GMFB Wednesday Hour 1: Rams Outlook, Patriots Offense, and Packers Future

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0:25 Yeah, that's right. And it's a Wednesday, which means we're locked and loaded here on GMFB presented by Old Trapper Beef Jerky. It's October 14th. Jamie Urdal, Matt Saideo, Dante Wittner at the breakfast table here in Los Angeles. Kyle Brandt dressed to the nines in New York City. We know you must have taken that train in KB. You got your coffee. You're amongst all the investment bankers. You're just buzzing around town and you're ready to talk about the team in Los Angeles.

0:48 All right.

0:49 Should we go with the Rams and start the show? Let's do it. But let's make sure we understand them fully. With that, Mike Garofalo, welcome in. Mike G, the Rams still feeling the fallout from their Monday night overtime loss to the Bills. What's going on with L.A. and work our way through some of the news with this team?

1:07 Yeah, a little bit of.

1:08 Rams news yesterday.

1:09 Alaric Jackson, the tackle for the Rams, suspended two games by the NFL. This is subject to appeal, but the suspension for his moment after the game where he took a swipe at Bradley Chubb, not quite sure what was said to make Jackson do that.

1:24 Now, that'll be part of the appeals process.

1:26 He'll say, hey, he said this, but regardless, it's physical violence on the field, whether it is pregame, during the game, or postgame, the NFL acts on it, and they did, in this case, two games. for unsportsmanlike conduct for this shot to Bradley Chubb's face. So let's see how that goes for Jackson on appeal. But at the very least, looking like he's going to miss at least some time here. Meanwhile, Harrison Mevis, the thicker kicker who has been struggling for the Rams the last couple of weeks, this kick in overtime was blocked.

1:56 Now, would this have missed anyway? That's not the one.

1:58 That's the one he missed earlier in the game. Would the one that was blocked have missed anyway? It looked like he kind of pulled it a little bit to the left.

2:04 Would it have occurred? Nobody knows. Regardless, the Rams say time to move on.

2:08 They signed Blake Groupie off the Jets practice squad.

2:11 Now, Groupie was waived by the Colts.

2:13 He barely lost out to Spencer Schrader in training camp. The Jets claimed him, had him on the roster, but he never kicked for them.

2:19 And then they bumped him.

2:20 Down to the practice squad, which made him available for the Rams. who checked in on a few possibilities and decided Groupie is their guy.

2:28 He was in Indianapolis. Bubba Ventron, the special teams coordinator in L.A., was in Indianapolis as well.

2:34 They just missed each other. However, there is some familiarity there. So Blake Groupie in thicker kicker. Harrison Memphis is out. A lot of Rams action as they try to get this thing moving in the right direction and reach those expectations that folks like us set for them.

2:48 Absolutely, Mike G. Starter pack on kicker news is just if you have to say, oh, it's not that miss, it's a different miss, then I feel like we understand where the story is going. Mike G., thank you so much. A little history lesson for you. At the Summer 92 Olympics, the OG Dream Team, the reason why we call it that, swept everyone in their path in group play and dropped over 100 points in every single game on their way to a gold medal win over Croatia, which was the closest any opponent came, and it was in that game, which was still a 32-point victory for the U.S., You understand where I'm going with this. That's the dream team.

3:20 That is not what we were calling the LA Rams this summer. They are now two and three. And here we are asking Puka Nakua if the Rams can do enough soul searching this week to beat the Arizona Cardinals in week six.

3:32 We got to be able to physically and mentally reset by tomorrow and get ready to play back here at home.

3:37 And we got the Arizona Cardinals.

3:38 A familiar face coming in with Mike LaFleur, but it's going to be an opportunity for us to respond and really look ourselves in the mirror and say, what is our identity going to be? And, uh, Can't let the Buffalo Bills beat us.

3:50 Twice. Puka saying soul searching. They got a reset by tomorrow. They're on a clock now because the season rolls on. So what do you make of what Puka had to say about the current identity of his team?

3:59 Well, Jamie, you're right.

4:00 We didn't call him the dream team, but we did call him the super team. And right now I think it's because of that super team. The Rams is filled with elite talent, but because of that elite talent, I think they overestimated their ability to make the playoffs. And because of that, I think they are farsighted or they were farsighted instead of nearsighted. If they truly were a team that had the one game at a time mentality, I don't think they handled game one like the way they did. I know the conversation was, well, international trips.

4:27 Last year we did it.

4:28 We went to London and played the Jacksonville Jaguars.

4:30 Guys, last year you traveled from Baltimore, Maryland to go to London. That's a six to seven hour flight. That's not a 15 hour flight. When you're talking about Puka Nakul, when you talk about the injuries, all of the things when it comes to the training camp, I think they handle it different. And I just think that Sean McVay and the Rams, because of the guys who they had on their team, they thought.

4:50 They had some time.

4:52 They thought that Miles Garrett, you can go on IR, you can get that fixed up because we will be there in the playoffs at the end of the season. Puka Nakul, you can take the time to get healthy. Well, they fall to the Broncos, and I think that after they fell to the Broncos, it would have been interesting to see if they won, if Puka actually came back and played against the Philadelphia Eagles.

5:13 So now they sit where they sit. And again, I just think it's a team that.

5:17 Has a lot of talent, and they overestimated their abilities, and they thought they had some time. Well, now they're sitting at two and three, and that time is running out for them, and now they're kind of in a panic, Dante.

5:26 Oh, no, Dante.

5:27 You know what that is?

5:28 Yes, I do.

5:28 Choke artist.

5:30 Universal symbol.

5:31 Choke artist. That's their identity right now.

5:33 And I know that sounds harsh, but look at their expectations coming into the season. Matthew Stafford, Puga Nakua, Devontae Adams, Trent McDuffie, Myles Garrett, Aaron Donald, Sean McVay. That's a lot of talent on both sides of the football. Before the season, everybody had this team penciled in like they were destined to win the Super Bowl. But when you consistently fail to live up to the big moments.

5:58 We have to start talking about.

6:00 Not the talent that you have, but who you actually are. Matthew Stafford throws for 383 yards. Hogan Akua has 17 catches. And you still find a way to lose to the Buffalo Bills. This is a team that can look like a Super Bowl contender for three quarters and then.

6:17 In the fourth quarter, they failed to finish the game.

6:20 So this Rams team is like a blockbuster movie with an incredible trailer and a terrible ending.

6:29 Oh, no.

6:29 The terrible feature.

6:30 At some point, you have to live up to the hype. You came to win the game. You want to win the Super Bowl. You put this pressure on yourself. Now you have to live up to it.

6:42 Dante, can I ask you something?

6:45 As a guy who played really hard and was on good teams and was old-fashioned, are you kind of enjoying, personally, watching the Rams struggle?

6:53 Keep it 100% real.

6:53 100%.

6:54 When I played in the NFC West, I know how bad, how rough and tough those battles were. So even today, when I watch the Rams, when I watch the Seattle Seahawks.

7:03 I actually take a little bit of... You know, it just feels a.

7:06 Little good, a little personal to watch these guys struggle, especially when you put a team together, when you assemble a team together with all of these superstars and you don't live up to the expectations.

7:17 I love it.

7:18 I appreciate the honesty.

7:19 And Jamie, you were invoking the 92 Dream Team.

7:21 To start the show.

7:22 I would then have to look to the Chuck Daly of it, the head coach.

7:27 What's going on with McVay?

7:29 I've never seen him clearly under more pressure, more stressed out, less joyful. Like, Sean McVay has a contagious energy for football, and that's part of his magic, not just as a player, but for people like us, too. Let's just— let' s get up to speed here on McVay. Do you remember at the beginning of the season, he did a 60 Minutes interview in which he seemed like a completely stressed-out kind of basket case and not that lovable football crazy like we've all come to know and love?

7:57 Here's the quotes. I'm a lot tormented. I'm not really here right now. I feel rude. You deserve more attention.

8:04 I'm capable of giving you right now, and I feel bad about that. Weird, offbeat interview in which Sean's incredible magnetic charisma was dark and off. Okay, then week one, it's a malpractice decision in which he even admitted it was a terrible, terrible choice to have them fly out there the way that they did, and they got absolutely slapped around. And then, you know, you're lucky to get a win against Philadelphia.

8:32 And then you see when the other night is.

8:34 Like okay we lost to Buffalo and Sean is furious afterwards I thought he did not coach like himself at the end of the game the Rams offense could do anything they wanted against that defense and then he got really conservative on a third down he sends out the kicker and he gets burned and then afterwards.

8:52 Like here is in my opinion.

8:54 The best coach in the NFL and one of the most likable figures in pro football after the game.

9:00 This one is.

9:02 This is the one.

9:02 This stings.

9:03 And it's going to hurt, but we can't afford to let it.

9:06 We can't let this team beat us twice. And we're going to have to regroup and reset ourselves. And it's been a while since I've been this pissed after a game two. But has it? Because this is your third loss.

9:18 Like, weren't you just as pissed after the other two?

9:20 I don't know. I... I love McVay. I do. I love him as a figure. I love him as a person.

9:26 I don't love the guy I'm seeing right now because it doesn't look like.

9:28 He loves himself.

9:29 It looks like he has stressed the hell out. And I don't mean like a normal NFL coach. I mean like one with the world on his shoulders.

9:36 Personally, listen, I believe he's got two young children at home, including a baby.

9:41 That's not easy.

9:43 And he's in L.A., and it's.

9:44 Like, you got to win the Super Bowl this year, and you lost again last year, and now we gave you everything. And don't be the guy, Sean, to have, like, the best roster in the league and finish 9-8.

9:53 And that's how it feels right now.

9:55 I just— we almost need, like, a check-in with McVay, because Mr.

9:59 Energy and Mr.

10:00 Magnetism, I don't recognize him right now.

10:03 And I'm almost, like, in the football— sense, just a little bit worried about him.

10:06 Kyle, you just asked Dante to have an honest moment with you. I'm going to do the same thing with you. Two things that I love, honest reaction to. He was also in the headlines recently. It wasn't really about him. It was TV adjacent. And it was about a very strange byline that was written into someone else's contract about his future as a television broadcaster. That's strange as well.

10:28 Do you roll your eyes at me invoking the 92 dream team because I was reading up on them. I was trying to remind myself of the history of that and how they showed up in San Diego that summer and they scared the bejesus out of everybody because it was everybody that you knew and love. They intimidated you and then it and then they and then it produced on the court at the Olympics. Like that's not what we're seeing from the Rams. Or are you trying? Were you trying to distance the parallel by referencing the coach?

10:52 No, I'm fine with the parallel.

10:54 Tony Kukoc was supposed to be the great hope for Europe and all the world to take down the Dream Team, and Scottie Pippen D'd him the hell up, and he didn't do squat, and the players afterwards were getting autographs from the Dream Team. I love the Dream Team. And listen, I don't even hate the comparison. Their roster's crazy, the Rams.

11:10 It's the Avengers. And they got Avengers coming out of retirement, even.

11:14 But their record is terrible. They're a two-and-three team. And you have a rough start to start the season. All right, that happens. But eventually, we get to.

11:21 The Bill Parcells, you are what your record says you are. And I know there's people out there being like, they're going to be fine.

11:25 They're going to be fine. It's week six, guys. They're sub-500. This is not a slow start. This is the season.

11:31 So, at some point, let's go and get this thing going. Because when Miles Garrett comes back, if he comes back to a four-and-five team, he's not doing anything.

11:38 Did you see Miles Garrett's team last year? How did they end up?

11:42 Well, when I think about the dream team, I was like one years old, but I did see the documentaries of it.

11:46 And those guys on.

11:47 That basketball team played to dominate people. Right now when I'm looking at Sean McVay and the Rams, it's a team that's trying not to lose. And I go back to last year in the NFC Championship game where you see Sean McVay running down that sideline and he's trying.

12:00 To call that timeout.

12:01 And then the post game presser and there's just a lot of regret I see with Sean McVay. And because of that, because he's haunted by that moment, I think he's playing conservative. He's playing not to mess this thing up instead of playing to put 40 points on people and to blow people out of the water. And I think they have the ability to do that. I just think when you have all of these pieces right now with Sean McVay has all these pieces, he's just trying not to mess this thing up and it's costing him.

12:26 Rams went to Australia for 15 minutes. You could do it how the Jags do it. They go to a country and they just stay because they're in London still. Week six of the season starts as the Houston Texans and the Jaguars on Sunday morning play at Wembley Stadium as the international games continue. 9.30 a.m. Eastern is your kick here on NFL Network or... the ESPN app. Then the week will wrap up with the Commanders visiting the 49ers on Monday Night Football at 8 p.m. Eastern up in Santa Clara. I'm not going to say San Francisco.

12:52 The Bay Area on ABC, ESPN, and the ESPN app. Still to come on our show, through his two seasons in New York, Aaron Glenn has delivered us meme-worthy moments. Not from evil. We have a new game on GMFB using these moments to give teams in the league a Glenn-dorsement. Kyle, I said it, and we're doing it It's a new game on GMFB.

13:14 I like it. Anybody can laugh at Aaron Glenn. He's got the same record as Sean McVay, guys. Whiteboard Wednesday, a tradition undefeated.

13:23 What is the greatest overtime moment in NFL history? We had a great overtime game the other night, but what is your favorite moment ever in the fifth quarter?

13:32 Controversy, drama, all of that. It's Whiteboard Wednesday. Stay with us.

13:46 Good morning, football.

13:48 All right, let's play whiteboard Wednesday, shall we? Chargers wish they had a dry erase board. Everybody's at the ready. They got their markers. They got their eraser. And then the Chargers probably wish they could wipe it clean and start over. Permanent marker it is, though, Jim Harbaugh, because the season has started. And now the head coach of this team is being left to ask, being asked solemn questions at his press conference with answers like this.

14:11 When you're 0-5, what is the.

14:15 What is the message that works, you know, that kind of gets through, or is there one?

14:20 Yeah, I don't know what that message is.

14:28 It's just in the.

14:33 Players that just fight their hearts out, you know, play, give it everything they have.

14:39 That's the only way. That's the best way, but.

14:44 Yes.

14:48 Yeah.

14:50 I don't know what's more disconcerting, an 0-5 start for a team or Jim Harbaugh being rendered speechless by the way the season has started. It's not great. Dante, you're up first. Which team has left you speechless? to start this season.

15:02 By the way, I've never seen Jim Harbaugh speechless.

15:05 Seriously.

15:05 He always has a solution.

15:07 He put the words in order, probably.

15:09 You know, some antidote.

15:11 And 0 and 5 will make you that way. Mine isn't a team.

15:14 One thing. One thing.

15:15 It's one thing.

15:17 It's the entire NFL in bad situational football.

15:22 That's what left me speechless.

15:24 The amount of bad situational football that we're seeing around the league.

15:28 Clock management.

15:29 Decision-making, late-game decision-making, missed assignments, coaches overthinking situations that should be simple.

15:38 And, man, Ty, you know this.

15:39 We practice these decisions and these situations every single week. Two-minute, third down, red zone, end-of-game situations.

15:50 So these things should never happen.

15:52 You can't spend the entire week preparing for your opponent and.

15:57 Then on Sunday, you beat yourself.

15:59 Yes.

15:59 Look at what the Rams did against Buffalo. Third and five in overtime. You have Matthew Stafford, one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history, and you take the ball out of his hands, and you put it in your kicker's hands, and you get the field goal blocked. That's what I'm talking about. Bad situation in football. The Philadelphia Eagles, eight seconds on the clock. All you have to do is kick the ball through the end zone. The Jaguars don't have a timeout. You force them to run a play, you run sideline, you win the game. But you shorten up the kick, you get Abdullah, he gets you a big return, and you end up losing the game that were in your grasp. So, for me, it's not one team.

16:39 It's bad situational football around the entire NFL.

16:43 See, I definitely agree with you on that, Dante. My issue is this. The thing that has left me speechless is you talk about all those situational football errors. There's an answer to that. It's like you should have done this. When I think about the Chargers, I don't know what the heck is going on.

16:57 I don't know.

16:58 You look at the roster. It's like let's run the ball.

17:01 We're not running the ball well you look at let's pass the ball we don't have the they don't have the receivers to create separation this is a team that I had winning the AFC West this is a quarterback in Justin Herbert who I had to win the MVP they're not playing they're not playing like it right now and I don't know what the reason is for it they're making silly mistakes every single week they're turning the ball over every single week and you know in a week three matchup The defense creates all of these turnovers, and yet they still can't win the game. And so that's why the L.A. Chargers has left me speechless, KB, and I just don't know what the reason is.

17:37 What's the answer?

17:37 Well, there are many kinds of speechless. Your guys' answers are so depressing. Let's cleanse the palate a little bit. I was speechless at this. Week one, Jamar Chase, his catch week one. This was awesome. I love this catch so much. It was in the corner of the end zone.

17:53 You're going to see Burrow find him.

17:54 He stumbles, does a 360, catches and toe drags.

17:57 Just awesome.

17:58 An incredible athletic catch.

18:01 I caught so much crap for this because I said in real time that it was more difficult than the Odell catch, and people were drawn sores and so mad.

18:08 Recency biased this. I stand by it. It wasn't as cinematic. It wasn't as cool.

18:13 But I think physically it was more difficult to do what he did, Jamar Chase, in that moment. That was week one, and it's already— I think it's still sitting there looking at the catch-of-the-year thing.

18:23 So, speechless.

18:24 I sat there on the couch. Week two, like I said. Week two. Never mind this. Here, hold on a second. There we go. Week two, like I said, to March Ace Catch. It could be any week. It could be any year. It could be any century. It was still amazing.

18:35 You are in just the most wonderful city in the world, Kyle. We got to get you a whiteboard so you can erase it and not have to tear your paper because now I don't know what you're going to be left with for the rest of the segment for Paper Sharpie Wednesday for Kyle.

18:48 No, Jamie, it's cool. I'm going to go to Brooklyn. I'm going to get a $ 15, 000 mechanical bird. That's the cool thing to get right now.

18:54 No, no.

18:54 Trust me.

18:54 We can offer you a different— The Kelly Clarkson.

18:55 I'm going to buy that thing, Kelly. I feel you, girl.

18:58 We can offer you a different bird, and you're going to have to draw a picture of it on a whiteboard and then hang it on your wall. That's how this is going to go. Moving on. Get us out of here. In London, Cam Little knocked in a 57-yard game-winning field goal for Jacksonville, and that was just the Sunday appetizer. The rest of Week 5 delivered three overtime games with three very different finishes.

19:20 What's that? Daniels.

19:24 Yeah, he's not passing the ball.

19:26 Okay, yeah.

19:28 No, they.

19:29 They don't have a timeout. What are they doing? Oh, they got to get them and spike it. They're not going to be able to get this.

19:34 Out of time.

19:35 It's going to run out on them. The clock ran out as Daniels ran the ball.

19:41 It's intercepted.

19:44 It's over.

19:44 Kyle Hamilton intercepting.

19:45 Ends the game.

19:45 To win it.

19:45 It is good.

19:45 Tyler Bass sends the Bills out of SoFi with a 37-34 overtime win.

20:11 What a relief for him. Josh Allen snapped his seven-game losing streak in overtime with that Bill's dramatic win here in L.A. over the Rams on Monday night. But I ask you this, what is the most memorable overtime moment in NFL history for you, Manti?

20:25 To me, this is mine.

20:26 Now, there's a lot of different moments in NFL history that you could choose from, but I decided to go personal. Week 11, 2017. the then Washington Redskins, led by Kirk Cousins, went against the New Orleans Saints. Now, this is a game where we are down. This is third and one, and your oost comes up there. We needed to make this stop, and me and Vaughn Bale come up third and one and make this big stop to give our team a chance. We eventually go to overtime, and we win that game 34 to 31. It was a huge comeback for us in New Orleans. It was a huge game for me personally, and so out of all All the overtime games in NFL history. I went personal on this, Dante.

21:02 Week 11, 2017, New Orleans Saints over the team in Washington.

21:06 I like that. I like that. You put yourself out there.

21:09 Got two.

21:10 Mine is Carlos Dansby, one of my former teammates. Arizona Cardinals versus Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay.

21:20 Packers, 2009.

21:24 Michael Adams gets to Aaron Rodgers, strips the fumble. Carlos Dansby scoops it up, runs it back for 17 yards. 45-45, the highest scoring playoff game in NFL history.

21:36 You know what Dansby did? He put him ahead right there.

21:38 And game over.

21:40 51-45.

21:40 And you know what makes this game so great for me? All week long, they were talking about the quarterbacks and the offense. During the game, they were talking about the quarterbacks and the offense. But you know who had the final word in that game when they got to overtime? The defense. Carlos Dansby should be a Hall of Famer.

21:58 He put a stamp on it.

21:59 That's a crazy highlight with the tap. I've never seen Rodgers tap the ball that many times. He was under duress there.

22:05 Absolutely, he was under duress.

22:07 Michael Adams came loose, came free, stripped the ball. Carlos Dansby, scoop and score. You know how they teach it. Scoop and score. Step to the side of it. And then he started to do, you know. That's what we like. So, Carlos Dansby, I gave you a shout-out, my boy. I've always loved Carlos Dansby. Cool personality. Loved talking to him.

22:25 And the great— Germia Packers and Cardinals.

22:27 For a couple of years, messed around and had these insane playoff games that they would go at each other.

22:31 And that was a great one. I'm going to go— listen, it's.

22:34 Remembered by the score that the Falcons were leading with, but you forget the end. The 28-3 game, guys, went to overtime, and it was the first Super Bowl overtime ever.

22:44 It was unthinkable. It had never happened before.

22:47 And here it is, James White, sweet feet, who were so good at ending the game for the Patriots.

22:52 Remember, also, after the Patriots came all the way back.

22:55 From 28-3, they won the coin toss in overtime and elected.

22:59 To receive, scored a touchdown. The Falcons never touched the ball. This is the old overtime. Like, you were done.

23:04 They went down, scored a touchdown.

23:06 The Falcons never got the ball again.

23:08 I know this week probably has not been the best, most favorite week of Dan Quinn in the NFL, so it's gratuitous to be playing this, but it is my favorite overtime moment just because it was in the damn Super Bowl, and Joe Buck's call of this was absolutely perfect.

23:22 It was crazy enough that it was 28-3.

23:24 The fact that it also went to overtime, I think it's the best Super Bowl ever, and most famous at least.

23:28 The collective minds were blown that day because they were like, how did we just watch the second half, and now we get free football at the Super Bowl, and it was the first one ever. That one is a chef's kiss. Good call, Kyle. Last one. Yesterday, Bill's offensive lineman, Alec Anderson, came on the show, and part of what's fascinating about him is that he's a huge modern family buff. He's got a favorite character, and his favorite character happens to be a friend of GMFB. Take a listen.

23:53 I love Eric stone street. He, uh, he and I actually did a Jersey swap. I gave him a Jersey and he sent me one of his little TV shirts.

24:00 I tried it on.

24:00 It didn't fit, but I gotta, I gotta, I gotta hang it up. It's, um, it's actually in one of my like little frame boxes that I have all my other jerseys in. So it's going to go up in my game room with all my jerseys and stuff. So what I love him, shout out Eric stone street.

24:15 You know how these linemen, though, go with their lives. They retire, and like Alec Anderson, you might get the Peloton life going, and then that shirt might fit. So keep it safe in the shadow box until you're ready. Until then, we love having you on GMFB. Manti.

24:27 Yes.

24:27 If you could have one item from your favorite TV show.

24:32 Yes.

24:32 What would the item be? You got costumes, you got props, you got a lot of options here.

24:35 Yes. What is it? It's kind of a prop.

24:37 So I don't know if anybody remembers this show, but there's a show called Slam Ball. And it's about these guys, you could tackle people, you could run people over.

24:45 So there's a little bit of anger runs in there. But then there are these trampolines.

24:48 That you could jump off of and just dunk on fools. I always wanted one of those things like at a park or at my house wasn't that big so it couldn't fit in there. But maybe one day I could buy a house big enough to put one of these things down in my face.

25:01 Are those real images from Stanfall?

25:02 Yes.

25:03 Do you see the old trapper beef jerky logo.

25:05 On the side? Yes.

25:06 Shout out to old trapper.

25:07 You know what's up, friend?

25:09 And it could tackle you out of the air.

25:11 Yeah.

25:11 So when we were little, me and my friends actually put a trampoline down by the beach and we stapled a little bucket to this branch that was hanging above by the beach. And we cut the bottom out of the bucket and we're over there trying to dunk on it or dunk on each other. Bad idea because the trampoline is obviously like four feet off the ground and the bucket, you would cut your hand on it sometimes because we didn't just shave that thing down and make it smooth. So We try to make it. We try to have a slam ball little rim out there with some trampolines. I wish I had the legit one. So if there was one, Dante, it would be that slam ball.

25:41 You're also flinging yourself at a palm tree.

25:44 Yeah, yeah.

25:45 It was nice.

25:46 It was nice.

25:47 It was nice.

25:49 Well, for me, I've always been into mob movies. Mob TV shows. Right now, I'm into Mobland. Mobland is phenomenal.

25:58 Oh, yes.

25:58 My all-time favorite show is The Sopranos. So you know what I would love to have?

26:04 I would love to have Tony Soprano's Escalade.

26:08 Excellent.

26:09 When Tony pulled up to a restaurant, he stepped out of that car, you knew exactly who it was. He didn't have to make an announcement. He didn't have to give a speech. But you knew that he meant business. This is my all-time favorite mob show. This is my all-time favorite mob actor. And sometimes you don't have to say a word to let people know who you are.

26:30 And that you mean business. So rest in peace, Tony Soprano. I would love to have that escalate. I saw that it was sold for $ 120, 000. Broke my heart.

26:39 You're like, that's it?

26:41 Oh, all right.

26:43 Well, it's a great choice.

26:44 When he's driving down the street chasing Phil Leotardo, who throws out the ice cream cone and then crashes his car.

26:50 Like, I rewatch Sopranos at least once every couple of years. It's a great one. But I'm going to go with a different automobile.

26:55 Does anybody— I' m going to age myself here, and I could not give less of a damn.

26:58 Does anybody know what this is? Anybody know KITT? K-I-T-T? Nope. Anybody?

27:03 Show the picture of KITT. Kit is from Knight Rider. And now, if you know David Hasselhoff, you're like, oh, Baywatch.

27:10 No, no, no, no, no.

27:11 Real Hasselhoff heads know we go back to Knight Rider before Baywatch. Kit stands for K-I-T-T, Knight Industries 2000. It's an old Pontiac Firebird that was a talking car. And in the 80s, you're like, a car can talk? This is so cool. And it had, like, different technologies and heat sensors and all sorts of computers.

27:29 And then Michael Knight was just— oh, my God, look at it. He's just walking around, being the coolest guy in the world.

27:35 If you watch any second of Knight Rider, back in the day, you're like.

27:39 Oh, Kit.

27:39 Never mind Marty McFly's DeLorean that needs nuclear fuel to run.

27:43 Give me Kit. Give me that Firebird, Knight Industries 2000, with the little zzzz on the front.

27:50 The music for that show was so cool that Busta Rhymes would sample it years later on one of his best songs. It's amazing. Just trust me on this one, guys. I'm sure I'm getting blank stares from Los Angeles. People at home, feel me on Kit.

28:01 Mm-hmm.

28:02 Mm-hmm.

28:02 Kyle, if only there was a Knight Rider remake that could have been a success, and then it could have been.

28:08 Jamie.

28:08 What?

28:09 I know what you're getting at, and you're hitting me right where it hurts.

28:12 Jamie's going in with a deep reference.

28:14 My last ever real audition as an actor was for a Knight Rider remake, and I got called back and called back, and I thought I was going to get it, and then nothing, and they gave it to some other soap guy.

28:23 Sucks.

28:26 Put him in the trunk and get him out of here.

28:28 Yeah.

28:30 See you later.

28:31 I couldn't help myself.

28:33 It's in the book.

28:34 It's in the book.

28:36 Do you.

28:37 Do you, Kyle Brandt.

28:40 Oh, man.

28:42 Good morning football.

28:55 Of the more than 25,000 players in NFL history, only 240 have crossed the goal line to stand alone on football's most hallowed ground, the end zone, scoring a touchdown in a Super Bowl. This week's Seahawks tight end A.J. Barner looks back on his journey from being drafted in the fourth round to becoming a Super Bowl champion in only his second season. Barner scored the first touchdown of Super Bowl 60, proving that hard work and preparation can turn one opportunity into a defining moment.

29:25 My name's A.J.

29:26 Barner.

29:28 I play for the Seattle Seahawks. And I scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl. I was a fourth-round draft pick, waiting to hear my name. called until day three. When I got picked by Seattle, looking back, it was too late. I should have been picked earlier for sure. It was a great moment for me and my family. I felt like I was in the perfect place.

29:59 The excitement is just beginning to bubble up here in Santa Clara.

30:04 It is Super Bowl 60 time.

30:10 Leading up to the Super Bowl, you know, my mom will ask me a million times, like, you know, how you feeling?

30:14 You nervous?

30:15 And it's like, Mom, like, stop asking me that because you're making.

30:17 Me nervous now.

30:20 The first quarter goes and the second quarter goes and, you know, it's a long game. So you got to take a step back and be in the moment. When your moment comes, you have.

30:29 To be ready for it.

30:30 It was a wise slow blast motion to wise scissors. Probably a few more words in the play call than that.

30:37 But at that moment, I knew it was time.

30:51 Darnold under center. Five on the defensive line. He gets the snap, turns right, takes the handoff. Here comes the blitz.

30:57 There goes the throw.

31:01 The ball's in the air. You're kind of waiting on the ball to come down. No thinking at all. Rely on your instincts to make a play. It's like a holy s * * * moment.

31:26 Like I just scored in the Super Bowl.

31:34 You make that play and everything slows down for like three seconds and it's like a euphoric feeling. And then it finally hits you like, damn, you know, this is a life-changing moment. Being a guy that was a fourth-round draft pick, being a 100-recruited cat, I'm grateful in that moment. My teammates believed in me, my coaches believed in me, and I made it go happen. It's cool to sit back and, you know, have that feeling and know that's going to be with me for the rest of my life. But, you know, the person and player that I am that got me to that point is the same guy that's going to keep putting in that work to get back to that same moment.

32:18 Beautiful stories. Well done. Throughout the year of the Super Bowl here at ESPN, we are going to keep telling the stories of these players and these moments they achieved immortality on football's biggest stage. Congrats to A.J.

32:29 Barner. Go, coach.

32:32 Yeah, coach.

32:33 Jets head coach Aaron Glenn is hoping to find his stride as he continues through his second season navigating being an NFL head coach, first with the Lions as an assistant to Dan Campbell, and now, of course, he's with the Jets. But he's already provided us with something perhaps more important, at least as GMFP, and that is memorable scenes in his short tenure that create a segment for us.

32:53 Let's all remember last year to him celebrating a touchdown for the Jets with this dance.

33:00 Get it. Get it, AJ.

33:03 Tragically, I think.

33:04 The Jets lost that game to the Buccaneers, but I don't care. We still love the moves, and we are going to bring it back to celebrate anything that is Aaron Glenn related. Then on Sunday, Coach Glenn gave us this beauty when he was considering deeply in the pouring rain to throw a challenge flag. On a possible fumble at the goal line. So here's what it is. It's Glendorsements.

33:28 And I have a couple topics here. If you approve of what I tee you up with, you're going to give us the dancing emoji.

33:34 Okay.

33:35 If you do not, you're going to give the reigning challenge emoji.

33:38 All right, let's do it.

33:39 Let's do it. Understood.

33:40 We can give your Glendorsement, too. After a rough start to the season, Drake May and the New England Patriots have found their groove, winning two straight games. Now on Sunday, May became the second player in Patriots history with four passing touchdowns and a rushing TD in the same game. Not joining Tom Brady, actually joining Steve Grogan in this company back when he did in 87. Wide receiver Pop Douglas said Drake May is exactly what this team needs.

34:06 That's our leader.

34:07 You know, uh, you know, I feel like we're offensive and defense, you know, uh, How he carries himself means a lot. I feel like how he carries himself is by example. From those past games, anybody could have been down on themselves.

34:23 Not him.

34:23 He came to work. He came to work, and he still was like, hey, I need you. I got your back, Drake. It's like that.

34:31 On this team.

34:32 I feel like, man, that's what's been taking us to that next step.

34:35 All right, take your pick. Here's a look at Drake May.

34:39 Looking good.

34:39 Start the season... Last two weeks. Fantastic improvement. It's the kind of turnaround you need to see from a guy who was seriously considered an MVP candidate last year. So are you giving Drake May and the Patriots your Glenn-dorsement manti with the dancing from Aaron Glenn?

34:56 Yes.

34:57 Yes, I'm going to give him my endorsement. I am. I think the first three weeks, it was horrific. It was bad.

35:01 Like when you talk about turnovers, they were the bad type of turnover. The type of turnovers where the ball is just like slipping out of his hands when he's back there in the pocket.

35:08 Like it was horrible. It was ugly. And then week four comes along in the Buffalo Bills.

35:13 And I thought what he did that game was really smart is he started utilizing his legs.

35:17 And there's one way to neutralize.

35:19 A pass rush is to run through the A and B gaps. And now those D linemen can't go straight up the field and they have to have some sort of rush plan. And I think that helped out with his confidence heading into last week against the Raiders, where he was able to do what he was able to do. So I do like Drake May and the Patriots. They do get my Glenn Dorsman. Dante, how do you feel about that, brother?

35:36 Well, he's not getting my Glenn Dorsman. I like the talent. I like the athleticism. I like the growth. But look at who we played the last two weeks. The Buffalo Bills, 27th past defense in the league. The Raiders, who give up the largest amount of explosive plays in the league. Until he can consistently operate versus a championship-tier defense that plays too high, likes to disguise, rotate late, and bring pressure with four and force him to take— and when they take away his.

36:07 First read to go through his reads and complete footballs, I'm not giving him my Glendore Smith.

36:12 Okay, so up until their bye for the Patriots comes week 11, which one of these teams do you think has the defensive test that would pass that for you then? Is it the Bears? Is it the Dolphins? Is it the Packers? Or is it the Lions?

36:25 None of them.

36:26 Yeah.

36:27 I think that the one they have coming up now, the Jets, the Jets have an underrated defense. Like Aaron Glenn does have a good defense, so that will be a good.

36:34 Test for him.

36:35 I know the record is what it is, but that Jets defense is really good.

36:39 I didn't mean to over to skip over the Jets. I was just trying to get away from Aaron Glenn. I'm just kidding.

36:45 All right, man.

36:46 Well, I am not going to go against my guy AG and I'm not an AG, but I'm talking about the Patriots.

36:52 I'm going to go with my guy.

36:53 Oh, yeah.

36:54 Yeah.

36:54 I'm going with it.

36:56 The reason why Drake May has been balling the last few weeks and I know they want to get some defense that necessarily weren't the highest tier, but I want you guys to think about the fact that they had to make some adjustments to their offensive line.

37:06 If anybody around here knows anything about offensive line.

37:09 It takes time for those guys to coagulate. It takes time for those guys to come together. And once they figure it out up front, then the quarterback can start doing what he does. In case you guys were wondering, they had some additions to the offensive line because they lost the Super Bowl because of the offensive line, giving up a bunch of sacks against the Seattle Seahawks.

37:25 First three weeks of the season. Drake May has six interceptions, one touchdown, nine sacks.

37:30 Yep.

37:30 Can't do your job as a quarterback when you got somebody in your face.

37:33 All right.

37:33 Since then, they coagulated.

37:35 And since then, he's had one interception, seven touchdowns, and only two sacks. So I'm sitting here saying Drake May and this offense is getting on the railroad. They're getting on the tracks because the offensive line is coming together.

37:48 Yeah.

37:48 They're clotting.

37:49 Yes.

37:49 That's good.

37:50 Yes.

37:50 I hear coagulate.

37:51 Yeah, coagulate.

37:52 There you go.

37:53 Stop the bleeding. All right, let's go to the NFC where Jordan Love threw the ball all over the field against the Bears. The second touchdown pass was a call that Matt LaFleur has actually admitted. There was a teensy little bit of emotion behind it.

38:07 I was still pissed off from the first play.

38:11 So I was just like, it was a rage call, I guess. You're sitting there third and 22 and you're just, it's like, all right, might as well take another shot. I think we threw, I was at three straight passes down the field we threw one to Christian on the left side then the one to J Mike on the right side and it was just one of those take a shot plays there is not.

38:34 An NFL head coaching soundbite that I have loved more than this one for those who know me off the show like rage is my primary emotion oftentimes.

38:42 So yes I get it coach okay and.

38:44 I respect it this is not a safe place this is live television The Packers now improved to 3-2. So, Manti, do they get your Glenn Dorseman as contenders officially in the NFC?

38:57 No, the Packers do not. And this is why the Packers do not. I love what they did this past week. I like that Coach Floor was able to.

39:06 Have some say in that rivalry.

39:07 But when I look at the Packers, number one, they don't have a run offense.

39:11 They don't have a run defense. And if you don't have those two key things.

39:16 It's hard.

39:17 It's very, very hard to be consistently successful in this league. So unfortunately, right now, the Packers don't have Michael endorsement.

39:25 They don't have my Glenn Dorsmith either. Are we thinking back to that Thursday night football game versus the Atlanta Falcons?

39:33 Yes.

39:35 17 rushing yards.

39:36 17.

39:36 1.9 yards per carry.

39:44 They gave up 242 yards rushing.

39:47 To Bajon Robinson and the Atlanta Falcons. So how can we give them a Glenn Dorsey?

39:52 When they play teams that are formidable, they're going to run the football, they're going to stop the run.

39:57 And Jordan Love threw.

39:58 The ball 53 times that night and it made zero impact. He was under duress the entire night.

40:04 So no Glenn Dorsey for.

40:08 Me.

40:08 You guys, I hate to be on the pity party, but.

40:13 Yes, I am going against them as well.

40:15 Reason being for everything that you two just said. These guys cannot play consistent ball. Throwing the ball a gazillion times a game is not winning football. Yes, there's going to be high risk, high reward like the games like you just had with Christian Watson where he's going out there absolutely balling out. However, there is a higher probability that you're going to turn the ball over. You can't control the time of possession. You can't stop the run.

40:34 So it's very difficult when you're Statistically, analytically, you're.

40:38 Going against the grain.

40:39 They can win some ball games, but until they get this running game going, until that defense represents itself the way it used to, they're going to struggle.

40:46 Packers got the Cowboys, the Lions, the Panthers, the Patriots, and the Vikings before they're by. I throw a challenge flag at that schedule. That is rough and tumble. Glenn Dorseman, we approve. Way to go, coach.

41:02 Gibbs and the starters were in there pretty late in that game when you're up 21.

41:07 I think you had an example from Miami.

41:10 What's the balance there, Dan, of when to know when to pull back on some guys and make sure you keep them.

41:15 Fresh for the duration?

41:16 No, look, I'm with you.

41:19 So you're telling me that we created an entire segment on the show about a different head coach doing dancing and challenge flag, and we couldn't do that?

41:24 That's what we needed right there. That's their question.

41:27 Tomorrow, just what makes you want to put your forehead on a microphone and not answer any of the questions?

41:33 Yes, there's a Glenn Dorseman right there.

41:35 We should have had AG with the dancing, and if you didn't agree, do the Dan Campbell with the microphone.

41:40 That's a different kind of microphone. shot fired at the producer.

41:44 Dan Campbell he misses Aaron Glenn and.

41:47 Oh yeah Ben Johnson misses everybody over there right now it's okay though you're gonna be okay why.

41:53 Was he I honestly why was he so flustered by that question he can't do anything right is that his response.

41:58 Frustration station just there's overload it's just the pot boileth over that's what it was.

42:02 Yeah the pot boileth over for Jameer Gibbs right now boy that boy is running crazy he is doing crazy things offensively this year him and Bijon right now are on a pace to do some magical things the Hot boiling.

42:12 Over for the guys who designed those t-shirts for the Lions. Orgasm. The Detroit Hunting Club? I'm going to need that.

42:18 You always find a way to get those.

42:20 Look at them!

42:21 Oh, that's a sweet shirt!

42:23 Look at that.

42:23 You a double X. Extra medium.

42:27 Everybody say your shirt size.

42:28 Just don't bite any kneecaps, Dan.