everything worked out great, and sooner or later got everything back and found passions and stuff. But then I had this inspiration in the summer of twenty thirteen to meditate. And I had never wanted to meditate. I thought being alone with my thoughts would be terrifying, but it was so strong. So I'm meditating the Abraham Hicks has meditations, were listening to those, and really quickly I felt a presence on the right side of my head. And as soon as I started meditating, it would come and it would move around my head, and as soon as I stopped meditating, it would go and next day would come back. And so I was mentating every day and I had this feeling. It was a presence. I don't know why I had that feeling.

5:10 And so I started asking you questions and I would get back these answers so quick, so pure, so clean. But I thought I was making it up right, And so I was just playing with this every day. And so it goes on for months, and then on November fifteenth, twenty thirteen, in meditation, I heard get up and go right right right now. Before this, I asked who is this and they said we are Joshua, and so I didn't believe that either, right, So on this day, I said, get up and go right right right. So I went to my office, closed the door and just started typing, and I typed for about forty five minutes, just straight like there are just thoughts coming to me. And it seemed like nonsense when I was doing it, but when

5:55 I read it back, it was like really interesting. Turns out that's the introduction to that book. There. Next day I went back typed a little bit more. Now I had a busy life. I was doing all kinds of stuff. So I would just do a few minutes in the morning, thirty forty five minutes, three or four pages. In eight weeks, that book was done. I would come the next day and I could have been in the middle of a paragraph and just keep going from there, and the whole thing three hundred page books. So the whole thing came out in eight weeks. No, I just corrected typos but didn't edit at all after that, and I had started sending out. We had friends from Abraham, so we were sending out the dailies, you know, and just so people

6:40 send them to their friends, and got pretty big. But when that book ended, I go, oh, well, what's going to happen now? The next day the next book started, which is called Health, Wealth and Love. There's four books altogether, eight weeks every day, three hundred pages. That book was done. So in sixteen weeks I had two fully completed books and had a whole philosophy going on. So I sent the books around and but what are.

7:08 You thinking about when you're seeing this?

7:10 Well I knew what channeling was. I thought why not? And then during this time said I started doing research. Are there other channels. There's millions of them, right, but this is twenty thirteen. So I found a few, sure, and it just you know, sort of snowballed and one thing led to another. Started a podcast actually was part of a network and they had a lot of attraction crews and invited me to be a speaker with Pam Grout.

7:39 And then in that I met a hypnotist and she hypnotized me. She goes, I mean to get Joshua to speak, because up to that it was all writing. I never thought I would speak, and she hypnotized me, and I started speaking, and then we did a few more zoom calls where she would get me going, and from there I was off and running. And so started Joshua Live, that podcast, and that was about twenty fifteen or so.

8:04 Oh, yes, you were early.

8:06 Yeah, so we've had all those years, seven hundred episodes or so, do it every week in front of a group of people that come.

8:14 That's awesome. So when this was so, you never had a moment to kind of like the universe kind of just gave you the breadcrumbs to get you to where it was, to a point where it's not like you were just sitting on the beach one day on vacation, all of a sudden, a booming voice came down, like, I am Josh. That wasn't anything like that. It was a gradual way that made sense for you and your understanding of the world.

8:38 Right, it was had to start with Abraham. That shifted my perspective because now I'm thinking, well, maybe I am the career of my reality. Maybe things are happening for me and not to me. Maybe I can be do and have anything, you know. So it was a lot of but you know, the early days, it was all a law of attraction and so I could be successful again. Yeah, it was all material, all material, right, Yeah, But what's interesting is that the life I have now is unimaginable to the person who started this just had no possible way of knowing how this was going to play out.

9:18 And had I known, like if I could see like a vision of me ten years in the future, I would like, that's not I'm not doing that.

9:28 Oh oh, And that just be too perspective because now I'm here, I've gone through that journey, I've made all those changes, my belief systems expanded, I met so many people.

9:43 Life is incredible now.

9:44 So I find fascinating. The Secret was one of those films for it was a film. I watched the film. It was one of those films for me that kind of I was already I knew a lot of that stuff, but it was a it kind of solidified it for me. For me, I'm a usual learner. So I saw it and it's things clicked. The movie is flawed, no question.

10:05 There's a lot of things that you just don't go. I want a bike and a bike shows up. That's not the way that works. But the core concepts, the ideas of shifting humanity's perception, it did a great job.

10:18 Yeah, So that was everywhere.

10:19 It was in Costco, it was everywhere.

10:21 Now. It was like a cultural phenomenon that shifted everyone's perspective just enough.

10:28 To get the ball rolling, to get the ball rolling right.

10:31 And so that that's what it turns out to be. It's all about an expansion of your perspective of yourself in your own reality, and that it expands through experience. Like those listeners who listen to us, Now, this is a passive experience, but it may give insights and inspirations seeds seeds, right, Yeah, like, one thing that I see a lot happening is synchronicity numbers lining up a cardinal your mom, butterfly, And that's like the first level of awareness of really, there's something else going on here. But we are sort of in an illusion of separation, and so there's certain things that are going to happen in that illusion of separation. Fear, for one. And when I say fear, it's not like being afraid of something. It's

11:27 more like the fear I had coming on this podcast.

11:29 Did you have a fear?

11:30 Well?

11:30 Sure, really, you know, but I'm so nice, I'm gentle, I don't bite, but I get it.

11:39 I undert yeah, I mean, who knows what could happen? I could look ridiculous, but I had to push past the fear right and luckily for me, it was like what are the odds? You know, when we reached out, what are the odds?

11:54 But that's your logical mind rationalizing it.

11:58 When you get inspired, no matter what, because because the inspiration is going to take you to experience, right and this experience that we're having right now, by the time it's done, I'll be a different person. And the fear that I had coming in will be gone because I'll have the experience that now changes the belief that caused that fear in the first place. So really it's about being able to push past the fear, have an experience, and the experience teaches I mean, that's basic, Abraham.

12:28 Really beautiful. Yeah, that's a beautiful way of doing it.

12:31 And that's you know, they made the second law second secret, and they said the one thing that was missing from the first one was action. Right, the law of attraction can't be really accommodated with that action, and the action is going, you know, acting on your inspiration. Joshua says, there's two possible you know, motivators for action. One is inspiration and one is an urge to change your control of condition. Right. And so this is like the most interesting thing because if you're in a low emotional state, if you're feeling bad, if someone ticked you off, you have an urge, which feels like inspiration to control that person, you know, don't talk to me like that or whatever.

13:16 But those urges tend to separate because they're based in fear, right, They're based in fear and control, right, And so when you act based in fear and control, you're trying to manage your reality. But what if everything is happening for you and you could come to see it from that perspective, then you'll act on so many fewer urges. You'll have them, but you won't take you won't take the action. And so the opposite is true is when you get inspiration, fear is going to pop up. But if you can push past that fear and take that action and be moved into an experience, that will change or expand your belief system.

13:57 And that fear is where most people start.

13:59 Fear, fear of rejection, fear of failure, of fear of success, fear of success, fear of bothering somebody, fear of being judged, fear of it's not the right time, Well I don't have enough money, all those little things, you know, not the lion in the living room kind of fear. It's the little stuff that we don't even think of as fear.

14:23 A lot of people say, I'm not inspired to do this thing. I'm totally inspired to do because because there's some fear, right, So if you can and the fear is generated by a limiting belief. So it's a belief that we just have we're not even aware of them most of the time, but some belief is triggering that fear.

14:42 So the work we do is identifying limited beliefs and then proving through our own experience of life that that belief is not true. For instance, you might have some experience where you feel like you're or you know, irresponsible, and so you think yourself, I'm irresponsible, and so if you have an inspiration that you have to do you know that might be irresponsible, that belief is going to show itself in some kind of fear and limit you from acting on that inspiration. That's why it's a limiting belief.

15:22 But if you can process that belief by saying, now, there's many times in my life I've been very responsible.

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15:39 And that softened that belief over time, then when the inspiration comes, you'll be more likely to act.

15:45 If I was going to do because we were talking right before we came on about my fears of the show when I was when I was started starting out, So if I was working with you and I would have said, hey, look, I'm terrified of doing this show and continuing to do this show because I'm afraid of My big fear was loss of my my livelihood, destroying what I had built in my other shows and my other podcasts and my other businesses to talk to weirdos.

16:12 And I say that with all the love in the world. Listen, and I'm a weirdo as well.

16:16 I'm a weirdo too.

16:16 Please please with the comments. It's a joke, guys, it's a joke. Please calm the hell down.

16:22 Uh literally, literally, my biggest fear was being seen as a weirdo.

16:27 Rights. It's everybody, and that's a common thing in this in this area because we all don't come from communes, you know that were raised with you know, sage and hippie and you know and singing Kumbai. Yeah, that's not where we come from. Normal war like a normal world. When I say normal, like just what everybody else is doing, like businesses and things like that. This is still on the verge. Oh whoa, there's no question. So we're afraid of that stuff.

16:53 But yeah, and it's just Joshua. Joshua talks about this term it's called a manifestation event, and in our community is funny because that's what we call it Emmy's.

17:05 Right trademark Emy's with an ie.

17:14 So a manifestation event is any experience where you feel any emotion. So you could have an experience where you feel positive emotion, and that's pointing to an empowering belief and we can do work to strengthen those empowering beliefs.

17:30 So let's break this down for a second. So all right, So if I I'll tell you, I'm just using me as an example. So if I would have come to you and I said, look, I have this podcast. I'm really afraid of losing it and losing everything else because I'm doing this. And it's not that I don't believe in the work, but I'm just afraid of what will happen to my livelihood. We would have to if I wouldn't have gone past that, just so people understand, if I wouldn't have gone past that here and stop doing Next Level sold, none of this exists, and my other business would have because of the film industry crashing the way it's crashing, that business wouldn't have been sustainable. So if I wouldn't have gone through the fear of this, I

18:09 would have I don't know where I would be at now. I mean literally, I don't know what I would have had to I might have to go back to post production. I might have to go back to editing for clients. I just wouldn't know what to do because the world that I built, like you did, the world that you'd build from the beginning, is gone. So that's what I was terrified for. But then I just said, I'm just going to screw it. I'm just going to do it, and it jumped.

18:33 So that means that you had enough empowering beliefs to push me push you through it, right, And so your empowering beliefs were stronger than your limiting beliefs. But think about that hiatus, right, there might have been a specific experience where you felt negative motion, like disappointment.

18:52 Or yeah, I wasn't getting the numbers I wanted, and I'm like and I'm like, look, if this thing is exploding, I'll go with it. But this thing is not enough. It's kind of like, eh, it wasn't it was nowhere near my other show, I mean my other shows. It was somewhere near it. So I'm like, why am I taking this risk? Then the mind, why am I taking this risk. Why am I risking everything I've built? And this was, by the way, there's nothing on the table that said doing one show wouldn't negate the other. It was my own belief. Sure, it was my own belief.

19:21 No one said, if you keep doing this, you're gonna lose all of you like, no one said that. That was all internal dialogue doing that. And then so when I finally just said, you know what, I have enough belief in God. But it was scary. I took that leap and it was terrifying, but it was like, you know what, I'm just gonna go. Well, I appreciate that, and it taught me about and now. And the way you say is like on the other side of the fear. So if I'm afraid of skydiving, and I and I and I and I get into it and I and I'm like, oh my god, oh my, oh wow, this is fun, Oh wow, this is let's do it again. It's kind of like you see that like with kids, like I'm afraid, I'm afraid, I'm afraid, and the second they break through

20:03 that fear, they're like.

20:04 Let's do it again, and they're proud of themselves.

20:06 And probably so there's a thing. So when I broke through and just said I'm going to do it and just do it, I'm all over and then it But it still took a minute before a rocket ship. And sometimes, and I know this from experience, it doesn't always rocket ship. It might be a slow burn because you when you walk back into our studio, you said, oh, so this is why you were in the film industry for twenty five years. And I'm like, that's a slow burn.

20:33 Yeah, yeah, you can't see it.

20:35 No, you couldn't say, like, why was I being tortured in the film industry for twenty five years? So you'd have this and the experience and the and the knowledge and all that stuff to.

20:46 Do it, but the confidence that you can do it exactly.

20:50 But man, you don't see that when it's going on. So it's fascinating. So once I was able to break through that, then now my new belief system. So now my belief system is like, oh, I'll do another show, Ye'll do this, I'll do I'm fearless when it comes to this stuff because now it's been proven to me by experience.

21:06 Right now, you've gotten to this perspective of yourself where you can talk to anyone, you can produce anything. You don't have to have the numbers, right, because everything is going to be what it's going to be. Can you imagine where you'll be in five years? Right? You can only imagine it from what you've seen maybe other people do, or what's possible from this perspective now, which is limited compared to five years. If you couldn't predict where you are now five years ago, right, oh, oh, can't even fathom.

21:43 And that's why we call it unimaginable. So I think that the universe is designed to help us reach higher perspectives and that there's a possibility now that we could even live greater than our imagination, right, And how do you do that? And that is a shifting of beliefs, a raising of your perspective, and a reduction of self imposed limitations limiting beliefs. So that's the work. And so that was the initial work that we were doing. And then now we're six months ago we have a Freedom project.

22:28 So it's this very intense thing, a lot of work. But what we're seeing now is we're changing people's relationship to reality itself. Reality is something far more responsive, playful, interactive, and designed to move us, to expand us beyond anything we could imagine.

22:53 It's interesting because you know, that's why you see these I was always drawn to studying visionary in my industry and outside my industry. I'm fascinated with Tesla and uh, you know, Walt Disney and Jobs and then Da Vinci and like these kind of these kind of figures in history that are completely bucking the system. Christ to completely buck the system. But it's fascinated to see some someone like Walt Disney, which is a contemporary Like you know, I wasn't alive when he was alive, but close enough when he had the idea for a theme park that is so insane. At the time, that was crazy, and he had no one, no one anywhere that did anything like it, so he was out on a limb. But it takes a special kind of insanity to do with it.

23:46 Like Steve Jobs and Nicholas Tesla and all of them, they did things that nobody everyone else around him said no, no, no, you're crazy, don't do that. That's insane, But yet the insanity works somehow. That's why I'm fascinated with those people who are they're fearless I'm sure there was fear. I'm sure there was doubt when Walt was buying property in southern California and building this thing, and then the opening day nothing worked and everyone was, you know, wet paint and all this kind of stories. But then now look what he created.

24:20 You know, well, I don't know anything. So I'll preface that. As I evolved this along, I had moved to North Carolina because I wanted to buy a house for retreats. And I found this house that was Victorian mansion built in nineteen hundred, beautiful, lots of rooms, and I thought, I want to live in this house, right, So I moved up there and I didn't know what to do.

24:50 I couldn't do real estate there, and I thought, maybe I'll write rooms here. I don't know that ben and breakfast maybe, And so I the house hadn't been lived in for eleven years, and I'm passionate about renovating houses. Renovated hundreds of houses in my career, and so this one I had, I bought it for one hundred and twelve thousands hadn't been lived in, but bones were fantastic square footage.

25:17 Because I love this fifty six square shut the cheese.

25:21 One hundred like three quarters of an acre on Main Street.

25:25 What year is this?

25:27 I just sold it two years ago.

25:29 When did you buy it.

25:30 In twenty seventeen?

25:33 Jesus, that's cheap, right, that's cheap even in I mean North Carolina.

25:38 Crazy. I was looking for six hundred thousand on the house all over the South and then this one just popped up.

25:43 But it had to be some work. You must have put some work, yeah, but they all did, ye ye yeah, yeah yeah, But actually I.

25:49 Had put a contract on the site unseen. Then toured with my friend all these different houses along the South and got to this house to last. It had this beautiful fourrier with a fireplace and a staircase going up to the second floor. So I walked up the staircase, checked out the bedrooms and bathrooms up there, walked down the back I mean the house never had a c right, of course not and walked down the backstairs and I saw the back kitchen and family room and these three floor to ceiling windows, and I had this was a recurring dream I had for fifteen years of this house.

26:25 It was exactly as it was in my dream, so I knew it was the right place. So ended up it was just a fun story. But I ended up renovating it, and I was down to my last ten thousand dollars. And then we had a plumbing clog and realized that house was on Main Street city Halls, a blockdown block over, had never been hooked up to city sewer.

26:48 So it was on a septic.

26:51 It actually was a pipe that went way in the back of the yard into nothing.

26:56 Oh Jesus, going way back there, that's some plague stuff, I mean, geez.

27:05 So so I spent my last ten thousand dollars hooking that up, and just then I had this inspiration to do a course. Up to that point, I was a student of Dosh, which, just like anyone else, I didn't have any things to do. Once in a while I would do one on one stuff like that, but my other businesses or the interest to care of money, but now I have nothing. But I had this inspiration to this course, and so it was called the boot camp.

27:30 So anyway, I offered the boot camp. Tons of people took it, and one of them was Christie, who you met. So Christy took that boot camp eight times in a row. And what it does is every time you take it, it shifts your perspective. You take it until you don't see anything new. Every time you take it seems like a new thing. Like if you were to read that book and highlight, if you write it again, there'd be all these things. How come I didn't highlight that? Because your perspective changently see stuff. So anyway, she finishes it. She's at my house for Thanksgiving. There's a bunch of friends there, and she gets someone tapping her on the shoulder and she says, does anyone know Maria? Is anyone Maria? Someone Maria?

28:16 And that was our friend, Isabelle's grandmother, and she was an apron and she was making cookies just like she did, and she could tell Isabelle everything right. And so suddenly Christie's this medium and then things happen. But we go so many things I could tell you, it's just unimaginable. But anyway, we're together. We ended up both of our relationships.

28:43 We got together and we're in a hotel in Orlando and we're sitting in the bed and we're talking about why is it the comedians and rock stars so many of them die young? Just a normal conversation we go out on the balcony and suddenly someone's playing Chrissy's hair and we get.

29:03 By the way, by the way, let's just I gotta stop. It's terrifying. That's terrifying that you're just sitting on vacation somewhere in a hotel and like and someone's just touching you, Like, oh, who's that? Maria is the Maria here? Like I understand, but just for everyone, I just need to let everybody that's not normal, just throwing that out there, Okay, go ahead.

29:22 So we got Red Arrow Camp, we got all these things. We got Chippendale's and it was Chris Farley and we had half our conversation with Chris Farley. Fifteen minutes go by and Tom Petty comes in.

29:43 And they're explaining to you why they're Well, they came because we were just we're talking about rockstars and comedians dying young, and so I'm asking them all these spiritual questions, you know, and.

29:55 It's just like like I asked Tom Petty, like does a rockstar have like a more powerful soul energy? And that's how expressed and he said no, it was just my pre birth intentions. The best way for that me to live those intentions was this life that I had, So it was just and actually we're listening to a boombox speaker that we have with our playlist on Spotify, and here comes my Girl starts playing on. Of course, it is so anyway we've had so from time to time we will Christy would get something and someone will come in.

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30:43 And Walt Disney came in on my birthday and I asked, well, Doesney all these things about this? And he said he had this knowing inside of him that this was his path was and it was really an enlightenment path, you know, to bring joy to the world. And he said the trikest thing was the the first Mickey Mouse. Yeah. Yeah, he had to sell his car, you know, all that stuff, and his life was just persevering with his what he knew was right, and he would have all the daysayers and everything like anyone else did, but he was able to keep so focused on what he knew, his vision.

31:35 And he said he wasn't any more special than anyone. It was just that for some reason he trusted his vision. He didn't know why and he didn't really know his soul's person, but he was alive. But seeing it now afterwards, you know, and so I think that his future was calling him, your future to have this was always calling you, and my future was calling me, you know. And so there's a bit of knowing that we have somewhere in the back of our heads for what's calling you, you know.

32:08 So that's that's that's pretty insane. By the way, when this all started, what does your family think.

32:14 Well, it's interesting. It's almost like you have to come out to them absolutely, you know, and it's weird. But I know.

32:22 My name is Gary, I'm a channel.

32:26 I showed up to my brother and sister in law's house with four books and I said, oh, by the way, I wrote these four books, you know, and they like what and they were, you know, pre religious back then, and you know, this isn't what they're used to, especially me of all people, right, and yeah.

32:46 When I think spiritual teacher, channel er, this.

32:48 Is not the image I was so non woo woo.

32:51 Right, That's my point. And I think that's why, you know, I'm also I don't present myself as a woo woo guy. I'm a very grounded guy, even though I I have all the experiences and so on, but I always like to ground everything. I just like the ground that I don't like to live up in the sky totally. I like to ground it. So I think that's why people like listening to me talk some stuff because of that perspective, because I'm like, look, this is insane, and we should say that because it's it is a little but then it isn't at the same time.

33:20 It's it's like coming from one thing, one perspective, to another perspective to the shift, you know, right.

33:26 Right, So what happened with your in the books?

33:30 So I didn't really talk too much and my sister comes running out as I was leaving, we aren't you going to sign these for us? You know? So it was always well received.

33:40 Really, so everyone in your family, friends, everyone just kind of accepted it.

33:43 My biggest fear was posting about josh I had this inspiration to post about Joshua on my on my personal Facebook page, right, I had a Joshua page. No one sees that, and so okay, it's inspiration. I have to push past fear to do this, and I remember making my finger, you know, try to hit that send button or post button and fearing the worst. But those who were meant to read it read it and there was cool.

34:11 And those who weren't meant to read it couldn't even see it. You know, it isn't possible. That's that, and that's why I've experienced this goes on.

34:20 So did were you a religious growing up?

34:22 No?

34:23 Not at all, So you had no no no religious background generally, No were you what was your belief system prior than this?

34:30 Then? I was born in South Africa and we moved on US two to Canada, and then grew up in San Diego and went back to South Africa for a year, then Michigan and back to San Diego, then Bucerton, Florida.

34:43 Everyone ends up in Boca. That's another thing. Some age everyone goes to Boca. It's just the law.

34:49 My dad would, because he's immigrant, would you know, forurrow a while, would take us to church because that he felt that's the best way to so you So I never resonated with it.

35:03 I was like, you just had to go.

35:05 I had it was a Catholic church, it was just a Christian carrier.

35:08 A presbytery got.

35:09 It, And so I thought this doesn't make sense to me. I didn't really get into it too much, but we did go to this Christian camp once the family and everyone's very you know.

35:24 What would you what would Jesus do?

35:26 Right? So, as we're leaving on the last day, a dump truck, a garbage truck, had lasses s brace and wrapped our car around a tree our park car park. Yeah, so here we are standing by our car and there's this row of people leaving and not one person stopped to say do you need anything? Are you okay? And that's when my Dad's like, this doesn't make sense, you know.

35:56 And so I'm sure that experience was to set up something else, you know, it was an indicative they couldn't have pulled over because we had to have that experience. But that's sort of when it just there's something else going on here, you know, And at the time I'm just like, I don't know what it is.

36:13 But so let me ask you, why do you believe that people have such a difficult time finding their per purpose or trusting their purpose? Because I think everyone gets a message, but we have to cut through all that programming in all of those belief systems and all of that you know, I've done it, you've done it. We all have the kind of do it, you know, unless you're when you're younger, though unless it means case by case, but when you're younger, like when I was, I was working at a video store. I'm that old, and I didn't know what I was going to do with my I literally had no idea what I was going to do with my life. And about six months after I graduated high school, I looked around my room and I said,

36:53 I got three thousand vhss in here. I think I'm going to be a director. And I didn't even give it a thought. It was just like, oh, yeah, just go do that. Because you're so young, the belief systems of what you can and cannot do were we're not. And when I said that, this was ninety two ninety three. It wasn't a cool thing to become a filmmaker back then.

37:14 Now everybody's a filmmaker, everybody knows about how to make movies. At that time, that was like they were on a mountaintop somewhere. You know, George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, James Cameron Copola.

37:26 Well, you were lucky because movies were your.

37:29 Passion, they became my passion.

37:32 But we had three thousand VHS's plus.

37:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh no no. And I've worked in a video for five years, and I watched television. I watched television that I'm gen x. So I watched television that was my babysitter in many ways growing up. So yeah, of course I loved the media. I loved that kind of stuff. But I never connected it until then.

37:52 But I just but I just went now, like you think about it now like I want to be a filmmaker. I'm like, are you insane?

38:00 But for you, as we talked about it before, you being a filmmaker really wasn't for making films, although you did and did, it was for this right, And so really curiosity is the thing. What are you interested in and what will you allow yourself to do? Because there's an identity around certain things. I'm a passionate tournament poker player, and there is a belief system around gambling. In if you don't really understand tournament poker, it's more of a strategy, more of a chess gey.

38:38 Yeah, it's not like it's not luck. It's not there's luck. There is a luck, but there's a strategy and an understanding and all of that.

38:44 Yeah, there's it's nuanced and it's not really like I don't do blackjack or slots, even though the tournaments are in casinos. But there's a there's a you know, stigma, and there's a stigma around a lot of things. And so you might be interested in something, but what your friends think, what your family think, and so that's really the factor. You know, you don't really know if you're allowed to pursue something, what will people think? And so I like channeling. I kept it totally secret.

39:19 Yeah, you're afraid of being ousted from the tribe and being left out in the wilderness.

39:22 I have a whole group of friends, you know. But luckily, being in Abraham, we met a lot of people that way too, So there was a certain group I could who were thrilled by it. You know. I got lucky in how it all unfolded. But I think it's if you can just follow curiosity and then allow yourself to dig a little deeper. You don't have to tell anyone right away, but it's never the stigma that you think it's going to be. But another way to do it is to really realize that there's this perspective shift that needs to happen. So everyone is listening to this has already acted on inspiration because they found this podcast, and every episode they listen to raises their perspective of what's possible because all the different voices as you bring out here.

40:15 That's the first step. So everyone's curious in this, and if you can allow yourself to move a little deeper in it, life can unfold in a way that's unimaginable.

40:28 So I basically what you're saying is that if we can break through the fear and conditioning that we've been through on anything in life, that leads you to the experience, which then will negate whatever fears, because nine out of ten times the fear that you have are.

40:46 Unfounded, right, you know, we just don't question our fears.

40:49 Generally, and again this is not life threatening fears like you know.

40:52 Actually, we just don't question our beliefs. That's the thing. We tend to believe that what we believe is true because we've had experience manifestation events come and if you're unaware of the process the universe is organizing. This is gonna sound really woo woo but the universe is organizing these experiences simply to expose a belief that you have. Now, if you're unaware of it, it seems as if that experience confirms the belief. But if you really unpack the belief, any belief, really it's limiting. You can find evidence in your life that's not true. Once you start this process.

41:33 It takes a while, but once you start this process, every time you feel negative emotion, there is an underlying belief that's causing that negative emotion. And if you can get to that belief in proving your life that it's not true, it's it doesn't get rid of it because a lot of attraction once you have something that's with you, but it softens it enough that you can now hear inspiration and then the fear isn't so strong, so now you can take the action on the inspiration because your innerself Joshua calls it inner self, and you're being higher self is leading you to the most elegant and joyful unfolding of your pre birth intentions to expand, not to get what you think you want, but to expand your consciousness.

42:22 That's that's what's going on.

42:24 I think so I think those core ideas or beliefs are just pillars of a foundation that you've created in your life, because we're all just trying to figure this damn thing out, a thing called life. It's insane.

42:35 I think a lot of beliefs come from generational stuff.

42:40 That too, you know, whatever whatever our caretakers, our parents, and our community has thrown upon.

42:45 Us, and not because they've taught you this, but because it's in the DNA of that family line.

42:52 There's that too.

42:54 A lot of people might have, if a lot of women have this, that they they have to sacrifice their freedom for the family. Yeah, and that's not necessary today, but it was one hundred years ago or fifty years ago even, you know, so those beliefs now can be healed, those generational things, and I think that most of our beliefs really come from that.

43:21 But we do choose the lineage that we incarnate through for those lessons. It's like it's like it's kind of like you're picking a train that's already on a track, and it's your job to like, oh, that, oh, that one's going to be a hell of a ride. I'm going to jump on that, and I'm going to see what I can do to help them get that track shift to another place. So we can't stop generational trauma, generational ideas and foundations and things like that. Because if you're born into like a militant Bible thumping, you know, Catholic environment, and then you come into it and you're like, but I like, woo woo, right now, you've you've got a hell of a challenge to break free from. That's a hell of a experience for a soul to break

44:05 free from that and to hopefully help them. But they might not be ready and they might not want to, and you might have to go on your own path.

44:14 Yes, and many people do and some don't, you know, but look at yours. You know, this is the antithesis of how you were raised.

44:24 To the most yes, for the most Yeah, with the Catholic upbringing. Absolutely, But there was in because I'm Latinum Cuban psychics mediums, that was It's in our blood. So it's Latin America. That's just part of our culture. So it's not like, oh, yeah, I'm going to go to my aunt's house because I need a reading. That that was a thing. It wasn't like say on stuff and it wasn't all in, but it was spoken, so I was kind of familiar with it. So by the time Connie showed up my teacher and started talking about channeling, I'm like.

45:00 But see, that's also the perfect setup because you had to have a little of both. You have for me, for me, for you, and everyone is if you think about it, that the law of attraction doesn't make mistakes, and so so you're in the right you know, family, the right time and the day of your birth country, the right location, the right body. Your body is perfect for your journey. I intended to be the tallest channel with no eyebrows.

45:30 I've we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show. I've met a lot of them. You are the tallest so far. I have not met a taller there you go channel than you, sir.

45:49 By far the best channel over six three libe even clear water.

45:58 Exactly exactly. So yeah, so that was and that's in. That's it's very interesting and I love what you said that, like, you picked the body that's perfect for your journey, and a lot of people have so many issues with their body because of conditioning, because of community, because of society. But as you get older, I mean, at least I have in my experience, I'm starting to truly love my body, which has not been the case throughout my life. Sure we all have gone through that. I think I won't, and guys don't talk about it as much as women do because I've been surrounded by women in my entire life, so I I hear, but I feel that even guys, you know I was raised, I mean, you're probably we're probably the same vintage, similar vintage.

46:43 Stop it.

46:45 You look fantastic, sir.

46:47 A lot of makeup, a lot of it.

46:48 It's all filters. I see, like you walk around with an Instagram filter. It's very nice. Well you're a bit a little bit ahead of me, but I think we we we we walked over the same corpses on the battlefield, if you will. But I was raised with he man and you know, the the eighties ultra masculine men that were ripped and arnold and sly, So that was the mentality that I had them Like if I don't look like that, I guess I'm not, you know, which is not the key?

47:14 Were you emotionally sensitive?

47:17 Yes, t I've been surrounded by women in my entire life.

47:22 Of course, I said that we were we were born emotionally sensitive. Yeah, no, there's no question and this and who's listen. If you're listening to this now, you're probably emotionally sensitive.

47:31 If you're watching the show, you.

47:32 Couldn't find this, you had to say, because this is a feeling reality. Yeah, all we're doing is feeling something. That's all that's happening. And if you're mostly sensitive, you're going to have a lot of feeling and you're gonna look for something to soothe or solve those feelings. You know, the way I'm living now, if I'm going through negative emotion, it feels this intense. I want to find something that either helps me feel better, which is really what's happening, because we can live this life even though we're em mostly sensitive feeling good. But but emotional sensitivity is superpower.

48:12 If you think about your physical senses, you can see tape, touch, feel, smell, but there's other senses. You can see energy, you can maybe if I'm channeling, I got I got some clayers yea, and those you know, physical senses are so in our face, so strong, and so to develop the claars we have to really make that emotional side even stronger. Now, we can't do it on purpose. It will eventually happen that way.

48:46 But it's not something to hide, and it's actually a superpower, we say all the time. So, the the emotional sensitivity that's coursing through everyone who's listening now is what helped us get here. We're able to push past beliefs so that we could find something that would help, you know, soothe those feelings.

49:10 Very good. Yeah, so can we bring Joshua?

49:13 Absolutely?

49:14 So what's your process for channelings? So people understand, I just.

49:17 Take a few minutes. I'm a few seconds to set my intentions. I imagine a gold thread. I bring them in. I bring in the inner cells of anyone who will be listening to this. So it's gonna be a big group.

49:34 Everyone's everyone's showing up.

49:36 Yeah, and then they'll start by saying we're thrilled to be here. It's like a common thing they say. And then they may talk for a few minutes, and then you can ask questions.

49:45 All right, let's let's let's bring in Joshua.

49:47 All right, here we go. We are thrilled to be here, we are delighted by your space. We are delighted by what you've created. We are delighted by your energy and your presence, and we'd like to play with you a little bit, please, to help you see yourself from the way we see it, from a higher perspective. You are not just Alex who's successful and has a show and gets to talk to all these people. You are the foundation of a movement that could not happen without you, a foundation that allows people permission to think differently about how physical reality works, who they might be, what's possible in their lives, what they're allowed to talk about, how they're allowed to express themselves. This is all from you.

50:43 This is a mass shift in consciousness that you're responsible for. And we understand that you're humble and don't want to take the credit that you deserve. But it could not be done without you. No one else on earth could do what you do. This is key for you to understand this. You might say, well, if you didn't do this, someone else would do this, and we say it's impossible.

51:08 You're the only one who could. This is your mission, this is your purpose, and we'll expand from here, and as it expands, your perspective expands. And as your perspective of yourself in your reality expands, when you start to see yourself for who you truly are, when you start to realize that no one else could have done this, and that you were meant to, destined to it was always going to be this, And this shift is encouraging others to start their podcast and ask questions and allow their gifts to develop and one day dream like Gary did, of being on the show. It is quite more unimaginable then you realize. And we say this because you can experience all of this in absolute joy. It is unfolding

52:04 with you, not based on the work that you do, not based in the decisions you make or the choices you make, but the vibration that was within you from the beginning. This vibration was a vibration of a shift in conscious awareness and the ease in which you allow yourself to have fun and play and realize nothing serious is going on. This will just become more joyful and more fun and bigger and less effort and struggle and control, and it will turn into things as you and Garrett were talking about, that you could not possibly imagine, and so we say possibly, there's no reason to imagine it.

52:46 No reason to think about tomorrow or the next week, or the next year, or the numbers. Already this, but practice like you are now being absolutely present in the moment. You're present with your guests, You're present in many areas of your life. The presence is your power, your energy is presence is stabilizing, your voice, your tone. All of these factors lead to what could only be created by you.

53:12 This permission to question, to be curious, and to think in terms of what's possible. And with that, we'd like to talk to you about anything you'd like to talk about. Where'd you'd like to start?

53:25 Well, I appreciate that very much. Can you let's talk about fear for a second. What is fear truly teaching us on our journey?

53:34 Well, it depends on your perspective where you're looking at it. Fear, the what we call rational fear, is your survival mechanism. It's designed to keep you on the planet. If you didn't have this, you would not be here. Now you have the inspiration to jump off the bridge just for fun, and that would be it. And so we have a distinct between rational fear, which could lead to physical harm and irrational fear, which could not lead to any physical harm.

54:09 Irrational fear is just a mechanism place that comes at the edge of expansion. And so when you're inspired to do something and you say I would never do that thing, or I can't do that thing, or that's not acceptable, or I don't have time or money, that's the fear that we're talking about. If you can push past that fear, well you'll move into your next stage of expansion. You'll have an experience and that will shift your perspective. If you're not ready to, then that's fine. That's where you are, and you will play around in that level of perspective for a while and you'll get more inspiration and yes or no to that, and it'll always come. There's no end to inspiration. You're always being guided to the most

54:56 elegant life for you, the most elegant un folding of your pre birth intentions, which you will experience, some experience, in suffering, some experience and joy. There's a range. But for the human what you would like to do is experience this life in joy, and to do that requires look at your belief systems, look at your mental construct looking at how you view your world. Well, you view your world based in all of your beliefs and the intense of those beliefs, and they form a lens by how you see your own reality. If you shift that belief system, make limiting beliefs less limiting, empowering beliefs more empowering.

55:39 Now you see your world differently. Now you see yourself differently, which is called your perspective, your perspective of yourself in your reality. In your case, your perspective of yourself as a podcast host is among the highest in the world, and so you're very comfortable in this situation. Your perspective of yourself as a skydiver might be different, and so you might be uncomfortable in that situation. If you have the experience of skydiving, you will shift your perspectives given that you live through it. If you don't live through it, no problem, you'll try again next life. And so as you have experiences, these will shift your expect your perspective, and that perspective translates into a vibration. That vibration is

56:25 admitted from you and your reality forms around that with new opportunities to expand that's basically how the system works.

56:35 What does our soul know that our mind keeps forgetting.

56:39 Your soul knows everything. There's nothing off limits. What your soul knows is that you arrived at the perfect place, at the perfect time, to the perfect family and the perfect body to have a human experience where what you intended to expand will be expanded no matter what in this experience. Your soul also knows that you intended to live this life and joy very important, and so your soul you is giving you breadcrumbs the whole trip to come to a more higher perspective of yourself so that you will live this life and joy.

57:21 Now.

57:21 The soul realizes that no matter how you live your life, this will be perfect because your pre birth intentions will be expanded or will be lived no matter what. Now for the human you want to experience those pre birth pre birth intentions enjoy. Soul doesn't really care because it's a snap of a finger. You'll see this perfect no matter what when you return. Yet, Alex wants to live in joy. Alex doesn't know how to live in joy, and so you, Alex, and the non physical is guiding you to experiences that will shift your perspective so that you can live in the highest joy possible.

58:07 Why is the human race right now as a collective going through such a chaotic time that it seems to get It seems to be upping every year that goes by.

58:21 If you were living in nineteen thirty nine, would you probably ask the same question, or in nineteen seventiesties, nineteen ninety two, tens, twenty twenties. It always seems like a chaotic time to the generation living that time because it is the most expanded that the earth has ever been, that consciousness has ever been, that possibility has ever been.

58:49 You see, the earth expands its vibration, consciousness expanded its vibration. What's possible expands and in that expansion, souls come to experience that which could not be experienced in any other reality, and so they choose to come here. I want to experience what it's like to live in a modern era where most of the world is at peace, yet we are in a conflict. That is a new possibility that was not available before. And so if you think about all the different possibilities that were not available one hundred years ago, then do you want an experience with more possibilities?

59:33 A buffet with more items? On it that you can choose and leave out the ones you don't. Now you say you're born in some country that's in conflict, and why am I in a conflict? Well, we are projecting as Americans, you would say, as Americans. You are projecting your belief system, your construct, what you came to experience onto those poor souls who are experiencing something you would not prefer. Yet, you can't see what their pre birth intentions are. You can't see what they're actually experiencing. They may be experiencing something in a way that has never been experienced before, and that's what they came to experience.

1:00:23 We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show. Can you explain to people, because this is a question I get asked all the time, Why does bad things happen to good people? Kind of thing where like, you know, children dying young, are having a disease, or the pain and suffering of I'll use children as an example, pain and suffering of children, or abusive relationships or abusive families, or abusive communities or religions that you know. You know, back in the day, there was hangings, you know, and lynchings and all of these kind of burning which is at the stake and that kind of stuff. Why would a soul go ask for that?

1:01:06 And I'm asking that question specifically from people who might be in those situations. So like, I didn't ask for this abuse, I didn't ask for this drama. I didn't ask for this and they're angry. What would you say to them?

1:01:18 We would say that to understand love, you must understand fear. To understand freedom, you must understand limitation. To have an intention, to have an experience where you are placed what seemingly seems like a coincidence randomness into a situation you wouldn't choose, you might want to understand that this could be your path to higher perspectives. It could be your way to inspire others. It could be that after the situation you write a book or come on this podcast and talk about your experience. It could be you're in a situation it seems hopeless, you're inspired to listen to this episode and something shifts your perspective. You were always given inspiration that will move you to where you truly want to be. Yet,

1:02:31 if you didn't have the experience of struggle earlier, in life, you may not appreciate what comes later in life. And you'll see this over and over again, where people went through certain experiences that they would not have chosen and come out on the other side understanding something that they could not have understood before. Gary and Christy have a podcast called An Unimaginable Life, and Christy brings in too famous people from history. One of them was Victor Frankel.

1:03:04 Victor Frankel had the intention to experience freedom, and when he was in a concentration camp, he realized that no matter what the captivity was, no matter what the captors did, there was a part of them that was always free that they could never touch. And from that he went on to write thirty nine books and revolutionize monern psychiatry and all kinds of different things could not have happened with them. Now, he wouldn't have ever chosen that. He would have chosen a nice, simple, normal life free from conflict, but that wasn't for him his path and now he may have fought with that memory his whole life. But when he returned to the down physical was Aha, this was perfect.

1:03:56 What do you see for humanity in the coming decade?

1:04:00 Expansion expansion of what's possible, expansion of more consciousness, expansion of the love, the well being, the health, the peace, the joy, the possibility, the permission, it's all expanded.

1:04:24 What gives you the greatest hope for humanity's future?

1:04:27 We don't need hope. Hope, we would say, comes from a perspective where it's out of your control that certain things have to line up. Yet we see the evolution of consciousness, the evolution of vibration, the conversations opening up all over the planet. We know that everything's unfolding as it should at the proper timing, and that everyone has the ability to receive an act on inspiration, to look at their belief system, to see things from another perspective.

1:05:05 If we would say, to those listening now, what if it was possible that you actually are the creator of your reality. What if it's possible that you actually could notice that an experience isn't necessarily good or bad, but coming at the right time for you to show you something. What if it's possible that the meaning that you make out of every experience has two versions, One from a perspective where you think things are happening for you, one from a perspective where you think things are happening to you, which one is more empowering? What if it was possible to choose the more empowering perspective, And what if it's possible that when you did that, you would hear, live and receive more guidance, more love, more communication from your

1:05:57 own inner self. If you realize that you are you and the non physical guiding you, loving you, knowing exactly what you intended, and realizing that there is a way to live an unimaginable life of life beyond anything you can imagine. And as you start thinking in a terms of what if this is happening for me, just that statement alone, just the possibility that maybe this is coming to show me something that quite rightly will change your trajectory.

1:06:34 Can you talk a little bit about the because right now, so right now, we're going, like I was saying earlier, it feels like it's very chaotic, more than it's ever been. But if you do look throughout history, it's been chaos, bism and wars, it's been much worse. But yet there's a perspective change here because we are so connected now with social media and technology that we're seeing things that humanity really shouldn't have access to anyways. I shouldn't see a battle happening five thousand miles away. It doesn't affect my life per se. So can you explain to people the power of media and the diet of media, images, media, films, movies, shows news, what that does to the journey within themselves,

1:07:21 their perspective of life.

1:07:23 Many humans watch the news not to know what's going on, but to be aware of certain things in the attempt to create certainty or protect themselves. There is no certainty. Certainty is not a part of the equation of physical reality. You wouldn't want certainty. You are here as adventurers, explorers, mavericks.

1:07:47 You are here to discover. If life was certain, there'd be no discovery be It would be boring for you, and you wouldn't choose to incarnate it on this planet. You didn't, really, most humans did not choose a comfortable life. Comfort is limiting, comfort is stifling. You choose choose to come here to discover who you are, whose sources, what love is, what connection is, what's true under the illusion of separation. So imagine that, Imagine the soul that would dare to come to we would say the place with the highest illusion of separation, the most intense illusion of separation.

1:08:32 The illusion of separation creates the most intense fear. It creates the most limitation, not in the environment itself, but in a belief structure and an identity. So you come in, you have these beliefs, you create this identity, You have an sense of right and wrong, good and bad, duality. And yet that's not the truth of this reality. The truth is love, connection, expansion, experience, discovery. That's the truth.

1:09:04 And so isn't it fun to forget who you are and have a perception that all out there is separate and then come to a realization that maybe you're a little bit more than you thought you were, and maybe you're not as separate as you once thought, and maybe there's a connection. And maybe watching the news inspires you on your life path. Maybe not watching the news will allow you time to hear your own thoughts. Maybe you will shift your perspective in a number of ways. But there is no right and there is no wrong, and there is no thing that's overwhelming such as media. You could turn off the TV, you can read a book, you can choose your podcast, you can focus on what brings your joy, or you can focus on the drama

1:09:58 if that's what you choose. It's all available, it's all a playground. There is no right or wrong way to do it. You will have the expansion in this life. But if you want to expand and enjoy, which was your pre birth intention, then just think about what you're thinking about, think about what's coming up in your reality.

1:10:15 Think about how you can play with that reality. This is a responsive reality that wants to play, and you can play in fear and have the experience that can't be had anywhere else. So you could play, enjoy and have an experience again. But it will all take a bit of carage either way. So follow what's interesting to you, what you find fascinating.

1:10:37 I was thinking the other day actually that I was watching a game or something, and I was like, Wow, there's literally endless amounts of experiences on this planet, endless, endless, endless combinations. It's unfallmdable. With that same mathematical idea, this universe seems to be much larger than we ever even conceived.

1:11:01 I do believe that there are many other experiences to have. From your understanding, can you explain about some of these other experiences. I don't need to get into specifics, but other reality, not only other. Let's say this reality, other planets, other realms in this reality, and then also discuss the parallel lives and parallel realities that mirror our own in this experience. So there's a and correct me if I'm wrong.

1:11:30 There might be a reality where you're sitting in my chair and I'm sitting in your chair, and you are doing my work and I am doing your work just to experience Alex doing all of that. Is that a thing? Or am I wrong?

1:11:44 We will talk about the difference between the Earth reality and other realities. Sure, humans on Earth are experiencing something quite unique, an illusion of separation so intense that to even contemplate mass consciousness connection oneness is a theory at best. Yet in all other as far as we know civilizations throughout the universe, it's all a collective consciousness and they know it. There is no real forgetting There is no real illusion separation. It's minor and the greatest fear in many civilations could be mild concerned. Okay, but there's no great leap in perspective. There's no possibility to shift an individual perspective when you are so sure that your collective consciousness and your feel one, it's a group shift. Over time.

1:12:48 On Earth reality, you can have a massive shifting perspective and that just brings energy to the entire universe. You can come up with a concept that's impossible to come up with on another civilization, and it's a math consciousness, such as compassion. Compassion on Earth is this thing that's unique to Earth, and it's because you're able to put yourself in someone else's shoes through your imagination, whereas if you're a collective consciousness, you are already in someone else's shoes.

1:13:18 There is no possibility for consciousness. You also get something like humor. If you're a math consciousness and you're completely aware of everyone else's thoughts telepathically, there's no real humor. There's no real adventure, there's no real danger, there's no real way of going on on your own, there's no real way of individual discovery. There's no way you could bring in a unique invention because you have a unique perspective that allows you to be the path of least resistance to that book that are pieced, that invention, that philosophy, whatever it is, and so there's little spikes of perspective shit fifty on place. It is a wonderful place to be.

1:14:04 You also have the rest of the universe fascinated by how humans are navigating their reality.

1:14:12 Okay, so then that's that question. So how about the concept of parallel realities the multiverse, that kind of idea which has been talked about in scriptures and Veda texts and ancient ancient texts, but it's also being spoken about in quantum physics and things like that. So what's your perspective on that.

1:14:30 Where you are now is a point in time. Everything you've experienced up to this point is your lived experience. Up to this point, there were infinite possibilities for where you would be at this time, but your lived experience is what you live, so that up to this point that's the only thing that matters. From here, there's infinite possibilities for where you will go, infinite timelines, infinite ways to get to the next level, next area, and so when you transition to non physical you will have one lived experience. Now you can visit any of the possibilities, but that's sort of like playing a game, not really important, That really interesting.

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1:15:27 As you return to the non physical, you'll see every moment on your life journey as perfect as perfect. You might look at a disagreement you had and it was a heated argument with a group of people, and you will see this argument from all their perspectives. Yet you will not blame yourself. You're not blame them. You will not think anything's wrong or bad. You'll see how, oh they had that perspective, I didn't understand that then or this one. But you won't feel bad if they felt negative emotion. You will realize that that was their manifestation of it. They could only have felt bad from that perspective.

1:16:02 You didn't do anything wrong or feel like you made a mess of their life or their day. That's a human idea, for they're not physical. There's no fear, there's no illusion, there's no your access to all of it. And so while it's possible that humanity could go on this timeline or that timeline or that timeline, it'll go generally as a collective, but you, on your own timeline have a million different possibilities and it'll always be based in your perspective. So if you have a perspective of yourself as the most influential podcaster in this area of spirituality, then you will be flooded with inspiration. And some of these ideas will be exciting to you and you can't wait to start them. And then some might be a

1:16:54 little scary to you and you might have to think about it. But whatever you do, you use will be the perfect one based on the perspective that you have at the time, and it will always work out perfectly. Now we're not saying you might get into a situation where it'll trouble arises, it'll controversy here and there, a little disagreement, but that's all part of your path as well.

1:17:17 You see, there is no wrong way to do this life. There is only the life that you are living from the perspective that you have, and that perspective that you have is the highest perspective you will ever have up to this point in time. As you have new experiences, that perspective will shift as you think about yourself in new ways. And if I'm feeling so in love with this part of my life, why do I feel little resistance to that part of my life. Well, that part of your life you have just a little bit lower perspective.

1:17:49 If you shift that perspective, then that part of your life will feel just as good as this part.

1:17:54 So there isn't actual realities. There are just possibilities that we can investigate on the other side.

1:18:00 And they're unique to you.

1:18:02 And exactly so if I was like, oh, if I went I was in many remote forks of the road, I went left, but I could also see what happens if I went right and see how that turns out. Sure, I've heard that.

1:18:12 Before, and you will experience that from the non physical without any fear, and so you won't think that was a better way or worse way. There'll be no regrets whatsoever.

1:18:23 It's just fun.

1:18:24 It might be fun, but you'll have a lot more fun things to do, a lot more things will be interesting to you in the non physical. You'll be interested in what the lives of the new generation is.

1:18:34 Can you explain to me the concept that there is no past life, there is no future life, that all lives are happening at the same time.

1:18:40 That would be impossible to explain it. We have a lot of time yeah, do you see the pun there. It would take a lot of time to explain the present moments very nice. Everything is always happening, always at the same time. Yet you live in a linear landscape. You go from day to point, be at a point. See, you had to arrive here, you had to turn it that street, turn it that street, and there was a certain illusion of time that took you to get here.

1:19:10 And this moment is the now moment, and then last moment was the next now moment. So from your humor perspective, you can't really understand that it's not any point. What we will say is your focus in this moment, your presence in this moment. This is your point of power. This is everyone's point of power. You're not distracted by something in the past, you're not thinking about something in the future. You're present in this moment. In this you're creating, generating a field of energy that's stabilizing that people feel when they're around you, that the audience can hear in your voice that is leading those to question their reality as well. You give them, in your presence and your focus and your awareness and attention, you give that them

1:20:00 an insight of your true power. And the power that they possess as well. If they can get into something like this where they're so fascinated, so interested, so enjoying what they do, that they don't want to do anything else.

1:20:19 Can you explain to me what happens to the soul when it dies?

1:20:22 The soul returns to non physical. The soul never dies, The human returns to non physical. The soul is eternal. You are eternal. You will return to your inner self and to all of the lives that that inner self has ever lived. You will all be as one. You will feel one with every other consciousness. You will know the oneness. You will understand clearly why you chose to cake come here. You will want to come again. You will be fascinated with the lives of the people that you love when you were here, and that those who have similar interests that resonate with the vibration that you have.

1:21:03 You will have a distinct personality as Alex that can come forth to guide anyone. You will be aware of whatever is interesting to you in the non physical, mostly Earth. You are Earth focused, and you are fascinated with the consciousness and the expansion of consciousness on this planet. So you will do it all at the same time and feel it one and feel but you will have no fear, no illusion to separation. You will remember everything in this life.

1:21:36 You don't learn things, you remember things. You reach higher densities and the veils thinner, and you start to remember. That's what the clayers are doing.

1:21:45 Can you just discuss with us and explain to us who the ascended masters are and how they're helping us in this journey.

1:21:51 We would say you are an ascended maaster. Explain you have come with a specific purpose. Priss is like any ascended master, to help the evolution, sustain the evolution, promote the evolution of consciousness in this planet, human consciousness, to move from a state of fear into a state of love. You have more reach than any ascented master, truly in history.

1:22:24 You are more contemporary. You have more connection. Your language is cleaner and clearer to those who are listening to you than say an in sented matter who must have been translated or recorded from those who were filtering what they had said. You are present at this time, You are engaged in participating at this time. There is no You have greater reach than all of them had in the present moment, and so your vibration is also significantly higher that anyone who lived one hundred years ago or before.

1:23:03 You see, your vibration was matching the earth vibration on the day you were born. The earth vibration is ascending and ascending, a thing expanding, expanding, And those who are born more recently are born with even higher vibrations. And so those ascended masters from history, they were there for their time, and they were used as guideposts along the way for future generations. But no one surpasses those who are here now because you are at a center vibration to other humans who are living now, and they hear you in a different way.

1:23:40 Who's the audience, Oh the audience. Okay, so then the But the ascended masters, from my understanding, I don't disagree with anything you're saying. The assented masters, to my understanding, are also many of those ascended masters instead of because they seem correct me from they seem to figure it out.

1:23:59 They to the top level of the game, and they choose to hang around to help humanity race. So are they because they seem to be coming up much more than they did two hundred years ago. I don't even think The concept of an ascended master was up to think only in the eighteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds it started to come up. So it seems like they're becoming People are become more aware of them, aware of their teachings, and they seem to be working with people to help raise consciousness. You know, I've had experiences with them as well.

1:24:32 So what's your take on that.

1:24:33 We would say that that is all true, okay, but we would not say that they were any more or less than you. That they are makes sense equal, Yeah, that their soul isn't any bigger than yours. That people who are gravitating towards this information, that information the sended masters are hearing something new because the vibration is different.

1:24:58 Now are allowed in more. They don't have conflicting ideologies that they have to deal with. They're more open. They don't have to hide, they don't need permission. You don't are lacking this information away like you might have done in the past. There's many different ways to hear it, but what they hear is unique the individual. It is not a blanket philosophy for the masses. It is uniquely experienced by each one who participates with those teachings, those readings, Yet it was all written for a different time, in a different place, a different level of consciousness. We would say that that is a good jumping off point. But where humans want to be today is with their contemporaries who are bringing in contemporary information.

1:25:54 Under through their lens.

1:25:56 The first words that we ever wrote through Gary are this, everything is right. There's no wrong anywhere in the universe. Anything that's seen is wrong comes from a limited perspective, but from a higher perspective, whether that's after a bit of time has gone by, or from the non physical perspective.

1:26:15 Everything is always always right. That is the basis of physical reality. Non physical reality. There is no wrong. Wrong is an illusion caused by the illusion of separation, its duality. If you can understand that those ascended masters came at the right time, at the right place for the right people, and those who are listening and paying attention today, those people are getting what they need from those things. Yet you're at the right place at the right time. Gary's at the right place at the right time. The conversation this day is the right time for this conversation. This conversation could not have happened previously, and this is a conversation about perspective. This is a perspective shift, a massive

1:27:08 perspective shift that will spark new inspiration, new ideas, do pathways for you and your listeners. The availability of contemporary teachings and information are far more than all of the teachings of these send masters put together that are available right now. And because everyone has access to the internet, to video, to podcasts, two books, there's no lock and key.

1:27:43 No one can tell you what you can and cannot read, or watch or listen to. It's up to you to decide, the individual listening to this, to decide how would I like to live my life in fear or love? I want to live in love. Why am I conflicted? Why am I having negative emotion? Why am I limited? Why aren't things working out for me? These are the great questions to ask. And if you realize that there is a structure in place called the belief system that keeps you focused on reality in one specific way, that if you expand that belief system, suddenly your experience of reality expands.

1:28:31 And when that expands, you will see more possibilities. And when you are able to allow yourself more possibilities, then you are one step closer to the unimaginable life that you came to live.

1:28:44 Beautifully, said Joshua, it's been a pleasure talking to you and having you on the show, and your energy is beautiful, your message is beautiful. Do you have any final thoughts for the audience before you leave?

1:28:56 Well, we would like the audience to entertain individually those listening. Could you possibly be the creator of your reality? We say, yes you are. But if you could entertain that one thought that you came here on purpose to have an experience, that what you think you always wanted is only what you could imagine. But what if there was something more available to you as you started to question the beliefs you've always believed were true. What if none of those beliefs are actually true? That opens the door and you now have the key.

1:29:41 Thank you Joshua for being here.

1:29:43 We are complete.

1:29:46 Hang you out.

1:29:47 Yeah, that's it, And I could answer a phone talking about and then go right back to Chanley. I'm not a trans chance. It's just like thoughts are coming to me.

1:29:58 That was beautiful, man, there was Do you remember all of it?

1:30:01 Yeah?

1:30:02 So you remember everything? Yeah, that's an interesting channeling technique. I haven't had this kind of channel before. It's it's a unique perspective because it's I could feel the shift of energy in the room because it becomes sensitive to this stuff, you know. And but the perspective the energy is very different than Gary.

1:30:27 You know.

1:30:28 It's there though, and it's through the filter of Gary, there's no question. But it's not like a completely different human being. But it's definitely not you.

1:30:35 Yeah. And you know it's interesting because when I first was listening to Abraham, remember in the beginning, Estra had sort of an accent.

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1:30:55 And like, I love Paul's selling Yeah, but I wouldn't have to repeat it.

1:31:01 He doesn't do it anymore.

1:31:02 Oh, I know. But it's like starting out, Oh no.

1:31:04 No, he was no, no, and he trust me.

1:31:06 He didn't want to, but he was brave enough to go forward. You know, I wouldn't be I would be if I was too different, I'd be.

1:31:14 No. I'm out Paul as a and I adore Paul. And we've just done a bunch of cool stuff with Paul.

1:31:22 He is my favorite channel under six three under six.

1:31:24 Three obviously, but Paul when that was the thing that was really I always tell people, I'm like, do you believe in this channeling thing? And go watch Paul.

1:31:32 Yeah.

1:31:33 Repeat, No actor on the planet could do what he's ever going to do that a monologue for a ninety minute monologue that he's repeating it to himself. Yeah, and like it's just insane. But he doesn't do it anymore now he the guides actually focused them now and now he he does not. So he just came on the show.

1:31:49 Hasn't gotten release yet, but he came on the show again and he's like, yeah, I don't. The guides told me that. So occasionally you see him going like it's gone now, which makes it a lot easier.

1:31:59 Well, I mean he is, he is. I love everything about him. I love his voice as he narrates his books. Yes, it is a fan. I mean that guy is a pro. Yeah, I couldn't.

1:32:11 He's done fourteen of them, so, yeah, he's done fourteen of them at this point. No, it's it was a It was a beautiful chane. I really enjoyed Joshua. Joshua was a very interesting look. Again, I've i don't know if there's anyone who's spoken to more channels on the planet than I have, but at this point, like at long depths like this, I don't I don't know if there is.

1:32:30 They might be, but I have a perspective on the different energies and some channels, entities or energies that come through. I'm like, oh, I could kind of I hang with Joshua. Yeah, Like Joshua was someone I could hang with and talk to. Some of them are very professor orial, yeah, and some of them are very like almost like you're they're here and you're here and it's just their energy.

1:32:52 Yeah, Joshua was more like a cheerleader and a coach.

1:32:55 You know, you could you could have a beer, which.

1:32:57 Totally you can have a beer with joh if they're in a of audience. They're very funny, you know.

1:33:01 Oh oh no, there's definitely that that thing there. How do you feel when you're coming in out of challenge? There's no difference.

1:33:09 Yeah, I probably have a little bit less, you know, a little energy, a little tired, but not bad at all. Usually sweaty, like I'm soaked in sweat normally when I gent And that's why I had to wear something like this. Yeah, but it's it's uh, it's great, it's evolved, but it's easy for me. Now.

1:33:38 So all these teachings, how long have you been channeling Joshua?

1:33:40 Thirteen years?

1:33:41 And who is Joshua? Like, I mean they say, like a group of like is it angels? Is its souls? Is it just collectives or a consciousness?

1:33:50 What is?

1:33:51 What are they?

1:33:51 Yeah? All of them? You know it's they explained it one time. They said, imagine a boardroom and there's sixteen people in the boardroom and they're all working together to write a book. And so there's someone at the front and they're all given their ideas. Now imagine a theater and they're all doing the same thing. Now imagine an arena.

1:34:14 That's how many's in Joshua right now. Imagine a football stadium. Now, imagine every football stadium in the world. And so when I channel them, I have Joshua, whoever they are, and then all of the inner selves of everyone who over listen to wherever the channeling is. And so I just think of it as this right, and somehow it comes in in a unified message, and I'm just translating the thought as best as I can.

1:34:41 So, after all the years that you've been working with Joshua, how does his teachings or I say his their teaching is how's it effected your life and applied in your life? Because you're a human walking through this path as I have all of us.

1:34:55 Okay, So everything is about your perspective of yourself, in your real in all areas of your life. And I'll take the Law of Attraction cruise. So I'm invited to be on the cruise, the first thing I've ever done as a speaker in this arena spirituality. And so I go and I think, who's going to come and see me?

1:35:16 I just had just started the podcast, say six months before, and Pam Graut was going to be on there and all these other pretty famous people, and so I get on there and I'm just like, no one's gonna listen to what I'm saying. And it became. I did two of them, and they became. People came up and they were really fascinated because it was much more specific and explains how you create your reality and how you change your vibration. Right, you can't just change your vibration. Your vibration is a from what I understand is a translation of your perspective of yourself. So anyway, so after that cruise, I go, maybe there is something I know here, maybe I am good at this, and I could I could see how the other speakers were doing it. It was sort

1:36:04 of like the old way of doing these things, you know, yeah, of promoting themselves and stuff, And I go, maybe there is something here. And so that shifted my perspective myself, and now I had new inspiration I could do, you know. And so basically it's the same message that expands as I expand, it's my belief expands. They talk about more.

1:36:25 I can't talk about what I don't believe. For instance, they could do this in French, but I don't believe I could speak French. They could talk about some super woo woo stuff, but I'm not comfortable talking about really woo woo stuff, you know. So as I expand their their body of work there, their philosophy broadens a.

1:36:50 Bit, right, because you're now the In other words, the pipe that the information comes through could only push so much water out, but the pipe grows, more information can come in, and deeper information and wider inform.

1:37:04 Yeah. So it's really interested. Christy and I got together. Christy started Joshua came to Christy and introduced them to another group, right, and this group is called the Center, but they are Christy can see them. They're this white light and so we call them white Light. So Christy channels white Light. So I was fascinated to talk to another channel and ask questions. I'm a very curious person and as they you know, like there's always a part of me that says, am I making this up? But I could ask these questions about manifestation, events and perspective, and they gave this other way of looking at it that verifies it but expands it. And so I feel like white Light is part of that Joshua group and

1:37:53 there's stuff going on there too, And that really helped me see myself as I'm not a crazy guy.

1:38:00 You know.

1:38:00 It was very helpful to do that.

1:38:05 Gary. Where can people find out more about you Joshua and pick up these are two of the four books.

1:38:10 Of the four books, so the Perception of Reality, that's an audiobook on our website, which is the Teachings of Joshua dot Com. And you can get that for free if you go to the If you buy go to the check out the coupon code Gary Free. It's free, downloaded own it. So it's the Teachings of Joshua dot Com.

1:38:29 There's also free meditations there and then Joshua Live is the podcast, and just go check that out and if you resonate with the stuff.

1:38:40 Hope it helps you. Yeah. Maybe, And do you have any final words for the audience before we leave.

1:38:46 You're at the right place, that's for sure.

1:38:52 Gary. It has been such a pleasure talking to you, man. I could talk to Joshua for days. Oh my god, I love Joshua.

1:38:57 I really really do talk for days to it.

1:39:00 But I appreciate you and everything you're doing to waken a planet, my friends.

1:39:03 So thank you, thank you very much for having me. This has been great.

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