The Future of Marketing Isn’t Courses w/ Ryan Deiss | Ep 395
Donnerstag, 6. November 2025 · 1 h 16
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In this episode, Chris Do sits down with entrepreneur and Digital Marketer founder Ryan Deiss to explore how his early ventures shaped a multimillion-dollar business empire and what led to his public “retirement” from online courses.
Ryan unpacks his journey from selling eBooks in college to scaling a $200M portfolio and why he believes adaptability is the key to long-term success. They discuss what happens when business identity and personal identity collide, the decline of digital courses, and how AI is reshaping the marketing landscape.
Timestamps
() - Intro
() - $200M portfolio snapshot
() - First client, no skills
() - Risk time, not money
() - Who you serve lesson
() - SEO baby-food eBook
() - From maker to publisher
() - Licensing flat-fee deals
() - Six-month job, quit
() - Course revenue collapse
() - Hard pivot calculus
() - Identity, failure, recovery
() - Message to entrepreneurs
() - Pivot to AI services
() - 10-80-10 AI workflow
() - Sell certainty, outcomes
() - Transformation vs. identity
Check out today's guest, Ryan Deiss:
LinkedIn: (uk.linkedin.com/in/simonsquibb) (linkedin.com/in/jeffersonfisher) (au.linkedin.com/in/tanselali)linkedin.com/in/ryandeiss
Website: (simonsquibb.com) (jeffersonfisher.com) (tanselali.com)ryandeiss.com/%20
Instagram: (instagram.com/tansel.a.l.i/?hl=en)instagram.com/ryandeiss
Check out The Futur:
Website: thefutur.com/ (thefutur.com)
Courses: thefutur.com/shop (thefutur.com/shop)
Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/the-futur/ (linkedin.com/company/the-futur)
Podcasts: thefutur.com/podcast (thefutur.com/podcast)
Instagram: instagram.com/thefuturishere/ (instagram.com/thefuturishere)
Facebook: facebook.com/theFuturisHere/ (facebook.com/theFuturisHere)
Twitter: x.com/thefuturishere (x.com/thefuturishere)
TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefuturishere (tiktok.com/@thefuturishere)
Youtube:youtube.com/thefuturishere (youtube.com/thefuturishere)
Check out Chris Do:
Website: zaap.bio/thechrisdo (zaap.bio/thechrisdo)
LinkedIn:linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo/ (linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo)
Facebook:facebook.com/BizOfDesign (facebook.com/BizOfDesign)
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TikTok:tiktok.com/@thechrisdo (tiktok.com/@thechrisdo)
Threads:threads.net/@thechrisdo (threads.net/@thechrisdo)
Zaap: zaap.bio/thechrisdo (zaap.bio/thechrisdo)
Clubhouse:clubhouse.com/@thechrisdo (clubhouse.com/@thechrisdo)
Behance: behance.net/chrisdo (behance.net/chrisdo)
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