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Scaling Laws explores (and occasionally answers) the questions that keep OpenAI’s policy team up at night, the ones that motivate legislators to host hearings on AI and draft new AI bills, and the ones that are top of mind for tech-savvy law and policy students. Co-hosts Alan Rozenshtein, Professor at Minnesota Law and Research Director at Lawfare, and Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas and Senior Editor at Lawfare, dive into the intersection of AI, innovation policy, and the law through regular interviews with the folks deep in the weeds of developing, regulating, and adopting AI. They also provide regular rapid-response analysis of breaking AI governance news. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Live from Emory Law: Stacey Abrams joins Alex Bores & Kevin Frazier
One week before Election Day, the Scaling Laws Roadshow visited Emory Law for a conversation with Stacey Abrams, former Minority Leader of the Georgia House of Representatives, bestselling author, entrepreneur, and producer. She joined Kevi
Live at Univ. of Oregon: AI and State Governments with Nik Blosser
What should a state government have to demonstrate before it asks residents to trust an AI system? In this episode of Scaling Laws, Nik Blosser, Oregon’s Chief AI Officer, joins Kevin Frazier, Director of the AI Innovation and Law Program a
Live at North Dakota Law: Justice Jerod Tufte on AI in the Judiciary
Live from Grand Forks, North Dakota! Should the public be upset that courts aren’t using more AI? Justice Jerod Tufte of the North Dakota Supreme Court joins Kevin Frazier, director of the AI Innovation and Law Program at the University of
Scaling Laws Live at Nebraska Law: Matt Tokson on AI Surveillance
What happens to society, law and privacy when artificial intelligence makes it possible for police to detect nearly every observable crime? Matthew Tokson, Director of the Criminal Law Program and Associate Dean for Research and Faculty Dev
Hélène Landemore on Public Participation in AI Governance
Hélène Landemore (https://politicalscience.yale.edu/people/h-l-ne-landemore), Professor of Political Science at Yale University and a fellow at Oxford’s Institute for Ethics in AI, joins Kevin Frazier, director of the AI Innovation and Law
Child Safety AI Policy at Scale with Vaishnavi J and Dave Willner
Dave Willner, co-founder of Zentropi, and Vaishnavi J., founder and principal of Vys, join Kevin Frazier, director of the AI Innovation and Law Program at the University of Texas School of Law and a senior fellow at the Abundance Institute,
Live from Columbia Law with Chloé Bakalar: What can constitutions teach us about governing AI?
Chloé Bakalar, ASI Ethics Lead at Responsible Superintelligence Institute (RESI) and a Senior Research Associate at University College London, joins Kevin Frazier, Director of the AI Innovation and Law Program at the University of Texas Sch
Is Meta's Oversight Board a Model for AI Governance
Kenji Yoshino, Chief Justice Earl Warren Professor of Constitutional Law at New York University School of Law and a member of Meta’s Oversight Board, joins Kevin Frazier, director of the AI Innovation and Law Program at the University of Te
Algorithmic Disgorgement with Christina Lee [Live From LawAI's Workshop on Law-Following AI]
Christina Lee (https://www.law.gwu.edu/christina-lee?utm_source=chatgpt.com), Visiting Associate Professor of Law and Privacy and Technology Law Fellow at George Washington University Law School, joins Kevin Frazier, director of the AI Inno
Building AI Assurance Ecosystem with Bri Treece (PACT AI) and Dr. Rob Slone (UL Solutions)
Bri Treece, Executive Director of PACT AI, (https://pactai.org/) and Dr. Rob Slone, Chief Scientist & Innovation Officer at UL Solutions, join Kevin Frazier, Director of the AI Innovation and Law Program at Texas Law and a Senior Editor at
Founders & Founders: Brandon Mitchell of WriteSea
Brandon Mitchell, founder of WriteSea, joins Kevin Frazier, the AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare, to discuss the growing role of artificial intelligence in workforce develo
AI Consciousness with Anil Seth
Anil Seth, Professor of Cognitive and Computational Neuroscience and Director of the Sussex Centre for Consciousness Science at the University of Sussex, joins Kevin Frazier, director of the AI Innovation and Law Program at the University o
Matt Abrams on Trust and the Migration to the Digital Age
Matt Abrams, technologist, investor, and co-founder of $1 Billion for Trust, joins Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare, to discuss the collapse of institutional
Founders & Founders: Matthew Schwartz of Virgo
Matthew Schwartz, founder of Virgo, joins Kevin Frazier, the AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare, to discuss how AI is beginning to reshape gastroenterology. Virgo’s model is
Daniel Kokotajlo on AI 2040: Plan A
Daniel Kokotajlo, former OpenAI researcher and executive director of the AI Futures Project, joins Kevin Frazier, Director of the AI Innovation and Law Program at Texas Law and Senior Editor at Lawfare, to detail his policy recommendation–A
DZ Kalman on the Role of Faith in AI Policy
DZ Kalman, fellow at the Berkman Klein Center, research fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute, senior advisor at Sinai & Synapses, and host of Belief in the Future (https://www.beliefinthefuture.com/), joins Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation an
Founders & Founders: Laura Davis of USLege
Laura Davis, founder of USLege, joins Kevin Frazier, the AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare, to dive into how USLege is leveraging AI to transform the way professionals monit
Google's Kent Walker on Regulating Frontier AI
Kent Walker, President of Global Affairs at Google and Alphabet, joins Kevin to discuss Google's proposal for a two-pronged approach (https://blog.google/company-news/outreach-and-initiatives/public-policy/white-paper-ai-regulation/) to AI
The Politics and Politicking of AI with Assemblymember Alex Bores
Assemblymember Alex Bores ran for Congress on a platform that in many ways centered on AI policy. He therefore drew considerable support as well as substantial opposition from interest groups across the country. Though Bores lost in the Dem
Courtney Cox on AI in Adjudication [live from the Institute of Law & AI's Workshop on Law-Following AI]
Courtney Cox, Associate Professor of Law at Fordham Law School, joins Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare, to discuss her forthcoming article, Hardwiring Hercul
Founders & Founders: Nils Tracy of Authorship
Nils Tracy, founder of Authorship, joins Kevin Frazier, the AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare, to detail the challenges and solutions to deploying AI in highly sensitive con
New paths to social mobility with Joe Seddon
Joe Seddon, Founder and CEO of Zero Gravity, joins Kevin Frazier, director of the AI Innovation and Law Program at the University of Texas School of Law and a senior fellow at the Abundance Institute, to discuss AI, social mobility, higher
Founders & Founders: Adi Tantravahi of Cofactor
Adi Tantravahi, founder of Cofactor, joins Kevin Frazier, the AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare, to talk about how AI can help cut through the administrative red tape that u
All Things Data Centers with Andy Masley
Andy Masley joins Kevin Frazier, director of the AI Innovation and Law Program at the University of Texas School of Law and a senior editor at Lawfare, and Alan Rozenshtein, research director at Lawfare and associate professor at Minnesota
Founders & Founders: Kal Clark of Zauron Labs
Kal Clark, co-founder of Zauron Labs, joins Kevin Frazier, the AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare, to explain how AI is already reducing diagnostic errors in radiology. Kal d
Lawfare Daily: 'The Reverse Centaur's Guide to Life After AI’—A Conversation with Cory Doctorow
Alan Rozenshtein, associate professor of law at the University of Minnesota and research director at Lawfare, and Kate Klonick, associate professor of law at St. John's University School of Law and a senior editor at Lawfare, spoke with sci
Founders & Founders: Dhruv Diddi of Solo Tech
Dhruv Diddi, founder of Solo Tech, joins Kevin Frazier, the AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare, to discuss the emerging frontier of Physical AI. Solo Tech builds infrastructu
"The God Test": AI as Cosmic Reckoning, with Robert Wright
Alan Rozenshtein, Research Director at Lawfare, spoke with Robert Wright—author of Nonzero, The Moral Animal, The Evolution of God, and Why Buddhism Is True, and the writer behind the NonZero Newsletter and podcast—about his new book, The G
Justified Posteriors join Scaling Laws: Two economists and two lawyers walk into a podcast studio
In this cross-pod episode, Alan and Kevin join Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin of Justified Posteriors (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/justified-posteriors/id1784022930) to explore a big question: what should AI be for? The conversat
Explain to Shane (Tews) and Scaling Laws
Shane Tews, host of Explain to Shane (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/explain-to-shane/id1523693011) and nonresident senior fellow at AEI, joins Kevin Frazier, director of the AI Innovation and Law Program at the University of Texas S
