Tooth Be Told! | RHOSLC Recap with Monica Garcia

0:03 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

0:36 Hey, Raindrop. It's a great day. It's the.

0:40 Listen, it's my birthday weekend! Aw!

0:46 Mr.

0:46 Carlos King celebrating another motherfucking year on the motherfucking sun, bitches.

0:54 Yes! What are you.

0:57 So listen, go on my Patreon so you can see the glorious of me and Monica.

1:01 Monica looks the fuck good as always.

1:03 You too, Bill. You too, always.

1:06 Well, thank you. Thank you.

1:07 God is good. I'm happy to be celebrating another year.

1:10 Around the world.

1:11 Yes.

1:13 But I'm also celebrating spending it with you. So like, what more could a boy ask for?

1:17 Oh, wish granted.

1:25 Well, one of my birthday wishes only Monica wants to accept is to get Monica back on Salt Lake City, bitch, because we need my girl.

1:33 Oh, thank you.

1:35 I mean, come on.

1:39 Okay.

1:40 I've been dying to talk to you about this.

1:45 Okay.

1:45 Because I can't tell if I'm alone in this or not. Um.

1:54 I am not. I know we're only episode three. Okay. I know we're only episode three and you have.

2:01 A whole season to go and our opinion can change, but I did not. I am not feeling the last two episodes. Now, what are your thoughts? I need to know.

2:15 Am I alone?

2:16 Okay.

2:16 Look, episode one, it has been crazy. revealed that it was, like, one of the highest-rated premieres. Thank you, Mary.

2:24 Mm-hmm.

2:25 Thank you, Mary, which is exactly why I felt so vindicated in saying she should have been center snowflake.

2:30 Mm-hmm.

2:32 Because that was because of her and what she chose to share and.

2:38 Film for the world, really.

2:42 Yeah. Totally.

2:43 Yeah, 100%. So, but what are your thoughts on the last couple?

2:46 What?

2:47 I'm just.

2:48 I'm not... vibing.

2:50 No?

2:51 No, I'm not vibing with it.

2:54 I don't know what it is. It's like the same shit on repeat. I don't know.

3:01 Okay.

3:01 Well, listen, let's get into it because I will say this. Well, I think what would be so interesting is let's do something different. Let's talk about the episode and then at the end, I'll tell you what I thought about it.

3:14 Okay. So that way, it's fascinating because... Okay, so raindrops. We're talking about Salt Lake City. Duh.

3:21 Monica just told you how she felt about this episode. So I'm going to save my commentary until the end.

3:28 Birthday boy gets what he wants.

3:31 You have to stay tuned for that. Yes. Of course.

3:36 Yes.

3:36 Okay. But I will say this. I definitely have some thoughts. Okay. I got some thoughts. Good. And I'm willing to share.

3:45 Yes.

3:46 Please do.

3:47 Yes.

3:47 Please.

3:48 As always, it wouldn't be me if I didn't do that.

3:52 No.

3:52 No, no, no.

3:55 So let's get into it. First of all, speaking of Mary. Yes. Look, the episode opens.

4:01 Up with Mary and Angie. Angie comes over to bring her some orchids. And there's a... First of all, listen.

4:14 There's a picture of Mary... as a mom with Robert Jr. as a kid.

4:23 And Angie placed it on this orchid plant as a gift just to like, you know, cheer her up.

4:32 And Mary immediately was like, take that off. I can't take it. Like, you're gonna make me cry.

4:37 And that moment is when I say to you, I felt so bad for Mary.

4:47 Like, I don't know. And listen, you're a mother.

4:51 And from the two of us, I know that only you can really speak.

4:56 To this, being a parent.

4:59 But it was in that moment that kind of made you, made me realize, like, I don't see how Mary can continue filming this season with this petty bullshit. Not that it's bullshit to the point where it's not interesting. It's more so when you lose a child, I think everything sort of fails in comparison.

5:27 And I even, a moment.

5:29 Like that typically where Angie does something crazy is a moment where you laugh and Mary checks her.

5:35 But in this moment, I just felt, it felt sad to me.

5:39 Yeah, it was.

5:40 Absolutely, I mean, the second Mary opened the door, she was just like, no, no, no, I'm not ready for that.

5:48 I can't do that.

5:49 I'm not ready for pictures yet. I can't do pictures yet. And yeah, I can't imagine. Because look, I will tell you, look, as a mom, you really, you can't imagine, you can't fathom the amount of grief that That includes when you lose a child. Only the people that have gone through that, no. There is nothing like that.

6:20 I think they recovered really quickly. You know, she was like, I got you an orchid. It's your favorite. You know, and she was like, okay, okay. It was a very real friend moment.

6:33 Totally. Very real.

6:34 Like, I appreciate the flowers, but bitch, I'm not ready for that. I'm not ready. It was very candid. It felt, yeah, Mary, yeah, she's so fucking strong.

6:47 I don't even know how she is even filming what she's filming right now that we've seen.

6:52 Yeah, no, she's a trooper. She's a trooper, but she's there. She looks great. She does.

6:57 In this moment, Angie's updating her, what's going on with the girls. And she brings up Ashley and Mary's like, look, bitch, if Ashley is anything like Britney.

7:08 That was so funny. Well, first she was already, I loved it because she was already judging her by her name.

7:15 She's like, Ashley.

7:18 Ashley.

7:19 Like, Britney. Ashley.

7:21 Whitney.

7:22 Like.

7:26 It's so funny.

7:27 Yeah, it's like, I don't need another crazy person in my life right now.

7:31 Like, I just don't need it. I'm not here for it. But Mary makes me laugh. Even in that one moment.

7:36 Of her being in the episode, she just brings so much life to this series.

7:41 So much realness. She's just real, man.

7:43 Yeah.

7:44 She's so real.

7:45 Yeah, no. I can just watch her do anything, honestly. I think she's so interesting. Like, even when she was with the. The woman who was helping her.

7:56 She's like, do it with love. And she's like, that's love?

8:01 Let me do it.

8:02 Let me do it. There's no need for you to be nervous. That poor girl. She's like, yes, ma'am. I'm so scared right now.

8:10 With her N95. Yeah. Got it? Yeah. That was funny to me. So then, Bronwyn, Ashley, and Whitney.

8:20 Okay, wait. I have to ask. Was it in that.

8:25 What, was it in that moment that Angie told Mary about the toothbrush or no?

8:30 Yeah, so this was funny. Okay. What's interesting is this. It's called, well, you know this.

8:35 It's called the intercut of the scene. So they were on.

8:40 Oh, like a pickup scene?

8:41 No, no, no, no.

8:42 It's when they go, when they bounce back and forth from scene to scene.

8:46 Oh, okay.

8:47 Like past, present?

8:48 No, no, no, no. Meaning, okay.

8:50 So like you saw Mary and Angie first. And then you saw Bronwyn, Ashley, and Whitney. Then you go back to Mary and Angie.

9:00 Okay. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

9:03 That go back and forth like that, we call that intercut. So in the toothbrush moment, which I can't wait to get to with that. So Bronwyn, Ashley, and Whitney, as Mary and Angie are talking, they then show us what Bronwyn.

9:17 Ashley, and Whitney are doing in that moment. Yes.

9:20 Ashley wants the girls to know that Look, Lisa is my friend.

9:25 Like, that's my girl. Because Bron was like, look, I'm.

9:27 Going to make it clear.

9:28 Bron came in hot. I was like, what? What did I miss? I don't even really know. Did I miss that.

9:35 Or forget from last season? Like, she was like, I don't like Lisa. I don't like people that like Lisa. I don't like people that are friends with Lisa, pretty much. Like, that's not my, like, kind of person.

9:48 Did I miss something? Where is there?

9:49 It's funny because.

9:53 I had to remind myself like, okay, what did Lisa do at the reunion? Because obviously, the reunion is the last time the girls are together as a collective but with.

10:04 This group yeah they're not really friends stop it quit playing with me stop Lisa and Meredith yes and guess what they've been photographed together a shit ton outside of filming.

10:23 Okay.

10:23 So yeah, the reunion was the last time they saw each other.

10:26 Yeah.

10:26 It's a group about friends, Carlos.

10:32 I can't with you. So the thing is this. I don't remember Lisa.

10:41 Doing anything to Bronwyn that would cause her to be like, like you said, I'm not fucking with her.

10:46 I don't fuck with people who fuck with her. And she was coming off a little bit.

10:52 She was hot. She was like, yeah.

10:55 And I was like, did I miss something?

10:57 Because where did this come from so heated from her? Yeah, it was weird.

11:02 It was weird. What was also weird was, okay.

11:05 So Ashley is telling Whitney, who is her friend, courtesy of.

11:13 Ashley's sister.

11:15 No, sister-in-law.

11:17 Sister, sorry, thank you. Ashley's sister-in-law. Yes. Who this is.

11:22 Yes.

11:22 That was Whitney's best friend.

11:24 Yes.

11:25 And that's how they all know each other. Yes.

11:28 Okay.

11:28 Yeah. So in this moment, we know that like we knew the first episode.

11:34 Okay. They're really friends. So then she's telling Bronwyn and Whitney how she feels about the other girls.

11:43 So she talks about Heather and how Heather had her finger pointed across the table and And she was like, oh, Diablo, which I don't, what did that mean?

11:53 I don't.

11:54 So I guess, okay. So I'm glad she clarified it in the end of the episode.

11:59 Right.

12:00 She said it was like a Taco Bell hot sauce and it's not even that hot. So maybe she was trying to say like spicy, like maybe it was like Heather's being spicy.

12:10 Heather's a spicy moment, but.

12:12 That got translated into the game of telephone of diabolical, which is also extremely applicable. So she's a Diablo-diabolical human. Like, both apply. I mean, even Heather admitted it. She was like, yeah, some of these words.

12:34 I'm like, listen, if you said diabolical, I would have been like, you're not wrong based on what I've been watching as a viewer.

12:43 Yeah.

12:44 She says Diablo.

12:46 I guess she said Diablo.

12:47 Yeah, which... She says Diablo, right?

12:50 Yeah. And then she talks about Angie, how Angie pretty much told her, like, girl, you're new here, which always makes.

12:58 I hate when... I was going to say the same thing. It fascinates me that when the new, new, new girl, right? Like, you're two years new. I don't like it when a season one or two or three girl tries to... diss the.

13:14 New girl by saying you're new.

13:17 It was like, well, bitch, you were new two years ago.

13:21 That's why, like, when Angie would give me shit, like, you've only, you've been a housewife for one season. It was like, bitch, so have you. No, but I've been here, and I'm like, yeah, you were a friend of for three years.

13:33 Like, I know.

13:34 But, like, you can't use that. Like, this is your first season as a housewife, too. Like, I hate when they do that. I hate it. And Salt Lake, I feel like, is, I mean, they haze like no other, man.

13:50 Oh, baby.

13:51 And we're seeing it. And that's why even the way... And we'll get to this later, too. But even the way Bronwyn was treating Ashley.

13:58 I wanted to jump through my TV screen. I'm like, this is why I'm not there. This is why the fuck I'm not there. And I wonder... It's almost to the point where it was so quiet when she said that, that I'm like, did they cut something out?

14:14 How did nobody say anything? You know what I mean? Because she's like. You've been here for one minute. Like, I would have gone off. So I'm like, nobody said anything? Like, or was something cut?

14:29 I don't know. Could have been. Could have been. I actually agree with you. It definitely could have been.

14:35 So even as Bronwyn is getting to know Ashley in this moment, number one, she's telling her, your friend Lisa is not my friend, and I'm very.

14:44 Cautious of her. Yeah. And then.

14:47 This is the moment that made me holler because Whitney then whispers to Ashley, is it okay if I tell them something you did?

14:58 And she's like, oh no, don't say it.

15:01 Then they cut to Angie telling Mary that Ashley took her then-fiance, now husband's toothbrush, and rimmed it across the toilet bowl and put it back in the bathroom for him to use it.

15:23 Now, that to me is diabolical.

15:29 I have no one to talk to about this.

15:32 I have been dying to talk to you because I swear to you, Carlos, I've been broken up for with less. Like, I'm like, wait, if I did that, everyone would be trying to put me in a mental institution right now if that was me on the show. And I like, literally, I'm not even kidding. And you know, it's true. Can you imagine if I admitted to doing that?

15:56 But she did a little straitjacket tease.

15:59 It's, it's, it's, I, okay. Let me ask you this.

16:04 If you found out because he married her still after that.

16:09 Yes.

16:10 If you found out that your fiance did that, are you still marrying them?

16:15 No. And I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you why.

16:21 It will, okay, based on what, okay, so let's fast forward a little bit to the middle to end of the episode. Based on the reason why Ashley did this. By the way, I don't believe you.

16:36 I don't believe the story.

16:37 Oh, you don't think it happened?

16:39 No, no, no, no, no, no.

16:41 I think it happened. I don't think the reason why she did it is true. Ashley alleged that she found.

16:50 Out through her husband's phone that his male.

16:57 At the time, her fiance's phone, that his male friend was texting him things about another woman.

17:05 Like trying to hook him up with another girl.

17:08 It's always the fucking best friend. I tell you... Let me keep my mouth shut. Let me keep my mouth shut.

17:16 Let me.

17:16 Okay, go ahead.

17:18 Go ahead.

17:19 Yes, trying to set him up with another woman, motherfucker. Anyways.

17:25 Wait till that happens?

17:27 That absolutely fucking happens.

17:29 So the story could be true? I didn't believe the story, Monica. No, that happens. 100%. Okay, the reason why I didn't believe the story, because I said.

17:40 If you did that based off of something his friend did, that made no sense to me why you would do that to your fiancé. Your fiancé, then, to me, is kind of innocent.

17:49 Yeah, she should have done it to the friend.

17:52 To the friend, but not to the fiancé.

17:54 No.

17:55 Well, unless we don't know.

17:58 Maybe the fiancé' s text messages were.

18:02 Like, oh, hell yeah. I mean, we don't know what the text messages said.

18:10 This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

18:14 Let's get back into the show. Well, this is where I'm getting at.

18:19 Okay.

18:23 If my fiance did that to me, I would think you are diabolically crazy. And if you could do that based upon me being that innocent in the sense that my friend did and not me, If I do something bad because I'm a human and may make a mistake, I'm afraid what the fuck you might do to.

18:45 Me in terms of my safety.

18:48 Ooh!

18:51 That would have been me. There's nothing... I mean, I would have been like, bitch, bye. You're crazy to do that.

18:59 I don't... I can honestly say I've never heard of... I don't know anyone that's done that.

19:07 I don't... No, because we don't know crazy people. Ashley Kwok, Quake.

19:13 No, we know crazy people, bitch. We've been knowing some crazy people. Yes.

19:18 And we're all crazy. Everyone has crazy moments in their life.

19:21 100%.

19:23 But I've never even thought of doing it.

19:26 I'm thinking about the people that I've dated before.

19:38 I think that they would leave me if I did that.

19:42 And I think I would leave someone if, did I brush my teeth with it? Did you actually let me brush my teeth? Or did you tell me before I brushed my teeth?

19:55 That's the other thing.

19:56 Yeah.

19:57 Because it's like, you let me then brush my teeth? Wait, I'm going to throw up.

20:06 No, it is vomit... worthy of an offense.

20:14 Here's the thing, though. We've all done crazy shit. She rimmed a toilet. You have people on the cast that have fake boyfriends. I mean, what's crazier? A hire a day for, you know, a season? Sign this NDA here and pretend to be my boyfriend? Or cleaning your man's toothbrush because you're mad at him for talking about girls.

20:41 I mean, they're both equally pretty.

20:43 No, Monica, no, no. No, no, Monica.

20:48 You don't think renting a boyfriend's insane?

20:52 I do think it's insane. Okay.

20:55 But the charge of putting someone's toothbrush, do you understand how disgusting toilet seats are?

21:04 I just almost threw up. I'm not kidding. Like, I... Yeah.

21:09 Was it an electric toothbrush? Was it... You know what I mean? Like....

21:16 And then I need to know, like you said, did he use it? Did you let him use it first? Because if you did, that's fucking crazy. So, look, Ashley is very interesting, but I also think she is fucking cuckoo.

21:31 Okay. Like, beyond cuckoo.

21:34 That's, I mean, I will give her, I'm going to give her credit for owning it.

21:41 She owned it. She owned it. She owned it. And that's why, listen, I do like her. I like her. I like her.

21:47 I think she's interesting. She definitely is like the other women. And I do like that she, like you said, she owns it and she did own it.

21:56 And that is what made me really say, okay.

21:58 Lisa Burrow's like, no, I don't believe that. That's not true.

22:03 No.

22:05 And then Ashley's like, no, I didn't. And she's like, what?

22:09 Oh, my God.

22:10 But right out the gate, she's like, I don't believe that shit.

22:18 Yes.

22:19 Yeah. Because Lisa's defense is, let me defend you.

22:24 And then when she said, no, bitch, I did, then when she goes, okay.

22:28 Even Mary was like, well, but is it true?

22:32 You don't even know if it's true. And then that shit was true.

22:36 It was true. It was true. So I think it's foul. It's disgusting.

22:39 But hey, I do like Ashley. I don't like her less. If anything, the fact that she owned it is what really made me love her more. The other thing, though, that happened in this episode was Angie... packing for the trip. And she's talking about her marriage to Sean.

23:04 Yeah.

23:06 She talks about how she and Sean are not a good place after being married for 25 years. Monica, she said they are avoiding hugging and kissing each other. So what we do know, obviously, is they're separated. But To your point last week, this was another scene to let us know what's to come on this season based on this revelation. Avoiding hugging and kissing your partner of 25 years, what do you think must have happened?

23:45 You want to know what I think happened?

23:47 Yeah.

23:49 I think what happened was.

23:52 He saw her leave the house in that confessional look. And she was like, I'll see you later.

23:59 And he was like, I.

24:02 Am married to a fucking Timu Michael Jackson.

24:07 I can never unsee that look. And I have to leave.

24:14 He saw her in her Timu getup of MJ. And he was like, I'm done.

24:25 I'm serious. That was horrible.

24:28 That's the problem. You're serious.

24:31 I'm so serious. No, because you know what?

24:35 It paints a bigger picture because she is so delusional.

24:38 Now that she thinks that was a yes. That was a go. That was a good look. We're going to run with it in confessional. I look amazing.

24:46 There's nothing wrong with me. And it proves the delusion that Sean is probably living with.

24:53 So Raindrops, Monica, in case you haven't noticed, she's talking about Angie Kay's confessional look.

25:01 She has, well, describe it. It's like a blue.

25:07 Tell me she doesn't look like Janet Jackson or something.

25:12 Like, bitch. She could have been on Vegas as an.

25:19 Impressionist with that confessional look. It was so bad. Can you put a picture of it up? That shit was so bad.

25:30 I gotta find it now as I put on my glasses.

25:33 I'm telling you.

25:34 I will say this.

25:35 Not the best confessional look, I must say. Let me.

25:43 See.

25:46 I was so freaking horrible.

25:49 I want to see if Google actually has it up now. Because if they do, I will share it on the screen.

25:56 You need to type in Angie Katanavis Michael Jackson. And I promise you, Google search is going to.

26:02 I am done with you. I can't. Monica, ask and you shall receive.

26:09 Stop it right now. Get the fuck out.

26:12 Come on.

26:13 We are a part of the Red Nation.

26:17 Stop it.

26:19 You know it's true.

26:22 I'm telling you.

26:35 I'm sorry. It's so bad.

26:38 So you think that's the reason why?

26:40 He's like, I am no longer attracted to you. I can't kiss you anymore. So I'm gonna see my way out of this marriage. Oh my gosh.

27:02 No, I really do think it's just, honestly, in all seriousness, all jokes aside, I think, look, they didn't like me for the rumors that I said that I was hearing on my season. And that's fine, but there were rumors then of shit happening. We are just seeing.

27:24 More into that. There's clearly a divide. There's clearly a divide.

27:31 And we've been able to tell that, that he's just, I think, fed up, checked out of her antics maybe of putting the show first. I don't know.

27:42 I don't know.

27:44 Did you, when you were filming with them, Did you get a sense of it? I mean, obviously you was going through your own shit and your own shit with the girls too, but did you get a sense that their marriage at that time weren't at its best place?

28:04 No, I really didn't.

28:06 I mean, I had been hearing these rumors and I told her what I was hearing and I had been hearing things, but to see them together, no, I did not think that. Okay. I didn't.

28:15 Okay, okay.

28:16 Yeah, so what we do know, Monica, obviously was coming. And they are definitely planting the seeds.

28:25 Yeah.

28:26 And the thing with Angie is, look, I'm looking forward to hearing from her.

28:34 POV what she thinks went wrong.

28:37 Because when we first learned this, you and I both heard the same thing that allegedly Sean felt that she wasn't the woman he married. that this show kind of has taken over identity. These are all, but you, but it was crazy because we, we live in two different coasts and both heard the exact same thing without talking to each other. And that to me speaks volumes. And I heard, like I said, that he, he just feels that way.

29:05 Yeah.

29:06 I think like you said, that's what happens in a lot of these shows. housewives relationships, whether it's with a fiance, a husband, a boyfriend, whatever, you know, I think that's pretty common. I, I will say I didn't, I didn't see.

29:21 That for them.

29:22 Yeah.

29:22 I re I really didn't.

29:24 Yeah.

29:24 Um, if anything, and I, and I said this, I don't think they aired it, but when I told Angie about the rumors I had heard, I was like, no one gives a fuck. You guys can do what you want in your marriage.

29:36 If you have an open marriage, if you have an agreement, if you have whatever.

29:38 No one gives a fuck.

29:39 Yeah. And I, I still think that like, I'm still like, whatever you guys like every marriage or relationship is its own. And I, I think, you know, I think I never saw them getting divorced. I think if anything, I was like, maybe they have an open marriage and that's cool.

29:58 But, Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens with that.

30:02 We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens.

30:04 But the biggest thing is the fact that, yes, they are definitely going through a divorce.

30:12 And listen, they have a child together. So obviously, you know, our hope is what's best for the family. So it's St.

30:21 Patty's Day, girl. And they are going to San Francisco where Bronwyn was raised. And your girl, Brittany, honey, is going around pinching people at the airport, girl.

30:36 I got to say something, and you're going to be mad at me.

30:39 What?

30:40 You're going to be mad at me.

30:41 But did you not think for a second when you were listening to Bronwyn talk about, you know, San Fran is where, like, I'm.

30:49 Going to take him to the financial district where I worked. And I was like... Where you did identity theft and stole money from the company that you worked for?

30:59 Because that would have been my fucking response if I was quiet on that goddamn bus.

31:04 Bitch. Allegedly. Allegedly.

31:09 But I was like, we're going back to the financial district. I'm triggered. I'm triggered. These wives in their financial districts, bitch.

31:23 I can't. So that did not come to mind. See? See?

31:38 But yes, San Fran Braun was a smoker, apparently.

31:44 She says she was a smoker. She says she grew up there. She met Todd when her daughter was seven years old.

31:55 She mentioned how, you know, Todd slipped in her life and slipped back out. And then I'm going to say this, you know, I really give her her tens.

32:07 Yeah.

32:07 Heather said she thought she would never feel sorry for Todd because he's a creep, but that Bronwyn married him. took all his money, and is now with a model. Gag.

32:23 So....

32:26 I know you really agree with Heather, rightfully so. But with that being said, what are your thoughts on.

32:33 I mean, it would have ate down more if she was like, and now she's with a paid-for actor.

32:37 But yes, model, sure.

32:40 Model, sure.

32:41 Like, I mean, I think that's, you know. This is a damn mess. This episode was a damn mess.

32:53 My God.

32:54 I'm like, oh.

32:56 Yeah, yeah.

32:58 She felt bad for Todd. Yeah.

33:04 That was brutal, actually.

33:06 That was brutal.

33:08 So, you know, they are. What did you.

33:14 Think about Lisa... saying she gets invited to the Oscars, but.

33:22 We can't even finish this.

33:24 Lisa Barlow said she gets invited to the Oscars, but turns it down all the time.

33:29 She's busy. It's boring.

33:31 And they're like, Lisa, if you ever got invited to the Oscars, do you not know that you would tell us you would go and you would remind us every chance you get that not only are you at Sundance with Ben Affleck and J-Lo, you're also at the Oscars hanging out with Meryl Streep and Anne Hathaway.

33:47 What are we talking about here?

33:51 And then she was like, you know how we get invited to so much stuff? And like, you can't go to everything.

33:57 And they're like, you go to the Oscars, though. You don't turn down the Oscars.

34:03 Who's turning down the Oscars? Monica.

34:08 So do you believe this story? I.

34:16 There is no world. That Lisa's not going to the Oscars.

34:22 There's no fucking world that she's not going to the Oscars.

34:29 There's, I'm sorry.

34:31 You know how like in Avengers and all those movies, there's all these different multiverses and you break off in this one and break off in the, and then there's like 300 different, in every fucking 300 outcomes, she is still going to the Oscars in every single multiverse.

34:45 Yeah.

34:46 There's no way in any.

34:48 Universe that bitch is not going to the Oscars.

34:52 This is not, of all people, Lisa Barlow?

34:55 No, stop it.

34:57 Stop. Like, stop it. Like, stop it. Like, Lisa, you tried it. It's unbelievable.

35:04 But then she threw a shot at Bronwyn saying, you know, I got invited before Housewives, unlike Bronwyn, who then they showed.

35:12 Do you think that could be true?

35:15 What?

35:18 Would she have been invited pre-Housewives? No, for real. Like, as a filler?

35:27 You know?

35:28 I don't know. Maybe it was nosebleeds.

35:32 This is.

35:34 Before Housewives, and this is no shade to Lisa Barlow, who I love. Before Housewives, Lisa Barlow.

35:40 Would go to the opening of an envelope. So the idea... There's no shade. It's no shade. I've watched the show. I'm going to the Oscars in the nosebleeds as a C Fuller in ballet.

36:00 I'm going to the Oscars if I have to pick up. I'm one of the guys in the background. Okay, do I have to fluff your gown?

36:08 Okay, great. Do I have to like hold the doors open? Okay, great. I'm still going.

36:15 I'm doing whatever it takes to go. So, listen, was Lisa brought up that girl pre-Housewives? When it comes to Sundance, yes.

36:28 Okay.

36:29 Wait, no?

36:29 I don't know. It's hard for me because I never heard of these women at all before. Except for Heather because of Beauty Lab, to be honest.

36:41 Okay, that's fair. Yeah. When Sundance was happening in Utah... Mm-hmm.

36:50 I didn't know Lisa. No, I didn't.

36:54 And everybody goes to Sundance. It doesn't matter who you are. You can fucking watch this. You can all go to Sundance. You don't have to, you know.

37:02 whatever it's that's actually what.

37:04 It's about is bringing notoriety to these new artists and actors and screenplayers and writers and directors that's the whole point so yeah I'm just saying I didn't know you know of Whitney of Jen of Lisa what I knew of Heather I knew yeah.

37:25 Okay yeah.

37:28 And and and there you go okay so yeah at the hotel.

37:32 Bitch how are you gonna skip over the part of the toothbrushes on the bus.

37:38 No that's later oh oh wait no that's later that's a trolley.

37:43 Isn't that the bus.

37:45 No that's a trolley.

37:48 They're they check in the hotel they check in the hotel And then at the hotel. Oh, yes.

37:55 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

37:57 Mr.

37:57 King is correct.

37:59 Thank you.

38:00 Yes, honey.

38:00 I have my notes in order. Okay. So they're at the hotel.

38:06 Yes.

38:07 It's Heather, Bronwyn, Angie, and Whitney.

38:12 They are getting eaten alive. That little team right there is getting eaten alive online, by the way.

38:18 What's happening?

38:20 Oh, they're just getting completely destroyed for being such mean girls. And, like, they're just liars. And they're getting completely annihilated online. But, yeah.

38:29 Okay, because in this scene, Bronwyn and Heather... I'm sorry. Heather and Angie are hearing from the first time through Bronwyn and Whitney what Ashley said about them.

38:45 Yes.

38:45 And then Whitney's like, she called you diabolical. And of course, Heaven's like, what? Why would she call me that? I thought we were like, okay. And then Brahma doubled down on it. And then she tells Angie what she said. You're the new girl, all this other stuff.

39:04 That was one.

39:05 Big revelation of telephone game. I mean, everything was off. Nobody said anything that anybody said.

39:13 Completely off. To the point where... they're doubling down on it.

39:19 Yeah.

39:20 Like, no, she calls you diabolical. And it's like, no, she said Diablo.

39:25 Aggressive and this and that. And no, I didn't say, oh my God, a mess.

39:33 It was a mess.

39:34 And then Angie reveals the whole toothbrush story. And Whitney is gagged because she's like, bitch, I told you this story. Angie is making it seem like she heard this from somebody else and Whitney in the confessionals is like, I'm the one who told you this. And now she realizes like, okay, this is going to be a big issue.

39:59 And then when they.

39:59 Got on the trolley, Angie brought toothbrushes for everybody, which to me, and I'm going to be very honest as a producer, uh, I felt that was such a pre-produced moment.

40:14 Yeah.

40:15 It looked like hotel toothbrushes. Yeah. Like the hotel toothbrushes in the packages.

40:21 Yeah.

40:22 Yeah. So I was sort of like, all right, clearly the producer said, hey, grab a bunch of toothbrushes, call the front desk, we'll give, you know, like whatever. And she brought it as a way to sort of like diss Ashley. But one thing I love about Ashley, she did gag once she found out that it was the joke was on her.

40:46 But like you said earlier, the bitch owned it. You have to.

40:51 Yeah, exactly. You have to just. The thing is, is that moment flopped so hard.

40:57 Yes.

40:58 It did not land.

41:00 It didn't.

41:00 It wasn't funny. It wasn't cute. It wasn't.

41:05 Like it wasn't any of that. It was like, that's, that's literally how it was. I mean, it, it didn't, it was like, that was bad. To be honest, it was bad. It was, it was bad. And I was really proud of Ashley for snatching that moment from her because that's exactly what you have to do. You cannot, that's what, that's, I've always said this. You have to fucking just own everything.

41:34 And it is what it is.

41:36 And the fact that she was like, I absolutely did that. You know, it's like, well, then you take away their.

41:42 Power in that moment. And so that was, that was so stupid. That was stupid.

41:49 And from what I've seen online, people agree that it was so pathetic, like Angie and your damn props.

41:56 We've had enough with your one-trick pony antics.

42:00 Like, how many props is she going to give us every fucking season with the stupid scroll and the stupid toothbrush and the stupid this and the stupid that?

42:07 And it's just like, oh, yeah. People didn't like it. It didn't land. It just didn't land. It wasn't it.

42:13 It didn't land.

42:14 And it made me concerned about Angie because remember last week I said to you, the first two episodes, Angie wasn't really a thing that.

42:24 Yes.

42:24 What was prominent in the episodes. And I am concerned for Angie. I think she's becoming a caricature of herself. I think she's great and she's funny and she's all those things. But I think she doesn't know how to be present. And I think she's always looking for a moment. Yeah.

42:47 She put as much effort into her marriage as she does her props and reads like rehearsing.

42:54 She'd probably have a better marriage because.

42:56 Baby, you are spending way too much time on trying to orchestrate and fabricate a moment for yourself. And people can tell people can tell. So take that energy and put it into your man.

43:10 Go give him a hug.

43:16 Okay. Wise words for Monica, baby.

43:23 Yes. Monica, how did you feel?

43:26 Because at this point, Angie's trying to defend herself and her position in terms of what she heard. Baby, Miss Ashley woke it up, bitch.

43:38 She is charging at them.

43:41 Heather's trying to get a piece of her. She's charging at them. Angie interrupts her. Ashley screams, let me finish, girl. Ashley ain't the motherfucking one. And I was like, oh, these girls knowing now that she's not the bitch that they can haze and she will be a wallflower.

44:00 I was proud that she said it for herself.

44:04 Yeah, I mean, it was very reminiscent of the stupid Sprinter van scene in season four when we were in drag. And it was very, I mean, they will all just gang up on you. And if you cannot handle a moment like that, you're not going to, it's, it's not going to work. Like you have to be able to take it on. You have to be able to sit at your table in a foreign country and have all of them screaming at you and wanting to kick you out of the house.

44:40 And you just be like, Hmm. I'm going to fucking da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And she did that.

44:45 She was like, you da-da-da-da, and you da-da-da, and you ba-ba-ba, and da-da-da-da, and Whitney, I thought you were my friend, and ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, and I never said that about Heather.

44:54 And, like, I will say.

44:59 She did break down, rightfully so, because that's a perfect description.

45:07 Of what we call baptism by fire.

45:09 And anytime you ride in a fucking vehicle with these women.

45:15 You're trapped. You can't run.

45:17 And you're going to have to deal with whatever comes at you.

45:21 And the second she got off the bus, she got emotional.

45:23 And I loved seeing Lisa and Meredith there for her. Let me tell you something about Lisa Barlow. Lisa Barlow is the first one fucking there if someone's crying. She really is. She really, really is. And that's what I always say is, you know, the difference between, uh, Heather and the rest of the cast is the rest of the cast at the end of the day has a heart and a soul.

45:48 Heather's just empty bitch. She's straight ass tin man. Like it's, it's.

45:53 Unreal, but I loved seeing Lisa and Meredith go to her comfort, her Meredith a hundred percent nailed it. When she said, if they see they're getting to you, they're going to come harder.

46:06 It's, Blood in the water, bitch. Blood in the water, bitch. You cannot bleed.

46:13 Go bleed later when you're in your hotel room to your man. Not in front of these bitches. Don't give them a tear. Don't give them one drop of blood, bitch. Mm-mm.

46:26 Well, that's really how it is. And it's funny because you've always said that. So I didn't think about that.

46:32 You're trapped. And in this case, they're in a trolley, right? Yeah. It's close proximity.

46:37 I mean, she's defending herself against Heather.

46:42 You know, Heather's like, you call me diabolical. She's like, I didn't say that. I said Diablo. I don't even know what diabolical means, right?

46:49 And you can tell Heather, which by the way, I'm like, Ashley, I love you because good.

46:55 And I believe that story.

46:57 But then, like you said with Whitney, which is so interesting because she yells at Whitney to shut the fuck up and let her speak. And she yells at them And you did expect Whitney to.

47:11 Really have her backing away.

47:13 And although Whitney tried to say throughout the episode, like, well, I'm closer to Heather. So, you know, intimating that she feels she's in a rock and a hard place. But it's like, stand up for what's right. And I think Whitney played herself by not only remembering the story, But now also giving Ashley a heads up like, look, girl, I'm going to have to tell them this. Or like, hey, before you find out, I did say this to them. Like, take her aside on camera, of course, and say, I had a conversation with them.

47:52 We're close. And I don't want you to think I'm talking about you behind your back. Although I did. Like, to get in front of it.

47:58 Oh, no.

47:59 Why?

48:00 Ashley kept getting like.

48:02 drug for filth left and right by Whitney coming out with these stories, like of stuff she shared with her.

48:08 It was so frustrating. And we see her cry like, I told you I would be loyal to you. Like you were supposed to be my friend.

48:18 And this is what I'm talking about, that this is where you get to the point where this is why you need cast shakeups. Alliances run too fucking deep. They don't want anybody new on the cast. They want to be there forever. And so, you know, it's hard because Whitney clearly has a loyalty or something to Heather.

48:40 Mm-hmm. Are they really cousins?

48:46 Who knows?

48:47 Aren't we all?

48:48 Didn't we all come from Adam and Eve or the Big Bang?

48:51 I don't fucking know.

48:52 Like, seriously.

48:53 But, I mean, I.

48:56 Unfortunately, she sacrificed Ashley. um to to heather.

49:04 Yeah and i don't know it was it was it was pretty pretty bad and you know how did you feel when bronwyn checked her and said she doesn't appreciate being yelled at that way?

49:23 Like I said, I wanted to jump through the fucking screen.

49:27 Like, it's so hard for me to watch these scenes again.

49:34 And be able to be like, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. And that's what they hated about me.

49:38 And I'm not tooting my own horn, but I am Latina, bitch. I can come back with it real quick, okay? I spent my entire life fucking fighting, bitch, let's go. And they don't like that.

49:52 So that's why I'm like, I hope.

49:54 A scene was cut and Ashley actually did say something back and we just didn't see it yet.

50:02 I can see that.

50:03 Yeah.

50:04 Yeah.

50:04 Because the way Ashley was going, I find it very odd that she wouldn't have said something back to that.

50:10 I don't know.

50:10 I do too.

50:11 That's why I'm like, I can see a point in there. But yeah, so seeing Ashley, like Ashley is visibly hurt.

50:19 She's crying. And Whitney tried to talk to her. She shoots her away. Then she goes back.

50:27 And Ashley tells Whitney that you're backtracking and I thought you would have my back. And she also tells her all she could think about is her brother and how disappointed he is going to be.

50:41 That was funny.

50:41 Like, that was, that was, I didn't take that too, I was like, okay.

50:47 You're a grown woman though, girl. You don't need to tell your brother. We don't need your brother involved. I thought it was funny.

50:55 Like I thought it was, it was like comical to me. Like she's like, I'm going to tell my brother.

51:00 And I was like, this is funny. But like, Ashley don't care. You know, she's just like.

51:06 I'm going to say whatever I need to say right now. And I, the thing is, I didn't like it. I hate that Whitney, because she really does have a good heart. I hate that she is in this place where she feels this sense of loyalty to Heather. That she has to sacrifice everybody else at Heather's feet. Like, kiss the ring, bitch.

51:26 And it's disgusting. And I wish she would just stop it. But it is what it is. I hated that Whitney went back to the other women and was like, she just told me to go away, bitch. That's very real. Would you want to talk to you right now? If you just did that, if you just had that done to yourself, would you want to talk to that person?

51:45 You guys, you guys fucking left.

51:49 Her to die. She was like, you guys said this, this, and this. They're like, we didn't say that. Roll footage.

51:56 They absolutely said that. Bronwyn's like, Whitney, you were there. Did you hear me say that? She's like, no.

52:02 Like they left her for dead.

52:04 Come on.

52:06 I wouldn't want to talk to you either. Give me a break.

52:09 Yeah. Yeah. No, it was bad. It was bad.

52:14 And to your point, Whitney's going to have to make a choice in terms of this loyalty she has to Heather because Ashley, I feel like Ashley's the type of chick you can tell she's loyal. And you need that on your side versus somebody that may have something on you Hannah's going to use it against you.

52:38 I was just going to say, you're looking at loyalty versus blackmail.

52:45 That's what I was going to say.

52:46 100%.

52:47 We both see that. Yep.

52:50 Does Whitney see that, though? Yes.

52:53 That's why she's doing it. Yeah, she's stuck in it.

53:00 Yeah.

53:02 All right. Well, look. When it comes to this episode, I like the Monica.

53:11 I hate you.

53:17 Listen, Monica.

53:19 You give me bad wigs, an emotional moment, some tears, and a scooby bash.

53:26 You want to know what?

53:28 You want to know what I think my problem is? I think it's I Rhode Island. ate down for me so hard that now I'm like comparing it to that. Do you know that people, I'm not alone in this though, because people were like, not Real Housewives of New York being more entertaining than Salt Lake.

53:48 Okay. Now, okay. So, okay. Now that's a different conversation. Okay. Okay. Because, honey. Yeah. As of now.

54:01 Yes.

54:02 New York City is beating Salt Lake City in entertainment.

54:06 Yeah.

54:06 To me.

54:07 To me.

54:08 To me.

54:08 And I will say this. I will say this. I actually look forward to watching New York City live.

54:19 Ooh!

54:22 You've never said that!

54:25 Ever. I actually, on Tuesdays, I'm like, okay, I schedule... things around New York City housewives. I'm like, okay.

54:36 That is a big statement, Carlos.

54:38 No, I'm being honest.

54:40 I love it. I love it.

54:42 Are you watching? No. Okay. It's good. Okay.

54:47 Maybe I should stop. How many episodes have there been?

54:49 Four. Okay.

54:51 I can catch up on four.

54:53 But I'm going to tell you what it is, and this is why you're not wrong. So, again, you're not wrong.

54:58 Yeah. Because.

55:02 The reason why New York City reboot is so entertaining, and everybody is like, we got to admit, guys, and I've been hard on that reboot for two years straight.

55:11 Everybody has. Everybody has.

55:13 Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to tell you what they got right. Okay.

55:18 The casting, obviously, is great, but is what you said that Salt Lake City could be missing- is the fact that there's no alliance on New York City.

55:28 Exactly.

55:29 I'm telling you, it ruins it. It ruins it. People were like, oh, no. I think I sent it to you, actually.

55:37 There was a meme going around that was like, Salt Lake City is becoming Beverly Hills right before our eyes.

55:42 And it's so true, though. Like, you can't. That's why Bravo knows it.

55:47 Come on now.

55:47 That's why they shake it up all the time.

55:49 Because you get these messy alliances and nothing else is allowed to work.

55:55 You know, it kind of puts everything at a standstill because.

55:59 Yeah, you hit it on the head with that. That is 100% right.

56:03 Yeah. Because when you, and that's why we love Rhode Island. Yes. We love Rhode Island because it was like.

56:10 Yeah.

56:11 The shit that we, you and I were like, but wait a second. They have history. Like.

56:16 Yeah.

56:18 Shit. Liz was going through with Joe. All of it. Like, that alone, Kelsey, Rue La La, it was... It was a mess. It was a mess.

56:34 And the fact that they all have history and you could tell like, bitch, we're just going to be honest and take it or leave it. And that's why that show is 10 out of a 10. New York City Housewives, it's so fucking good. It's appointment television.

56:52 I need to watch it.

56:53 The thing with Salt Lake, and I will say this, there needs to be a cash shakeup for sure.

56:58 I was shocked it didn't happen this season.

57:03 I think a lot of people were.

57:04 This was a season, I'm not going to name names, I'll tell Monica off camera. There were three housewives that I felt should have been demoted.

57:18 Wait.

57:22 Well, one, I think should be fired. And I think my friends all know who that is. But I digress. You do too. So all good. Because you agree.

57:33 I think we have the same.

57:34 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got to be honest with you. There were two that I just knew were being demoted. I just knew they were. And I loved them. But I felt that.

57:52 Listen, the time has come where, like, Tower Banks on Top Model, there's two cars left.

58:00 In my hands, and only one of you. You know what I mean? Like, who's America's next top, like, snowflake? So I wanted that to happen to make, to sort of, like, jizz up the show. Yes, yes. But I will go on record saying this, and I'll end it with this. Okay.

58:22 Okay.

58:22 And I'm sure you've seen this online too, bitch.

58:25 Tell me.

58:28 Monica and Jen Shaw back in the same season. Massive ratings. I mean, the world will stop.

58:37 You are not. To see the two of you in the same.

58:40 Could you freaking imagine?

58:42 It's my birthday. And that's my birthday wish. That's your wish.

58:49 Blow it out, boo.

58:50 Blow it out.

58:50 Blow it out.

58:52 That's the only way that shit's coming true, honey.

58:55 Never say never, bitch. I'm just saying.

58:57 You're not wrong. Never say never. What many weeks came back? You never know. You never know.

59:06 You never know. You never know.

59:08 Carol.

59:10 Carol is back.

59:11 That's another one.

59:13 And that was a shock. So listen, my point is this. You never fucking know. So that's my birthday. I love it. I love it. And raindrops. Let us know. Let Monica and I know. Okay? Yes. And we will see you guys next week. Monica, you know how I do it. I love you.

59:33 Happy birthday.

59:35 Thank you. I'll see you soon, boo. Yes. Love you.

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