GMFB Wednesday Hour 1: Seahawks/49ers trades, QB rosters, and Trick Plays

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0:24 Yeah, that's right. Good morning, football. It is on a Wednesday, everybody. We are presented by Old Trapper Beef Jerky, October 28th. Jamie Erdahl, Mance Iteo, Isaac Rochelle at the breakfast table here in Los Angeles. Kyle Brandt just tapping his knee, jiggling his pen on the table.

0:38 You know why?

0:38 He's antsy. You know why? Because there's news happening in the NFL. We are weeks away from a trade deadline, and there's already some action. So with that, NFL Network insider Mike Garofalo joining us today to start the conversation. Mike, gee, the Colts were busy on a Tuesday after firing their GM last week, losing to the Vikings on Sunday. Now they are sending guys out of the building. Fill us in on a couple trades, would you?

1:01 Now, listen, in two weeks when we get to the trade deadline and on the last day, maybe there's not fireworks. I don't want to hear everybody say, oh, bummer of a trade deadline, because this counts right now.

1:10 The Colts getting a jump.

1:11 Here on a Tuesday when it's in between the weekend that just passed and before you start the week as a work week.

1:19 Quentin Nelson going from the Colts.

1:22 To the Seahawks the all pro guard and one of the dudes that will flat out put you in the ground the Seahawks adding that to their front which gives them a little bit of flexibility plus a proven blocker up front for them a third round pick and a fifth round pick going from Seattle To Indianapolis, last year was a fourth and a fifth when the Seahawks traded for Rashid Shaheed. He had an impact down the stretch.

1:45 Quentin Nelson certainly will have an impact for them.

1:47 Look, I saw something yesterday. Well, the Colts should have gotten more. Look, it's a 30-year-old guard. He's still got plenty of football.

1:54 Left, but it's not like he's as early in his career as, let's say, Sauce Gardner last year. And he's on an expiring contract. And from Indianapolis' standpoint... If you lose them via free agency in the spring, you're going to get a compensatory pick of a third rounder.

2:09 That's not coming till 2028. So via this trade, they now got that pick moved up a year.

2:14 That's the perspective that the Colts have. And it's been a disappointing season for them. So they're saying, let's get some value here and let's get some value in return. Interim general manager Ed Dodds was in Seattle working under John Schneider, now makes a deal with his former boss. Speaking of reunions and former bosses, DeForest Buckner heading.

2:32 From the Colts to the 49ers.

2:34 As the Colts say, hey, let's get as much as we possibly can for two cornerstones. One on offense, one on defense. A reunion here for Buckner with his former teammates. We saw Debo Samuel go back to San Francisco. Now DeForest Buckner going back to San Francisco. A defense that really needs to find ways to generate pressure with their front four.

2:54 This will do it.

2:55 You want to know why?

2:56 Because DeForest Buckner with four sacks As soon as he got traded to San Francisco, became the leading sacker on the.

3:01 San Francisco 49ers team.

3:03 So the familiarity and also what he's able to do at this point in his career. Our colleague Adam Schefter at ESPN quickly pointed out that the Colts would have only gotten a fifth round.

3:13 Pick as a compensatory pick.

3:14 And again, not till 2028, they get themselves a 2027-4 via this trade.

3:19 Mike G, you're really carrying the water for the insiders today. You're like, listen, two weeks in advance. I don't want to hear any heat about this trade deadline because these are big moves by the Colts. Thank you, Mike. We'll talk to you in a little bit. Let's check in on both sides of this, specifically with the Seahawks. They receive a big-time player that will help their offense. And this was the fourth consecutive year that general manager John Schneider has made a midseason move like this. Seattle continues to show that they commit not only in the offseason but also in October. So, Manceye, what do you make of this trade and what it does for the Seahawks?

3:49 And man, what a great addition for the Seattle Seahawks. You get one of the best offensive linemen, especially at the guard position. And when I'm looking at Quinton Nielsen, he's one of those old school brawler type of guys. Like this is somebody that you bring in to kind of fit into what you're trying to build. Over there on the offensive line, you have Zabel on the other side now. I think they're moving him to right guard where he played in college.

4:10 And look at this guy. Look at how he plays, man. Like, this is what you want.

4:14 I remember when the Seattle Seahawks traded a guy named Max Unger to the New Orleans Saints.

4:20 He was the center.

4:21 This is the same type of thing. This is a guy that you can really rally behind. And what I love about it is there's a lot of questions as to what's going on with this run game for the Seattle Seahawks. And there are people talking about, well, they used to trade.

4:32 For a running back.

4:33 Well, John Schneider says, why would I trade for a.

4:35 Running back when I can just plow a big old hole in whatever.

4:39 D-line that we're going up against when I bring.

4:40 Somebody like Quinton Nelson and Adam to the offensive line that we already have? So it doesn't matter if you have Jadarian back there. It doesn't matter if you have Zach Charbonnet back there now. You could put Phillip Rivers back there and Phillip will be able to get some yardage now that you have this type of offensive line.

4:57 I love what they're doing. I love what they're doing in the division that they're doing it. And again, we're going to talk about the 49ers and what they're doing.

5:03 They did next.

5:04 But this is the.

5:04 Reason why the NFC West is always the.

5:07 Toughest division in all the football is because these general managers know what the heck they're doing. They know what they have and they know what they want to get in order to make this picture and this team and this year a better year.

5:17 Yeah, well, it's also interesting.

5:18 You mentioned, you know, general managers and what they think. Let's not forget, Sam Darnold was sacked in the last three weeks. He was sacked 10 times and he didn't get sacked in the Chiefs game. So really 10 times in two games prior to the Chiefs game. There's some salty wounds, right? You're looking at your team. You're like, hey, we just won a Super Bowl. We don't have forever to figure things out.

5:36 So.

5:36 To me, this is a direct response, so we need to figure something out right now to give Sam Darnold the best opportunity. You also mentioned the running backs. Look, Charbonnet is coming back. Jadarian Price is going to play. We love a Notre Dame guy. Sam Darnold plays really well when he's protected and when his run game is really strong.

5:53 Both those things need to come along.

5:55 And back to the GM, like, They're looking at it on paper saying, what can we do to give Sam Donald the best opportunity? Quentin Nelson gives him that opportunity right now. He's going to immediately come in and be a culture guy. I played with Quentin Nelson multiple years. I saw Quentin Nelson day one coming in Notre Dame.

6:13 He did the 225 bench test as basically a high schooler 30 plus times. We're like, this dude is different. And that's what he's going to bring. He's going to bring intensity. He's crazy in the best possible way. I remember last thing here is I played with a guy named Matt Slauson.

6:26 You probably played with Slauson.

6:27 He might have came after you to the Chargers. But either way, he was an offensive guard that was.

6:32 Just an old head. He was hard-nosed.

6:34 You were kind of scared to talk to him if you were a young guy because he was that intense.

6:38 That's what Quentin Nelson's going to be.

6:39 He's going to be like the nice version of that that really elevates an entire locker room. So I think this is a huge, huge trade for them. I think he's going to immediately make a difference.

6:48 Well, listen, making a difference, let's talk about just the last week for the Seattle Seahawks. A handful of days ago, the world champs were a 500 team who had just lost two games in a row, and Sam Donald was getting criticized left and right, and now it's like, well, we just destroyed the Chiefs, and we got the best guard in football. This, to me, the Nelson acquisition feels like an and-one to what they did against the Chiefs and Kenneth Walker, and it's an and-one, like, on a three-pointer. Like, this is a four-point... play, and it's exactly.

7:18 The kind of move you want them to make.

7:19 This is a rough day for the Rams, I have to tell you, with DeForest going to San Francisco and Nelson going to Seattle. And it's like, we cleared out an entire week when, you know, Miles Garrett went to the Rams. We cleared out an entire month when Aaron Donald retired for the Rams. I think that Quinton Nelson is going to end up meaning more than either of those guys for the L.A.

7:40 Rams. This is a huge, huge deal as the running.

7:43 Backs get healthier, as Sam Donald gets more comfortable, and they get one of the best players in the.

7:47 NFL in any position.

7:48 That is the worst type of foul to make. It's like a great shooter goes up, Kyle, hits the three. He's on his back. It goes in. He's like, and I get to stand there and make this a four-point play. It's a fantastic parallel. and we might see the fruits of the labor here with the Seattle Seahawks because Monday Night Football is back in the Pacific Northwest. They are hosting the Chicago Bears, they being the Seahawks. Is Quentin Nelson just going to mess around and stand up for Sam Darnall on Monday night? That'd be fantastic. Catch this game on the ESPN app and ESPN as well, Monday at 8 p.m.

8:18 Eastern.

8:19 Kyle said this is bad news bears for the Rams, and that is because the 49ers got involved yesterday as well. You just heard it from Mike Garofalo. Now, they have DeForest Buckner, who... If you're a wide receiver on a team and a guy gets traded in and he immediately leads the team and passes caught, you're like, well, I clearly wasn't having a great year. The 49ers went out and got a guy who now leads the 49ers immediately in sacks. You heard Mike G said that. He had the first four years in Indianapolis, and now he comes in Manti and helps the Colts. Excuse me, the Niners.

8:46 What is the forest you for these man?

8:48 You look at this defense under Raheem Morris and you understand what they want to do. This young defense has been really really good. There are two parts of their game to have they that they've struggled with a little bit. Number one is a pass rush. Obviously, you don't have Bosa in there. So that's kind of hurt them a little bit. But when I watch the San Francisco 49ers defense, This O-line is moving fast up to Fred Warner and Dre Greenlaw right now. They're not really staying at the D-linemen.

9:15 And that has a lot to do with those interior guys. Now that you have somebody like DeForest Buckner, who's not only a really good pass rusher, but he's a.

9:24 Train wreck when it comes to the run game.

9:27 Now those guards and those tackles and that center can't move up to Fred. Now you imagine what that happens when the best.

9:33 Linebacker in all of football... is able to run.

9:36 Sideline to sideline without having any guard in his face.

9:39 That is what this acquisition does for me.

9:41 Also, Raheem Morris doesn't want to blitz. He just wants to rush four guys and let them eat. When you have someone like DeForest Buckner that's rushing over a guard and you can move him over the center, you can move him everywhere, now he can be comfortable.

9:55 Just dropping seven. And we've seen what that secondary can do with.

9:59 Those safeties, like with Mustafa and all of.

10:01 Those guys, being able to wreak havoc in the second.

10:05 This is such another one of those additions that it just makes perfect sense for a team that's trying to find some stability on the interior part of their D-line, and you grab somebody that's been there before that you drafted. Now he's coming back home, and I hope DeForest, he gets one of them pushes for the championship because he deserves it.

10:22 He does deserve it. Look, DeForest is different.

10:24 When I signed with the Indianapolis Colts and I got there and I saw DeForest play, I haven't been as impressed with anybody as I was with him because people don't understand how big he is. Because the way he moves, even him on the field, everybody's big. He kind of just looks like this athletic, not 6'7, you know, 300-pound guy.

10:42 He moves like he's literally 6'3, 270. He's such a beast. But this is the big thing for me. DeForest Buckner has always been good. The minute he came in the league, he was good. But right now, the 49ers are getting a very matured version of DeForest.

10:55 Buckner, who is hungry.

10:56 I mean, you guys saw him in the media come out and say, hey, I'm at my wit's end.

11:00 With this situation.

11:01 When players at his caliber come to that point in their career where they're saying that... Whoever gets him next is getting a hungry player, and that's where they're getting DeForest. The other thing about DeForest, like I said, I played with this guy. DeForest brings a, basically, like a let's become a close team energy to a team, right? He's your guy in the group chat who's saying, guys, what are we doing? What are we doing after the game?

11:24 He's an oos. He's in Oos. Literally.

11:26 What are we doing on a Tuesday off there? We're going to come in and watch film. What time are you guys working out? Let's do the morning session workout. That's who he is, and that's what he's going to bring to the 49ers team. We know who he is as a player, but any time you have a team like this that can get that little extra bit of bring the team together energy, it's a game changer.

11:43 Yeah, and I agree with what you're saying.

11:45 Like, if you've been watching DeForest over the last few weeks, he has this thing where he stands in front of his locker after another Colts loss, and it's hard to watch. I mean, he's just not even trying to hide how frustrated he is, how miserable he is. And now not only do they move him, they move him back home.

11:58 It kind of reminds me in a way of... Remember when Salah was just running the defense with the Niners and destroying everybody? Goes to the Jets for a little while, goes terribly, and then he came back, and he's like, it was just right back at home, and he started dominating again. It reminds me like that.

12:13 As a player.

12:13 And again, I would say this, like... It's bad for the Rams. And why do I keep mentioning the Rams? Because they were the favorite going into this thing, and they've struggled already, and their division is getting better as the year goes on.

12:24 Think about the Niners' D-line.

12:26 So when they're all right, they're going to have Keon White, who's really talented, Odigizua, who's really talented, Buckner, and Bosa.

12:33 Like, that's their front four.

12:35 That's nasty.

12:36 That maybe is the best front four in the NFL.

12:39 And you can put a healthy Garrett and Donald out there, and we can have that conversation, too.

12:43 We're having, like, we as a show here in.

12:45 The opening block are just having, like, a good old-fashioned hype-off about who's better, Quentin Nelson or DeForest Buckner. And the best part is, guys, in Week 12, we may get to see it, because the two of them.

12:53 Are going to go against each other.

12:54 Yes!

12:55 Which they would know all too well. Isaac, it's great. Now they have Kittle on the one side on offense for the 49ers, who's like the big group check guy. You just have to assume. And now you've got DeForest on the defensive side. It's a good call.

13:05 You need a group check.

13:06 You need a group check. You need a pro group check guy.

13:08 Right, Kyle?

13:09 You need the guy that brings everybody together and likes to hang outside the practice field and outside the locker room.

13:14 Yes, does the dirty jokes appropriately, makes fun of the coaches appropriately.

13:18 They can. You know what?

13:19 You need that guy.

13:20 That's the leader.

13:20 That's why you have the C on your chest.

13:21 Yeah, exactly.

13:23 All right.

13:23 Who is that in the Lions locker room? Now I just want to find out all 32 where this works. Coming up on GMFB, we're going to talk Lions Vikings this weekend. Dan Campbell likes his team's chances in the division, but specifically when he's on fourth and one from his own 24, you already know where this guy's head is at, but it's worth a discussion all the same. Kyle, what else we got?

13:42 Undefeated segment whiteboard wednesday it's wednesday we have whiteboards we'll do it as we've always done it but today we do it on all right think about quarterback rooms not just the starter but every quarterback in that room for that team the giants have a fascinating one who is your favorite quarterback room in the league what's the one you would want to hang out with that's just one of the questions we're going to ask on whiteboard wednesday stay with us.

14:14 Good morning football okay a couple of whiteboards and i'm sure a blank piece of paper for kyle brant in new york city it's whiteboard wednesday time three giants quarterbacks have started a game this season jackson jamis and jj they've all gotten a win which is great for john harbaugh they're also all first round draft picks who seem to understand as a group that their egos need to be checked at the door.

14:36 Yeah it's a really good room i would say it's a probably one of the stronger ones in the league i mean jamis has started six games over two years for us five five of those games he had you know we had the lead or a tie in the fourth quarter um other than new orleans game was the only game that we didn't have a lead or a tie in the fourth quarter you know the two young guys with jackson and and jj that you know both talented players i mean it's a good position to be in it's a good position to be in and hopefully jj and jamis can stay healthy throughout the rest of this year and um You know, JJ can continue to play at a high level. He did a really good job on Sunday. I was impressed with how we played.

15:11 Joe, you've got to drop the shoulders a little bit, man. You're leading the division. Let's go, Joe.

15:15 Tight there.

15:15 All right. Relax the trap.

15:18 We love the Giants, GM. Joe Shane believes his quarterback room is one of the strongest in the league. But I ask you guys this. Who is your favorite quarterback room so far this season?

15:27 I agree with Joe. I'm going New York.

15:29 Right back there.

15:29 I'm going to stay right there. I'm going to get us on a fairway, guys. Jackson Dart.

15:32 One thing I love about Jackson Dart is his maturity that he's shown this year.

15:36 Being a team player, being a leader on that team.

15:39 And then he goes down. We all know Jameis.

15:42 I would hang out with Jameis on the football. Football field, I'd hang out with Jameis in a meeting room. I would hang out with Jameis at Disneyland. He's one of those guys that he's just very, he has this infectious energy about him, and he's just always optimistic.

15:54 I would just love to, and then J.J.

15:55 McCarthy.

15:56 One thing I did notice about J.J. McCarthy is I did see his post-game locker room speech, Jamie. And it's just somebody who's very appreciative of his opportunity. And then it all comes together where they're celebrating each other. I mean, Jameis had a little quarterback sneak from the one. I think he played like four or five plays last week, and he did the duck-duck goose. Like, that's just something I would want to be a part of, and so I'm just going to get us on a fair way, guys.

16:19 If there's a favorite quarterback room for me this season, it's got to be the New York Giants, Isaac.

16:23 Dude, the Disney reference is so funny because there's definitely a type of person I don't want to be at Disney with.

16:28 Like, you're like, bro, actually.

16:30 No, no, I'm saying I'd be great with Jameis, but there is a distinction. Like, I don't need to be rushed from ride to ride or like, don't tell me what to do. I can handle my own Disney experience.

16:37 All right.

16:38 My favorite QB room. I wanted to go with like the practical answer.

16:41 I'm going with the Raiders.

16:42 Okay.

16:43 Cause this is what I picture when I think about the Raiders. I picture Mendoza and Kirk like pointing at each other being.

16:48 Like, no, you, no, you got it. No, you got it. No, you start. You start.

16:52 Like, I just feel like they're two super nice guys that just care about each other a ton. I also, when you actually look at it from a practical standpoint, it's hard to find a backup quarterback that could be Kirk or could be Mendoza that will be as excited and energetic about being a backup and helping out.

17:09 There's no other room in the NFL that's like that.

17:12 That's why before the season started, I was like, start Mendoza. You're not going to have a better backup quarterback than Kirk. What other quarterback at his caliber would just be like, yeah, I'm hype about it. He came on the media and he was like, look, if I'm not the guy, I will happily, I will tell the coach, I don't want to start anymore because I'm not the guy. I don't know where else you're going to get that. It's interesting.

17:31 And I just picture the Spider-Man meme like, no, no.

17:33 You got it. No, you got it. No, you got it. That's true.

17:37 They're going to be standing there until December doing that.

17:41 For some reason, all of us should go to Disneyland. We all have opinions about Disneyland.

17:44 We all have thoughts on Disneyland.

17:46 I'm not sure I'd want to go to Disneyland with you.

17:49 No, I would.

17:50 Oh, sure, Jamie.

17:51 Jamie, I know how you get down. Oh, no, I'm a huge Disney guy.

17:55 KB goes with the tour guide.

17:59 We want to draft.

17:59 Out the tour guide.

18:01 Yeah, we want to draft out the tour guide, KB.

18:03 I am the tour guide.

18:05 If you guys want a convenient and delicious quick service food at Disneyland, we go to California Adventure. You go by the Jumpin' Jellies and Goofy Sky School, and they got corn dogs.

18:13 It works fast, and they're delicious.

18:14 Trust me.

18:15 Jamie, I'll take care of you. I love it. My favorite quarterback room for several reasons.

18:21 The Steelers. All right.

18:22 And I basically put this up just so everybody is talking about this. If you've seen Peaky Blinders or you haven't, we're days into this thing now.

18:29 They go to France.

18:30 They show up dressed as Tommy Shelby.

18:32 Buy all the Peaky Blinders.

18:35 The problem is that show takes place exclusively in England.

18:38 Like, it's not a French show.

18:40 And it's like they just ran through that stop sign and said, screw it, we're dressing.

18:44 Up as someone who takes place in England even though we're in France.

18:48 It's like if an English soccer team came to play a game in California.

18:53 and dressed up as the Sopranos. It's like it doesn't even make any sense.

18:58 But I still haven't even heard from any of these guys what the explanation or the answer to that query is about why did you do Peaky Blinders for a game in France?

19:07 Now, I know that Tommy Shelby fought.

19:09 In World War I, which in France, I think in part, but like that's nothing of what they're doing.

19:13 They look great. I do like the show.

19:15 I just would love the definitive answer of why did you do that in France?

19:19 It doesn't make sense, but it makes me love them even more that they don't care.

19:22 Kyle, you're much better at this than I am. I could not come up with anything off the top of my head that implies mainstream television movie success of a show or movie in France that they could have drawn from. So I guess we're just going with the across the pond concept.

19:37 Was it Emily in Paris?

19:38 Yeah, I mean, sure, but I don't know if that specific wardrobe department would track for NFL arrival at an international game.

19:47 Probably not.

19:48 All right, so as Kyle mentioned, it's Halloween week, and football fans have been treated to some trickery this season on the field. Have you noticed the frequency of hook and ladder or hook and lateral plays? It's picked up. You started in week three with Mike Evans, Debo Samuel. And now the Cardinals have picked up the back end of this. They've got things up their sleeve as well in their playbook. Now, here's Mike LaFleur trying to explain how they got themselves into the situation and why the logic was sound to run this on a fourth down play.

20:15 If it's fourth and nine, your playbook's a little bit more open right there. You kick it, it's 58 yards. That's not a chip shot, you know, and so we just thought that was the right deal to go for right there.

20:28 He called the play, got the zero.

20:30 I I thought it was kind of a dream, and I just, again, the clarity of what we needed to do to execute that play. I thought that was going to end up walking in for a touchdown, and it didn't. So we've got to clean up the details, and that starts with coaching.

20:44 All right, draw it up on your whiteboards.

20:46 I'm trying.

20:47 I'm trying. Who doesn't love a trick play? What's your all-time favorite trick play, Manti?

20:52 Well, I'm going to go week seven of 2014. The then St. Louis Rams was playing the Seattle Seahawks. And then they have a guy named Tavon Austin. It was a punt return where Tavon Austin, he acted like the punt was going to their left. But then you had Stedman Bailey. He's at the top of the screen right here.

21:08 Stedman Bailey peels off, catches the ball. They fool the entire punt team of the Seattle Seahawks. And Stedman Bailey returns this thing for a touchdown.

21:18 The St.

21:18 Louis Rams that year were known for.

21:19 A lot of trickery with their punter.

21:22 Throwing the ball and all of that.

21:23 But this is something that I remember when we saw this play, we tried to do it ourselves.

21:28 So oftentimes you'll get a beat.

21:30 On a punter where he.

21:31 Wants to punt the ball.

21:32 But because Tavon Austin was such a feared returner, they knew that he was going to put the ball to their right. They said, listen, when we know he's going to put the ball to the right, Tavon Austin, act like it's going to the left. And it's like blind cattle. It's like blind sheep. All the punters, the defenders are running to where Tavon Austin is. And Stedman basically peels off and catches the ball and runs 98 yards or something for the touchdown. That's one of my all-time favorite trick plays. And the Rams that year were known for many of.

21:59 Them, Isaac.

22:00 Good one, man. I love it.

22:01 I've got a better one now. Okay, all right. I love competition. All right, look, this is the fridge, right? Yeah, it's pretty self-explanatory. Look, this was not a trick play, but when you're in the Super Bowl and you're game planning who's going to run the ball, in no circumstance are you thinking that William.

22:20 The Fridge Perry is going to run you over.

22:22 It's a score.

22:23 I mean, this is the craziest thing in the world. First off, I look this up. There were only 15 players in the NFL in 1985 that were over 300 pounds.

22:31 That's first off.

22:32 Second off, when you're game planning, like I said, you're not thinking he's going to get the ball. I looked up, you know, this the gentleman's name who got ran over Larry McGrew.

22:42 Hey, Larry McGrew on the Patriots.

22:45 It was not on his bingo card to get ran over by this guy. So that's why I'm considering this a trick play. You're not lining up being like, oh, they're going to give the ball to the fridge to run me over, and I'm going to be on a forever highlight tape.

22:54 So, yeah, this is my trick play.

22:55 I mean, he is standing in the backfield, so you're like, maybe it could happen, but I definitely can take him. It's probably like your next thought, and you definitely can't. You definitely cannot.

23:03 This is a Super Bowl.

23:04 How many times do you get to go to a Super Bowl, let alone have to get ran over by the fridge?

23:09 I know you've got takes on this play.

23:11 Bow well a couple things he's standing right in front of the greatest running back of all time who doesn't get the ball and who the late mike dick of regrets not giving the ball this will really blow your mind isaac william refrigerator perry that season also caught a touchdown pass at the goal line and if you think that's not enough they tried to have him throw a touchdown pass at the goal line and.

23:30 It didn't work out Crazy.

23:32 He was doing everything that year, and he was a rookie. That is a rookie defensive tackle, and that was part of what made the 85 Bears absolutely magic. Jamie, for my answer, my kids make fun of my handwriting, and they say they can't read it, but I'm going to hold up my answer, and I want you to read it, okay?

23:48 Okay. My favorite trick play of all time.

23:49 Jamie, read this.

23:51 The Goat, A.J. Trapasso.

23:53 Roll it.

23:54 If you don't know AJ Trapasso, school up on this. This is the greatest fake punt these eyes have ever seen. This is a preseason Titans highlight, okay? The Titans are wearing these weird blue jerseys. You don't maybe recognize them. Wait till you get the close-up shot of how AJ Trapasso handled this ball. It's a preseason punt. All right, the run is great, but what he's going to do is go with that oiler rig on his helmet. He's going to catch the ball, put it around his back, fake the kick. Now he's in the open field. He's going to put his foot in the ground and make a move and cut inside.

24:26 Again, this is not some playoff game. It's a regular season game. The Jeff Fisher Titans are like, screw it.

24:32 Let's try.

24:33 Why didn't they save this for the season? It's so beautiful.

24:37 Jason McCourty was on the team for this. He says it was one of the coolest things he had ever seen. It's a great play. I encourage everybody to know it. I'm not terribly well-schooled in what became of AJ Trapasso. I don't know if he had a long career or not, but this play where he just puts that sucker around his.

24:51 Back and takes off, I've always loved it. We run it about once a year on Good Morning Football.

24:55 The GOAT, AJ Trapasso.

24:57 Kyle, you guys probably didn't have this issue, but I remember trying to palm a basketball so badly. Like, I wanted my hands to... I wanted to grow up so badly because I wanted to palm a basketball. Do you know the guts it takes to be able to behind the back of football mid-snap and be like, no, this thing is definitely not going to slip out of my hand as I, like, windmill this thing and take off simultaneously?

25:17 Smooth.

25:18 That's crazy hand strength. Kyle, great handwriting. I was worried it wasn't... Very legible. Very legible.

25:24 Exactly.

25:24 I don't know what they're talking about.

25:26 Yeah. Yeah.

25:27 They can't read anymore.

25:29 It's not on screen.

25:31 I thought you were going to hit me with a cursive. Like, give me something hard at least.

25:34 No, I can do that next.

25:35 All right, I'll do it next.

25:36 Do it, do it, do it.

25:37 Okay, good.

25:38 Do it.

25:38 All right, KB, what are the chances that you were watching a play that we're about to show 25 years ago today that happened at Soldier Field? All right, this is a memorable play between Mike Brown, made on that Sunday, and again the following week against the Browns.

25:53 I was there.

25:53 You were there? Okay, let's watch it, and then I.

25:55 Want to hear the story.

25:56 I was at the game. Okay.

25:58 Three wide receivers set.

25:59 Easily in motion.

26:01 And Garcia's pass is bobbled by Owens. Intercepted by Brown.

26:07 Mike Brown into the end zone.

26:11 Wins it in overtime for the Bears.

26:21 Couch out of the shotgun.

26:22 That's batted into the air.

26:23 Intercepted and the.

26:24 Bears are going to win it.

26:27 Mike Brown has done it again.

26:29 Brian Robinson appeared to get a hand on the football.

26:35 And Mike Brown, the.

26:37 Hero a week ago, does it on consecutive Sundays.

26:43 That's mind-boggling. Kyle, were you at both?

26:46 No, I was at the first one, the San Francisco one, where Terrell Owens was dominating the Bears.

26:50 It was a great, great game. Jeff Garcia, 49ers. And Mike Brown walks it off two weeks in a row.

26:55 It was the.

26:56 0-1 Bears, my favorite Bears team of this generation, 13-3.

26:58 They ended up losing to McNabb in the playoffs, but Jim Miller was the quarterback. Really good defense, young Urlacher. Mike Brown would have been one of the all-time Bears greats. He ran into a lot of injuries, but an awesome, awesome player out of Nebraska.

27:11 Back-to-back pick sixes to finish games in overtime. Crazy set. You guys must have something that you did last week that you thought was so great that you'd love to run it back this week. What's a repeat performance, Manti, that you need in your own life this.

27:23 Week, last week?

27:24 Well, this is so fitting for what we were talking about earlier in this segment. So last week, my whole family came down to California and we went to Disneyland, right?

27:31 And so.

27:32 At Disneyland, there's a few places. You got to get that French, that garlic cheesy bread over there at Marisa's Treats. You got to get the fried chicken bao bun at Docking Bay 7.

27:41 But on Tiana's Bayou.

27:43 Which is if OGs like myself, it's Splash Mountain, the old Splash Mountain. If you've been on that ride and you're on this log- You're gonna get wet, okay? So what my wife and I did was we not only got the ponchos, but then we got these cover, these shoe cover things. That was the best thing ever because everybody else got wet on this ride on that little log and we were just dry the entire time. So if I could do it again with my family, I would love to do that. I had all my siblings, all my nieces, my nephews, my parents were there, that was awesome. But to be able to have these little hacks on our Disneyland shenanigans, I would do it again this week.

28:16 There you go.

28:17 I love it.

28:17 You got a picture.

28:20 Disneyland brings out the best in us. Unless you're with the wrong person.

28:23 Double down on that.

28:25 Kyle, I'll go with you.

28:27 Last week, for those of you who may or may not know, my wife's on social media. She puts up the camera and she's like, Isaac, come be in this video with me.

28:35 She starts to open up a package.

28:37 It's Halloween costumes, okay? So last week I tried my Halloween costume. One thing that I did last week that I'm going to do this week, because I don't have a choice, is wear my Halloween costume.

28:45 That's me with a sequins shirt on. Look at this.

28:49 And this is my daughter. She's saying yay. So I don't even, I'm Triton, I guess, from Ariel.

28:54 Sure, yeah.

28:55 Listen, I'm 6'5, 255 pounds.

28:55 I don't need to be wearing a sequins shirt. I don't know.

29:00 There's a height and weight limit to that. In my mind, at least for me, in my household, whatever, I'm not wearing it. But my daughter, everywhere that we've gone, she's been like, Daddy, wear your costume.

29:09 Wear your costume. I'm like, we're not going to.

29:12 Whole Foods with me in a sequined shirt like this.

29:16 Either way. So I did this last week. We're running it back.

29:18 I don't have a choice this week. We're going to be in New York, actually. And I'm going to be walking around New York with this.

29:22 Not the only person. Actually, perfect place for you to be in a sequined crop top shirt.

29:26 Crop top shirt, yeah.

29:27 Yep.

29:28 Could we actually get a three-act? I like it.

29:31 Yeah, it's a little small.

29:32 Triton also has not aged terribly well. Ariel's 16 in that movie. He's marrying her off to some prince. It's a little weird. He's verbally abusive. It goes weird places when you let those Disney movies stand on the shelf as long as they do.

29:48 Ariel's 16 in the movie.

29:49 Kyle, you know how much shame we feel when you say, when we bring up something, a movie, a show, and Kyle hits us with a So-and-so hasn't aged terribly well. It's happened far too frequently recently on GMFB, and we're just like.

30:01 Dang it.

30:02 The Kyle movie police is out, and Little Mermaid just got axed by Kyle.

30:07 Dang.

30:09 Listen, Triton's spending all his time in the gym getting those gains. He's not spending any time with all his six daughters. He's a single father like they all are in Disney. I may put down the incline press and make sure your daughter's not getting married 16 to some person with legs.

30:21 16?

30:22 She says it in the movie. Daddy, I'm 16 years old. At the end of the film, she is married to an adult.

30:29 What are we doing?

30:31 All right, Jamie, I said I would write my next one in cursive.

30:34 I lied.

30:35 I didn't write it in cursive, but I did write it... Come on, eyes up here. Eyes up. I did write it in a foreign language.

30:41 So, Jamie, read this. This is me last week.

30:44 Oh, that's really good, Jamie.

30:47 Wow, Jamie, that's really good.

30:50 Here's me last week.

30:51 Living my best life.

30:53 Roll the V-O.

30:55 Here we go.

30:56 That's what I was doing.

30:57 Yeah.

30:58 All right, so.

31:00 That's—I got a beret. I got my Wembanyama jersey. Wembanyama, born and raised in the northeast suburbs of France.

31:08 I learned a lot about him.

31:09 His father's 6'6, his mother's 6'3, he's 7'4.

31:13 And, of course, that's the arc du triomphe.

31:16 Who was envisioned by Napoleon, who ordered as built as a testament, a tribute to his army, and then died like three decades before it was even finished. He didn't see squat, although they did have his funeral under there. So that was just like a weird collision of time for me.

31:30 Also, I'm doing the show.

31:31 It's like two thirty in the morning at this point.

31:32 Just bizarre.

31:33 That was me last week. And now I'm sitting in a broom closet in lower Manhattan. Life comes at you fast.

31:38 He really does. You know whose parents were not 6'6 and 6'3? Napoleon's, probably. All right. That was Whiteboard Wednesday, everybody. I thought you were going to say Ariel.

31:47 Exactly.

31:47 All right. Kyle, fish years are different. It's like dog years, okay? So maybe she was actually of age, all right? Because I want to be able to watch a little mermaid without judgment.

31:56 That's interesting. Yeah.

31:59 You got it, Isaac.

32:00 He breaks all.

32:01 Her stuff, all her treasures.

32:02 He breaks them all.

32:15 All right, it's time for What's Your Beef? presented by Old Trapper Beef Jerky. Guys, quick quiz for the class. What is the difference between these two faces that you see right here?

32:24 One looks very happy, one looks determined.

32:27 What is on his cheeks?

32:29 Wow.

32:30 Great observation, I didn't even notice that.

32:32 Well, many people made it on Sunday when JJ McCarthy had his first start for the New York Giants after being traded from the Vikings to the Giants earlier in October. Now, JJ McCarthy made a name for himself with a lot of things coming out of Michigan, going through the draft process by playing his college football games with eye black on. Now, if you don't know JJ, you know he grew up in Illinois, but he actually also grew up in Ohio State, Buckeyes fan. And he received an offer from Ryan Day to play at Ohio State when he was coming out of high school. And allegedly, the college football coach at Ohio State at the time, Ryan Day, said, I'm not going to commit to another quarterback in your class. But

33:07 then he did. And J.J. felt wronged by this. So he rescinded his commitment to Ohio State. And he goes on to play at Michigan while he was at Michigan. He resented Ryan Day and the Ohio State Buckeyes so much that on the games when Michigan would play Ohio State, which is the last Saturday, the Saturday after Thanksgiving in November, he would not wear eye black. He chose to do so because he wanted Ryan Day to look at his eyes.

33:29 And would you look at that?

33:30 J.J.

33:30 McCarthy beat Ohio State every single time he played for Michigan. So when J.J. McCarthy laced him up again for the Giants on Sunday against the Texans, and who's the Texans quarterback, one C.J. Stroud, who played for Ryan Day at Ohio State, He knew a lot of Buckeyes fans would be watching, so he decided he opted out of his eye black so all Buckeyes fans could look him in the eyes as he beat somebody who played for the Buckeyes, even though he says he has no issue with C.J.

33:57 Stroud.

33:57 He's actually a big fan, and they're buddies. But this beef that he has with Ohio State and Ryan Day lives on, and we could see his eyes, J.J. McCarthy, as he got his first win for the Giants.

34:07 That's nice.

34:08 I didn't know that.

34:09 Great job, James.

34:10 Yeah.

34:11 Now that you know if you don't see the eye blacks on it's time for business like JJ McCarthy is all about business.

34:16 Hopefully different.

34:18 He looks different.

34:18 He played different.

34:20 And I'm hoping that that I block I black stays off because if he continues to play like how he played last week. I mean, good things should happen not only for him, but for the Giants.

34:28 So I like it.

34:29 No, I'm almost guaranteeing the eye black is back. Here's the thing about JJ McCarthy that I think is interesting. He's had both Harbaugh brothers as head coaches.

34:36 Yeah.

34:36 I feel like that should be a whole topic in and of itself. But this is giving, like, Tiger Woods right on Sunday's energy.

34:42 Like, he's kind of got his, like.

34:44 I'm going to compete. It's time to get after it. I'm more impressed with you, Jamie, because that's a pretty, that's a deep pull.

34:50 I wouldn't have even known.

34:50 It was, it was a shout out to the local media coverage who made the observation. And then the story was pulled from the locker room and he admitted like when he does do the eye black, he wants it to be like war paint, not look, make it look like Halloween. Sometimes it did. Sometimes it didn't. But JJ, if you're winning like this, just keep it clean.

35:06 Yeah. Yeah.

35:07 When it comes to Michigan people, Jamie knows. Jamie knows Michigan Wolverines. Minnesota Vikings.

35:11 I married into it. Yeah, it'll happen like that. We're going to the Super Bowl. Super Bowl 61, that is.

35:18 Guess what?

35:18 You can too. Here's your shot. Enter for a chance to win four tickets to the game, Super Bowl 61, and a three-night vacation to the Disneyland Resort. so you can watch the Super Bowl champion cavalcade. Scan the QR code on your screen now or visit www.espn.com to learn more. I'm telling you, that's a crew right there going to the Super Bowl, that's for sure. Dan Campbell has never been one too shy away from going for it on fourth down and kind of made a name for himself doing so. But on Sunday against the Packers, he took this example to an extreme. With the game tied at 17 and the ball on his own 24, Campbell went for it and Jameer Gibbs got stuffed from behind the line of scrimmage. in the ultimate effective example of, like,

36:04 what are we doing? They did get bailed out on this, though, and the Packers missed a field goal. So then Monday, Dan Campbell had to stand up and explain his decision that didn't have a bad outcome for the game, but at the time, he was truly puzzled.

36:17 I know what I'm conceding. If you don't get that, I believe we were going to get that. I know what you're conceding, but I also know, without any doubt, any question, we are getting the ball back with plenty of time to answer and rebuttal whatever they've It was really that simple. When you watch six weeks of Jordan Love launching these balls and first downs and first downs and flags and, you know, I wanted to leave it in our hands and take it away from anybody else.

36:51 In the ultimate defense of the decision, too, ESPN Analytics did agree with Dan Campbell's decision at the time because the Lions had a 47% win likelihood against a 40-40% punting decision. Manti, percentages, consequences, conceding on a field goal or a touchdown. What do you sit here now on a Wednesday and we can look back at this thing?

37:11 What do you make of it?

37:12 I love Dan Campbell. I love everything he stands for. I didn't like that call. I thought it was reckless. And there are some times when you watch the Lions play, you'll get away with it sometimes, but more times than not, you won't.

37:27 And there are going to come.

37:27 Those plays in the playoffs. Hopefully they get to the playoffs.

37:31 Where this is going to cost you against a really good football team.

37:33 I also look at this, Isaac.

37:35 If I'm Kelvin Shepard, and I'm the defensive coordinator, if I'm on the defense, this is almost a shot at me. That you knew that if you didn't get it, that Jordan Love was going to score, and I just needed to give Jared Goff some time to respond.

37:50 There's no punt.

37:51 The ball, trust in my defense that we'll get a stop on that side of the football field, and then we'll put Jared Goff on there.

37:57 This type of decision tells me, like, I don't.

37:59 Trust my defense. I trust my offense. I don't trust my defense.

38:03 So regardless if the Packers were to kick a field goal or score a touchdown, I need to give my offense time to respond. And so that's what I take from it. Number one, it's a little reckless, not a little, but really reckless to me. And number two, defensively, I would take it as, dang, my coach doesn't trust me.

38:19 And honestly, I can't blame Dan Campbell for not trusting that defense because they've hurt that offense and that team in more ways than one. Hopefully now that Brian Branch is back, they get back on track to being a really good defense. But right now, that decision may have helped them now, but in the long run, it's not going to help them.

38:37 So that's how I see it.

38:38 Manta, I love you, but I could not disagree with you.

38:40 Good. Because here's the thing.

38:42 It's just like when you go to the casino and 16 shows on Blackjack and you have your standard. Do you hit or do you not hit? He is a hit on 16 guy. If it's fourth and short, he's going to go for it. I would even take it a step further. If I'm an O-line coach, I'm going to my O-line saying, if we can't get a yard in.

38:56 A crucial situation, what are we doing? Yeah.

38:59 Like, if you're Dan Campbell, what are we doing if we can't get a yard?

39:02 Look, he has to go in the media and say this. I get it. He has to take the shots. I get it.

39:06 But the fiber of your team has to be able to get a yard when you're on a 24 and you need it.

39:12 Like, that is just who it is.

39:13 Also, you say you love Dan Campbell. The only reason we love Dan Campbell is because we know he's going to do this. If Dan Campbell was the coach that's always going to take the points or always going to punt the ball, he's not Dan Campbell. Like, this is who he is. I don't want anything else from him.

39:27 So I love that he did this. They still went and won the game and he could talk about it. Like you take the shots and it's chill, but this is who he is hit on 16. That was my thought.

39:36 I like the decision. I hate the play call the single running back in the backfield and you just know that it's going to be Jameer Gibbs and you're handing the ball off five yards back. So it was a one-yard play and now it becomes a five-yard gain.

39:48 Do the tush push.

39:49 Just sneak somebody up. Put Penny Sewell as an eligible receiver for all I care. We just saw the play from 85.

39:55 We saw the fridge.

39:57 Run something like that, Dan.

39:58 I mean, they had Penny running routes earlier in the game. That's what I'm saying.

40:02 No one can stop that guy, all right? We know this. It's important for wide receivers to have great hand-eye coordination, and they have to make split-second decisions as well, and they have to listen. So the Eagles actually may have found a game that helps this out.

40:16 Clip.

40:17 Yellow, green, blue, yellow, pink, blue, orange.

40:20 Red, green, yellow, orange. Pink, blue, yellow, red, orange, blue, green, blue, red. Green, orange, yellow.

40:43 All right, thank you, Makai Lemon and Darius Cooper, for giving us something to do on GMFB. You saw it. The social media content producer is calling out a color. Your brain wants to touch that color. It does. You can't, though. That's the name of the game. And we're going to add an edge because these guys are elite, high-performance athletes.

41:01 You have to touch two colors. If I say brown, Manti's got to go here. If I say yellow, he can't do this because then one of his hands is touching yellow.

41:11 Okay, let's go.

41:11 All right, here we go. We got 90 seconds.

41:12 Okay.

41:14 Orange.

41:15 Oh, my God! Did you see the two? Why did I? Bro, what am I doing? Okay.

41:21 Black.

41:23 Blue.

41:25 Did you lose on that, Isaac?

41:26 I didn't touch it, but I went to. Okay.

41:27 Brown.

41:29 Red.

41:30 Black, orange, yellow, blue.

41:34 Oh, God. What am I doing?

41:37 Okay.

41:40 Orange, yellow, blue.

41:43 Oh, my God.

41:43 Let's go. Okay, let's go. Okay, okay, okay.

41:46 Red, black, yellow, brown.

41:49 Oh, God.

41:50 Oh, my God.

41:51 Oh, my God. No, I'm not giving you a high five.

41:55 You just beat me.

41:57 All right. What are we doing? All right, here we go. Three, two, one, brown, orange, yellow. My gosh. Exactly.

42:05 Let's go, come on, Jimmy.

42:06 Blue, brown, orange. You're getting cooked right now.

42:11 Orange, yellow.

42:13 Shoot.

42:14 Brown, black, orange.

42:17 There we go.

42:18 Man.

42:19 Tie, tie, tie.

42:19 Feel like a DJ. Red. There we go. Not the moderator eating.

42:24 No, I'm like, I'm back.

42:25 I'm back.

42:27 Let's go.

42:28 Yo, that's a fun game. This game kind of stresses me out, honestly.

42:30 Play this at home with your kids.

42:32 Test the colors.

42:33 Test the coordination.

42:34 Test the listening.

42:36 Yeah, go play this with your toddler.

42:38 They're going to be.

42:39 They'd be like, do.

42:40 You have any crayons?

42:41 Can I.

42:41 Yeah, washable markers only at home, okay?

42:44 Yeah. Oh, here we go. Thank you, people. Okay.