Teaching in Higher Ed· Folge 629

The Story of Grades, with Luke Green

Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2026 · 31 min

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Luke Green uses the Santa Claus story to rethink what grades measure and the case for ungrading on episode 629 of the Teaching in Higher Ed podcast.

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Each student at some point throughout their academic career is going to receive a grade, receive some sort of an assessment that is going to fundamentally alter how they feel about the classroom.

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The narrative that we sell to our kids is that these gifts are earned. The metric is, those who are good children or better children, you receive more.

-Luke Green

What are grades, and what purpose do we want them to serve?

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Usually, it’s a proxy of understanding a student’s overall experience. And GPA is even worse, because you’re putting all of your course grades into a meat grinder and spitting out one number.

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Resources

• Luke Green, St. Cloud Technical & Community College (sctcc.edu/about-us/faculty-staff-directory/luk…)

• Luke Green Recognized at MinnState Board Awards (sctcc.edu/about-us/news-events/news/luke-green…)

• Grading for Growth, by David Clark and Robert Talbert (bookshop.org/a/79174/9781642673814)

• Unmaking the Grade, by Emily Pitts Donahoe (emilypittsdonahoe.substack.com)

• Learning About Grades from an Emerging Failure, with Emily Pitts Donahoe and Hannah Stachowiak (teachinginhighered.com/588)

• Campbell’s Law (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell%27s_law)

• Hood Politics with Prop (podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hood-politics-wi…)

• There Really Is a Santa Claus, by Glenn P. Crone (amazon.com/There-Really-Santa-Claus-Glenn/dp/B…)

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