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  1. Welcome to The Curiosity Shop

    Research professor Brené Brown and organizational psychologist Adam Grant are partnering on a new weekly podcast grounded in an unflinching commitment to learning and unlearning. At a time when public discourse rewards certainty over inquir

  2. Brené on Strong Ground Ask Me Anything, Part 2 of 2

    In the second part of an Ask Me Anything episode around Strong Ground, Brené shares an excerpt from the Strong Ground audiobook that walks listeners through the one topic that elicited the most questions — the Above/Below the Line practice.

  3. Brené on Strong Ground Ask Me Anything, Part 1 of 2

    In part one of an Ask Me Anything episode around Strong Ground, Brené answers questions from listeners about mindset shifts, leading from where you are, and courage and boldness in uncertain times. She highlights the importance of pausing d

  4. Brené and Adam Grant on Rewarding Effort With Time

    In the final episode of a special “Dare to Lead” series with Adam Grant, Brené and Adam discuss the problem with rewarding all effort as excellence. Instead, leaders should reward effort that is not leading to success or mastery with their

  5. Brené and Adam Grant on the Skillsets of Empathy

    In the fifth episode of a special “Dare to Lead” series with Adam Grant, Brené and Adam break down the skillsets of empathy, empathy misses, and how empathy is trickier than walking in someone else’s shoes. They discuss the way empathy can

  6. Brené and Adam Grant on Empathy vs. Enmeshment

    In the fourth episode of a special “Dare to Lead” series with Adam Grant, Brené and Adam explore the attack on empathy, the difference between cognitive empathy and affective empathy, and what separates empathy from enmeshment. Brené shares

  7. Brené and Adam Grant on Time Scarcity, Asking Questions, and Pocket Presence

    In the third part of a special series with Adam Grant, Brené and Adam tackle the topics of time scarcity, how a great leader doesn’t have all the right answers, but the right questions, and the difference between pocket presence and executi

  8. Brené and Adam Grant on the Paradox Tug of War and Leadership Theater

    In part two of a special series with Adam Grant on Brené’s new book, Strong Ground, Brené and Adam discuss the far and near enemies of generosity, the tug of war of paradox, and sports as leadership theater. They explore how finding our str

  9. Brené on Lock-In and Lock-Through Power

    In this special Dare to Lead episode, Brené shares one of her favorite chapters from the Strong Ground audiobook called Lock-In and Lock-Through Power. Brené uses the metaphor of a boat lock to explore the tricky work-to-home and profession

  10. Brené and Adam Grant on Finding Our Strong Ground

    In the first episode of a special series on Brené's new book, Strong Ground, Brené and Adam dig into the origins of Strong Ground, and what values clarity can mean for individuals, teams, and organizations. They take on the question of why

  11. Brené and Barrett reflect on the "Living Beyond Human Scale" Podcast Series

    In this episode Brené and Barrett discuss their learnings on AI and social media and some of their favorite nuggets from each of the guests in the series. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

  12. Dr. Joy Buolamwini on Unmasking AI: My Mission to Protect What Is Human in a World of Machines

    In this episode, Brené and Dr. Joy discuss fighting bias in algorithms, Gender Shades - the accuracy of AI powered gender classification products, and her amazing perspective on technology as a poet, artist, and scientist. Learn more about

  13. Lisa Gevelber on Technology and AI for Good

    In this episode, Brené and Lisa discuss how we can work to close the digital divide and ensure more people have access to technology, what it means in AI speak to have a human in the loop, and the incredible ways teachers, business owners,

  14. Futurist Amy Webb on What's Coming (and What's Here)

    Quantitative futurist Amy Webb talks to us about the three technologies that make up the "super cycle" that we're all living through right now: artificial intelligence, wearable devices, and biotechnology, and why, despite the unnerving cha

  15. Brené with Paul Leonardi and Tsedal Neeley on The Digital Mindset, Part 2 of 2

    In Part 2 of my conversation with Paul Leonardi and Tsedal Neeley, authors of The Digital Mindset: What It Really Takes to Thrive in the Age of Data, Algorithms, and AI, we talk about the importance of establishing a baseline digital litera

  16. Brené with Paul Leonardi and Tsedal Neeley on The Digital Mindset, Part 1 of 2

    This two-part podcast with Paul Leonardi and Tsedal Neeley is an absolute game changer. Given how often I find myself working with leaders who are knee-high in uncertainty and vulnerability around digital transformation, I thought I had a p

  17. Brené with Mike Erwin on Leadership Is a Relationship, Part 2 of 2

    We’re back with Part 2 of my conversation with Mike Erwin, the founder and CEO of the Character and Leadership Center and the co-author of Leadership Is a Relationship. In this episode, we continue to dig into how the most effective leaders

  18. Brené with Mike Erwin on Leadership Is a Relationship, Part 1 of 2

    This is the first of two episodes with Mike Erwin, the founder and CEO of the Character and Leadership Center and the co-author of Leadership Is a Relationship, a timely book that details why leaders who prioritize relationships are more ef

  19. Brené with Lisa Lahey on Immunity to Change, Part 2 of 2

    I won’t lie: This conversation was hard as hell. But — I’m so grateful to Lisa Lahey and all the work she and Robert Kegan have done on the “immunity to change” theory. It explains why lasting, meaningful change is damn hard. Rather than si

  20. Brené with Lisa Lahey on Immunity to Change, Part 1 of 2

    I don’t like to think of myself as someone who’s averse to change. But, man, am I averse to change. Enter the amazing Lisa Lahey. She is a Harvard Graduate School of Education faculty member who has built a body of work to help learners and

  21. Brené and Barrett on Building Brave Spaces

    Barrett and I invite you into some research thinking and dig into the latest data on how to build brave spaces with our teams — what gets in the way of people showing up, what gets in the way of doing the work, and how judgment is the prima

  22. Brené with Janice Omadeke on The Mentor Method and Why Values Matter

    Janice Omadeke is the creator of The Mentor Method, an enterprise software that transforms company culture through mentorship. We talk about her entrepreneurship journey, from building fan sites as a hobby to being named one of Entrepreneur

  23. Brené with Aiko Bethea and Ruchika Tulshyan on the Heart of Leadership, Part 2 of 2

    We are back with Part 2 with two of my friends, mentors, teachers, and co-creators, Aiko Bethea and Ruchika Tulshyan. Join us as we talk about the state of belonging work — what it is, what’s working, and what’s not working. This is a conve

  24. Brené with Aiko Bethea and Ruchika Tulshyan on the Heart of Leadership, Part 1 of 2

    We have two Dare to Lead favorites back with us today who are really important people to me in terms of my own personal and professional growth: Aiko Bethea and Ruchika Tulshyan. We are digging into the heart of what it means to belong. Wha

  25. Brené with Beto O’Rourke on Brave Leadership

    I think y’all know that I’m a fifth-generation Texan, and I have another Texan with me today: Beto O’Rourke. He is running for governor of Texas, and early voting starts next week on October 24th, with Election Day coming up on November 8th

  26. Brené with Adam Grant and Simon Sinek on What's Happening at Work, Part 2 of 2

    We’re back for Part 2 of my two-episode conversation with Adam Grant and Simon Sinek. If you haven’t listened to Part 1, I suggest doing that first, because it provides the framework for the three big topics we cover here: (1) quiet quittin

  27. Brené with Adam Grant and Simon Sinek on What's Happening at Work, Part 1 of 2

    What’s happening in the workplace right now? In this first of two episodes with Adam Grant and Simon Sinek, we talk about what we are seeing in organizations across the world — and there are definitely some trends that emerge. And so much l

  28. Brené with Erika James and Lynn Perry Wooten on The Prepared Leader, Part 2 of 2

    We’re back with the second part of a two-part series with Erika James, PhD, and Lynn Perry Wooten, PhD, about their new book, The Prepared Leader: Emerge from Any Crisis More Resilient Than Before. In Part 1, we talked about what leaders ca

  29. Brené with Erika James and Lynn Perry Wooten on The Prepared Leader, Part 1 of 2

    It’s the first of a two-part series with Erika James, PhD, and Lynn Perry Wooten, PhD, about their new book, The Prepared Leader: Emerge from Any Crisis More Resilient Than Before. It’s completely tactical and has taught me so much about le

  30. Brené and Barrett on Gathering Together for the First Time

    Three weeks ago, our whole company gathered together in our offices for the first time since early March 2020. In this episode, Barrett and I reflect on how it felt to be together, what surprised us, what shifted for us, and what we’ve lear

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